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    Silverstones
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2024 - 8:35 PM ET #26

    It is silly you're only dealing with an 8 game sample and ignoring the quality of opponents and the QBs they faced. 

     

    And talking about how many passing TDs given up means nothing in an 8 game sample, why throw the ball when you can score TDs  running against the Jets ? 

    I watched the Patriots Sunday convert a bunch of  3rd and longs to win that game for anyone to say anything good about the Jets defense is being stupid.

    I'm not betting the game not making a case for Houston either could care less on the outcome but you're clueless my Mad Professor.

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    It is silly you're only dealing with an 8 game sample and ignoring the quality of opponents and the QBs they faced. 

     

    And talking about how many passing TDs given up means nothing in an 8 game sample, why throw the ball when you can score TDs  running against the Jets ? 

    I watched the Patriots Sunday convert a bunch of  3rd and longs to win that game for anyone to say anything good about the Jets defense is being stupid.

    I'm not betting the game not making a case for Houston either could care less on the outcome but you're clueless my Mad Professor.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2024 - 8:43 PM ET #27

    When the Jets hired Robert Saleh in 2021, they led the league in ppg allowed(17) over that span. Also allowing 256 ypg.

    Since firing him, 28.3 ppg allowed with 338 yards per game allowed.

    Since week 6: 25th in epa per play on defense. Before week 6, 6th in epa per play.

    They were 2-3 with Saleh, now 0-3 with Ulbrich.

    The Jets have the least amount of coaches on staff of any NFL team.

    Whether it's the owner, gm, or both, who are making decisions for this team, there's a reason the Jets fall on their faces year after year.

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    When the Jets hired Robert Saleh in 2021, they led the league in ppg allowed(17) over that span. Also allowing 256 ypg.

    Since firing him, 28.3 ppg allowed with 338 yards per game allowed.

    Since week 6: 25th in epa per play on defense. Before week 6, 6th in epa per play.

    They were 2-3 with Saleh, now 0-3 with Ulbrich.

    The Jets have the least amount of coaches on staff of any NFL team.

    Whether it's the owner, gm, or both, who are making decisions for this team, there's a reason the Jets fall on their faces year after year.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2024 - 8:48 PM ET #28

    The fact that you ignore The Texans schedule is comical:

    Tds are given up by passing the ball

     

    You obviously don't watch the Texans play.

     

    Anthony Richardson, the worst QB in the history of Football, had a 101.2 Qb rating against the Texans pass defense. Thats awful.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    The fact that you ignore The Texans schedule is comical:

    Tds are given up by passing the ball

     

    You obviously don't watch the Texans play.

     

    Anthony Richardson, the worst QB in the history of Football, had a 101.2 Qb rating against the Texans pass defense. Thats awful.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2024 - 8:51 PM ET #29

    @undermysac

     

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     Bingo! 

    the Chiefs have 29 coaches.

     

    Texans have 27.

     

    Jets 20.

     

    The jets, since 2010, have scored on 14.1% of their opening drives. NFL average is 21.1%

    The Jets always play from behind. Thats on coaching

     

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    an_lightan_lightan_light

     Bingo! 

    the Chiefs have 29 coaches.

     

    Texans have 27.

     

    Jets 20.

     

    The jets, since 2010, have scored on 14.1% of their opening drives. NFL average is 21.1%

    The Jets always play from behind. Thats on coaching

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2024 - 8:44 AM ET #30

    The Texans have major injuries on offense, and virtually no running game, the lean here is on the UNDER 

    moneybag

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    The Texans have major injuries on offense, and virtually no running game, the lean here is on the UNDER 

    moneybag

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2024 - 10:03 AM ET #31

    I’m probably taking the Jets let me preface that.  Probably because I’m a glutton for punishment.  But I’ve watched their last 4 games.  This is the worst fucking football team I’ve watched all year.  They’re worse than the Panthers.  They’re more talented, yes, but scheme wise, functional wise they’re the worst team I’ve seen.  Last week they burned all timeouts in the first quarter because they couldn’t get a play call in on time.  They’ve had cadence issues all seasons, with F- absolute dogshit football minds in Downing/Hackett calling plays, mixed with washed curmendegon Aaron Rodgers.  Defensively it doesn’t get much better, Sauce Gardner gets twisted around more than a figure skater in coverage now, talk about the most overrated player in football; Christ he fucking sucks.  Presnap penalties galore, untimely turnovers, awful special teams.  There’s absolutely no reason this shit ass team should be favored.  

    But here we are, probably taking the Jets tonight.  I’m gonna need a lot of booze and antacids to get me through the night.  God help me.   

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    I’m probably taking the Jets let me preface that.  Probably because I’m a glutton for punishment.  But I’ve watched their last 4 games.  This is the worst fucking football team I’ve watched all year.  They’re worse than the Panthers.  They’re more talented, yes, but scheme wise, functional wise they’re the worst team I’ve seen.  Last week they burned all timeouts in the first quarter because they couldn’t get a play call in on time.  They’ve had cadence issues all seasons, with F- absolute dogshit football minds in Downing/Hackett calling plays, mixed with washed curmendegon Aaron Rodgers.  Defensively it doesn’t get much better, Sauce Gardner gets twisted around more than a figure skater in coverage now, talk about the most overrated player in football; Christ he fucking sucks.  Presnap penalties galore, untimely turnovers, awful special teams.  There’s absolutely no reason this shit ass team should be favored.  

    But here we are, probably taking the Jets tonight.  I’m gonna need a lot of booze and antacids to get me through the night.  God help me.   

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2024 - 10:18 AM ET #32

    @TJZags598

     Stop telling the idiote how to cap properly lol.

    It is literally the perfect time to take the Jets. Houston has not impressed me this season considering the leap forward you would expect with Stroud not being a rookie and having Diggs now.

    The Jets have struggled but i think they can win in this spot off the 2 road games while Houston despite their record has only cashed two tickets. They're not great as a favorite and they just got a division win. That = relax and heal up mode and not bothered about a team with a losing record on a short week. The AFC south is way more important to them, and the whole division looks pretty bad in general tho the Colts have cashed every game they aren't good or winning games the Titans and Jags both stink.

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     Stop telling the idiote how to cap properly lol.

    It is literally the perfect time to take the Jets. Houston has not impressed me this season considering the leap forward you would expect with Stroud not being a rookie and having Diggs now.

    The Jets have struggled but i think they can win in this spot off the 2 road games while Houston despite their record has only cashed two tickets. They're not great as a favorite and they just got a division win. That = relax and heal up mode and not bothered about a team with a losing record on a short week. The AFC south is way more important to them, and the whole division looks pretty bad in general tho the Colts have cashed every game they aren't good or winning games the Titans and Jags both stink.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2024 - 10:19 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by poppyg:

    The Texans have major injuries on offense, and virtually no running game, the lean here is on the UNDER
    shawn hoculi reffing tonight so there's a good chance it stays low

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppyg:

    The Texans have major injuries on offense, and virtually no running game, the lean here is on the UNDER
    shawn hoculi reffing tonight so there's a good chance it stays low

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2024 - 10:33 AM ET #34

    Even with the injuries to Houston’s receivers, I think the Texans are more balanced, better coached and more disciplined. Backing the Jets ? I can’t do it …
    This Jets team is extremely broken and Rogers is done finished history 

     

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    Even with the injuries to Houston’s receivers, I think the Texans are more balanced, better coached and more disciplined. Backing the Jets ? I can’t do it …
    This Jets team is extremely broken and Rogers is done finished history 

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2024 - 10:56 AM ET #35

    Under 42 …live bet the side if you need to 

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    Under 42 …live bet the side if you need to 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2024 - 10:58 AM ET #36

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    Exactly.

     

    Maybe better quality competition?

     

    Houston Strength of schedule:

    2023 137-152 ( 47.4% )

    2024 Projected: 152-137 (52.6%)

    So far its running:29-25 9 53.7% )

     

    Jalen Hurts a few years back, got the biggest NFL contract off of his best year ever.

     

    Oh right, he played the 32 easiest schedule that year.

     

    The biggest regression in the Texans is by far their pass defense:

     

    All 2023: 17 TD passes

    2024 YTD: 16 TD passes

     

    WTF?

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    Exactly.

     

    Maybe better quality competition?

     

    Houston Strength of schedule:

    2023 137-152 ( 47.4% )

    2024 Projected: 152-137 (52.6%)

    So far its running:29-25 9 53.7% )

     

    Jalen Hurts a few years back, got the biggest NFL contract off of his best year ever.

     

    Oh right, he played the 32 easiest schedule that year.

     

    The biggest regression in the Texans is by far their pass defense:

     

    All 2023: 17 TD passes

    2024 YTD: 16 TD passes

     

    WTF?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2024 - 11:34 AM ET #37

    Ok thats why i hate conventional write up lol.  Its like a religion debate ulbrich the uldrich is a d genius amigo. Replace that b as d = uldrich the defensive master amigo. You got the numbers on he allowed that and this. You cant erase the fact that he is the 4th best in nfl defensively in 2022. And 3rd rank in 2023. It’s in the books. an_light

     

    so how can we finish can you tell me?

    ok we just agree to disagree in some catgeories ok? Or can we weigh things what category is better? 

     

     Ok never mind im in different thread lol.

    thanks. peace_5

    nice sharing of information though you guys. Il just read looks like il find more info in this thread. an_popcorn 

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    Ok thats why i hate conventional write up lol.  Its like a religion debate ulbrich the uldrich is a d genius amigo. Replace that b as d = uldrich the defensive master amigo. You got the numbers on he allowed that and this. You cant erase the fact that he is the 4th best in nfl defensively in 2022. And 3rd rank in 2023. It’s in the books. an_light

     

    so how can we finish can you tell me?

    ok we just agree to disagree in some catgeories ok? Or can we weigh things what category is better? 

     

     Ok never mind im in different thread lol.

    thanks. peace_5

    nice sharing of information though you guys. Il just read looks like il find more info in this thread. an_popcorn 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2024 - 11:42 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by TJZags598:

    @Silverstones  Silly rating stats? I generate my own stats.    I have an mba in data analytics. i also watch every NFL game each week. Silly? Really? Maybe you are the silly one

     

    You must have an exciting social life.an_popcorn

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJZags598:

    @Silverstones  Silly rating stats? I generate my own stats.    I have an mba in data analytics. i also watch every NFL game each week. Silly? Really? Maybe you are the silly one

     

    You must have an exciting social life.an_popcorn

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2024 - 12:16 PM ET #39

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     LOL, 

     

    Not as bad as it seems.

     

    Sundays, i have many friends over, BBQ, Live bet, trash talk.

     

    I work 6 months a year.

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     LOL, 

     

    Not as bad as it seems.

     

    Sundays, i have many friends over, BBQ, Live bet, trash talk.

     

    I work 6 months a year.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2024 - 12:30 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by poppyg:

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsIntuition: @In19944   Because people refuse to accept the Jets suck and Vegas knows this. The same herd that bet them last week and the week before and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that will bet them again Thursday. Jets backers and fans are the wheel of insanity!   No one sees this!!!! Aaron Rodgers is done, finished, the Jets will not WIN 5 GAMES! THIS SEASON!  Aaron Rodgers "will not be the NYJ QB NEXT SEASON"  He gets no respect in the locker room, he's become a 'virus'  The experiment is over, and is a total failure..betting the Jets the rest of the way has become a high risk wager, beware my brothers, you're  not morons.  Or are you?

    Poppyg sums things up pretty well I think. I came here looking for an explanation for why the Jets are favored. My own conclusion was that Vegas is expecting a bounce after the loss to the Pats and for Rodgers to come out on fire after all the bad press this week. When I watch the guy play, he's slow (mentally & physically), confused, losing his composure and is not seeing the entire field. His inability to commit to and run a play is maybe one of the most damning evidence. He's not the same guy.

    Being familiar with the effects of brain fog, it's not something you can come to terms with for a while, so I doubt he's even aware of his issues. So he might believe he's gonna come through. But when your processing time slows, even by a fraction of a second, it messes with your psyche and incites panic. I'm pretty sure that's what's happening with Aaron and, if I'm right, there's no way he's capable of the kind of performance he'd need to lead the Jets to a W tonight. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsIntuition: @In19944   Because people refuse to accept the Jets suck and Vegas knows this. The same herd that bet them last week and the week before and the week before that and the week before that and the week before that will bet them again Thursday. Jets backers and fans are the wheel of insanity!   No one sees this!!!! Aaron Rodgers is done, finished, the Jets will not WIN 5 GAMES! THIS SEASON!  Aaron Rodgers "will not be the NYJ QB NEXT SEASON"  He gets no respect in the locker room, he's become a 'virus'  The experiment is over, and is a total failure..betting the Jets the rest of the way has become a high risk wager, beware my brothers, you're  not morons.  Or are you?

    Poppyg sums things up pretty well I think. I came here looking for an explanation for why the Jets are favored. My own conclusion was that Vegas is expecting a bounce after the loss to the Pats and for Rodgers to come out on fire after all the bad press this week. When I watch the guy play, he's slow (mentally & physically), confused, losing his composure and is not seeing the entire field. His inability to commit to and run a play is maybe one of the most damning evidence. He's not the same guy.

    Being familiar with the effects of brain fog, it's not something you can come to terms with for a while, so I doubt he's even aware of his issues. So he might believe he's gonna come through. But when your processing time slows, even by a fraction of a second, it messes with your psyche and incites panic. I'm pretty sure that's what's happening with Aaron and, if I'm right, there's no way he's capable of the kind of performance he'd need to lead the Jets to a W tonight. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:

    Quote Originally Posted by TJZags598: @Silverstones  Silly rating stats? I generate my own stats.    I have an mba in data analytics. i also watch every NFL game each week. Silly? Really? Maybe you are the silly one   You must have an exciting social life.

    It's definitely better than MiraclingDosan_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:

    Quote Originally Posted by TJZags598: @Silverstones  Silly rating stats? I generate my own stats.    I have an mba in data analytics. i also watch every NFL game each week. Silly? Really? Maybe you are the silly one   You must have an exciting social life.

    It's definitely better than MiraclingDosan_light

     
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    I have the game at Hou -6.5. The only thing I think that helps the Jets as much as the bookmakers are giving is that the pressure is off the Jets now. Their season is over and they have come to terms with that so its possible they will play better  not being under so much pressure. 
    I will probably end up a sucker I am hammering Houston with a sledge hammer. 

    Perfect tease opportunity with Hou as well 

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    I have the game at Hou -6.5. The only thing I think that helps the Jets as much as the bookmakers are giving is that the pressure is off the Jets now. Their season is over and they have come to terms with that so its possible they will play better  not being under so much pressure. 
    I will probably end up a sucker I am hammering Houston with a sledge hammer. 

    Perfect tease opportunity with Hou as well 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2024 - 2:17 PM ET #44

    @MP2056

     The sharps know the Jets can easily be 6-2 with an ounce of kicking and qb play.

     

    Zuerline is 30% worse than average, and 20% worse than the second worse kicker.

     

    His FGOA is -4. another 4 field goals on the jets season is a game changer.

     

    He legitimately lost the Broncos, Bills, and Patriots game. With a competent kickers, Jets win all 3.

     

    Jets outplayed Viking in second half until rogers threw a wtf pass near the end zone.

     

    The 2-6 is not reflected of the actual performance.

     

    The major difference between the 2 teams? Coaching & GM.

     

    No one should tolerate such awful performance

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     The sharps know the Jets can easily be 6-2 with an ounce of kicking and qb play.

     

    Zuerline is 30% worse than average, and 20% worse than the second worse kicker.

     

    His FGOA is -4. another 4 field goals on the jets season is a game changer.

     

    He legitimately lost the Broncos, Bills, and Patriots game. With a competent kickers, Jets win all 3.

     

    Jets outplayed Viking in second half until rogers threw a wtf pass near the end zone.

     

    The 2-6 is not reflected of the actual performance.

     

    The major difference between the 2 teams? Coaching & GM.

     

    No one should tolerate such awful performance

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by IntenseOperator:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999: Quote Originally Posted by TJZags598: @Silverstones  Silly rating stats? I generate my own stats.    I have an mba in data analytics. i also watch every NFL game each week. Silly? Really? Maybe you are the silly one   You must have an exciting social life. It's definitely better than MiraclingDos

    duh me again? confused


    leave your immaturity in your house. 

    Dont you see they are having serious conversation here, big boys talkin and you are being a kid. an_slap

    just be an spectator here and shut your mouth mr intenseoperated. an_boggienight

    dont fill the space with nonsense. 

    sorry guys you may continue…  an_popcorn

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by IntenseOperator:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999: Quote Originally Posted by TJZags598: @Silverstones  Silly rating stats? I generate my own stats.    I have an mba in data analytics. i also watch every NFL game each week. Silly? Really? Maybe you are the silly one   You must have an exciting social life. It's definitely better than MiraclingDos

    duh me again? confused


    leave your immaturity in your house. 

    Dont you see they are having serious conversation here, big boys talkin and you are being a kid. an_slap

    just be an spectator here and shut your mouth mr intenseoperated. an_boggienight

    dont fill the space with nonsense. 

    sorry guys you may continue…  an_popcorn

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJZags598:

    @Cooler999  LOL,    Not as bad as it seems.   Sundays, i have many friends over, BBQ, Live bet, trash talk.   I work 6 months a year.

     

    Just playing with you....have a great rest of the season.peace_5

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    @Cooler999  LOL,    Not as bad as it seems.   Sundays, i have many friends over, BBQ, Live bet, trash talk.   I work 6 months a year.

     

    Just playing with you....have a great rest of the season.peace_5

     
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     Thanks!

     

    Its both a hobby and livelihood which is what i hope for everyone to hav.

     

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     Thanks!

     

    Its both a hobby and livelihood which is what i hope for everyone to hav.

     

    an_cheers

     

     
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    Aaron Rodgers is 7-14 su in the last 21 games where he's started and finished the game.

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    Aaron Rodgers is 7-14 su in the last 21 games where he's started and finished the game.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanasaur:

    Dont do it. Theres no value on either side here in my opinion.

    That word value.

    LMAO 

    Do you even know what it means?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanasaur:

    Dont do it. Theres no value on either side here in my opinion.

    That word value.

    LMAO 

    Do you even know what it means?

     

     
     
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