Is Peyton Manning really Jesus Christ?

     He must be, because for the second year in a row, he didn't put up the best numbers, and he still walked away with all the rewards.  First team All-Pro, first team Pro-Bowl, and MVP.

            Comp%      Yds      Yds/Att      TD      Int       Rating

Brees     70.6          4388       8.5          34       11       109.6

Favre     65.2           4202       7.9          33       7         107.2

Rivers    65.2           4254       8.8          28       9          104.4

Manning68.8            4500      7.9           33       16        99.9

All-Pro Votes...

Manning - 36.5... Brees - 12.5... Rivers... 1.

What does Brees have to do?  I know Manning is good.  Hell he's great.  First round ballot for sure even he retired now.  But there are other good QB's in the league, and some are putting up better numbers.  Why is everyone is this "Manning is Christ" coma? 

And before I get comments like "the Colts couldn't run the ball so it was more difficult for Manning", keep in mind that results should win awards.  Not excuses.  If we can make excuses, then let's give the award to Flacco.  Look what he has to work with (nothing), and he took his team to the playoffs.  If we make excuses like this, where does it end?  The award should go to the player that had the most impressive year.  Manning did not.  Yet he had a banner year with awards.  Why?

The seven come from wins should not have any bearing either.  Brees went 13-2 as a starter.  Winning is not more impressive if you fall behind first.  In the loss to Tampa, Brees went 32 of 37 and threw no picks.  Besides, wins shouldn't even play a role in the All-Pro and Pro-Bowl voting.  It doesn't for RB's, WR's, and everyone else.  It shouldn't for QB's.  It's a team sport.  If a guy throws for 4500 yds, 36 TD's, and 14 int's and goes 9-7 and his numbers dwarf all other QB's, he should get 1st team All-Pro and Pro-Bowl.  My point:  Wins really do not matter.  Or atleast they shouldn't. 

Brees did lose 6 fumbles and Manning 0.  But Brees did post better numbers.  Favre had a better year and threw 11 less int's.  To be fair, he averaged about 19 less yds passing per game than Manning.  Favre didn't get one All-Pro vote and had, arguably, the best season of any QB this year.  Manning got 36.5 votes.

Let's look at 2008...

                 Comp%    Yds     Yds/Att      TD      Int     Rating

Rivers          65.3        4009     8.4            34     11      105.5

Brees          65.0         5069    8.0            34      17      96.2

Manning       66.8        4002     7.2           27       12     95.0

Rivers had a phenominal year and in all areas was better than Manning.  Rivers didn't even go to the Pro Bowl as an alternate!  Brees nearly broke the all time record for passing yds in a season.  The All-Pro voting results?

Manning 28 votes, Brees 10, Rivers 9, Pennington 2, Warner 1.

Manning also received the MVP vote.  The voting went as follows...

Peyton Manning: 32
Chad Pennington: 4
Michael Turner: 4
Philip Rivers: 2
Chris Johnson: 1
Kurt Warner: 1

You see a trend here?  I can understand Manning winning some of the awards, but all of them?  All the time?  By landslides?  And all the while not putting up better numbers than everyone else?  Am I in the Twilight Zone here? 

I know the guy makes funny commercials, but isn't it time that these other guys get some recognition for posting better numbers than "the greatest person to ever walk the earth."  Because I'm beginning to think that's what everyone believes he is.  Christ himself.

 

 

Look at the weapons all those guys have.

Manning has Wayne and Clark which are studs, but Garcon?  Addai?  Average. 

MN has Peterson, Harvin, Rice, Schianco, Taylor, etc.

NO has Bush, Henderson, Colston, Shockey, etc.

Rivers has Gates, LT, Sproles, Jackson, etc.

The other teams are WAY deeper in the skilled position on offense IMO.  Give me Manning all day long. 

It's not based 100% on stats you idiot! What do you not understand about that. It's MOST VALUABLE TO YOUR TEAM, I know your pea sized brain can't handle all that info. The guy with the best stats won offensive player of the year award, hence why Chris Johnson won because he had the best stats. Fucking dumb ass.

i dont mind manning getting the mvp.. he could win it every year if they want to give it to him but brees should get more consideration because he turns guys off the street into household names just like peyton

Its all about perception and media involvement.

  The media is largely at fault.  Everything they say, people tend to follow blindly.

if the whole league was drafted every year and you were drafting for just one year (no age considerations).  who do you pick first?

peyton all day

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

SERB89.....LOL....I do like your style dude!.....lol

if he were really jc, he'd do a lot better in the post-season.

As a Steeler fan how can you leave out Big ben in your stats breakdown?? The numbers are comparable..It is a shame Ben didn't make it to the Pro Bowl..

66.6 Completion %

TD 26

INT 11

QB Raiting 100.5

I said basically the same thing in another thread when he first won the award.  I don't know which of the four qb's that had outstanding years I would pick, but he definitely should not have won in a landslide.  The 16 picks he threw, would probably have my vote going elsewhere.

ben or peyton? even the typical delusional pittsburg homer cant say ben

You guys are silly, the reason he won last year is because he went on a 12 game winning streak. If your team is not even in the post season (like my saints) in 2008, more than likely you will not receive this award. Same thing applies to Chris Johnson, team did not do enough

Not if you can make him move those Feet

happy much?

11 Sons of Jesus Christ himself couldn't stop Peyton Manning.

Luckily the Jets have 10 sons, and God himself at CB...

Peyton Manning deserves the award evey year his team gets to the playoffs I can tell you that....And the reason is the fact that without him under center, this Colts team would be lucky to be at .500 every season..He singly handidly wins games and is the sole reason the Colts have been as good as they are..Indy would be mediocre at best without Manning, and not one person can argue that point..

Who would win if God lined up at WR opposite Revis????

Trick question - Revis is God, therefore he could not play offense and defense at the same time..........or could he???

In '04 Manning had a passer rating of 121.1. He had Marvin Harrison in his prime, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark. James ran for 1,548 yards! A phenominal team around him. Culpepper had a rating of 110 (not many QB's have posted a rating that high for a season) and threw 39 TD's. A phenominal year as well. And all he really had was Randy Moss. And he only caught 49 passes. Minnesota's leading rusher was Onterrio Smith with 544 yards! He didn't have near the amount of weapons that Manning had, yet he had an unbelievable year. A better year than most QB's would have had in his position, if not all. Did he get 1st team All-Pro? No, Manning did. Did he get NFL MVP? No, Manning did. Did he get Offensive Player of the Year? No, Manning did. Manning had the better team (by lightyears) and all the advantages. So why did he get all the rewards?
Because he put up the better numbers.
That's the way it should have went down. It's not Manning's fault or concern that Culpepper didn't have the weapons. You can't take away or belittle what Manning did.
Yet we have other QB's posting better performances than Manning in the last two years. But Manning is still reaping ALL the awards. You see the problem here?

 

 

 

I agree but everybody would just call me a homer then.

But that shouldn't get him the majority of the 1st team All-Pro and Pro-Bowl votes when other players are simply having better years.  They're putting up better numbers, and yet he is getting ALL the votes ALL the time.  Besides that, every good quarterback in the league makes their team a contender.  And without them, their teams would be average.  Take Ben away.  Take Brees away.  Take Rivers away and Brady.  Those teams simply wouldn't be as good.  Put average QB's in their place and they become average teams.  8-8 teams.