Info regarding the Bears

That's a great number. My book has 24.5 and that's too much for me

This is good stuff, and interesting to know if Rodgers plays it will be out of shotgun. In that case I think an even better bet would be Roman Wilson o22.5 rec yds. As the season has progressed he's been a more utilized option for Rodgers and he's a guy he really liked coming out of camp. The problem has just been he hasn't been on the field a ton with all the 3 TE stuff they've been doing. But if they are going to run the offense out of shotgun and 3 WR Wilson is very much in play

Now let's look at Pts per Plays Margin 

Steelers 5th .105

Bears 21st (-.052)

Now let's take the past 3 games which obviously does not include the 1st 2 games.

Steelers .139

Bears .005

Bears at home .105.......road (-.159)

Big weakness is on the road

Steelers at home .111 .....road .100

Bears only slightly  better at home then Steelers  are on the road.

All the info points to Steelers this game.

Steelers have consistently been in the top 5 this season while Bears are no-where near top 5 even if we throw out those 1st 2 games.

Bears win to many close 1 score games.

I saw on you tube Bears are the 2cd worst DVOA 7-3 team.

Granted those 1st 2 games contributed to that.

The big game was week 2 beat-down by Lions 52-21 but considering all the weak opps the Bears beat in very close games I don't think playing a strong opp on the road is a game we can just throwout.

Had Bears won by bigger scores VS weak opps showing marked improvement  then I could agree with to throw Lions game as early in the season. 

Pts per plays is a great meterics of all-around play and scoring efficiency with those plays.

The teams benefit the most are those making big plays as it takes fewer plays to score so if Bears are making big plays they are not turning those big plays into scoring efficiency as a team.

im not bertting on any qb who has broken wrist recaal wentz in with shoulder face in pain all gamethey got sluugtered 

one  user miles long write up this tem that this team that but others went other way 

i said no bet vikes home after b 2 b interational gameswents  had no plying time

besars caleb williams is helthy plus he can run it in

@tjones1270

@theclaw

 I agree with all your #'s. I'm a huge Bears fan and have been saying to fade them more often than not, they have been winning in miraculous fashion all year.

In this particular matchup though, the injury dynamics are going to be important imo. Whether it's Rodgers or Rudolph at QB #1. We know the LB's are out.

I haven't even once mentioned the Bears offense vs Pitt's D. From what I'm seeing on all avenues, the Bears have no excuses. They should move the ball and score plenty imo. I'll post some matchup stuff in a while.

Here's something I found interesting, you guys should watch the utube video I posted in post #13. It's the real deal what they are talking about.

Here are the top 6 teams who use shotgun the least, and I'll post how many ppg they score in parenthesis, followed by rank in ppg scored:

Rams 39% (27.2) #6

Seahawks 43.5% (29.4) #3

Lions 47.6% (29.2) #4

Bears 51% (25.8) #8

Bills 51.9% (28.3) #5

Patriots 52.1% (26.5) #7

Is it a coincidence that these 6 teams are all in the top 10 of scoring in the nfl, and hike from under center more than anyone else?

Top 6 teams who use shotgun the most:

Colts 94.1% (32.1) #1

Falcons 93.6% (19.5) #27

Bengals 84.0% (22.8) #18

Saints 79.8% (15.5) #30

Giants 78.8% (21.5) #23

Eagles 76.3% (23.4) #16

The Jets, Dolphins and Titans come in 7, 8 and 9th place. 25th, 26th and 32nd in scoring. 

The Colts are not so much an anomaly. Their shotgun is more of a pistol formation, lots of rpo and lots of Jonathan Taylor. That Shane Steichen system is creative. We saw how far it took Jalen Hurts and the Eagles in 2022.

The Colts run 44.26% of the time, 14th in the league. Pretty balanced offense.

What's interesting is that the Falcons are the only other team who use shotgun over 90% of the time. They have arguably the 2nd best RB(Bijon Robinson) just behind Jonathan Taylor, but don't come close to scoring like the Colts do.

The Falcons run 44.03% of the time, 15th in the league. Similar to the Colts.

The difference has to be o line and qb play.

I agree  the injuries could be key.........but the more I look into this game the more it comes up Steelers.

The 5 teams Bears beat by 1 score, Bengals, Raiders, Gmen, wàsh, Vikings.

No team with winning record.

Teams they beat by more then 1 score, Dallas best win by 17 and Saints by 12 which was the least dominate score any team beat the Saints by at home with Saints on the road except Panthers who are frauds as well. 

Here's the real kicker.......

Defensive pts per plays.....

Let's look at Bears opps they beat on defense .....

32cd Bengals .506

32st Boys .455

28th Wash .439

26th Gmen .427

21st Saints .405

20th Raiders .400

No team cracked into better then 20th except Vikings who still were only 13th

Now 7 games VS this caliber defense so if Bears are making big plays and doing so well wouldn't we expect then to be high ranked VS these defenses ?

Well they are 12th .398

But Steelers are 7th .443

And to make things much worse quess who has the 30th ranked defense ?

Yep Bears .

Steelers rank 10th so Steelers in the top 10 on both offense  and defense while Bears don't Crack the top 10 in either and are bottom feeders on defense yet they have the better record.

Dont make sense Bears have better record.

And this is a coach Tomlin  spot as a dog.

Boys 31st

National prognosticators:

39 are picking the Bears to win

9 are on the Steelers 

What in the he'll did you just say?

Yeesh...

I'm seeing 56% of the tickets on the Bears, and 49% of the cash 

Good shit!

@theclaw

 Real good shit 

Good stuff

Interesting 

Vsin had an interview with the westgate book manager. They said they had even action and when they pushed him to answer why the spread was held at 2.5 (inferring teasers crossing the zero) he avoided the question. 

This line should’ve blew up and moved to a pick. I’m taking Jalen warren over receiving with this info. The te props are too volatile. 

Watch the lines and inform yourself boys. For me it’s like I told my buddy when he said his whack job ex was on the pill, “it’s a trap!”  

If they have even action, why should the line move?

Gonna post some shit running across espn right now, it's pertinent to the shotgun conversation. 

Caleb Williams in 2024 percent of snaps from under center 29%. In 2025 49%.

Play action total qbr in 2024 was 28. In 2025 he's at 80.

Qbr rank in 2024 30th, in 2025 3rd.

Enjoy the games

A-a-ron is out.  Hello Mason Rudolph

Yup, gonna wait it out

Betting on the Over.

046(-113) *1.13/1.00

Good Luck