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    That was a CATCH by Dez

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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:10 PM ET #26

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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:11 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by mightiestmojo:

    First of all it's Karma for last week. Second, the Calvin Johnson catch is the perfect example of this, they referenced it, not a catch. That's the precedent. 
    Calvin dropped the ball.  Dez still caught it.  joke call. Joke league. Cobbs was a catch? And that wasn't? Lol. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by mightiestmojo:

    First of all it's Karma for last week. Second, the Calvin Johnson catch is the perfect example of this, they referenced it, not a catch. That's the precedent. 
    Calvin dropped the ball.  Dez still caught it.  joke call. Joke league. Cobbs was a catch? And that wasn't? Lol. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:11 PM ET #28

    Yes it was. Unbelievable, the referees determined the outcome of this football game. Feel bad for Dallas fans - you guys got screwed.
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    Yes it was. Unbelievable, the referees determined the outcome of this football game. Feel bad for Dallas fans - you guys got screwed.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:12 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by stevopa:

    Dude, learn the rules of the game.  The same precedent is in play for a catch in the end zone when no "football move" made. A player must maintain possession through the ground.  Whether any part of his body touches the ground is immaterial.  You guys are clueless!

    I believe he did make a football move a-hole. He took two steps and dove for the end zone after securing the football. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevopa:

    Dude, learn the rules of the game.  The same precedent is in play for a catch in the end zone when no "football move" made. A player must maintain possession through the ground.  Whether any part of his body touches the ground is immaterial.  You guys are clueless!

    I believe he did make a football move a-hole. He took two steps and dove for the end zone after securing the football. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:14 PM ET #30

    first of all he did not cross the white line so he's not in the end zone and darn i won but that was still a catch  


    matter of facts greatest catch of the year 
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    first of all he did not cross the white line so he's not in the end zone and darn i won but that was still a catch  


    matter of facts greatest catch of the year 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:16 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by DA_BOYS:


    I believe he did make a football move a-hole. He took two steps and dove for the end zone after securing the football. 
    What you believe in your interpretation of the play doesn't mean d!ck.  Both the officials and Mike Perairra (however you spelled it) analyze the play differently than you and I agree...even though it probably cost me money on the over bet I placed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DA_BOYS:


    I believe he did make a football move a-hole. He took two steps and dove for the end zone after securing the football. 
    What you believe in your interpretation of the play doesn't mean d!ck.  Both the officials and Mike Perairra (however you spelled it) analyze the play differently than you and I agree...even though it probably cost me money on the over bet I placed.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:16 PM ET #32

    This is pointless. It's the rule. Here's the Calvin Johnson catch. Listen to them after the flag.
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    This is pointless. It's the rule. Here's the Calvin Johnson catch. Listen to them after the flag.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:16 PM ET #33

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ol2fuo5p5c
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:17 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by DA_BOYS:


    I believe he did make a football move a-hole. He took two steps and dove for the end zone after securing the football. 

     

     

    If taking two steps and then diving for the endzone isn't a football move then nothing is .

     

    Also there was  no clear and convincing evidence that the ball ever touched the ground regardless to overturn the call on the field. So then you must move on to the question of did he maintain possession ? No he didn't you could say but  he already made the football move and he caught it off the bobble anyway so that doesn't matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by DA_BOYS:


    I believe he did make a football move a-hole. He took two steps and dove for the end zone after securing the football. 

     

     

    If taking two steps and then diving for the endzone isn't a football move then nothing is .

     

    Also there was  no clear and convincing evidence that the ball ever touched the ground regardless to overturn the call on the field. So then you must move on to the question of did he maintain possession ? No he didn't you could say but  he already made the football move and he caught it off the bobble anyway so that doesn't matter

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:17 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by stevopa:

    What you believe in your interpretation of the play doesn't mean d!ck.  Both the officials and Mike Perairra (however you spelled it) analyze the play differently than you and I agree...even though it probably cost me money on the over bet I placed.

    Exactly
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevopa:

    What you believe in your interpretation of the play doesn't mean d!ck.  Both the officials and Mike Perairra (however you spelled it) analyze the play differently than you and I agree...even though it probably cost me money on the over bet I placed.

    Exactly
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:19 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

    That was by rules of the NFL not a catch and it was a very easy to call for replay to make. It amazes me how many people bet on these games with their hard earned money and don't even know the basic rules of the league they are betting. Ball must be controlled throughout the entire process of the catch, which is was clearly not. Easy incompletion call.

     

    Howie Long is one of the best players to ever play the game and he agrees with me so I guess he doesn't know the basic rules either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

    That was by rules of the NFL not a catch and it was a very easy to call for replay to make. It amazes me how many people bet on these games with their hard earned money and don't even know the basic rules of the league they are betting. Ball must be controlled throughout the entire process of the catch, which is was clearly not. Easy incompletion call.

     

    Howie Long is one of the best players to ever play the game and he agrees with me so I guess he doesn't know the basic rules either

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:19 PM ET #37

    Watch them riot in Dallas cowboys just got rooked by a f d up rule book
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    Watch them riot in Dallas cowboys just got rooked by a f d up rule book
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:

     

     

    If taking two steps and then diving for the endzone isn't a football move then nothing is .

     

    Also there was  no clear and convincing evidence that the ball ever touched the ground regardless to overturn the call on the field. So then you must move on to the question of did he maintain possession ? No he didn't you could say but  he already made the football move and he caught it off the bobble anyway so that doesn't matter


    Have you even watched the play yet? It hit the ground and moved pretty clearly. I don't think anyone is arguing that think they're arguing if he had possession. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:

     

     

    If taking two steps and then diving for the endzone isn't a football move then nothing is .

     

    Also there was  no clear and convincing evidence that the ball ever touched the ground regardless to overturn the call on the field. So then you must move on to the question of did he maintain possession ? No he didn't you could say but  he already made the football move and he caught it off the bobble anyway so that doesn't matter


    Have you even watched the play yet? It hit the ground and moved pretty clearly. I don't think anyone is arguing that think they're arguing if he had possession. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevopa:

    Dude, learn the rules of the game.  The same precedent is in play for a catch in the end zone when no "football move" made. A player must maintain possession through the ground.  Whether any part of his body touches the ground is immaterial.  You guys are clueless!


    A football move?

    What the fugg do you call the three fuggn steps he took with the fuggn ball? Ballet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevopa:

    Dude, learn the rules of the game.  The same precedent is in play for a catch in the end zone when no "football move" made. A player must maintain possession through the ground.  Whether any part of his body touches the ground is immaterial.  You guys are clueless!


    A football move?

    What the fugg do you call the three fuggn steps he took with the fuggn ball? Ballet?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:21 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by sevenout44:

    Watch them riot in Dallas cowboys just got rooked by a f d up rule book

    I don't think we'll riot but it is pretty ironic that we got a gift last week on a weird call and the other team got one this week on a weird call. I think this week's call was right. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by sevenout44:

    Watch them riot in Dallas cowboys just got rooked by a f d up rule book

    I don't think we'll riot but it is pretty ironic that we got a gift last week on a weird call and the other team got one this week on a weird call. I think this week's call was right. 
     
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    caught at the 5 yard line, then 3 small steps forward with a dive that has his knee and then elbow down and then finally the arm with ball extends and then pops up and then he still recatches the ball.

    Not sure what the hell you could possibly want besides this?

    Lets blow the super slow mo replay up 500% and then check to see if your shoe touched the blade of grass, etc, etc. All of this bullsh!t to decide the outcome of games.

    NFL is becoming so hard to watch.

    Totally disgusting.

     

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    caught at the 5 yard line, then 3 small steps forward with a dive that has his knee and then elbow down and then finally the arm with ball extends and then pops up and then he still recatches the ball.

    Not sure what the hell you could possibly want besides this?

    Lets blow the super slow mo replay up 500% and then check to see if your shoe touched the blade of grass, etc, etc. All of this bullsh!t to decide the outcome of games.

    NFL is becoming so hard to watch.

    Totally disgusting.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

    That was by rules of the NFL not a catch and it was a very easy to call for replay to make. It amazes me how many people bet on these games with their hard earned money and don't even know the basic rules of the league they are betting. Ball must be controlled throughout the entire process of the catch, which is was clearly not. Easy incompletion call.


    The intricacies of the basic rules are not going to influence the way your betting. You have no way to handicap the " basic rules" to make this statement is correct in people needing to know rules of the game, but handicapping it is impossible. It amazes me that you think knowing all the rules gives you an edge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

    That was by rules of the NFL not a catch and it was a very easy to call for replay to make. It amazes me how many people bet on these games with their hard earned money and don't even know the basic rules of the league they are betting. Ball must be controlled throughout the entire process of the catch, which is was clearly not. Easy incompletion call.


    The intricacies of the basic rules are not going to influence the way your betting. You have no way to handicap the " basic rules" to make this statement is correct in people needing to know rules of the game, but handicapping it is impossible. It amazes me that you think knowing all the rules gives you an edge.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevopa:

    Dude, learn the rules of the game.  The same precedent is in play for a catch in the end zone when no "football move" made. A player must maintain possession through the ground.  Whether any part of his body touches the ground is immaterial.  You guys are clueless!

    SO if a football move is made then once he is down it"s a catch?

    If this is the case, how is 2 steps to the endzone and lunging for the goal line before he's down not a football move?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevopa:

    Dude, learn the rules of the game.  The same precedent is in play for a catch in the end zone when no "football move" made. A player must maintain possession through the ground.  Whether any part of his body touches the ground is immaterial.  You guys are clueless!

    SO if a football move is made then once he is down it"s a catch?

    If this is the case, how is 2 steps to the endzone and lunging for the goal line before he's down not a football move?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mightiestmojo:

    This is pointless. It's the rule. Here's the Calvin Johnson catch. Listen to them after the flag.

    Another BS call which its title appropriately demonstrates....In that play it is obvious and clear and convincing evidence that the ball hit the ground so it may be easier to overturn than this one even. still horrible call

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    Quote Originally Posted by mightiestmojo:

    This is pointless. It's the rule. Here's the Calvin Johnson catch. Listen to them after the flag.

    Another BS call which its title appropriately demonstrates....In that play it is obvious and clear and convincing evidence that the ball hit the ground so it may be easier to overturn than this one even. still horrible call

     
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    Twitter going crazy with nfl players clearly thinking that was a catch. 

    Don't know how extending the football trying to score is not considered a football move?



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    Twitter going crazy with nfl players clearly thinking that was a catch. 

    Don't know how extending the football trying to score is not considered a football move?



     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:24 PM ET #46

    Three steps gaining yards and a forearm down,what is the differance for catch and run? 4 steps,No fun league gets what they want,screw them and the cowboys
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    Three steps gaining yards and a forearm down,what is the differance for catch and run? 4 steps,No fun league gets what they want,screw them and the cowboys
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:24 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

    That was by rules of the NFL not a catch and it was a very easy to call for replay to make. It amazes me how many people bet on these games with their hard earned money and don't even know the basic rules of the league they are betting. Ball must be controlled throughout the entire process of the catch, which is was clearly not. Easy incompletion call.

    Polar I bet under with a teaser along with Dallas so no stake in this. Once possession is determined is the KEY factor. Clearly possession should've been determined once he took ball from both hands to one hand, and REACHED for the goal line?  They ruled complete on field, so I guess they are saying he never had possession. That is clearly wrong. Reaching with a ball is possession a " football" move and all that other BS! Cowgirls got robbed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

    That was by rules of the NFL not a catch and it was a very easy to call for replay to make. It amazes me how many people bet on these games with their hard earned money and don't even know the basic rules of the league they are betting. Ball must be controlled throughout the entire process of the catch, which is was clearly not. Easy incompletion call.

    Polar I bet under with a teaser along with Dallas so no stake in this. Once possession is determined is the KEY factor. Clearly possession should've been determined once he took ball from both hands to one hand, and REACHED for the goal line?  They ruled complete on field, so I guess they are saying he never had possession. That is clearly wrong. Reaching with a ball is possession a " football" move and all that other BS! Cowgirls got robbed!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:25 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:

     

    Howie Long is one of the best players to ever play the game and he agrees with me so I guess he doesn't know the basic rules either


    Everyone except Michael Irvin thought the call last week in favor of Dallas was BS. It doesn't matter what they think. Game over. Weird call for Weird call. 
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    Howie Long is one of the best players to ever play the game and he agrees with me so I guess he doesn't know the basic rules either


    Everyone except Michael Irvin thought the call last week in favor of Dallas was BS. It doesn't matter what they think. Game over. Weird call for Weird call. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:26 PM ET #49

    https://twitter.com/Lions/status/554383070451597312
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2015 - 4:27 PM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by fix-is-in-24:

    caught at the 5 yard line, then 3 small steps forward with a dive that has his knee and then elbow down and then finally the arm with ball extends and then pops up and then he still recatches the ball.

    Not sure what the hell you could possibly want besides this?

    Lets blow the super slow mo replay up 500% and then check to see if your shoe touched the blade of grass, etc, etc. All of this bullsh!t to decide the outcome of games.

    NFL is becoming so hard to watch.

    Totally disgusting.

     

    Totally agree.

     

    The game has become a farce.

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    caught at the 5 yard line, then 3 small steps forward with a dive that has his knee and then elbow down and then finally the arm with ball extends and then pops up and then he still recatches the ball.

    Not sure what the hell you could possibly want besides this?

    Lets blow the super slow mo replay up 500% and then check to see if your shoe touched the blade of grass, etc, etc. All of this bullsh!t to decide the outcome of games.

    NFL is becoming so hard to watch.

    Totally disgusting.

     

    Totally agree.

     

    The game has become a farce.

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