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    PURE EXAMPLE OF VEGAS CONTROLLING THE NFL!!!!!.......!!!!!!

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    Creativity88
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 7:39 PM ET #51

    Why does it seem so hard for people to understand that i never placed a bet on this game or yet the over!! It's bcse you fools believe that the only reason i would do this it's i lost on it, which i didn't, just had my eyes wide open and saw something very fishy going on!!! And not saying the NFL made the call for this game to stop scoring but the people with influence on the outcome of the game!! Players will just execute what they are told, no questions asked!!! Wake up from your garbage excuse that when you lose it's the only time when games are fixed, i'm not a loser, just smarter to see things that some muppets in here they are so in denial of!!
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    Why does it seem so hard for people to understand that i never placed a bet on this game or yet the over!! It's bcse you fools believe that the only reason i would do this it's i lost on it, which i didn't, just had my eyes wide open and saw something very fishy going on!!! And not saying the NFL made the call for this game to stop scoring but the people with influence on the outcome of the game!! Players will just execute what they are told, no questions asked!!! Wake up from your garbage excuse that when you lose it's the only time when games are fixed, i'm not a loser, just smarter to see things that some muppets in here they are so in denial of!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 7:43 PM ET #52

    its OK that you had the OVER.....we understand your frustration
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 7:56 PM ET #53

    PEANUTS!
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 7:59 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by Creativity88:

    if you lazy bums who bash this topic bcse you are muppets living in a perfect world where nothing like this could ever happen




    God this is the most pathetic shit, and i see it a million times a day on Covers...


    EVERYBODY WHO POSTED ON THIS THREAD... RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU ARE TRYING TO ARGUE THAT THE WORLD IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, AND NOTHING SHADY EVER HAPPENS?


    i want to know who made that argument, because after about 20 different responses, this is the best thing Creativity (ironic!) could come up with...

    if you don't have something better than... "oh you're all such suckers cuz you think we live in a Utopian world where nobody does bad things"... then fuck off and don't make a thread like this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creativity88:

    if you lazy bums who bash this topic bcse you are muppets living in a perfect world where nothing like this could ever happen




    God this is the most pathetic shit, and i see it a million times a day on Covers...


    EVERYBODY WHO POSTED ON THIS THREAD... RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU ARE TRYING TO ARGUE THAT THE WORLD IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, AND NOTHING SHADY EVER HAPPENS?


    i want to know who made that argument, because after about 20 different responses, this is the best thing Creativity (ironic!) could come up with...

    if you don't have something better than... "oh you're all such suckers cuz you think we live in a Utopian world where nobody does bad things"... then fuck off and don't make a thread like this!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 8:05 PM ET #55

    Great Job 88. It's all Fixed. I tel everyone. Great job mon vieux!
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    Great Job 88. It's all Fixed. I tel everyone. Great job mon vieux!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 8:20 PM ET #56

    Ok First of all last nights games was not fixed how could all those

    people be in on it and it not get discovered.

    also if kadeing made that fg it goes over

    50 is way too high of a number for most teams only when u have a

    matchup like jac/hou with no defense does that stand a chance

     think about it both teams need to score 25 points ,one team needs

    40 and the other needs at least 13. or one team needs 35 and the

    other 17 how often do u see scores like that? most of the time it's

    20-17,17-14, 24-20,28-17 scores like that.

    Is there a posibility REFS are fixing games yes because it's been

    exposed in the nba, could it be refs are just making bad calls yes!

    and that polomolu call when it was an interception td and they ruled

    it not but later reviewed it in the week and said it should have been

    cost me 1100 dollars lol but to the naked eye which is how the refs

    make a call there was no way of telling that his hand was under it

    and it didn't hit the ground which is why they should have reviewed

    the play but for some reason didn't. interesting and what do u know

    vegas needed the chargers in that game. if i was kansas city i'd be

    especially pissed off last week when they treid to challenge that

    play against denver and was told they couldent because the

    equipment wasn't working what the fuck is with that.

    Bottom line games are not fixed by players,coaches,etc but there is

    a possibility refs make bad calls to help the books sure.


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    Ok First of all last nights games was not fixed how could all those

    people be in on it and it not get discovered.

    also if kadeing made that fg it goes over

    50 is way too high of a number for most teams only when u have a

    matchup like jac/hou with no defense does that stand a chance

     think about it both teams need to score 25 points ,one team needs

    40 and the other needs at least 13. or one team needs 35 and the

    other 17 how often do u see scores like that? most of the time it's

    20-17,17-14, 24-20,28-17 scores like that.

    Is there a posibility REFS are fixing games yes because it's been

    exposed in the nba, could it be refs are just making bad calls yes!

    and that polomolu call when it was an interception td and they ruled

    it not but later reviewed it in the week and said it should have been

    cost me 1100 dollars lol but to the naked eye which is how the refs

    make a call there was no way of telling that his hand was under it

    and it didn't hit the ground which is why they should have reviewed

    the play but for some reason didn't. interesting and what do u know

    vegas needed the chargers in that game. if i was kansas city i'd be

    especially pissed off last week when they treid to challenge that

    play against denver and was told they couldent because the

    equipment wasn't working what the fuck is with that.

    Bottom line games are not fixed by players,coaches,etc but there is

    a possibility refs make bad calls to help the books sure.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 8:28 PM ET #57

    I couldn't even finish reading your post because it didn't actually give us any information, it just kept stating the same thing over and over again, which is a crock of shit. Its just one bet, move on, no need to rant over it. There is a reason this is gambling. You were on the wrong side, live with it! That is the risk we take when we put our money in flux for 3-4 hours at a time.

    Without getting into the wrong side/right side talk, you were on the wrong side not only by the final score, but by what the smart people were on.

    Moving to the game, it didn't even stand a chance to go over if not for a converted 4th and 11 that went for a TD to Brandon Lloyd, did you forget that play, or just decide to not include it? Without a bubbled catch on a 4th and a mile you don't even have a chance for it to go over.

    The next point, and quite a hilarious one, is how lucky the Over backers almost got when they decided down 31 points with 4 minutes to go they would bring out Kyle Orton and let him pad his stats. I'm confused for a minute, isn't this a Broncos organization who invested multiple draft picks to move up and get Tim Tebow? This is the same team trying to convince us that he is the quarterback of the future, not a better time in the world to get this kid some game action under center, yet they trot out Kyle Orton and spread it out 5 wide and run a hurry up.

    How many football games have you watched in your life? It's quite common for a team to slow things down with a big lead. San Diego did just that late in the 3rd and through the 4th quarter. They ran the ball at will and kept the clock ticking. No reason to whip it all over the park up 28 points when you have to see this very Broncos team again to end the season. Why would they give them added motivation in a game that could be more critical a few weeks down the road by running it up and hanging 50 on them?

    Your "Theories" are flawed, try again! Next time don't spend all your Canadian Quarters at one time.


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    I couldn't even finish reading your post because it didn't actually give us any information, it just kept stating the same thing over and over again, which is a crock of shit. Its just one bet, move on, no need to rant over it. There is a reason this is gambling. You were on the wrong side, live with it! That is the risk we take when we put our money in flux for 3-4 hours at a time.

    Without getting into the wrong side/right side talk, you were on the wrong side not only by the final score, but by what the smart people were on.

    Moving to the game, it didn't even stand a chance to go over if not for a converted 4th and 11 that went for a TD to Brandon Lloyd, did you forget that play, or just decide to not include it? Without a bubbled catch on a 4th and a mile you don't even have a chance for it to go over.

    The next point, and quite a hilarious one, is how lucky the Over backers almost got when they decided down 31 points with 4 minutes to go they would bring out Kyle Orton and let him pad his stats. I'm confused for a minute, isn't this a Broncos organization who invested multiple draft picks to move up and get Tim Tebow? This is the same team trying to convince us that he is the quarterback of the future, not a better time in the world to get this kid some game action under center, yet they trot out Kyle Orton and spread it out 5 wide and run a hurry up.

    How many football games have you watched in your life? It's quite common for a team to slow things down with a big lead. San Diego did just that late in the 3rd and through the 4th quarter. They ran the ball at will and kept the clock ticking. No reason to whip it all over the park up 28 points when you have to see this very Broncos team again to end the season. Why would they give them added motivation in a game that could be more critical a few weeks down the road by running it up and hanging 50 on them?

    Your "Theories" are flawed, try again! Next time don't spend all your Canadian Quarters at one time.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 8:29 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by WiseGuys-R-Us:

    I couldn't even finish reading your post because it didn't actually give us any information, it just kept stating the same thing over and over again, which is a crock of shit. Its just one bet, move on, no need to rant over it. There is a reason this is gambling. You were on the wrong side, live with it! That is the risk we take when we put our money in flux for 3-4 hours at a time.

    Without getting into the wrong side/right side talk, you were on the wrong side not only by the final score, but by what the smart people were on.

    Moving to the game, it didn't even stand a chance to go over if not for a converted 4th and 11 that went for a TD to Brandon Lloyd, did you forget that play, or just decide to not include it? Without a bubbled catch on a 4th and a mile you don't even have a chance for it to go over.

    The next point, and quite a hilarious one, is how lucky the Over backers almost got when they decided down 31 points with 4 minutes to go they would bring out Kyle Orton and let him pad his stats. I'm confused for a minute, isn't this a Broncos organization who invested multiple draft picks to move up and get Tim Tebow? This is the same team trying to convince us that he is the quarterback of the future, not a better time in the world to get this kid some game action under center, yet they trot out Kyle Orton and spread it out 5 wide and run a hurry up.

    How many football games have you watched in your life? It's quite common for a team to slow things down with a big lead. San Diego did just that late in the 3rd and through the 4th quarter. They ran the ball at will and kept the clock ticking. No reason to whip it all over the park up 28 points when you have to see this very Broncos team again to end the season. Why would they give them added motivation in a game that could be more critical a few weeks down the road by running it up and hanging 50 on them?

    Your "Theories" are flawed, try again! Next time don't spend all your Canadian Quarters at one time.




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    Quote Originally Posted by WiseGuys-R-Us:

    I couldn't even finish reading your post because it didn't actually give us any information, it just kept stating the same thing over and over again, which is a crock of shit. Its just one bet, move on, no need to rant over it. There is a reason this is gambling. You were on the wrong side, live with it! That is the risk we take when we put our money in flux for 3-4 hours at a time.

    Without getting into the wrong side/right side talk, you were on the wrong side not only by the final score, but by what the smart people were on.

    Moving to the game, it didn't even stand a chance to go over if not for a converted 4th and 11 that went for a TD to Brandon Lloyd, did you forget that play, or just decide to not include it? Without a bubbled catch on a 4th and a mile you don't even have a chance for it to go over.

    The next point, and quite a hilarious one, is how lucky the Over backers almost got when they decided down 31 points with 4 minutes to go they would bring out Kyle Orton and let him pad his stats. I'm confused for a minute, isn't this a Broncos organization who invested multiple draft picks to move up and get Tim Tebow? This is the same team trying to convince us that he is the quarterback of the future, not a better time in the world to get this kid some game action under center, yet they trot out Kyle Orton and spread it out 5 wide and run a hurry up.

    How many football games have you watched in your life? It's quite common for a team to slow things down with a big lead. San Diego did just that late in the 3rd and through the 4th quarter. They ran the ball at will and kept the clock ticking. No reason to whip it all over the park up 28 points when you have to see this very Broncos team again to end the season. Why would they give them added motivation in a game that could be more critical a few weeks down the road by running it up and hanging 50 on them?

    Your "Theories" are flawed, try again! Next time don't spend all your Canadian Quarters at one time.




    Should read 21.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 9:07 PM ET #59

    I THINK YOURE ON TO SOMETHING BUTT HEAD. I THINK
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 9:15 PM ET #60

    Just gotta be on the right side my man
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 9:15 PM ET #61

    Vegas collects money off of juice, they want the sides to be even so they collect an even amount from both sides. With billions of dollars being wagered the juice is also huge. 

    And for when the picks are lopsided with the line not moving maybe this computer program that calculates the odds sees that this is a good number to get people betting on one side where the other side still has a decent chance to come through by using a STATISTICAL calculation.

    Can there be errors that sway the outcome of the game? Of course, every professional athlete/official is still human and makes mistakes.

    And because you say it doesn't happen in every game doesn't that mean that it could simply be a coincidence?

    As for punting instead of going for it on 4th down.... did it ever cross your mind that the coach has more faith in his D making a stop rather than his offense making a 4th and long?
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    Vegas collects money off of juice, they want the sides to be even so they collect an even amount from both sides. With billions of dollars being wagered the juice is also huge. 

    And for when the picks are lopsided with the line not moving maybe this computer program that calculates the odds sees that this is a good number to get people betting on one side where the other side still has a decent chance to come through by using a STATISTICAL calculation.

    Can there be errors that sway the outcome of the game? Of course, every professional athlete/official is still human and makes mistakes.

    And because you say it doesn't happen in every game doesn't that mean that it could simply be a coincidence?

    As for punting instead of going for it on 4th down.... did it ever cross your mind that the coach has more faith in his D making a stop rather than his offense making a 4th and long?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 9:19 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by WiseGuys-R-Us:

    I couldn't even finish reading your post because it didn't actually give us any information, it just kept stating the same thing over and over again, which is a crock of shit. Its just one bet, move on, no need to rant over it. There is a reason this is gambling. You were on the wrong side, live with it! That is the risk we take when we put our money in flux for 3-4 hours at a time.

    Without getting into the wrong side/right side talk, you were on the wrong side not only by the final score, but by what the smart people were on.

    Moving to the game, it didn't even stand a chance to go over if not for a converted 4th and 11 that went for a TD to Brandon Lloyd, did you forget that play, or just decide to not include it? Without a bubbled catch on a 4th and a mile you don't even have a chance for it to go over.

    The next point, and quite a hilarious one, is how lucky the Over backers almost got when they decided down 31 points with 4 minutes to go they would bring out Kyle Orton and let him pad his stats. I'm confused for a minute, isn't this a Broncos organization who invested multiple draft picks to move up and get Tim Tebow? This is the same team trying to convince us that he is the quarterback of the future, not a better time in the world to get this kid some game action under center, yet they trot out Kyle Orton and spread it out 5 wide and run a hurry up.

    How many football games have you watched in your life? It's quite common for a team to slow things down with a big lead. San Diego did just that late in the 3rd and through the 4th quarter. They ran the ball at will and kept the clock ticking. No reason to whip it all over the park up 28 points when you have to see this very Broncos team again to end the season. Why would they give them added motivation in a game that could be more critical a few weeks down the road by running it up and hanging 50 on them?

    Your "Theories" are flawed, try again! Next time don't spend all your Canadian Quarters at one time.


    Wow, people are really that stupid, i stated in the original post and many times in comments that i never placed a bet on this game, yet losers like you keep on saying i did, where did i ever said i did u moron, i did this bcse i felt something was wrong and defenetly fishy at the end of that game, and if you read carefully i stated that everything started to happen after the denver touchdown which made it 35-14. U muppet are so in denial that you make me lol very hard, if you can't take it, and come in here and make things up bcse you never really read the whole thing take your sorry ass somewhere else, i'm sure there a lot of other posts u can go and show your stupidity in!!! Dum muppets, i didn't place no bet on the game!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiseGuys-R-Us:

    I couldn't even finish reading your post because it didn't actually give us any information, it just kept stating the same thing over and over again, which is a crock of shit. Its just one bet, move on, no need to rant over it. There is a reason this is gambling. You were on the wrong side, live with it! That is the risk we take when we put our money in flux for 3-4 hours at a time.

    Without getting into the wrong side/right side talk, you were on the wrong side not only by the final score, but by what the smart people were on.

    Moving to the game, it didn't even stand a chance to go over if not for a converted 4th and 11 that went for a TD to Brandon Lloyd, did you forget that play, or just decide to not include it? Without a bubbled catch on a 4th and a mile you don't even have a chance for it to go over.

    The next point, and quite a hilarious one, is how lucky the Over backers almost got when they decided down 31 points with 4 minutes to go they would bring out Kyle Orton and let him pad his stats. I'm confused for a minute, isn't this a Broncos organization who invested multiple draft picks to move up and get Tim Tebow? This is the same team trying to convince us that he is the quarterback of the future, not a better time in the world to get this kid some game action under center, yet they trot out Kyle Orton and spread it out 5 wide and run a hurry up.

    How many football games have you watched in your life? It's quite common for a team to slow things down with a big lead. San Diego did just that late in the 3rd and through the 4th quarter. They ran the ball at will and kept the clock ticking. No reason to whip it all over the park up 28 points when you have to see this very Broncos team again to end the season. Why would they give them added motivation in a game that could be more critical a few weeks down the road by running it up and hanging 50 on them?

    Your "Theories" are flawed, try again! Next time don't spend all your Canadian Quarters at one time.


    Wow, people are really that stupid, i stated in the original post and many times in comments that i never placed a bet on this game, yet losers like you keep on saying i did, where did i ever said i did u moron, i did this bcse i felt something was wrong and defenetly fishy at the end of that game, and if you read carefully i stated that everything started to happen after the denver touchdown which made it 35-14. U muppet are so in denial that you make me lol very hard, if you can't take it, and come in here and make things up bcse you never really read the whole thing take your sorry ass somewhere else, i'm sure there a lot of other posts u can go and show your stupidity in!!! Dum muppets, i didn't place no bet on the game!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 9:22 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by TheColorPurple:

    I can say something was definitely fishy going on.
    But ever since that Troy Polomalu thing that happened a couple years ago at the end of the game sealed it for me. That was probably the most blatant cheating ive ever seen

     

    I knew years ago, that profootball was fixed. Too many strange things seem to happen in them games. Oh yea, the San Diego/ Pittsburgh game a few years ago ( I had Pittsburgh) !

    Did you people ever notice that there are alot of teams still in it ? Don't you think that this is just a little strange ? You can't sell hotdogs in an empty stadium... For example take a look at the NFC West, everyone is still in it and they all have shitty records !!! I grant you that some teams Buffalo, Carolina, Cincinnati there season is done, but those teams are so bad they can't even win on a fix !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheColorPurple:

    I can say something was definitely fishy going on.
    But ever since that Troy Polomalu thing that happened a couple years ago at the end of the game sealed it for me. That was probably the most blatant cheating ive ever seen

     

    I knew years ago, that profootball was fixed. Too many strange things seem to happen in them games. Oh yea, the San Diego/ Pittsburgh game a few years ago ( I had Pittsburgh) !

    Did you people ever notice that there are alot of teams still in it ? Don't you think that this is just a little strange ? You can't sell hotdogs in an empty stadium... For example take a look at the NFC West, everyone is still in it and they all have shitty records !!! I grant you that some teams Buffalo, Carolina, Cincinnati there season is done, but those teams are so bad they can't even win on a fix !!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 9:25 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by amp1080:

    Vegas collects money off of juice, they want the sides to be even so they collect an even amount from both sides. With billions of dollars being wagered the juice is also huge. 

    And for when the picks are lopsided with the line not moving maybe this computer program that calculates the odds sees that this is a good number to get people betting on one side where the other side still has a decent chance to come through by using a STATISTICAL calculation.

    Can there be errors that sway the outcome of the game? Of course, every professional athlete/official is still human and makes mistakes.

    And because you say it doesn't happen in every game doesn't that mean that it could simply be a coincidence?

    As for punting instead of going for it on 4th down.... did it ever cross your mind that the coach has more faith in his D making a stop rather than his offense making a 4th and long?
    Another muppet talking non sense, punt bcse their coach had faith in his D making a stop, are you really that dumb, there were a little over 2min left and the san diego offence embarassed the denver D the whole game, why does it even matter if they don't make the 4th as long as they go for it!!! People love to make non sense comments to contradict other people just so they feel smart.........haha.........good one boy..........really good one!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by amp1080:

    Vegas collects money off of juice, they want the sides to be even so they collect an even amount from both sides. With billions of dollars being wagered the juice is also huge. 

    And for when the picks are lopsided with the line not moving maybe this computer program that calculates the odds sees that this is a good number to get people betting on one side where the other side still has a decent chance to come through by using a STATISTICAL calculation.

    Can there be errors that sway the outcome of the game? Of course, every professional athlete/official is still human and makes mistakes.

    And because you say it doesn't happen in every game doesn't that mean that it could simply be a coincidence?

    As for punting instead of going for it on 4th down.... did it ever cross your mind that the coach has more faith in his D making a stop rather than his offense making a 4th and long?
    Another muppet talking non sense, punt bcse their coach had faith in his D making a stop, are you really that dumb, there were a little over 2min left and the san diego offence embarassed the denver D the whole game, why does it even matter if they don't make the 4th as long as they go for it!!! People love to make non sense comments to contradict other people just so they feel smart.........haha.........good one boy..........really good one!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 9:33 PM ET #65

    So go for it on 4th down with a little over 2 minutes left in a game that you have NO CHANCE of winning when losing by 3 tds? To risk injury to some starters? As a coach, ill punt the ball and look to next week. 
    Games over buddy, lets end this sad day for the broncos and let the chargers run the clock.  Like someone said, if Nate Keading would have hit the early fg the game would have went over.
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    So go for it on 4th down with a little over 2 minutes left in a game that you have NO CHANCE of winning when losing by 3 tds? To risk injury to some starters? As a coach, ill punt the ball and look to next week. 
    Games over buddy, lets end this sad day for the broncos and let the chargers run the clock.  Like someone said, if Nate Keading would have hit the early fg the game would have went over.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 9:37 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by amp1080:

    So go for it on 4th down with a little over 2 minutes left in a game that you have NO CHANCE of winning when losing by 3 tds? To risk injury to some starters? As a coach, ill punt the ball and look to next week. 
    Games over buddy, lets end this sad day for the broncos and let the chargers run the clock.  Like someone said, if Nate Keading would have hit the early fg the game would have went over.
    Only idiots say that if some field goal was made earlier in the game it would have been over, no muppet, wouldn't have been the same game, when something else happens you don't get the same result at the end as if it didn't happen!!! Stop it please, stop trying to be smart.........bcse you are not!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by amp1080:

    So go for it on 4th down with a little over 2 minutes left in a game that you have NO CHANCE of winning when losing by 3 tds? To risk injury to some starters? As a coach, ill punt the ball and look to next week. 
    Games over buddy, lets end this sad day for the broncos and let the chargers run the clock.  Like someone said, if Nate Keading would have hit the early fg the game would have went over.
    Only idiots say that if some field goal was made earlier in the game it would have been over, no muppet, wouldn't have been the same game, when something else happens you don't get the same result at the end as if it didn't happen!!! Stop it please, stop trying to be smart.........bcse you are not!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 9:43 PM ET #67

    What were you expecting out of this 4th down???? How would it affect the game from a win lose perspective? None. Denver converts drives the field maybe scores some points but still loses the game. San Diego stops them, maybe runs the clock, maybe puts up three but they still win the game.  Only thing that would have changed was which gambling side wins, in which neither the chargers or broncos are interested in. I don't think the NFL as a whole is corrupted but players, staff and officials definitely can be, as we've seen before.
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    What were you expecting out of this 4th down???? How would it affect the game from a win lose perspective? None. Denver converts drives the field maybe scores some points but still loses the game. San Diego stops them, maybe runs the clock, maybe puts up three but they still win the game.  Only thing that would have changed was which gambling side wins, in which neither the chargers or broncos are interested in. I don't think the NFL as a whole is corrupted but players, staff and officials definitely can be, as we've seen before.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 9:51 PM ET #68

    I had Philly and the over the week before like everyone else in the world, don't tell me the public didn't win then!!  How come they didn't call to fix that game!!!!!!!!!!
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    I had Philly and the over the week before like everyone else in the world, don't tell me the public didn't win then!!  How come they didn't call to fix that game!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 9:52 PM ET #69

    So explain to me why would denver go for it on 4th and long with 2 minutes left down by 3 tds?

    I can understand your point of trying onside kicks early in the 4th quarter but you can relate to pulling your goalie with 6 minutes left in the 3rd when down by 4 goals.

    Please stop calling me a muppet, or insulting my intelligence with your conspiracies. Ohh and, what exactly are you looking to get out of this?
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    So explain to me why would denver go for it on 4th and long with 2 minutes left down by 3 tds?

    I can understand your point of trying onside kicks early in the 4th quarter but you can relate to pulling your goalie with 6 minutes left in the 3rd when down by 4 goals.

    Please stop calling me a muppet, or insulting my intelligence with your conspiracies. Ohh and, what exactly are you looking to get out of this?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 10:00 PM ET #70

    Things to ponder for Week 12 of the NFL

    (over) the total.

    (under) the total.

    (over) the total.

    (over) the total.

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    (over) the total.

    (under) the total.

    (over) the total.

    (over) the total.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 10:01 PM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by amp1080:

    So explain to me why would denver go for it on 4th and long with 2 minutes left down by 3 tds?

    I can understand your point of trying onside kicks early in the 4th quarter but you can relate to pulling your goalie with 6 minutes left in the 3rd when down by 4 goals.

    Please stop calling me a muppet, or insulting my intelligence with your conspiracies. Ohh and, what exactly are you looking to get out of this?
    Hey amp are you really that much of a leech, like please muppet stop looking for attention, i just told my point of view, never forced anyone to belive what i say, but to the losers who are looking for bashing, bring it on, i can take hundreds of u at one time!!! Many many times that i've seen teams go for it on 4th down, beeing down by many points in no matter which situation, in the last 8min55sec of this game you can clearly see signs of both teams doing their best not to score any points and clearly not even to make it close to scoring points. Don't compare this with hockey, bcse we are not talking about a sports where a goalie is needed!!! To many signs and for this to be a coincidence that both teams would make sure no points are scored anymore, how can you even explain that on the last drive that denver had, you can see the denver defence giving it all they got, are you kidding me, they are up 3tds and they do that, no way, unless they were told to do that!!! I made good points about the last 8min55sec and came out with most of the examples, so far i've only seen people talk outside those minutes or muppets like you who are stuck on one play, at the end especially!!!
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    So explain to me why would denver go for it on 4th and long with 2 minutes left down by 3 tds?

    I can understand your point of trying onside kicks early in the 4th quarter but you can relate to pulling your goalie with 6 minutes left in the 3rd when down by 4 goals.

    Please stop calling me a muppet, or insulting my intelligence with your conspiracies. Ohh and, what exactly are you looking to get out of this?
    Hey amp are you really that much of a leech, like please muppet stop looking for attention, i just told my point of view, never forced anyone to belive what i say, but to the losers who are looking for bashing, bring it on, i can take hundreds of u at one time!!! Many many times that i've seen teams go for it on 4th down, beeing down by many points in no matter which situation, in the last 8min55sec of this game you can clearly see signs of both teams doing their best not to score any points and clearly not even to make it close to scoring points. Don't compare this with hockey, bcse we are not talking about a sports where a goalie is needed!!! To many signs and for this to be a coincidence that both teams would make sure no points are scored anymore, how can you even explain that on the last drive that denver had, you can see the denver defence giving it all they got, are you kidding me, they are up 3tds and they do that, no way, unless they were told to do that!!! I made good points about the last 8min55sec and came out with most of the examples, so far i've only seen people talk outside those minutes or muppets like you who are stuck on one play, at the end especially!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 10:01 PM ET #72

    Shit it got cut off ----sorry
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 10:22 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by CraftyPlugz:

    Just gotta be on the right side my man


    Theoretically, it's not really 'fixed' if you are...
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    Just gotta be on the right side my man


    Theoretically, it's not really 'fixed' if you are...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 10:23 PM ET #74

    MuPpeTs!!!
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    you had the OVER........its ok bro, better luck next time
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