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    PURE EXAMPLE OF VEGAS CONTROLLING THE NFL!!!!!.......!!!!!!

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    Creativity88
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 10:26 PM ET #76

    Ok wanna be Kasparov, whatever you say!! Check mate muppet
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 10:45 PM ET #77

    MuPpets!!!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke4sioh8tBw
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    MuPpets!!!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke4sioh8tBw
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 10:52 PM ET #78

    conspiracy theorists are those who recently just got their clocks cleaned making a wager that appeared on paper to be the obvious play and fell victim to the masses,  let it rest.  prove it or just get some help.  These threads always make me laugh.  Looooooooser..................
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    conspiracy theorists are those who recently just got their clocks cleaned making a wager that appeared on paper to be the obvious play and fell victim to the masses,  let it rest.  prove it or just get some help.  These threads always make me laugh.  Looooooooser..................
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 10:58 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by Creativity88:

    Wow, people are really that stupid, i stated in the original post and many times in comments that i never placed a bet on this game, yet losers like you keep on saying i did, where did i ever said i did u moron, i did this bcse i felt something was wrong and defenetly fishy at the end of that game, and if you read carefully i stated that everything started to happen after the denver touchdown which made it 35-14. U muppet are so in denial that you make me lol very hard, if you can't take it, and come in here and make things up bcse you never really read the whole thing take your sorry ass somewhere else, i'm sure there a lot of other posts u can go and show your stupidity in!!! Dum muppets, i didn't place no bet on the game!!!!


    Again, there are people in life that "get it" and there are people in life that do not. You're the guy that shows up to a funeral without a tie, you're the guy who shows up for a night club in tennis shoes. It's sad, it really is. You want us to believe you have spent 24 straight hours of your life discussing, ranting, acting like a child, and yet you had no emotional attachment to the game? You are beyond the point of trying to prove your so called theory, and have gone straight to the name calling and cursing to prove your point. Nobody responds to that in a respectful manor or values the opinions of people who can't get their point across without such antics.

    Get a clue before you place another hard earned dollar on a professional betting event. Your type, is the reason this place has gone down the shitter. Ad something insightful to the site, ranting and raving isn't needed when you lose a wager -- then trying to spend the next 24-hours convincing us you didn't wager a dollar on the game.
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    Wow, people are really that stupid, i stated in the original post and many times in comments that i never placed a bet on this game, yet losers like you keep on saying i did, where did i ever said i did u moron, i did this bcse i felt something was wrong and defenetly fishy at the end of that game, and if you read carefully i stated that everything started to happen after the denver touchdown which made it 35-14. U muppet are so in denial that you make me lol very hard, if you can't take it, and come in here and make things up bcse you never really read the whole thing take your sorry ass somewhere else, i'm sure there a lot of other posts u can go and show your stupidity in!!! Dum muppets, i didn't place no bet on the game!!!!


    Again, there are people in life that "get it" and there are people in life that do not. You're the guy that shows up to a funeral without a tie, you're the guy who shows up for a night club in tennis shoes. It's sad, it really is. You want us to believe you have spent 24 straight hours of your life discussing, ranting, acting like a child, and yet you had no emotional attachment to the game? You are beyond the point of trying to prove your so called theory, and have gone straight to the name calling and cursing to prove your point. Nobody responds to that in a respectful manor or values the opinions of people who can't get their point across without such antics.

    Get a clue before you place another hard earned dollar on a professional betting event. Your type, is the reason this place has gone down the shitter. Ad something insightful to the site, ranting and raving isn't needed when you lose a wager -- then trying to spend the next 24-hours convincing us you didn't wager a dollar on the game.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 11:29 PM ET #80

    Lol, you must be then the guy who goes to his bookie to place a bet and when it comes to pay, you say do you accept foreign currency!! I never said anything bad to people with decent comments on here, if you remark, i take good care of my muppets, and since you wanted to be one so bad, you got it!! If you come in here and make a decent comment or come with real examples i will respect you, but i just can't take bullshiet from all the muppets in these forums, there are a lot of very smart people here, someone has to take care of the rest!!! And didn't spent 24hrs concincing anyone, i just said my opinion, defenetly didn't force you or anyone to believe it or to come here trash mouth me!!!! So mister wise guy, come back when you have something real to say or real examples why what i've said isn't rigth!!! Enjoy your evening muppet
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    Lol, you must be then the guy who goes to his bookie to place a bet and when it comes to pay, you say do you accept foreign currency!! I never said anything bad to people with decent comments on here, if you remark, i take good care of my muppets, and since you wanted to be one so bad, you got it!! If you come in here and make a decent comment or come with real examples i will respect you, but i just can't take bullshiet from all the muppets in these forums, there are a lot of very smart people here, someone has to take care of the rest!!! And didn't spent 24hrs concincing anyone, i just said my opinion, defenetly didn't force you or anyone to believe it or to come here trash mouth me!!!! So mister wise guy, come back when you have something real to say or real examples why what i've said isn't rigth!!! Enjoy your evening muppet
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 11:40 PM ET #81

    So does this mean you'll be quitting NFL gambling?
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 11:46 PM ET #82

    I don't really bet on NFL, hockey i do a lot and it's not for big amounts!! As i've said i didn't make this post bcse of losing any bet, and i agree that people who say that a game is fixed bcse they lost a bet it's real bullshiet. I did this bcse i saw something you rarely see, especially without putting any bet on the game, i guess for some people that is to hard to understand!!
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    I don't really bet on NFL, hockey i do a lot and it's not for big amounts!! As i've said i didn't make this post bcse of losing any bet, and i agree that people who say that a game is fixed bcse they lost a bet it's real bullshiet. I did this bcse i saw something you rarely see, especially without putting any bet on the game, i guess for some people that is to hard to understand!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 11:56 PM ET #83

    the refs IMO could b bought...not many flags thrown in that game,until sd was on denvers 40?SHIT HAPPENS!!! HOPE FULLY NEXT TIME SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS WE ALL HAVE THE UNDER!!!  ...P.S.HOW SHITTY WAS THAT FIELD???COACH GRUDEN EVEN SAID WHATS UP WITH THIS FIELD??HE PROBABLY HAD 10K ON THE OVER....HOW DO U THINK HE FEELS???   PEACE OUT...
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    the refs IMO could b bought...not many flags thrown in that game,until sd was on denvers 40?SHIT HAPPENS!!! HOPE FULLY NEXT TIME SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS WE ALL HAVE THE UNDER!!!  ...P.S.HOW SHITTY WAS THAT FIELD???COACH GRUDEN EVEN SAID WHATS UP WITH THIS FIELD??HE PROBABLY HAD 10K ON THE OVER....HOW DO U THINK HE FEELS???   PEACE OUT...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 12:31 AM ET #84

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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 12:41 AM ET #85

    I had the under so I'm not complaining...

    I'd also like to give a big fat   to "cacabware" for your stunning and insane 5 star RSI...

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    I had the under so I'm not complaining...

    I'd also like to give a big fat   to "cacabware" for your stunning and insane 5 star RSI...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 12:43 AM ET #86

    The rich control everything in this country.  Look at Goldman Sach, they committed fraud and got away clean with minor fine.  All the cry for a bailout were from the big GS brokerage firm.  They can't lose.  They were also the first to get Bird Flu Vaccines before the public.  The biggest financial debacle happened and no one was responsible.

    Same with gambling, not very game is controlled by Vegas, but there are few big games.  It's not just Vegas, but ESPN also get big money for commercials and advertisements. 

    Everything is about money!!!!

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    The rich control everything in this country.  Look at Goldman Sach, they committed fraud and got away clean with minor fine.  All the cry for a bailout were from the big GS brokerage firm.  They can't lose.  They were also the first to get Bird Flu Vaccines before the public.  The biggest financial debacle happened and no one was responsible.

    Same with gambling, not very game is controlled by Vegas, but there are few big games.  It's not just Vegas, but ESPN also get big money for commercials and advertisements. 

    Everything is about money!!!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 12:47 AM ET #87

    i say  thank you vegas for me being on the right side!  Its the same thing every week with anyone who bets... if the game you take comes close to the line set and ur on the wrong side... then its automatically a fix.... if you win then your mouth is shut and you collect your money...  would i be surprised if this was true... not at all...
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    i say  thank you vegas for me being on the right side!  Its the same thing every week with anyone who bets... if the game you take comes close to the line set and ur on the wrong side... then its automatically a fix.... if you win then your mouth is shut and you collect your money...  would i be surprised if this was true... not at all...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 12:49 AM ET #88

    And as for their being such thing as a fix in the NFL, that's laughable. 

     I do however believe point shaving in the NBA is still an issue.  I find it hard to accept that there was only 1 Donaghey in the mix.  Plus, its so much easier to control the scoring in an NBA since refs calls are directly related to point scoring. 

     NFL is what it is.  If you lost on the over last night it's not because the fix was in, its because you followed the herd like a sheep, when true capping and logic would have you placing your money on the UNDER (which would have hit by a much wider margin if not for a few insane 4th down plays that extended pt scoring drives for both teams. i.e.- fake punt, 4th and 13 miracle catches).

    Just gamble and have fun! 

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    And as for their being such thing as a fix in the NFL, that's laughable. 

     I do however believe point shaving in the NBA is still an issue.  I find it hard to accept that there was only 1 Donaghey in the mix.  Plus, its so much easier to control the scoring in an NBA since refs calls are directly related to point scoring. 

     NFL is what it is.  If you lost on the over last night it's not because the fix was in, its because you followed the herd like a sheep, when true capping and logic would have you placing your money on the UNDER (which would have hit by a much wider margin if not for a few insane 4th down plays that extended pt scoring drives for both teams. i.e.- fake punt, 4th and 13 miracle catches).

    Just gamble and have fun! 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 12:58 AM ET #89

    Quote Originally Posted by Creativity88:

    I think you are a true example of a muppet!!! First of all i never placed a bet on this game......and second of all billions of dollars may be little to vegas and yourself, even if it's 0,000000000000000001% of 1% vegas ain't vegas for nothing. How do you think they made it to where they are at, all that money beeing made!!!! At saying give it to the poor since it's not much, haha enjoy the world u're leaving muppet and have a nice sunny day tomorrow!!lol


    You think Vegas control all the sports book too, you are so naive

    The book or vegas all they try to do is balance the bet and they collect juice
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    I think you are a true example of a muppet!!! First of all i never placed a bet on this game......and second of all billions of dollars may be little to vegas and yourself, even if it's 0,000000000000000001% of 1% vegas ain't vegas for nothing. How do you think they made it to where they are at, all that money beeing made!!!! At saying give it to the poor since it's not much, haha enjoy the world u're leaving muppet and have a nice sunny day tomorrow!!lol


    You think Vegas control all the sports book too, you are so naive

    The book or vegas all they try to do is balance the bet and they collect juice
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 1:12 AM ET #90

    Quote Originally Posted by PokinSmot:

    just recently....wasnt a team forced to call a time out so they can run a commercial? and they DID!

    C'MON MAN!!

    I believe that was the Titans Jags game

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    just recently....wasnt a team forced to call a time out so they can run a commercial? and they DID!

    C'MON MAN!!

    I believe that was the Titans Jags game

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 1:35 AM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by aceantz33:

    i say  thank you vegas for me being on the right side!  Its the same thing every week with anyone who bets... if the game you take comes close to the line set and ur on the wrong side... then its automatically a fix.... if you win then your mouth is shut and you collect your money...  would i be surprised if this was true... not at all...
    I wouldn't be surprised either, i love when some people just say oh yeah we know there is cheathing in the nba but no way that it is possible in the NFL, are you kidding me, at least this guy here who posted his comment wouldn't be surprised if it would be real, well that means it is possible, like saying the economy just droped bcse the states fuck it up, but other countries wouldn't be affected by this!!! Really, wake up, we are talking about money here and what controls this world, greed baby, GREED!!! Get it, if not
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    Quote Originally Posted by aceantz33:

    i say  thank you vegas for me being on the right side!  Its the same thing every week with anyone who bets... if the game you take comes close to the line set and ur on the wrong side... then its automatically a fix.... if you win then your mouth is shut and you collect your money...  would i be surprised if this was true... not at all...
    I wouldn't be surprised either, i love when some people just say oh yeah we know there is cheathing in the nba but no way that it is possible in the NFL, are you kidding me, at least this guy here who posted his comment wouldn't be surprised if it would be real, well that means it is possible, like saying the economy just droped bcse the states fuck it up, but other countries wouldn't be affected by this!!! Really, wake up, we are talking about money here and what controls this world, greed baby, GREED!!! Get it, if not
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cts99:

    1st off you folks have no idea where the money has landed on a nfl game. LAS VEGAS is a partner with some offshore casions and sportsbooks.The big players bet offshore for many reasons.They do not want to declare winnings to the IRS. The books make most of there money on parlays,and it is a fact most players bet the favorite and over.The dogs have has a banner year covering,Next as far as a fix,there are always going to be games that are not on the up and up. Last nights game the total was fifty,that is not prime number in the nfl. 49 is a prime 7x7 = 49. Vegas loves to shade the prime numbers a point or so. Look at green bay the 2nd coming last year they were lighting up the scoreboard,this year bad over team.The books are smart. Last, the fans that think a game can not be fixed are just blind.Just to give you a hint watch the pitt/oakland game from last sunday. The steelers covered the 8 but the total of 41 going over was not going to happen.The refs took care of that. There always will be that shady game that the public misses.
    It didn't go over because the steelers won by 1/2 time and the raiders couldn't score. Not because it is fixed. C'MON MAN!  p.s. I had the under!
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    1st off you folks have no idea where the money has landed on a nfl game. LAS VEGAS is a partner with some offshore casions and sportsbooks.The big players bet offshore for many reasons.They do not want to declare winnings to the IRS. The books make most of there money on parlays,and it is a fact most players bet the favorite and over.The dogs have has a banner year covering,Next as far as a fix,there are always going to be games that are not on the up and up. Last nights game the total was fifty,that is not prime number in the nfl. 49 is a prime 7x7 = 49. Vegas loves to shade the prime numbers a point or so. Look at green bay the 2nd coming last year they were lighting up the scoreboard,this year bad over team.The books are smart. Last, the fans that think a game can not be fixed are just blind.Just to give you a hint watch the pitt/oakland game from last sunday. The steelers covered the 8 but the total of 41 going over was not going to happen.The refs took care of that. There always will be that shady game that the public misses.
    It didn't go over because the steelers won by 1/2 time and the raiders couldn't score. Not because it is fixed. C'MON MAN!  p.s. I had the under!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 9:26 AM ET #93

    Quote Originally Posted by Gridguesser:

     

    I knew years ago, that profootball was fixed. Too many strange things seem to happen in them games. Oh yea, the San Diego/ Pittsburgh game a few years ago ( I had Pittsburgh) !

    Did you people ever notice that there are alot of teams still in it ? Don't you think that this is just a little strange ? You can't sell hotdogs in an empty stadium... For example take a look at the NFC West, everyone is still in it and they all have shitty records !!! I grant you that some teams Buffalo, Carolina, Cincinnati there season is done, but those teams are so bad they can't even win on a fix !!!

    Go away...
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    I knew years ago, that profootball was fixed. Too many strange things seem to happen in them games. Oh yea, the San Diego/ Pittsburgh game a few years ago ( I had Pittsburgh) !

    Did you people ever notice that there are alot of teams still in it ? Don't you think that this is just a little strange ? You can't sell hotdogs in an empty stadium... For example take a look at the NFC West, everyone is still in it and they all have shitty records !!! I grant you that some teams Buffalo, Carolina, Cincinnati there season is done, but those teams are so bad they can't even win on a fix !!!

    Go away...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 9:32 AM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by Creativity88:

    I don't really bet on NFL, hockey i do a lot and it's not for big amounts!! As i've said i didn't make this post bcse of losing any bet, and i agree that people who say that a game is fixed bcse they lost a bet it's real bullshiet. I did this bcse i saw something you rarely see, especially without putting any bet on the game, i guess for some people that is to hard to understand!!
    Hockey is fixed too. You know, the goalie just lets a guy score a hat trick to go "over". Are you going to tell us that next? Right side or wrong side - 50/50 chance jackass.
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    I don't really bet on NFL, hockey i do a lot and it's not for big amounts!! As i've said i didn't make this post bcse of losing any bet, and i agree that people who say that a game is fixed bcse they lost a bet it's real bullshiet. I did this bcse i saw something you rarely see, especially without putting any bet on the game, i guess for some people that is to hard to understand!!
    Hockey is fixed too. You know, the goalie just lets a guy score a hat trick to go "over". Are you going to tell us that next? Right side or wrong side - 50/50 chance jackass.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creativity88:

    I don't really bet on NFL, hockey i do a lot and it's not for big amounts!! As i've said i didn't make this post bcse of losing any bet, and i agree that people who say that a game is fixed bcse they lost a bet it's real bullshiet. I did this bcse i saw something you rarely see, especially without putting any bet on the game, i guess for some people that is to hard to understand!!

     

    Let's see here, in the NFL contest on the site you did pick the over on the game, you lost units on sunday, the only day you made picks this season. 

    You lost units again on monday, "BECAUSE THE OVER LOST" , had the over come in, finally you would have won some units.

    So to say you never bet the game, you certainly without any question had incentive to see the over come in !!!!

    You'll never improve your sports betting skills by blaming the league for your loses !!   

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creativity88:

    I don't really bet on NFL, hockey i do a lot and it's not for big amounts!! As i've said i didn't make this post bcse of losing any bet, and i agree that people who say that a game is fixed bcse they lost a bet it's real bullshiet. I did this bcse i saw something you rarely see, especially without putting any bet on the game, i guess for some people that is to hard to understand!!

     

    Let's see here, in the NFL contest on the site you did pick the over on the game, you lost units on sunday, the only day you made picks this season. 

    You lost units again on monday, "BECAUSE THE OVER LOST" , had the over come in, finally you would have won some units.

    So to say you never bet the game, you certainly without any question had incentive to see the over come in !!!!

    You'll never improve your sports betting skills by blaming the league for your loses !!   

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 9:47 AM ET #96

    THIS IS WHY IF YOU BELIEVE SHIT LIKE THIS YOU SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE UNDER....IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT EVERYONE WAS POUNDING THE CHARGERS AND THE OVER..NOW WHICH ONE IS EASIER TO CONTROL...OBV THE GAME STAYING UNDER...ESPECIALLY WHEN A TEAM TAKEAS A BIG LEAD EVERY COACH WITH HALF A BRAIN WILL TAKE THE AIR OUT OF THE BALL AND POUND THE ROCK... GL
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    THIS IS WHY IF YOU BELIEVE SHIT LIKE THIS YOU SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE UNDER....IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT EVERYONE WAS POUNDING THE CHARGERS AND THE OVER..NOW WHICH ONE IS EASIER TO CONTROL...OBV THE GAME STAYING UNDER...ESPECIALLY WHEN A TEAM TAKEAS A BIG LEAD EVERY COACH WITH HALF A BRAIN WILL TAKE THE AIR OUT OF THE BALL AND POUND THE ROCK... GL
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 10:25 AM ET #97

    zip it ,  you were on the wrong side plain and simple.  if you want to use this THEORY,  just bet against the public every game and you will be a millionaire.  there is no fix on .  if you had bet the under, like i did,  this thread would not be here.  vegas makes there 10's of millions every weekend on getting even action on both side and making their money on the juice .   come on man.  with the thousands of players in pro sports dont you think someone would leak that this was happening

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    zip it ,  you were on the wrong side plain and simple.  if you want to use this THEORY,  just bet against the public every game and you will be a millionaire.  there is no fix on .  if you had bet the under, like i did,  this thread would not be here.  vegas makes there 10's of millions every weekend on getting even action on both side and making their money on the juice .   come on man.  with the thousands of players in pro sports dont you think someone would leak that this was happening

     
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    Few things here. There was noooo where to go with the football for Orton other than short check downs to Moreno towards the end of the game. With deep zones like the Chargers were playing it was impossible to push the ball deep. It would have been easy interceptions for the Chargers. As far as the Broncos punting, thats what you do in that position, if you turn the ball over right there, Chargers put another TD in and you have another AFC West blowout and issue. ie. Broncos- Chiefs last week.  As far as your comment on the Broncos Defense playing "Really Really" hard. Buddy this is the NFL, their Defense is allll playing for their JOBS and a position on the field.. No kidding they are playing "Really Really" hard.. Just based on how you write about the NFL its obvious your not very involved in the game and your arguments are extremely one sided. Just stop posting things like this and wasting everyones time.
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    Few things here. There was noooo where to go with the football for Orton other than short check downs to Moreno towards the end of the game. With deep zones like the Chargers were playing it was impossible to push the ball deep. It would have been easy interceptions for the Chargers. As far as the Broncos punting, thats what you do in that position, if you turn the ball over right there, Chargers put another TD in and you have another AFC West blowout and issue. ie. Broncos- Chiefs last week.  As far as your comment on the Broncos Defense playing "Really Really" hard. Buddy this is the NFL, their Defense is allll playing for their JOBS and a position on the field.. No kidding they are playing "Really Really" hard.. Just based on how you write about the NFL its obvious your not very involved in the game and your arguments are extremely one sided. Just stop posting things like this and wasting everyones time.
     
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    world peace
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    That was one idiotic diatribe.........  something tells me a little boy wrote that one up....

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    That was one idiotic diatribe.........  something tells me a little boy wrote that one up....

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