@undermysac Quote Originally Posted by undermysac: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @undermysac Wind should not be a factor so Caleb will not have that to deal with. One way to look at it is would you rather have GB-5 or CHI +7 Honestly, I'd take both those lines and hope for the best Exactly where I am
If only there was a world where these 2 lines existed...
Here's a clip of the Bears last play of the game. Kmet was open early, Caleb was late...
@undermysac Quote Originally Posted by undermysac: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @undermysac Wind should not be a factor so Caleb will not have that to deal with. One way to look at it is would you rather have GB-5 or CHI +7 Honestly, I'd take both those lines and hope for the best Exactly where I am
If only there was a world where these 2 lines existed...
Here's a clip of the Bears last play of the game. Kmet was open early, Caleb was late...
I can't ignore how good Jordan Love is. You literally can't make any mistakes against him, he will find the open guy every time. The only way to slow him down, or stop him, is a true pass rush from the front 4.
You really can't blitz him, he'll throw to the void.
What team in the NFL right now has a pure pass rush from their d line that can get to him?
*on a side note
I go to Wisconsin frequently. My brother lives up there, I talk to his wife's family and friends a ton, and have a lot of fishing pals there.
With that said, Packers fans have to stop complaining whenever the Packers lose a game, or go through a rough stretch. You don't know how good you have it compared to other teams.
I hear it every year, they'll lose one game and EVERYONE starts calling for LaFleur's head.
Just stop it. You have a great team, coach, and QB. The grass is not greener on the other side, trust me. There are about 27 to 28 other teams in much worse shape than you guys.
See you in Chicago in 2 weeks
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I can't ignore how good Jordan Love is. You literally can't make any mistakes against him, he will find the open guy every time. The only way to slow him down, or stop him, is a true pass rush from the front 4.
You really can't blitz him, he'll throw to the void.
What team in the NFL right now has a pure pass rush from their d line that can get to him?
*on a side note
I go to Wisconsin frequently. My brother lives up there, I talk to his wife's family and friends a ton, and have a lot of fishing pals there.
With that said, Packers fans have to stop complaining whenever the Packers lose a game, or go through a rough stretch. You don't know how good you have it compared to other teams.
I hear it every year, they'll lose one game and EVERYONE starts calling for LaFleur's head.
Just stop it. You have a great team, coach, and QB. The grass is not greener on the other side, trust me. There are about 27 to 28 other teams in much worse shape than you guys.
Here's a clip of the Bears last play of the game. Kmet was open early, Caleb was late...
I'm on your side Sac but your if I coulda, woulda, shoulda take doesn't cut it as it was once again devastating as a Bear fan to see that ending against once again Green Bay that solidifies the inevitable in which is if you can't beat your nemesis in your own division especially when vying for the division you expose yourself to a most likely one and done scenario entering the playoffs.
I see development and much more discipline this year apposed to last year with Caleb but he's not there yet.... he's just not there yet.
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@undermysac
Here's a clip of the Bears last play of the game. Kmet was open early, Caleb was late...
I'm on your side Sac but your if I coulda, woulda, shoulda take doesn't cut it as it was once again devastating as a Bear fan to see that ending against once again Green Bay that solidifies the inevitable in which is if you can't beat your nemesis in your own division especially when vying for the division you expose yourself to a most likely one and done scenario entering the playoffs.
I see development and much more discipline this year apposed to last year with Caleb but he's not there yet.... he's just not there yet.
Quote Originally Posted by buckubad: they're begging for Chicago money obviously. They could have made it 4.5 and still got it imo. From whom? The public is already overwhelmingly on Chicago. At the market maker books they opened it at +5 Sunday night and everyone I know took Green Bay. I bet them at -5 and -5.5. It went very quickly to +6.5 and even hit +7 before coming back down to +6.5. This seems to be the correct number per the market right now.
I think this was a good game where you should grab an early number if you think it is great value. Especially, if you think it should move around and maybe through a key number.
This is usually seen more with totals in the NFL. You will see totals early that you really will see a chance to move around key numbers. It is a little rarer to see it with the spread numbers.
As, I mentioned I was on the this line as soon as it came out. It was an ideal situation where the value also switched to me. So, at the end I was able to have both numbers.
Ideally, a move to +7.5 would have been perfect of course.
But with totals you will see far better CLV if you get the numbers early. But you still can see this with spreads in some situations.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
Quote Originally Posted by buckubad: they're begging for Chicago money obviously. They could have made it 4.5 and still got it imo. From whom? The public is already overwhelmingly on Chicago. At the market maker books they opened it at +5 Sunday night and everyone I know took Green Bay. I bet them at -5 and -5.5. It went very quickly to +6.5 and even hit +7 before coming back down to +6.5. This seems to be the correct number per the market right now.
I think this was a good game where you should grab an early number if you think it is great value. Especially, if you think it should move around and maybe through a key number.
This is usually seen more with totals in the NFL. You will see totals early that you really will see a chance to move around key numbers. It is a little rarer to see it with the spread numbers.
As, I mentioned I was on the this line as soon as it came out. It was an ideal situation where the value also switched to me. So, at the end I was able to have both numbers.
Ideally, a move to +7.5 would have been perfect of course.
But with totals you will see far better CLV if you get the numbers early. But you still can see this with spreads in some situations.
Completely agree. It's unreal how bad the Packers have owned the Bears. My buddy sent me a weird meme, but it is 100% true.
"There are kids today in 1st grade that have only seen the Bears beat the Packers one time in their entire lives, with parents who weren't alive yet the last time the Bears won a SB"
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@justliketoplay
Completely agree. It's unreal how bad the Packers have owned the Bears. My buddy sent me a weird meme, but it is 100% true.
"There are kids today in 1st grade that have only seen the Bears beat the Packers one time in their entire lives, with parents who weren't alive yet the last time the Bears won a SB"
Yep two teenage sons of mine that unfortunately had to witness what I explained to them before the game started that this is the game that defines the Bears season and not beating the Superbowl champs last week with Philadelphia but beating a team that has had our number consistently and has stopped us from winning our division for years and the high hopes that we were going to get that done yesterday as we were in it till the end was crushing yet once again for me but now my sons are dragged into this rivalry that we just can't seem to hurdle over and put it past us as it continues to linger.
Yes will see them again in two weeks and we will be watching once again while keeping our fingers crossed....as well as our toes.
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@undermysac
Yep two teenage sons of mine that unfortunately had to witness what I explained to them before the game started that this is the game that defines the Bears season and not beating the Superbowl champs last week with Philadelphia but beating a team that has had our number consistently and has stopped us from winning our division for years and the high hopes that we were going to get that done yesterday as we were in it till the end was crushing yet once again for me but now my sons are dragged into this rivalry that we just can't seem to hurdle over and put it past us as it continues to linger.
Yes will see them again in two weeks and we will be watching once again while keeping our fingers crossed....as well as our toes.
If you get bored I can send you a YT clip where a guy did a decent breakdown before the game. I do not always agree with him but he has some great insights. I think his part on that game is about 10 minutes.
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@undermysac
If you get bored I can send you a YT clip where a guy did a decent breakdown before the game. I do not always agree with him but he has some great insights. I think his part on that game is about 10 minutes.
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @undermysac Quote Originally Posted by undermysac: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @undermysac Wind should not be a factor so Caleb will not have that to deal with. One way to look at it is would you rather have GB-5 or CHI +7 Honestly, I'd take both those lines and hope for the best Exactly where I am If only there was a world where these 2 lines existed... Here's a clip of the Bears last play of the game. Kmet was open early, Caleb was late... https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR-6SLhj2Az/?igsh=Ymg5bWx3eHIwMnph
Yea i saw that. I saw many times in this game where there were guys open underneath or check down and Caleb wont throw and instead starts spinning around and playing hero ball. He needs to start just hitting the open guy. When the first read isn't open he immediately starts scrambling for downfield play instead of the check down. There's even times where he forces a pass rather than taking a free run for the first down. On the last play of the game even he tried to force the TD throw instead of running for first down, basically same exact play as we saw with OSU the other night.
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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @undermysac Quote Originally Posted by undermysac: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: @undermysac Wind should not be a factor so Caleb will not have that to deal with. One way to look at it is would you rather have GB-5 or CHI +7 Honestly, I'd take both those lines and hope for the best Exactly where I am If only there was a world where these 2 lines existed... Here's a clip of the Bears last play of the game. Kmet was open early, Caleb was late... https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR-6SLhj2Az/?igsh=Ymg5bWx3eHIwMnph
Yea i saw that. I saw many times in this game where there were guys open underneath or check down and Caleb wont throw and instead starts spinning around and playing hero ball. He needs to start just hitting the open guy. When the first read isn't open he immediately starts scrambling for downfield play instead of the check down. There's even times where he forces a pass rather than taking a free run for the first down. On the last play of the game even he tried to force the TD throw instead of running for first down, basically same exact play as we saw with OSU the other night.
Yea i saw that. I saw many times in this game where there were guys open underneath or check down and Caleb wont throw and instead starts spinning around and playing hero ball. He needs to start just hitting the open guy. When the first read isn't open he immediately starts scrambling for downfield play instead of the check down. There's even times where he forces a pass rather than taking a free run for the first down. On the last play of the game even he tried to force the TD throw instead of running for first down, basically same exact play as we saw withOSU the other night.
This is exactly what the fans saw and left in the moment all screaming at the television as to why caleb didn't see it because yes! This was a game to win and his irrational and noticable decisions throughout the game made the team lose and possibly lose the division as well.
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@Yanasaur
Yea i saw that. I saw many times in this game where there were guys open underneath or check down and Caleb wont throw and instead starts spinning around and playing hero ball. He needs to start just hitting the open guy. When the first read isn't open he immediately starts scrambling for downfield play instead of the check down. There's even times where he forces a pass rather than taking a free run for the first down. On the last play of the game even he tried to force the TD throw instead of running for first down, basically same exact play as we saw withOSU the other night.
This is exactly what the fans saw and left in the moment all screaming at the television as to why caleb didn't see it because yes! This was a game to win and his irrational and noticable decisions throughout the game made the team lose and possibly lose the division as well.
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