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    We rarely see a psychological angle like this in week one: Niners Statement Game

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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2019 - 9:45 AM ET #26

    If the 49ers win this game, what will the "team thought process" be next week?new_emoj_tounge

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    If the 49ers win this game, what will the "team thought process" be next week?new_emoj_tounge

     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2019 - 10:02 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


    No kidding. You don't even know what you're thinking. You think your interpretation of your thoughts are more valid because you know you?! LOL You don't know you. You only "think" you do. I don't care what they think they're thinking. I know what they're thinking/feeling, because With Scal gone, I'm the best psychological capper on this forum.

    BB is pretty good... most other cappers on this site cap on a very basic level. 
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    No kidding. You don't even know what you're thinking. You think your interpretation of your thoughts are more valid because you know you?! LOL You don't know you. You only "think" you do. I don't care what they think they're thinking. I know what they're thinking/feeling, because With Scal gone, I'm the best psychological capper on this forum.

    BB is pretty good... most other cappers on this site cap on a very basic level. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2019 - 4:58 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by erjaq:

    Yeah, this write-up does absolutely nothing for me. Is there anybody in the organization who has been there for all 8 losses?

    The 49ers know that if they are going to contend this year they have to win on the road, and what better way to do that than winning the first game on the road,

    Substitute 'the Buccaneers' for 'the 49ers' and 'at home' for 'on the road' and it actually makes more sense, not less. Out of division road games are probably the least important on a team's schedule.

    Throw in the fact that Jimmy G looked like complete dogshit in the preseason this year, perhaps not fully recovered from the injury, or perhaps it's mental, and I would be extremely wary of backing this team until I see them prove it on the field. Kyle Shanahan is a brilliant offensive mind, but so far it hasn't translated to head coaching success. Sorta reminds me of the DC he'll be facing in this game, Todd Bowles. Better as chiefs than Indians.

    Also, road teams in Florida early in the season are at a serious disadvantage from the heat and humidity. Players in TB/Jax/Miami have at least been practicing in it, and with the new rules governing the amount of practice time, many players don't have their conditioning up until the end of September. (Similar idea applies to teams traveling to Denver because of the altitude.)

    IMO there are far better games to play this weekend, but gun to head I would not hesitate to take the Bucs here.

    BOLTA, here's a to a great season.


    Thanks for the tip. But I already accounted for it, as have the Niners:

    "God knows it's hot, I know it's hot," Lynch said on Wednesday. "I used to say a prayer every day in training camp. 'Just get me through today, and I'll be good.' That's just a fact. It's going to be (hot) so how do you deal with it? Mental toughness, physical toughness. We've prepared these guys for it."

    How is the coaching staff preparing their players for the heat? A steam tent popped up next to the practice fields at the 49ers facility. It's a custom sauna where temperatures can get up to 110 degrees inside.
    The 49ers also closed the doors and raised the temperature in the weight room, helping players acclimate to the warmer weather before traveling to the East Coast.

    "That's probably as close as it can get to feeling like Tampa, except for the sun being on you," linebacker Azeez Al-Shaair, who grew up in Tampa, told Matt Barrows of The Athletic.

    Head coach Kyle Shanahan knows about the Tampa heat. He spent two seasons (2004–2005) as an assistant with the Buccaneers — his first NFL job.
    "I coached in Tampa when I started my career, so I know how big of an advantage that was for us early in the year," Shanahan told reporters on Wednesday. "Been in a lot of humid places to begin and it is tough for guys if they aren't prepared for it [...] You've got to be mindful of it.

    "You've got to make sure that you don't just start hydrating when you get to Florida and realize how humid it is. That starts Monday, and you've got to do that for a full week which will help, and you just hope that you're hydrated and that you prepared the right way.

    "I know we have a team who has prepared the right way. I feel we're very well-conditioned. We'll keep trying to stuff water down their throats for the next week and after that, and then I don't want to talk about it. It's going to be hot. It's not going to be fun."

    Are there any tips Lynch might have on how to deal with the Florida heat?

    "Learn to love to be miserable," Lynch responded.


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    Yeah, this write-up does absolutely nothing for me. Is there anybody in the organization who has been there for all 8 losses?

    The 49ers know that if they are going to contend this year they have to win on the road, and what better way to do that than winning the first game on the road,

    Substitute 'the Buccaneers' for 'the 49ers' and 'at home' for 'on the road' and it actually makes more sense, not less. Out of division road games are probably the least important on a team's schedule.

    Throw in the fact that Jimmy G looked like complete dogshit in the preseason this year, perhaps not fully recovered from the injury, or perhaps it's mental, and I would be extremely wary of backing this team until I see them prove it on the field. Kyle Shanahan is a brilliant offensive mind, but so far it hasn't translated to head coaching success. Sorta reminds me of the DC he'll be facing in this game, Todd Bowles. Better as chiefs than Indians.

    Also, road teams in Florida early in the season are at a serious disadvantage from the heat and humidity. Players in TB/Jax/Miami have at least been practicing in it, and with the new rules governing the amount of practice time, many players don't have their conditioning up until the end of September. (Similar idea applies to teams traveling to Denver because of the altitude.)

    IMO there are far better games to play this weekend, but gun to head I would not hesitate to take the Bucs here.

    BOLTA, here's a to a great season.


    Thanks for the tip. But I already accounted for it, as have the Niners:

    "God knows it's hot, I know it's hot," Lynch said on Wednesday. "I used to say a prayer every day in training camp. 'Just get me through today, and I'll be good.' That's just a fact. It's going to be (hot) so how do you deal with it? Mental toughness, physical toughness. We've prepared these guys for it."

    How is the coaching staff preparing their players for the heat? A steam tent popped up next to the practice fields at the 49ers facility. It's a custom sauna where temperatures can get up to 110 degrees inside.
    The 49ers also closed the doors and raised the temperature in the weight room, helping players acclimate to the warmer weather before traveling to the East Coast.

    "That's probably as close as it can get to feeling like Tampa, except for the sun being on you," linebacker Azeez Al-Shaair, who grew up in Tampa, told Matt Barrows of The Athletic.

    Head coach Kyle Shanahan knows about the Tampa heat. He spent two seasons (2004–2005) as an assistant with the Buccaneers — his first NFL job.
    "I coached in Tampa when I started my career, so I know how big of an advantage that was for us early in the year," Shanahan told reporters on Wednesday. "Been in a lot of humid places to begin and it is tough for guys if they aren't prepared for it [...] You've got to be mindful of it.

    "You've got to make sure that you don't just start hydrating when you get to Florida and realize how humid it is. That starts Monday, and you've got to do that for a full week which will help, and you just hope that you're hydrated and that you prepared the right way.

    "I know we have a team who has prepared the right way. I feel we're very well-conditioned. We'll keep trying to stuff water down their throats for the next week and after that, and then I don't want to talk about it. It's going to be hot. It's not going to be fun."

    Are there any tips Lynch might have on how to deal with the Florida heat?

    "Learn to love to be miserable," Lynch responded.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2019 - 5:28 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Quote Originally Posted by JWD1984:

      Every year someone posts their reasoning because they KNOW what a particular team is thinking and they'll be UP for this game. Hate to be the bearer of bad news (well, not really), but you don't know what they're thinking. 
    No kidding. You don't even know what you're thinking. You think your interpretation of your thoughts are more valid because you know you?! LOL You don't know you. You only "think" you do. I don't care what they think they're thinking. I know what they're thinking/feeling, because With Scal gone, I'm the best psychological capper on this forum.

    LMAO

    for the new guys, don't follow BB

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWD1984:

      Every year someone posts their reasoning because they KNOW what a particular team is thinking and they'll be UP for this game. Hate to be the bearer of bad news (well, not really), but you don't know what they're thinking. 
    No kidding. You don't even know what you're thinking. You think your interpretation of your thoughts are more valid because you know you?! LOL You don't know you. You only "think" you do. I don't care what they think they're thinking. I know what they're thinking/feeling, because With Scal gone, I'm the best psychological capper on this forum.

    LMAO

    for the new guys, don't follow BB

     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2019 - 5:29 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:



    Thanks for the tip. But I already accounted for it, as have the Niners:

    "God knows it's hot, I know it's hot," Lynch said on Wednesday. "I used to say a prayer every day in training camp. 'Just get me through today, and I'll be good.' That's just a fact. It's going to be (hot) so how do you deal with it? Mental toughness, physical toughness. We've prepared these guys for it."

    How is the coaching staff preparing their players for the heat? A steam tent popped up next to the practice fields at the 49ers facility. It's a custom sauna where temperatures can get up to 110 degrees inside.
    The 49ers also closed the doors and raised the temperature in the weight room, helping players acclimate to the warmer weather before traveling to the East Coast.

    "That's probably as close as it can get to feeling like Tampa, except for the sun being on you," linebacker Azeez Al-Shaair, who grew up in Tampa, told Matt Barrows of The Athletic.

    Head coach Kyle Shanahan knows about the Tampa heat. He spent two seasons (2004–2005) as an assistant with the Buccaneers — his first NFL job.
    "I coached in Tampa when I started my career, so I know how big of an advantage that was for us early in the year," Shanahan told reporters on Wednesday. "Been in a lot of humid places to begin and it is tough for guys if they aren't prepared for it [...] You've got to be mindful of it.

    "You've got to make sure that you don't just start hydrating when you get to Florida and realize how humid it is. That starts Monday, and you've got to do that for a full week which will help, and you just hope that you're hydrated and that you prepared the right way.

    "I know we have a team who has prepared the right way. I feel we're very well-conditioned. We'll keep trying to stuff water down their throats for the next week and after that, and then I don't want to talk about it. It's going to be hot. It's not going to be fun."

    Are there any tips Lynch might have on how to deal with the Florida heat?

    "Learn to love to be miserable," Lynch responded.



    Actually, that's quite encouraging. Not sure you can really substitute it for the real thing, but at least they're trying and thinking about it.

    That's just one reason I don't like the play, but I can see you're doing your homework. Props to you.

    I'll be on the sidelines for this one, but best of luck to you, hope it gets there. 
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    Thanks for the tip. But I already accounted for it, as have the Niners:

    "God knows it's hot, I know it's hot," Lynch said on Wednesday. "I used to say a prayer every day in training camp. 'Just get me through today, and I'll be good.' That's just a fact. It's going to be (hot) so how do you deal with it? Mental toughness, physical toughness. We've prepared these guys for it."

    How is the coaching staff preparing their players for the heat? A steam tent popped up next to the practice fields at the 49ers facility. It's a custom sauna where temperatures can get up to 110 degrees inside.
    The 49ers also closed the doors and raised the temperature in the weight room, helping players acclimate to the warmer weather before traveling to the East Coast.

    "That's probably as close as it can get to feeling like Tampa, except for the sun being on you," linebacker Azeez Al-Shaair, who grew up in Tampa, told Matt Barrows of The Athletic.

    Head coach Kyle Shanahan knows about the Tampa heat. He spent two seasons (2004–2005) as an assistant with the Buccaneers — his first NFL job.
    "I coached in Tampa when I started my career, so I know how big of an advantage that was for us early in the year," Shanahan told reporters on Wednesday. "Been in a lot of humid places to begin and it is tough for guys if they aren't prepared for it [...] You've got to be mindful of it.

    "You've got to make sure that you don't just start hydrating when you get to Florida and realize how humid it is. That starts Monday, and you've got to do that for a full week which will help, and you just hope that you're hydrated and that you prepared the right way.

    "I know we have a team who has prepared the right way. I feel we're very well-conditioned. We'll keep trying to stuff water down their throats for the next week and after that, and then I don't want to talk about it. It's going to be hot. It's not going to be fun."

    Are there any tips Lynch might have on how to deal with the Florida heat?

    "Learn to love to be miserable," Lynch responded.



    Actually, that's quite encouraging. Not sure you can really substitute it for the real thing, but at least they're trying and thinking about it.

    That's just one reason I don't like the play, but I can see you're doing your homework. Props to you.

    I'll be on the sidelines for this one, but best of luck to you, hope it gets there. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2019 - 6:15 PM ET #31

    I grew up a huge 49er fan, just in the last 10 years I decided to part ways, thanks to the York family ruining their legacy. However I do think the 49ers will destroy Tampa Bay in Tampa this week, if their defense is what I think it is. If you put pressure on Tampa's overrated Jameis Winston, game over. 49ers will rout them if their defense applies pressure up front. Winston will throw pick after pick. 49ers 34 Buc's 13. I'm not looking at this game as a revenge game because today's player's have short memories they are more concerned about social media than football pride.

     

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    I grew up a huge 49er fan, just in the last 10 years I decided to part ways, thanks to the York family ruining their legacy. However I do think the 49ers will destroy Tampa Bay in Tampa this week, if their defense is what I think it is. If you put pressure on Tampa's overrated Jameis Winston, game over. 49ers will rout them if their defense applies pressure up front. Winston will throw pick after pick. 49ers 34 Buc's 13. I'm not looking at this game as a revenge game because today's player's have short memories they are more concerned about social media than football pride.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2019 - 8:59 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    The 49ers did not win a road game last year! The 49ers lost to the Bucks on the road last year 27-9, in one of their worst performances of the year. The 49ers have not beaten Bruce Arians since Harbaugh left: losing the last 8. That's the bad news. The good news (besides the fact that this not an early start game on the East Coast) is that all those facts I just mentioned will be huge motivating/psychological factors for a 49er team that is much improved from last year--especially on the defensive end. The 49ers know that if they are going to contend this year they have to win on the road, and what better way to do that than winning the first game on the road against a team that beat them last year and a coach who has beaten them 8 straight. There is no look-ahead (they play the Bungles next week) or overlooking this Tampa team. This game (i.e., their first road test) is all the 49ers are thinking about and have been thinking about since last year. This is, in many ways, a statement game, but not the kind we usually think of. This is a statement the 49ers are making to themselves. A statement that says: we are not last year's team, we are not going to lose for the 9th straight time on the road, and the 9th straight time to Bruce Arians, we will be contenders, we will win the games we are supposed to win, and we will begin this process by burying the putrid Bucks on the road. The Play: The Niners pickem

    Anybody that follows this guy based on that writeup is an idiot.

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    The 49ers did not win a road game last year! The 49ers lost to the Bucks on the road last year 27-9, in one of their worst performances of the year. The 49ers have not beaten Bruce Arians since Harbaugh left: losing the last 8. That's the bad news. The good news (besides the fact that this not an early start game on the East Coast) is that all those facts I just mentioned will be huge motivating/psychological factors for a 49er team that is much improved from last year--especially on the defensive end. The 49ers know that if they are going to contend this year they have to win on the road, and what better way to do that than winning the first game on the road against a team that beat them last year and a coach who has beaten them 8 straight. There is no look-ahead (they play the Bungles next week) or overlooking this Tampa team. This game (i.e., their first road test) is all the 49ers are thinking about and have been thinking about since last year. This is, in many ways, a statement game, but not the kind we usually think of. This is a statement the 49ers are making to themselves. A statement that says: we are not last year's team, we are not going to lose for the 9th straight time on the road, and the 9th straight time to Bruce Arians, we will be contenders, we will win the games we are supposed to win, and we will begin this process by burying the putrid Bucks on the road. The Play: The Niners pickem

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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2019 - 7:40 PM ET #33

    Nice work BB! It wasn't pretty but we will take the W. Jimmy G looks a little off to me
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    Thanks, buddy. Not easy breaking a losing streak. But they were not going to be denied and they played like it. That's why we took them, because the motivation and desperation were strong.
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    Thanks, buddy. Not easy breaking a losing streak. But they were not going to be denied and they played like it. That's why we took them, because the motivation and desperation were strong.
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