I am pretty sure I would be upset too if I had Pitt
( I know I had the seahawks in that "strangely officiated" superbowl ( note I didn't say fixed )
I'll say it for you. I rarely cry foul, but the Seattle-Pitt Superbowl was obviously fixed. It just shows you that the players have far less control over an outcome if the officials decide otherwise.
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Quote Originally Posted by CapoDiTuttiCapi:
Not sure how they screwed it up then
I am not sweating it because I had the Chargers
I am pretty sure I would be upset too if I had Pitt
( I know I had the seahawks in that "strangely officiated" superbowl ( note I didn't say fixed )
I'll say it for you. I rarely cry foul, but the Seattle-Pitt Superbowl was obviously fixed. It just shows you that the players have far less control over an outcome if the officials decide otherwise.
Such Bull$shit! Steelers/Refs left about 24 points off the board if you think about it. Goal line stand at the 1/2 yard line are you kidding me! Missed FG! Holding call ( Which was a holding though). And an Ed Hochulian effort on behalf of the Refs! Mike and Mike in the morning said that call had a swing of 64 MILLION DOLLARS to the books!!!!! and thats just the legal wagering! I was on the bad side of this one. Although I was on the good side of the USC/Stanford...dare I say...fix!
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Such Bull$shit! Steelers/Refs left about 24 points off the board if you think about it. Goal line stand at the 1/2 yard line are you kidding me! Missed FG! Holding call ( Which was a holding though). And an Ed Hochulian effort on behalf of the Refs! Mike and Mike in the morning said that call had a swing of 64 MILLION DOLLARS to the books!!!!! and thats just the legal wagering! I was on the bad side of this one. Although I was on the good side of the USC/Stanford...dare I say...fix!
Now you went and did it PokerB..maybe no more new threads (ya right), but still more yapping about the game. I got an idea, start throwing this crap in the General Discussion section..it's beyond olddddddd
Bet with your wallet not your heart
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Now you went and did it PokerB..maybe no more new threads (ya right), but still more yapping about the game. I got an idea, start throwing this crap in the General Discussion section..it's beyond olddddddd
The fix was in!!!! Fortunately I took my Lers on the moneyline!!!! San Diego didn't deserve to be in this game, it's a shame it came down to that for the Pitt backers. Just look at the stats.
Total yards.....Pitt-410.....SD-213
T.O.P............Pitt-36:31...SD-23:29
Turnover.........Pitt-0.........SD-2
Total domination.....yet NO td's????
SD backers had a horshoe up their asses 4 sure.
The fix was in!!
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The fix was in!!!! Fortunately I took my Lers on the moneyline!!!! San Diego didn't deserve to be in this game, it's a shame it came down to that for the Pitt backers. Just look at the stats.
Bookies win big ($64M big) following blown call at end of SD-Pitt game Cold, Hard Football Facts for November 17, 2008
From pregame.com:
Apparently, bettors lost about $64 million thanks to an errant officials' decision at the end of the San Diego-Pittsburgh game.
The Chargers, trailing 11-10 on the last play of the game, attempted a number of laterals in the hopes of scoring a freak TD from deep within Pittsburgh territory. But Steelers DB Troy Polamalu pounced on the ball and raced into the end zone for an apparent TD as time expired.
However officials ruled an illegal forward pass against the Chargers and took the TD off the board. Game over.
After the game, officials said they made a mistake.
The mistake didn't change the outcome of the game. But it did change the outcome for millions of gamblers, according to Bell. The Steelers, 5-point favorites, won 11-10 instead of 17-10.
"An estimated 100 million dollars was wagered worldwide on the Pittsburgh/San Diego game. Approximately 66 percent of that money was on the Steelers; with only 34 percent on the Chargers," said Bell.
"If the touchdown was properly upheld, Steelers bettors would have won about 32 million dollars instead of losing big. This admittedly incorrect call resulted in a 64 million dollar swing in favor of the bookies."
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Bookies win big ($64M big) following blown call at end of SD-Pitt game Cold, Hard Football Facts for November 17, 2008
From pregame.com:
Apparently, bettors lost about $64 million thanks to an errant officials' decision at the end of the San Diego-Pittsburgh game.
The Chargers, trailing 11-10 on the last play of the game, attempted a number of laterals in the hopes of scoring a freak TD from deep within Pittsburgh territory. But Steelers DB Troy Polamalu pounced on the ball and raced into the end zone for an apparent TD as time expired.
However officials ruled an illegal forward pass against the Chargers and took the TD off the board. Game over.
After the game, officials said they made a mistake.
The mistake didn't change the outcome of the game. But it did change the outcome for millions of gamblers, according to Bell. The Steelers, 5-point favorites, won 11-10 instead of 17-10.
"An estimated 100 million dollars was wagered worldwide on the Pittsburgh/San Diego game. Approximately 66 percent of that money was on the Steelers; with only 34 percent on the Chargers," said Bell.
"If the touchdown was properly upheld, Steelers bettors would have won about 32 million dollars instead of losing big. This admittedly incorrect call resulted in a 64 million dollar swing in favor of the bookies."
LOSTED 1000 ON THE GAME AND PUSHED 1000 ON THE 2ND HALF. THERE NOTHING WE CAN DO BUT MOVE ON. TO SAY YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO BET ON THE NFL IS CRAZY.JUST CHALK IT UP AS ONE OF THE WORST BEATS EVER AND THINK OF THE STORY YOU CAN TELL
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LOSTED 1000 ON THE GAME AND PUSHED 1000 ON THE 2ND HALF. THERE NOTHING WE CAN DO BUT MOVE ON. TO SAY YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO BET ON THE NFL IS CRAZY.JUST CHALK IT UP AS ONE OF THE WORST BEATS EVER AND THINK OF THE STORY YOU CAN TELL
That was the worst thing was my hedge on SD in second half as I had Pitt-Pitt under-Ari in a 3 team,so took SD in second half for half and it pushed,all you can do is LMFAO
The hold was a good call on TD play before,the TD take away was unreal.
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That was the worst thing was my hedge on SD in second half as I had Pitt-Pitt under-Ari in a 3 team,so took SD in second half for half and it pushed,all you can do is LMFAO
The hold was a good call on TD play before,the TD take away was unreal.
Had Pittsburgh but presume I used up my weekend's allotment of serendipity with Stanford and to a lesser degree Colorado. The penalty discrepancies which Timlin alluded to are rather stark but not unprecedented. I know he will take that matter up with the league office. And speaking of that office, good idea Tripsurfer to contact the NFL relative to final play. It is my feeling that the Commissioner or the head of referees owes the fans a full explanation of the call without the mangling Bushtalk provided by the game referee. I don't look for any change of final score but hopefully some heat will clarify the matter so that such does not happen again. Instead of calling the league office you may want to go to NFL.com and use their e-mail block which is accessed by the Contact us link at the bottom of their home page. Try being polite as the _____ gets the honey! I e-mailed them late last night. Spread the word. BOL
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Had Pittsburgh but presume I used up my weekend's allotment of serendipity with Stanford and to a lesser degree Colorado. The penalty discrepancies which Timlin alluded to are rather stark but not unprecedented. I know he will take that matter up with the league office. And speaking of that office, good idea Tripsurfer to contact the NFL relative to final play. It is my feeling that the Commissioner or the head of referees owes the fans a full explanation of the call without the mangling Bushtalk provided by the game referee. I don't look for any change of final score but hopefully some heat will clarify the matter so that such does not happen again. Instead of calling the league office you may want to go to NFL.com and use their e-mail block which is accessed by the Contact us link at the bottom of their home page. Try being polite as the _____ gets the honey! I e-mailed them late last night. Spread the word. BOL
I was on the under so this play won or lost me no money. With this said this display of officiating is as questionable as you can get before you can call a fix. Aside from the penalties that went against Pitt the entire game I won't even bring that into play. Sometimes you get calls and sometimes you don't.
1. There was no reason to review the play.
2. The field judge and replay official have already stated they did not know which "forward pass" each was referring to.
3. With both sides having no idea which pass each was referring to, with no forward passes ever being thrown, and with a play that should not have been reviewed in the first place, the refs found CONCLUSIVE VIEDO EVIDENCE TO OVERTURN THE CALL? Look guys I am the last person to ever call for a fixed game but all I can say is this makes no sense with the explanation that was given.
This is not a penalty, or a bad interception/fumble that results in a moose. This is a referee reviewing a play that should not have been reviewed in the first place, and finding conclusive evidence that there was a forward pass, even though there was not a single forward pass on the play.
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I was on the under so this play won or lost me no money. With this said this display of officiating is as questionable as you can get before you can call a fix. Aside from the penalties that went against Pitt the entire game I won't even bring that into play. Sometimes you get calls and sometimes you don't.
1. There was no reason to review the play.
2. The field judge and replay official have already stated they did not know which "forward pass" each was referring to.
3. With both sides having no idea which pass each was referring to, with no forward passes ever being thrown, and with a play that should not have been reviewed in the first place, the refs found CONCLUSIVE VIEDO EVIDENCE TO OVERTURN THE CALL? Look guys I am the last person to ever call for a fixed game but all I can say is this makes no sense with the explanation that was given.
This is not a penalty, or a bad interception/fumble that results in a moose. This is a referee reviewing a play that should not have been reviewed in the first place, and finding conclusive evidence that there was a forward pass, even though there was not a single forward pass on the play.
The first such score in 12,837 NFL games was in jeopardy when Troy Polamalu returned an errant lateral 12 yards for an apparent touchdown on the final play. The play was overturned on review -- it was called an illegal forward pass -- and the 11-10 final was restored.
After the game, referee Scott Green said the officials realized afterward the touchdown should have counted, though it wouldn't have affected the result.
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The first such score in 12,837 NFL games was in jeopardy when Troy Polamalu returned an errant lateral 12 yards for an apparent touchdown on the final play. The play was overturned on review -- it was called an illegal forward pass -- and the 11-10 final was restored.
After the game, referee Scott Green said the officials realized afterward the touchdown should have counted, though it wouldn't have affected the result.
But let's not start another bunch of threads about it.
Thank you
Hello???
This is a sports gambling forum. WE are the people to whom this matters the most. It is absurd of you to suggest that this incident not be discussed. This is the most blatant manipulation of the final outcome of an NFL game that most of the members of this forum have ever witnessed. This IS, or at least SHOULD be, the absolute MOST appropriate place for discussing such matters.
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Quote Originally Posted by PokerBroker:
The game is over. It was a very bizzare ending.
But let's not start another bunch of threads about it.
Thank you
Hello???
This is a sports gambling forum. WE are the people to whom this matters the most. It is absurd of you to suggest that this incident not be discussed. This is the most blatant manipulation of the final outcome of an NFL game that most of the members of this forum have ever witnessed. This IS, or at least SHOULD be, the absolute MOST appropriate place for discussing such matters.
This is a sports gambling forum. WE are the people to whom this matters the most. It is absurd of you to suggest that this incident not be discussed. This is the most blatant manipulation of the final outcome of an NFL game that most of the members of this forum have ever witnessed. This IS, or at least SHOULD be, the absolute MOST appropriate place for discussing such matters.
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Quote Originally Posted by HUD:
Hello???
This is a sports gambling forum. WE are the people to whom this matters the most. It is absurd of you to suggest that this incident not be discussed. This is the most blatant manipulation of the final outcome of an NFL game that most of the members of this forum have ever witnessed. This IS, or at least SHOULD be, the absolute MOST appropriate place for discussing such matters.
Everyone here in Las Vegas, whether you had the Chargers or the Steelers knows this was an obvious fix. This was not the first game for these refs, so don't even think that they didn't know what to do. If you do , your'e fooling yourself. I am surprised they did it on national tv. Will Goodell explain his refs actions, or will he hide from this?
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Everyone here in Las Vegas, whether you had the Chargers or the Steelers knows this was an obvious fix. This was not the first game for these refs, so don't even think that they didn't know what to do. If you do , your'e fooling yourself. I am surprised they did it on national tv. Will Goodell explain his refs actions, or will he hide from this?
The sad thing is that the NFL is not going to acknowledge the outcome of this play in regards to gambling, even though gambling funds a large part of the NFL. It's just the way it is. Let's all move on.
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The sad thing is that the NFL is not going to acknowledge the outcome of this play in regards to gambling, even though gambling funds a large part of the NFL. It's just the way it is. Let's all move on.
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What a Birthday Gift that was!! 
Thank you NFL.. Although Charger Victory would have been much better...
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