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    I can't believe some of you guys wanna put money on Romo on the road

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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2010 - 10:30 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by RedDog54:

    New England was 8-0 at home this year.

    Very good point red dog.  And how were the Pats beat?  The Ravens ran the ball down their throats and played lights out defense.  Hmm… now who else has a great running game and a defense that is playing lights out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedDog54:

    New England was 8-0 at home this year.

    Very good point red dog.  And how were the Pats beat?  The Ravens ran the ball down their throats and played lights out defense.  Hmm… now who else has a great running game and a defense that is playing lights out?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2010 - 10:35 PM ET #27

    Shit...I had Dallas in that game and that pick was huge.  Dallas finally took the lead and were driving the ball well and then that.

    That said, I still lean Dallas.
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    Shit...I had Dallas in that game and that pick was huge.  Dallas finally took the lead and were driving the ball well and then that.

    That said, I still lean Dallas.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2010 - 10:35 PM ET #28

    IMHO, if the Vikings get in their face and score early and often, I do believe that pressure will lead Romo to melt. Be objective Mr. SS and take a look at many games where Romo succumbed to the pressure/spotlight.

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    IMHO, if the Vikings get in their face and score early and often, I do believe that pressure will lead Romo to melt. Be objective Mr. SS and take a look at many games where Romo succumbed to the pressure/spotlight.

    Happy Hunting ( never say good luck, it jinx's
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2010 - 10:44 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    I think the point is there are not many differences betwen these two teams.  That being said, I will go with the QB who has been better in big games, the home team with an electric crowd, and the team with the better place kicker. 

     

    Yea that worked well in the Ravens/Pats game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    I think the point is there are not many differences betwen these two teams.  That being said, I will go with the QB who has been better in big games, the home team with an electric crowd, and the team with the better place kicker. 

     

    Yea that worked well in the Ravens/Pats game.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2010 - 10:53 PM ET #30

    To add fuel to the fire...
    From TGS:

    Road underdogs have been getting the money consistently in Division Round games since 2003, covering 16 of 24 chances. Over the past three seasons, that success has been even more pronounced, with road dogs 10-2 vs. the number. And twice since 2003, the visiting underdog teams have covered all four Division Round games. Since 1990, when the playoffs expanded from 10 teams to 12, all Division Round hosts have been off a “bye” and a week of rest. And almost all of the “powerhouse” NFL teams in recent memory are from that first-round “bye” group, including 49 of the last 62 Super Bowl participants since ’78 (when the first-round “bye” was introduced). But the change theme reflected in the recent
    success of Division Round road dogs has made some wonder if that first-round bye” is really worth it. In each of the past four seasons, a top seed in either the NFC (the Giants, losing 23-11 at home to the Eagles a year ago, and Dallas, defeated by the visiting Giants 21-17 two years ago) or AFC (San Diego bowing to New England, 24-21, in 2006 and Indianapolis falling to Pittsburgh, 21-18, in 2005) have bitten the dust after a “bye” week. Three of the past four Super Bowl
    winners (2005 Pittsburgh, 2006 Indy, and the 2007 Giants) each participated from the outset in the playoffs, beginning their postseason adventures in the wildcard round.

    CATEGORY RESULT
    Favorites vs. line ............................ 68-64-3 (1 pick)
    Favorites straight up ............................. 94-41
    Favored by 0-3 points ............................ 7-13-1
    Favored by 3½-6½ points ..................... 24-22-1
    Favored by 7-9½ points ......................... 24-18
    Favored by 10-13½ points ...................... 10-8
    Favored by 14 points or more ............... 3-3-1
    Home teams straight up ........................ 96-40
    Home teams vs. spread ........................ 70-63-3
    Home favorites vs. spread ................... 66-61-3
    Home underdogs vs. spread .................. 3-2
    Home picks vs. spread ............................ 1-0
    Over/under (since 1986) ........................ 48-44
    MARGINS OF VICTORY
    1-3 points ......................................... 33
    4-6 points ......................................... 11
    7-10 points ....................................... 23
    11-13 points ..................................... 10
    14 points or more ........................... 59
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    To add fuel to the fire...
    From TGS:

    Road underdogs have been getting the money consistently in Division Round games since 2003, covering 16 of 24 chances. Over the past three seasons, that success has been even more pronounced, with road dogs 10-2 vs. the number. And twice since 2003, the visiting underdog teams have covered all four Division Round games. Since 1990, when the playoffs expanded from 10 teams to 12, all Division Round hosts have been off a “bye” and a week of rest. And almost all of the “powerhouse” NFL teams in recent memory are from that first-round “bye” group, including 49 of the last 62 Super Bowl participants since ’78 (when the first-round “bye” was introduced). But the change theme reflected in the recent
    success of Division Round road dogs has made some wonder if that first-round bye” is really worth it. In each of the past four seasons, a top seed in either the NFC (the Giants, losing 23-11 at home to the Eagles a year ago, and Dallas, defeated by the visiting Giants 21-17 two years ago) or AFC (San Diego bowing to New England, 24-21, in 2006 and Indianapolis falling to Pittsburgh, 21-18, in 2005) have bitten the dust after a “bye” week. Three of the past four Super Bowl
    winners (2005 Pittsburgh, 2006 Indy, and the 2007 Giants) each participated from the outset in the playoffs, beginning their postseason adventures in the wildcard round.

    CATEGORY RESULT
    Favorites vs. line ............................ 68-64-3 (1 pick)
    Favorites straight up ............................. 94-41
    Favored by 0-3 points ............................ 7-13-1
    Favored by 3½-6½ points ..................... 24-22-1
    Favored by 7-9½ points ......................... 24-18
    Favored by 10-13½ points ...................... 10-8
    Favored by 14 points or more ............... 3-3-1
    Home teams straight up ........................ 96-40
    Home teams vs. spread ........................ 70-63-3
    Home favorites vs. spread ................... 66-61-3
    Home underdogs vs. spread .................. 3-2
    Home picks vs. spread ............................ 1-0
    Over/under (since 1986) ........................ 48-44
    MARGINS OF VICTORY
    1-3 points ......................................... 33
    4-6 points ......................................... 11
    7-10 points ....................................... 23
    11-13 points ..................................... 10
    14 points or more ........................... 59
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2010 - 10:56 PM ET #31

    Now they come up with Romo on the road?

    Used to be Dallas in December

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    Can't win a playoff game

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    Romo on the road?

    Cancun w/Jessica Simpson.......I'm saying he can win on the road
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    Now they come up with Romo on the road?

    Used to be Dallas in December

    Check

    Can't win a playoff game

    Check

    Romo on the road?

    Cancun w/Jessica Simpson.......I'm saying he can win on the road
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 1:56 AM ET #32

    With all that talk I have to say taht its going to be a struggle for both teams and it will be a Nice Under.

    Dallas Front 4 have been playing Very Well. Look for the stunts to be a problem. Also Look for Minn Front 4 to Work Dallas OLine and Lazy Man Flozel. 46 Looks like too much in a game people might expect Fireworks.
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    With all that talk I have to say taht its going to be a struggle for both teams and it will be a Nice Under.

    Dallas Front 4 have been playing Very Well. Look for the stunts to be a problem. Also Look for Minn Front 4 to Work Dallas OLine and Lazy Man Flozel. 46 Looks like too much in a game people might expect Fireworks.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 2:42 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by gaybettor:

    IMHO, if the Vikings get in their face and score early and often, I do believe that pressure will lead Romo to melt. Be objective Mr. SS and take a look at many games where Romo succumbed to the pressure/spotlight.

    Happy Hunting ( never say good luck, it jinx's

    If anyone thinks this is the same Tony Romo and the same Dallas Cowboys of the last few years, they obviously haven’t been paying attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaybettor:

    IMHO, if the Vikings get in their face and score early and often, I do believe that pressure will lead Romo to melt. Be objective Mr. SS and take a look at many games where Romo succumbed to the pressure/spotlight.

    Happy Hunting ( never say good luck, it jinx's

    If anyone thinks this is the same Tony Romo and the same Dallas Cowboys of the last few years, they obviously haven’t been paying attention.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 3:14 AM ET #34

    I would rather back a QB in his prime on a hot team, than back a 40 yr old QB who is washed up and played horrible the past month.
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    I would rather back a QB in his prime on a hot team, than back a 40 yr old QB who is washed up and played horrible the past month.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 1:01 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    I’m not quite sure where you are getting that Romo throws so many more “ill-advised throws” that Favre.  In Romo’s last 5 games he has thrown 2 picks (both of which hit his intended receiver in the hands).  In Favre’s last 5 games he has thrown 4 picks.

    And to compare Favre’s playoff career to Romo’s is beyond ridiculous.  Favre has been a starting NFL QB for two decades.  Romo has been one for not even 4 full seasons.

    You are obviously a Vikings homer who is just trying to psyche yourself up into believing that your team is not in trouble come Sunday.  The fact of the matter is your Vikings, while being a good team, are ice cold and the Cowboys are red hot.

     

    Maybe I need to change my avatar and location.  For the last fucking time, I have lived in Minnesota for one year.  I am a die hard Browns, Buckeyes, and Cavs fan as I lived over 25 years in Ohio.  I have no ties to Minnesota.  Recognize the avatar.  It is Antoine Winfield.  You know where the fuck he is from and where he went to college.  Akron Ohio and Ohio State.  I could care less if Minnesota won anything.  So before you tie your arguments to me being biased, do some fucking research.  I have posted my Ohio background in several threads.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    I’m not quite sure where you are getting that Romo throws so many more “ill-advised throws” that Favre.  In Romo’s last 5 games he has thrown 2 picks (both of which hit his intended receiver in the hands).  In Favre’s last 5 games he has thrown 4 picks.

    And to compare Favre’s playoff career to Romo’s is beyond ridiculous.  Favre has been a starting NFL QB for two decades.  Romo has been one for not even 4 full seasons.

    You are obviously a Vikings homer who is just trying to psyche yourself up into believing that your team is not in trouble come Sunday.  The fact of the matter is your Vikings, while being a good team, are ice cold and the Cowboys are red hot.

     

    Maybe I need to change my avatar and location.  For the last fucking time, I have lived in Minnesota for one year.  I am a die hard Browns, Buckeyes, and Cavs fan as I lived over 25 years in Ohio.  I have no ties to Minnesota.  Recognize the avatar.  It is Antoine Winfield.  You know where the fuck he is from and where he went to college.  Akron Ohio and Ohio State.  I could care less if Minnesota won anything.  So before you tie your arguments to me being biased, do some fucking research.  I have posted my Ohio background in several threads.   

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 1:04 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    Maybe I need to change my avatar and location.  For the last fucking time, I have lived in Minnesota for one year.  I am a die hard Browns, Buckeyes, and Cavs fan as I lived over 25 years in Ohio.  I have no ties to Minnesota.  Recognize the avatar.  It is Antoine Winfield.  You know where the fuck he is from and where he went to college.  Akron Ohio and Ohio State.  I could care less if Minnesota won anything.  So before you tie your arguments to me being biased, do some fucking research.  I have posted my Ohio background in several threads.   

    From now on I will do research on a person's background prior to responding to a post they make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    Maybe I need to change my avatar and location.  For the last fucking time, I have lived in Minnesota for one year.  I am a die hard Browns, Buckeyes, and Cavs fan as I lived over 25 years in Ohio.  I have no ties to Minnesota.  Recognize the avatar.  It is Antoine Winfield.  You know where the fuck he is from and where he went to college.  Akron Ohio and Ohio State.  I could care less if Minnesota won anything.  So before you tie your arguments to me being biased, do some fucking research.  I have posted my Ohio background in several threads.   

    From now on I will do research on a person's background prior to responding to a post they make.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 1:18 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    Now they come up with Romo on the road?

    Used to be Dallas in December

    Check

    Can't win a playoff game

    Check

    Romo on the road?

    Cancun w/Jessica Simpson.......I'm saying he can win on the road

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    Now they come up with Romo on the road?

    Used to be Dallas in December

    Check

    Can't win a playoff game

    Check

    Romo on the road?

    Cancun w/Jessica Simpson.......I'm saying he can win on the road

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 1:35 PM ET #38

    Good luck shooter,

    I am not going to discuss our differences anymore.  You probably have the better argument as Dallas likely has better lb and secondary.  I think I made a mistake there and willing to admit it.  I am going to reevaluate this game.  I can't, however, get past the motivational edge of Minn in what likely will be a close game.

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    Good luck shooter,

    I am not going to discuss our differences anymore.  You probably have the better argument as Dallas likely has better lb and secondary.  I think I made a mistake there and willing to admit it.  I am going to reevaluate this game.  I can't, however, get past the motivational edge of Minn in what likely will be a close game.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 2:11 PM ET #39

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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 2:26 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    Perhaps, but Minn is 8-0 in the dome this year.
    SF - won on a last second prayer throw by Farve
    GB - this was when GB O line was horrific
    BAL - only won this game by 2, let Flaco pass for 385 yrds?? BAL kicker missed a 44 yrd field goal with 2 seconds left
    DET - garbage
    SEA - awful road team
    CHI - awful road QB
    CIN - we all saw what this team was really made of
    NYG - one of the worst teams in the leauge this year, got lucky to draw DAL in the first game at Jerry world, to much pressure on DAL to win that game, and the 2nd meeting, DAL was not playing well at the time, completely different team now. If DAL played NYG now, they would destroy them.
    So the Vikes could very well only be 6-2 at home this year if not for lucky plays, and 4 of those home wins were against some of the worst teams in the league. Just saying that 8-0 home marked isn't as impressive as it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    Perhaps, but Minn is 8-0 in the dome this year.
    SF - won on a last second prayer throw by Farve
    GB - this was when GB O line was horrific
    BAL - only won this game by 2, let Flaco pass for 385 yrds?? BAL kicker missed a 44 yrd field goal with 2 seconds left
    DET - garbage
    SEA - awful road team
    CHI - awful road QB
    CIN - we all saw what this team was really made of
    NYG - one of the worst teams in the leauge this year, got lucky to draw DAL in the first game at Jerry world, to much pressure on DAL to win that game, and the 2nd meeting, DAL was not playing well at the time, completely different team now. If DAL played NYG now, they would destroy them.
    So the Vikes could very well only be 6-2 at home this year if not for lucky plays, and 4 of those home wins were against some of the worst teams in the league. Just saying that 8-0 home marked isn't as impressive as it seems.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 2:39 PM ET #41

    BAL - only won this game by 2, let Flaco pass for 385 yrds?? BAL kicker missed a 44 yrd field goal with 2 seconds left
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    Let's be fair...MN dominated that game for 3.5 quarters. 
     
    GB - this was when GB O line was horrific.

    And they went on the road and handled them after that.  Was the O-Line good then?  How 'bout in AZ?
     
    So Dallas bet NO..how good are they now?  And they killed Philly...how good are they now?
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    BAL - only won this game by 2, let Flaco pass for 385 yrds?? BAL kicker missed a 44 yrd field goal with 2 seconds left
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    Let's be fair...MN dominated that game for 3.5 quarters. 
     
    GB - this was when GB O line was horrific.

    And they went on the road and handled them after that.  Was the O-Line good then?  How 'bout in AZ?
     
    So Dallas bet NO..how good are they now?  And they killed Philly...how good are they now?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 2:39 PM ET #42

    I have been a Dallas fan since there has been a Dallas team, I do not always bet on them.  I do think they will win this game, Romo will not have had 20 orgasms like the week he partied before the playoff game.  Just opinion, I have been wrong before and it did not kill me.  I did bet Dallas +3, may make a little ML bet, too.  Good luck on your other plays, LOL...
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    I have been a Dallas fan since there has been a Dallas team, I do not always bet on them.  I do think they will win this game, Romo will not have had 20 orgasms like the week he partied before the playoff game.  Just opinion, I have been wrong before and it did not kill me.  I did bet Dallas +3, may make a little ML bet, too.  Good luck on your other plays, LOL...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 2:49 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    From now on I will do research on a person's background prior to responding to a post they make.



    Shooter, you're one of the better fades on this site.  Thanks for the Minny pick this Sunday. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    From now on I will do research on a person's background prior to responding to a post they make.



    Shooter, you're one of the better fades on this site.  Thanks for the Minny pick this Sunday. 


     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 2:50 PM ET #44

    Dallas gonna romp Vikes.....Plus 3 is a gift........They gonna get a azz whopping like carolina did to them...Ratcliff and ware gonna get at least 3 sacks or more.....Peterson might get loose but it won't be enough..mr rice is going to be contain by jenkins.....romo should lite up the score board like he did ...eagles...Miles/williams/witten will have a good game....miles should get at least 100 yards plus......enough said GO COWBOYS!
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    Dallas gonna romp Vikes.....Plus 3 is a gift........They gonna get a azz whopping like carolina did to them...Ratcliff and ware gonna get at least 3 sacks or more.....Peterson might get loose but it won't be enough..mr rice is going to be contain by jenkins.....romo should lite up the score board like he did ...eagles...Miles/williams/witten will have a good game....miles should get at least 100 yards plus......enough said GO COWBOYS!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 3:02 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by Molsen:



    Shooter, you're one of the better fades on this site.  Thanks for the Minny pick this Sunday. 


    If you enjoy losing your $5 bet, have at it, kid. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molsen:



    Shooter, you're one of the better fades on this site.  Thanks for the Minny pick this Sunday. 


    If you enjoy losing your $5 bet, have at it, kid. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 3:05 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    Good luck shooter,

    I am not going to discuss our differences anymore.  You probably have the better argument as Dallas likely has better lb and secondary.  I think I made a mistake there and willing to admit it.  I am going to reevaluate this game.  I can't, however, get past the motivational edge of Minn in what likely will be a close game.

    It’s nice to see someone with the guts to admit they were wrong.  You rarely see that here.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    Good luck shooter,

    I am not going to discuss our differences anymore.  You probably have the better argument as Dallas likely has better lb and secondary.  I think I made a mistake there and willing to admit it.  I am going to reevaluate this game.  I can't, however, get past the motivational edge of Minn in what likely will be a close game.

    It’s nice to see someone with the guts to admit they were wrong.  You rarely see that here.  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 3:55 PM ET #47

    your teams MOJO is not so good right now

    the boys are flying high.. jason witten will go off against your 28th ranked defense against the TE
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    your teams MOJO is not so good right now

    the boys are flying high.. jason witten will go off against your 28th ranked defense against the TE
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 4:31 PM ET #48

    Road game? There are going to be 20,000 Cowboy fans at the game. It'll be like the GB-AZ game.

    Look how many tickets are available on StubHub.

    They are America's Team for a reason.
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    Road game? There are going to be 20,000 Cowboy fans at the game. It'll be like the GB-AZ game.

    Look how many tickets are available on StubHub.

    They are America's Team for a reason.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 4:44 PM ET #49

    yeah look at the line -2,5 one FG you win right  put your house on it and GL with your bet
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    yeah look at the line -2,5 one FG you win right  put your house on it and GL with your bet
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 5:21 PM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by MDAAKD:

    People actually think that Barber/Jones/Choice are better than AD/CT? 

     Thinking the same thing. I love how everyone is acting like Dallas's defense is the new steel curtain all of a suddenThey are a respectable 9th in overall defense (Minny is 6th). They are 20th ranked against the pass (Minny 19th). Pretty damn good against the run at 4th ranked (Minny 2nd). Lets not get carried away with these guys. Sure they stopped a ridiculously one dimensional Philly team two weeks in a row but what does that mean? Minny will move the ball just fine. I'll take em' at home as less than a FG favorite All Day. GL everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDAAKD:

    People actually think that Barber/Jones/Choice are better than AD/CT? 

     Thinking the same thing. I love how everyone is acting like Dallas's defense is the new steel curtain all of a suddenThey are a respectable 9th in overall defense (Minny is 6th). They are 20th ranked against the pass (Minny 19th). Pretty damn good against the run at 4th ranked (Minny 2nd). Lets not get carried away with these guys. Sure they stopped a ridiculously one dimensional Philly team two weeks in a row but what does that mean? Minny will move the ball just fine. I'll take em' at home as less than a FG favorite All Day. GL everyone

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