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    richwins81
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 5:22 AM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by jacobbobby:

    Defense wins championship....remember 2010 SF Giants? Who the hell will pick him to win the World Series? This another SF team will follow the same path to win it all....

    you're comparing baseball to football.  this sport is different.  in the age of qb's and passing attacks with enough offense to support.  go look back the last 10 years.  most sbowls are won by elite qbs (manning, manning, brady, rodgers, rothlisberger, etc.) not alex smith.  the last no name qb to win with an elite defense was trent dilfer.  give me a break.  ass clown
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobbobby:

    Defense wins championship....remember 2010 SF Giants? Who the hell will pick him to win the World Series? This another SF team will follow the same path to win it all....

    you're comparing baseball to football.  this sport is different.  in the age of qb's and passing attacks with enough offense to support.  go look back the last 10 years.  most sbowls are won by elite qbs (manning, manning, brady, rodgers, rothlisberger, etc.) not alex smith.  the last no name qb to win with an elite defense was trent dilfer.  give me a break.  ass clown
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 5:24 AM ET #77

    go ahead go look back more.  elway, montana, favre, warner, etc.  furthermore, in this day and age, the NFL is more about offense.  fans want points.  look at all the coddling of elite qbs and the bogus PI calls.  even if SF wins against the giants, i will play triple on new england.  
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    go ahead go look back more.  elway, montana, favre, warner, etc.  furthermore, in this day and age, the NFL is more about offense.  fans want points.  look at all the coddling of elite qbs and the bogus PI calls.  even if SF wins against the giants, i will play triple on new england.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 5:33 AM ET #78

    49ers win! Bet the house!

    Why?

    Teams that have defeated the defending Super Bowl Champions are just 1-10 ATS and winless sporting an 0-11 record in the next playoff round!

    = 49ers victory!

    Also, Vegas is favoring 49ers because they are at home. I believe the Giants are the only road team to win this post season, if I am correct. So look for the Pats to win and 49ers.

    Another huge factor is RAIN RAIN RAIN!! Look at the weather IT IS GOING TO RAIN.

    What does this mean? Rain means a running game and 49ers will shut down running game, 49ers win!

    Take Patriots -7.5, 49ers -2.5 BOOM!
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    49ers win! Bet the house!

    Why?

    Teams that have defeated the defending Super Bowl Champions are just 1-10 ATS and winless sporting an 0-11 record in the next playoff round!

    = 49ers victory!

    Also, Vegas is favoring 49ers because they are at home. I believe the Giants are the only road team to win this post season, if I am correct. So look for the Pats to win and 49ers.

    Another huge factor is RAIN RAIN RAIN!! Look at the weather IT IS GOING TO RAIN.

    What does this mean? Rain means a running game and 49ers will shut down running game, 49ers win!

    Take Patriots -7.5, 49ers -2.5 BOOM!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 8:32 AM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by richwins81:


    you're comparing baseball to football.  this sport is different.  in the age of qb's and passing attacks with enough offense to support.  go look back the last 10 years.  most sbowls are won by elite qbs (manning, manning, brady, rodgers, rothlisberger, etc.) not alex smith.  the last no name qb to win with an elite defense was trent dilfer.  give me a break.  ass clown

    everyone could look at the game in different perspective. Call people an ass clown apparently is telling people just need to ignore your opinion. Who is a clown at the end? Denfense wins championship can apply to all the team sports including soccer, basketball. This is a fact no one can deny historically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richwins81:


    you're comparing baseball to football.  this sport is different.  in the age of qb's and passing attacks with enough offense to support.  go look back the last 10 years.  most sbowls are won by elite qbs (manning, manning, brady, rodgers, rothlisberger, etc.) not alex smith.  the last no name qb to win with an elite defense was trent dilfer.  give me a break.  ass clown

    everyone could look at the game in different perspective. Call people an ass clown apparently is telling people just need to ignore your opinion. Who is a clown at the end? Denfense wins championship can apply to all the team sports including soccer, basketball. This is a fact no one can deny historically.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 10:49 AM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by EzzMoney:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by EzzMoney:

    Niners to the super bowl

    Any doubters? don't just run your mouth but come with a valid point and let's discuss it.



    how about you come up with a valid point....
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    fair enough.  I wills tart with,
    Rested team
    @home
    Better Coaching
    Beast defense aganist the RUN
    Enoguh offense; has only been outscored by 3, 10 and 2 points
     
    your turn,
     

    Rested team?  They will have had one more day of rest, let's not call this a factor.

    Giants haven't had trouble playing away...what do they have 4 consecutive road playoff victories?

    How can you say better coaching?  Is there a stat that proves this?  Tom Coughlin has a Superbowl ring on is finger, Harbaugh is the flavor of the month.

    Enough offense?  What exactly does that mean?  If I was arguing for the Giants, I would use explosive offense, or consistent offense, or dangerous offense....NOT ENOUGH OFFENSE.

    Seems to me you are reaching a little bit.  I will say the Niners run defense is the best I have ever seen.  But plays can be made against their secondary.  Eli is so locked in with all three of his receivers, I have no doubt the Giants will make enough plays.  The Niners won't be able to do much against a much improved and confident Giants defense.  If the refs don't make that ridiculous non-fumble call or the phantom roughing the passer on Rodgers, GB doesn't score a TD and finish with 6 points.  The game before that, they shutout the Atlanta Offense.  Both of these teams are head and shoulders above the Niners on offense.  Not to mention, the Niners just let up 30+ points on their home field.

    So let's relax a little bit.  You tell people to explain why yet the reasons you give for your pick are amateur at best. 

     

    Take the Giants and the points, bye the hook.  And take them Moneyline, best of luck   

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by EzzMoney:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by EzzMoney:

    Niners to the super bowl

    Any doubters? don't just run your mouth but come with a valid point and let's discuss it.



    how about you come up with a valid point....
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    fair enough.  I wills tart with,
    Rested team
    @home
    Better Coaching
    Beast defense aganist the RUN
    Enoguh offense; has only been outscored by 3, 10 and 2 points
     
    your turn,
     

    Rested team?  They will have had one more day of rest, let's not call this a factor.

    Giants haven't had trouble playing away...what do they have 4 consecutive road playoff victories?

    How can you say better coaching?  Is there a stat that proves this?  Tom Coughlin has a Superbowl ring on is finger, Harbaugh is the flavor of the month.

    Enough offense?  What exactly does that mean?  If I was arguing for the Giants, I would use explosive offense, or consistent offense, or dangerous offense....NOT ENOUGH OFFENSE.

    Seems to me you are reaching a little bit.  I will say the Niners run defense is the best I have ever seen.  But plays can be made against their secondary.  Eli is so locked in with all three of his receivers, I have no doubt the Giants will make enough plays.  The Niners won't be able to do much against a much improved and confident Giants defense.  If the refs don't make that ridiculous non-fumble call or the phantom roughing the passer on Rodgers, GB doesn't score a TD and finish with 6 points.  The game before that, they shutout the Atlanta Offense.  Both of these teams are head and shoulders above the Niners on offense.  Not to mention, the Niners just let up 30+ points on their home field.

    So let's relax a little bit.  You tell people to explain why yet the reasons you give for your pick are amateur at best. 

     

    Take the Giants and the points, bye the hook.  And take them Moneyline, best of luck   

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 10:53 AM ET #81

    Traveling 3 time zones on b2b road games.1-11 ats the team that has beaten the defending SB champ not being the SB.This is just my opinion which is part of handicapping. They have been on an emotional high  for a while gonna if they were come down this would be the spot
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    Traveling 3 time zones on b2b road games.1-11 ats the team that has beaten the defending SB champ not being the SB.This is just my opinion which is part of handicapping. They have been on an emotional high  for a while gonna if they were come down this would be the spot
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 10:58 AM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by billsneedhelp:

    Giants defense is not no that good especially against the pass. They are ranked at the bottom of the league: 29th overall and 27th against the pass.

    They have actually won their games mainly through the arm of eli and their passing attack.

    Season Stats Rank

    Total Yards 376.4         27
    Passing Yards 255.1    29
    Rushing Yards 121.2   19
    Points Allowed 25        25

    If you have been following whatsoever for the last month or so, you can throw those stats out.  The Giants D was in disarray for most of the season, but have gotten healthy and on the same page these last 6 weeks and are probably the most dangerous defense in the NFL right now.  Keep talking about their porous pass defense, it's inconsequential right now...look at the last 6 performances by the Giants defense and get back to me with your statistics..

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    Quote Originally Posted by billsneedhelp:

    Giants defense is not no that good especially against the pass. They are ranked at the bottom of the league: 29th overall and 27th against the pass.

    They have actually won their games mainly through the arm of eli and their passing attack.

    Season Stats Rank

    Total Yards 376.4         27
    Passing Yards 255.1    29
    Rushing Yards 121.2   19
    Points Allowed 25        25

    If you have been following whatsoever for the last month or so, you can throw those stats out.  The Giants D was in disarray for most of the season, but have gotten healthy and on the same page these last 6 weeks and are probably the most dangerous defense in the NFL right now.  Keep talking about their porous pass defense, it's inconsequential right now...look at the last 6 performances by the Giants defense and get back to me with your statistics..

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 11:02 AM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by EzzMoney:

    So are you taking the Ravens? FYI Brady is 6-1 against them ravens. I'll be taking the better Qb there too. Eli is the best 4th quarter QB in the league, no questions. I like the this Giants team but Im definitely not a homer. 
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    Have not thought much about that game yet but my early lean is on NE.   How the Ravens played against Texans has more to do with it, along with, NE having better QB than Ravens.  I also want to get updates on Ed Reed before making a decision as NE has two beast of TE's. 
    Okay you're not a homer.  I was simply pointing out that saying that NO ONE is better than Eli sounds like a homer.  I need to look this up but Alex Smith may have more fourth QB comebacks in 2011 and better red zone efficiency than Eli in 2011. 
     
    Albeit not by much, Alex did have better QB rating than Eli in their regular season game in November.

    I'll save you the time, Alex Smith DOES NOT have more fourth quarter comebacks or red zone efficiency than Eli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EzzMoney:

    So are you taking the Ravens? FYI Brady is 6-1 against them ravens. I'll be taking the better Qb there too. Eli is the best 4th quarter QB in the league, no questions. I like the this Giants team but Im definitely not a homer. 
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    Have not thought much about that game yet but my early lean is on NE.   How the Ravens played against Texans has more to do with it, along with, NE having better QB than Ravens.  I also want to get updates on Ed Reed before making a decision as NE has two beast of TE's. 
    Okay you're not a homer.  I was simply pointing out that saying that NO ONE is better than Eli sounds like a homer.  I need to look this up but Alex Smith may have more fourth QB comebacks in 2011 and better red zone efficiency than Eli in 2011. 
     
    Albeit not by much, Alex did have better QB rating than Eli in their regular season game in November.

    I'll save you the time, Alex Smith DOES NOT have more fourth quarter comebacks or red zone efficiency than Eli.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 11:07 AM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by Rossmiester:

    49ers win! Bet the house!

    Why?

    Teams that have defeated the defending Super Bowl Champions are just 1-10 ATS and winless sporting an 0-11 record in the next playoff round!

    = 49ers victory!

    Also, Vegas is favoring 49ers because they are at home. I believe the Giants are the only road team to win this post season, if I am correct. So look for the Pats to win and 49ers.

    Another huge factor is RAIN RAIN RAIN!! Look at the weather IT IS GOING TO RAIN.

    What does this mean? Rain means a running game and 49ers will shut down running game, 49ers win!

    Take Patriots -7.5, 49ers -2.5 BOOM!

    Yea taking the home team all the time is a great strategy.  Get a clue dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rossmiester:

    49ers win! Bet the house!

    Why?

    Teams that have defeated the defending Super Bowl Champions are just 1-10 ATS and winless sporting an 0-11 record in the next playoff round!

    = 49ers victory!

    Also, Vegas is favoring 49ers because they are at home. I believe the Giants are the only road team to win this post season, if I am correct. So look for the Pats to win and 49ers.

    Another huge factor is RAIN RAIN RAIN!! Look at the weather IT IS GOING TO RAIN.

    What does this mean? Rain means a running game and 49ers will shut down running game, 49ers win!

    Take Patriots -7.5, 49ers -2.5 BOOM!

    Yea taking the home team all the time is a great strategy.  Get a clue dude.

     
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    yeah i noticed when pierre thomas got knocked out it was a helmet to helmet hit.  smash mouth yeah... illegal play yup. penalty should have been called but none was
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20JJng66SqI
    .  as a giants fan I see this game as a fifty fifty percent chance of winning.  If we had to play the Saints in the dome we would of gotten smoked once again.  The Giants running game has been weak and if they can at least get the ground game going in any shape or form we have a chance.  Eli will throw the ball around all day just like Drew Brees did.  I think this will come down to the wire and turnovers will be a big factor.  I could say more but I don't have the time.
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    yeah i noticed when pierre thomas got knocked out it was a helmet to helmet hit.  smash mouth yeah... illegal play yup. penalty should have been called but none was
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20JJng66SqI
    .  as a giants fan I see this game as a fifty fifty percent chance of winning.  If we had to play the Saints in the dome we would of gotten smoked once again.  The Giants running game has been weak and if they can at least get the ground game going in any shape or form we have a chance.  Eli will throw the ball around all day just like Drew Brees did.  I think this will come down to the wire and turnovers will be a big factor.  I could say more but I don't have the time.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 1:32 PM ET #86

    oh yeah and i don't give a shit if any of you think it was a legal hit.
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 2:32 PM ET #87

    Appreciate your contribution Zoopdog,

    Rested team?  They will have had one more day of rest, let's not call this a factor.

    <<< Two days by my account (Sunday game for gmen + a travel day to SF) but I was also accounting for SF being home since 1/1 (20+ days).  Gmen essentially had last month at home before traveling to GB.  Which did help them.>>>

    Giants haven't had trouble playing away...what do they have 4 consecutive road playoff victories?

    <<< Let's not call that a factor either as three of those wins were in 2007; five years ago.>>>

    How can you say better coaching?  Is there a stat that proves this?  Tom Coughlin has a Superbowl ring on is finger, Harbaugh is the flavor of the month.

    <<< Okay, too small sample size to declare Harbaugh as an elite NFL coach.  We (Niner fans) have endured HORRIBLE head coaching for the last decade.  It is simply refreshing to see what Harbaugh has done so far>>>

    Enough offense?  What exactly does that mean?  If I was arguing for the Giants, I would use explosive offense, or consistent offense, or dangerous offense....NOT ENOUGH OFFENSE.

    <<<Enough offense means scoring more points than the opposition.  I cannot use the adjectives like explosive, consistent or dangerous for this Niner's offense yet>>>

    Seems to me you are reaching a little bit.  I will say the Niners run defense is the best I have ever seen.  But plays can be made against their secondary.  Eli is so locked in with all three of his receivers, I have no doubt the Giants will make enough plays.  The Niners won't be able to do much against a much improved and confident Giants defense.  If the refs don't make that ridiculous non-fumble call or the phantom roughing the passer on Rodgers, GB doesn't score a TD and finish with 6 points.  The game before that, they shutout the Atlanta Offense.  Both of these teams are head and shoulders above the Niners on offense.  Not to mention, the Niners just let up 30+ points on their home field.

    <<< Similarly, I have no doubts that Niners will make enough plays (in all three phases combined) to pull out a win.  Both teams have improved since their earlier matchup.  Gaints were full of confidence after defeating the Patriots when they came to SF.  NYG essentially led in every category, especially, 9+ minutes of advantage in Time of Possession.  Yet they lost by 7.  ATL is HISTORICALLY poor outdoors and GB played pathatic.  If SF plays as poorly than the Giants will roll but I doubt that Niners will squander this opportunity.  Yeap, Niners did give up 32 points to NO but SCORED 36.  What is more embarassing, giving up 32 points to Drew Brees and still winning the game, or giving up 23 points at home to Rex Grossman and losing a critical game?>>>

    Take the Giants and the points, bye the hook.  And take them Moneyline, best of luck  

    <<<Best of luck to you as well>>>

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    Appreciate your contribution Zoopdog,

    Rested team?  They will have had one more day of rest, let's not call this a factor.

    <<< Two days by my account (Sunday game for gmen + a travel day to SF) but I was also accounting for SF being home since 1/1 (20+ days).  Gmen essentially had last month at home before traveling to GB.  Which did help them.>>>

    Giants haven't had trouble playing away...what do they have 4 consecutive road playoff victories?

    <<< Let's not call that a factor either as three of those wins were in 2007; five years ago.>>>

    How can you say better coaching?  Is there a stat that proves this?  Tom Coughlin has a Superbowl ring on is finger, Harbaugh is the flavor of the month.

    <<< Okay, too small sample size to declare Harbaugh as an elite NFL coach.  We (Niner fans) have endured HORRIBLE head coaching for the last decade.  It is simply refreshing to see what Harbaugh has done so far>>>

    Enough offense?  What exactly does that mean?  If I was arguing for the Giants, I would use explosive offense, or consistent offense, or dangerous offense....NOT ENOUGH OFFENSE.

    <<<Enough offense means scoring more points than the opposition.  I cannot use the adjectives like explosive, consistent or dangerous for this Niner's offense yet>>>

    Seems to me you are reaching a little bit.  I will say the Niners run defense is the best I have ever seen.  But plays can be made against their secondary.  Eli is so locked in with all three of his receivers, I have no doubt the Giants will make enough plays.  The Niners won't be able to do much against a much improved and confident Giants defense.  If the refs don't make that ridiculous non-fumble call or the phantom roughing the passer on Rodgers, GB doesn't score a TD and finish with 6 points.  The game before that, they shutout the Atlanta Offense.  Both of these teams are head and shoulders above the Niners on offense.  Not to mention, the Niners just let up 30+ points on their home field.

    <<< Similarly, I have no doubts that Niners will make enough plays (in all three phases combined) to pull out a win.  Both teams have improved since their earlier matchup.  Gaints were full of confidence after defeating the Patriots when they came to SF.  NYG essentially led in every category, especially, 9+ minutes of advantage in Time of Possession.  Yet they lost by 7.  ATL is HISTORICALLY poor outdoors and GB played pathatic.  If SF plays as poorly than the Giants will roll but I doubt that Niners will squander this opportunity.  Yeap, Niners did give up 32 points to NO but SCORED 36.  What is more embarassing, giving up 32 points to Drew Brees and still winning the game, or giving up 23 points at home to Rex Grossman and losing a critical game?>>>

    Take the Giants and the points, bye the hook.  And take them Moneyline, best of luck  

    <<<Best of luck to you as well>>>

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 3:07 PM ET #88

    think how can the NEW YORK be the under dog people think?
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 3:11 PM ET #89

    Can Anyone Tell me on January 14, 2011 when New England vs Denver actually kicked off!! I have a better that sent in his wager at 828, and I took it because San Fran Game wasn't over yet! Am I not correct?  
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    Can Anyone Tell me on January 14, 2011 when New England vs Denver actually kicked off!! I have a better that sent in his wager at 828, and I took it because San Fran Game wasn't over yet! Am I not correct?  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 3:24 PM ET #90

    ZoopDog7 ... bet the house on the Giants, please... I will be satisfied knowing someone lost a lot of money, even though I have no clue of who you are.. lol
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    ZoopDog7 ... bet the house on the Giants, please... I will be satisfied knowing someone lost a lot of money, even though I have no clue of who you are.. lol
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 5:00 PM ET #91

    The GMEN is that is Valid enough
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 5:24 PM ET #92

    This is the money making pick of the YEAR . .

    The Giants Will Win Straight up and down

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    This is the money making pick of the YEAR . .

    The Giants Will Win Straight up and down

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 5:40 PM ET #93

    Quote Originally Posted by theeye13:

    Giants win. Reasons why..Last game no Bradshaw, no Osi, Boley hurt midway and the game changed. The Giants are red hot and the Niners great D beat exactly who during their last 8 games? Look at the games played and you will see they beat no one with an OFFense that is close to the Giants. The Giants play very well on the road, the Saints are awful. The Giants will win this game fairly easily...and face the Pats in the SuperBowl. The reason the Niners are favored is because they are home...the line will get bet down to 1.....Wait and see.....Oh and Blackburn wasn't even with the team in the first game....
    Osi played, but Tuck didn't.
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    Giants win. Reasons why..Last game no Bradshaw, no Osi, Boley hurt midway and the game changed. The Giants are red hot and the Niners great D beat exactly who during their last 8 games? Look at the games played and you will see they beat no one with an OFFense that is close to the Giants. The Giants play very well on the road, the Saints are awful. The Giants will win this game fairly easily...and face the Pats in the SuperBowl. The reason the Niners are favored is because they are home...the line will get bet down to 1.....Wait and see.....Oh and Blackburn wasn't even with the team in the first game....
    Osi played, but Tuck didn't.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 5:56 PM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by EzzMoney:

    Lets be honest, las vegas served up a platter hype on sunday, giving the niners points at home, they wanted action and america ate it up buffet style. I mean lets take a look, the saints beat the falcons, panthers and lions AT HOME in their previous three match ups. the niners plus rest & points was a no brainer. manning is on fire, in his last three games hes completing 70%, averaging 315+yards and is 9-1 TD-INT with a passer rating of 126.8. Eli picked apart green bay in the most hostile environment in the NFC in below zero weather. When you knock off the defending champs in their own damn house, then travel to sunny california with 3 points and a superbowl on their resume. its a no brainer. NY+

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    No brainer that Vegas is in money making business.  Thus, the lines are set accordingly.  If you were in such business (or in any business) who would you cater to; a population of 8+ million or a population of under 1 million?  Of course, you will cater to the larger population.  That is what is going on here IMO. 

    NO was HOT coming in to SF.=  Now, Ny is  HOT as the beat GB.  The money is pouring in on NYG and this could become a pick'em game come game time.  

    Vegas is serving you another platter hype (NY convinceingly beat WORLD CHAMPION at their house by 17) by luring 8+ million people to take the NYG as underdog.



    I'm pretty sure the lines are set at what the public thinks but also at what the computers spit out. To say SF is an easy pick because Vegas is tarping people is absolutely hilarious. This game is a coinflip with a small edge going to the GIANTS. Therefore the money line or pts is a good EV pick I believe.

    SF got an easy redzone turnover plus 4 other gifts. I mean 5 turnovers in a game?? Seriously? That is a fucking lot. If Alex Smith misses that pass at the end of the game, we go to OT and Saints might win (with the TOs). Niners = Overrated. The dogs got lucky at home.
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    Lets be honest, las vegas served up a platter hype on sunday, giving the niners points at home, they wanted action and america ate it up buffet style. I mean lets take a look, the saints beat the falcons, panthers and lions AT HOME in their previous three match ups. the niners plus rest & points was a no brainer. manning is on fire, in his last three games hes completing 70%, averaging 315+yards and is 9-1 TD-INT with a passer rating of 126.8. Eli picked apart green bay in the most hostile environment in the NFC in below zero weather. When you knock off the defending champs in their own damn house, then travel to sunny california with 3 points and a superbowl on their resume. its a no brainer. NY+

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    No brainer that Vegas is in money making business.  Thus, the lines are set accordingly.  If you were in such business (or in any business) who would you cater to; a population of 8+ million or a population of under 1 million?  Of course, you will cater to the larger population.  That is what is going on here IMO. 

    NO was HOT coming in to SF.=  Now, Ny is  HOT as the beat GB.  The money is pouring in on NYG and this could become a pick'em game come game time.  

    Vegas is serving you another platter hype (NY convinceingly beat WORLD CHAMPION at their house by 17) by luring 8+ million people to take the NYG as underdog.



    I'm pretty sure the lines are set at what the public thinks but also at what the computers spit out. To say SF is an easy pick because Vegas is tarping people is absolutely hilarious. This game is a coinflip with a small edge going to the GIANTS. Therefore the money line or pts is a good EV pick I believe.

    SF got an easy redzone turnover plus 4 other gifts. I mean 5 turnovers in a game?? Seriously? That is a fucking lot. If Alex Smith misses that pass at the end of the game, we go to OT and Saints might win (with the TOs). Niners = Overrated. The dogs got lucky at home.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 6:01 PM ET #95

    Just random trash talking there lol
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 6:22 PM ET #96

    NYGMEN ML +115 I fucking love this bet and cant fucking wait to hear all the goddamn phony whiner fans clogging up the fucking airwaves bithching about this loss!  Niners and their fans are all classless fucks!  Go Seahawks and on Sunday Go Giants!!
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    NYGMEN ML +115 I fucking love this bet and cant fucking wait to hear all the goddamn phony whiner fans clogging up the fucking airwaves bithching about this loss!  Niners and their fans are all classless fucks!  Go Seahawks and on Sunday Go Giants!!
     
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    I'm pretty sure the lines are set at what the public thinks but also at what the computers spit out. To say SF is an easy pick because Vegas is tarping people is absolutely hilarious. This game is a coinflip with a small edge going to the GIANTS. Therefore the money line or pts is a good EV pick I believe.

    <<<Public perception plays a big role in setting up lines.  That has been stated by various sports books.  Vegas certainly can  mine all of the available data in any which way.  I was simply responding that good business would be to consider perception of  8+ million people.  It does not say the SF is an easy pick.  This game will be a hard fought game where I think SF has the edge.>>>


    SF got an easy redzone turnover plus 4 other gifts. I mean 5 turnovers in a game?? Seriously? That is a fucking lot. If Alex Smith misses that pass at the end of the game, we go to OT and Saints might win (with the TOs). Niners = Overrated. The dogs got lucky at home.

    <<< If Dallas does not implode, Gmen dont even make the playoffs; if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle....IMO, there was nothing easy/lucky about SF win over NO.  It was a hard fought game, in doubt, until the end.  Niners outplayed the Saints in all three phases.  Taking that away from them is simply not being objective.>>>

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    I'm pretty sure the lines are set at what the public thinks but also at what the computers spit out. To say SF is an easy pick because Vegas is tarping people is absolutely hilarious. This game is a coinflip with a small edge going to the GIANTS. Therefore the money line or pts is a good EV pick I believe.

    <<<Public perception plays a big role in setting up lines.  That has been stated by various sports books.  Vegas certainly can  mine all of the available data in any which way.  I was simply responding that good business would be to consider perception of  8+ million people.  It does not say the SF is an easy pick.  This game will be a hard fought game where I think SF has the edge.>>>


    SF got an easy redzone turnover plus 4 other gifts. I mean 5 turnovers in a game?? Seriously? That is a fucking lot. If Alex Smith misses that pass at the end of the game, we go to OT and Saints might win (with the TOs). Niners = Overrated. The dogs got lucky at home.

    <<< If Dallas does not implode, Gmen dont even make the playoffs; if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle....IMO, there was nothing easy/lucky about SF win over NO.  It was a hard fought game, in doubt, until the end.  Niners outplayed the Saints in all three phases.  Taking that away from them is simply not being objective.>>>

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 6:50 PM ET #98

    Niners = Overrated. The dogs got lucky at home.
    Niners = Overrated. The dogs got lucky at home.

    Niners = Overrated. The dogs got lucky at home.}}

    YEP   all those breaks and still took em to the last 9 secs tp pull it out

    Nice team ...won with them straight up too ....but it ends here


     

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    YEP   all those breaks and still took em to the last 9 secs tp pull it out

    Nice team ...won with them straight up too ....but it ends here


     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2012 - 6:55 PM ET #99

    The Giants + Revenge - God help any team facing them.
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2012 - 1:52 PM ET #100

    Alex Smith just had the game of his life - I don't like the odds of him playing that well in consecutive weeks.

    The Giants Defense is NOT the Saints defense.  Yes, SF scored 36 points, but they will be lucky if they score half that many this Sunday.

    With the way the Giants have been playing on all three phases, I don't know how you can take the Niners with any confidence.

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    Alex Smith just had the game of his life - I don't like the odds of him playing that well in consecutive weeks.

    The Giants Defense is NOT the Saints defense.  Yes, SF scored 36 points, but they will be lucky if they score half that many this Sunday.

    With the way the Giants have been playing on all three phases, I don't know how you can take the Niners with any confidence.

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