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    SportsIntuition
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 5:51 PM ET #76

    @insatiable

     peace_5

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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 5:52 PM ET #77

    In any case, 25-14-1 is very impressive. I've been tailing quite a few with and without the -120. I think both times I didn't take the hook, I need the hook. So there's that.

    All that matters is that you hit enough games with the hook to cover the extra premiums in the games you lose. That's math. 

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    In any case, 25-14-1 is very impressive. I've been tailing quite a few with and without the -120. I think both times I didn't take the hook, I need the hook. So there's that.

    All that matters is that you hit enough games with the hook to cover the extra premiums in the games you lose. That's math. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 5:52 PM ET #78

    @starguide

     

     in your example, i said the exact same thing you are saying....is the guy 10-20 playing massive dogs....or is he 10-20 playing -110 lines but one of his wins was a 20-unit wager....

     

    and for SI he can buy from +2.5 to +3.0 for 10 cents from what i am gathering...so thats what im referring too

     

    if your book is charging 25-35 cents for a 0.5 or 1.0 than it isnt a smart option IMO

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    @starguide

     

     in your example, i said the exact same thing you are saying....is the guy 10-20 playing massive dogs....or is he 10-20 playing -110 lines but one of his wins was a 20-unit wager....

     

    and for SI he can buy from +2.5 to +3.0 for 10 cents from what i am gathering...so thats what im referring too

     

    if your book is charging 25-35 cents for a 0.5 or 1.0 than it isnt a smart option IMO

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 5:55 PM ET #79

    @starguide

     yes SI and I4P are having 2 of the best NFL seasons to date so far

     

    1 guy went on a heater last year 1st half but gave most of it back....might have been tyler1234 or pineapplexpress

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     yes SI and I4P are having 2 of the best NFL seasons to date so far

     

    1 guy went on a heater last year 1st half but gave most of it back....might have been tyler1234 or pineapplexpress

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 6:01 PM ET #80

    NO SIDE PLAY TONIGHT

    I like the under so much that I'd rather just sit back and cheer for a boring slow pace game. I'm seeing a 20-17/23-16 kind of game.

    Good luck to everyone!

    Let's all cash!

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    NO SIDE PLAY TONIGHT

    I like the under so much that I'd rather just sit back and cheer for a boring slow pace game. I'm seeing a 20-17/23-16 kind of game.

    Good luck to everyone!

    Let's all cash!

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 6:02 PM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsIntuition:

    NO SIDE PLAY TONIGHT I like the under so much that I'd rather just sit back and cheer for a boring slow pace game. I'm seeing a 20-17/23-16 kind of game. Good luck to everyone! Let's all cash!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsIntuition:

    NO SIDE PLAY TONIGHT I like the under so much that I'd rather just sit back and cheer for a boring slow pace game. I'm seeing a 20-17/23-16 kind of game. Good luck to everyone! Let's all cash!
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 6:03 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    for SI he can sell from +2.5 to +3.0 for 10 cents from what i am gathering...so thats what im referring to

     

    if your book is charging 25-35 cents for a 0.5 or 1.0 than it isnt a smart option IMO

    To give him benefit of doubt, maybe he bet earlier when line was more favorable?

    Yeah NO book charges 10 cents for getting on/off of 3. EVERY legit book charges 25c-35c. But again, if you turn enough losses into pushes, and enough pushes into wins, it's worth it.

    "The vig only matters if you lose." :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    for SI he can sell from +2.5 to +3.0 for 10 cents from what i am gathering...so thats what im referring to

     

    if your book is charging 25-35 cents for a 0.5 or 1.0 than it isnt a smart option IMO

    To give him benefit of doubt, maybe he bet earlier when line was more favorable?

    Yeah NO book charges 10 cents for getting on/off of 3. EVERY legit book charges 25c-35c. But again, if you turn enough losses into pushes, and enough pushes into wins, it's worth it.

    "The vig only matters if you lose." :)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 6:05 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @starguide  yes SI and I4P are having 2 of the best NFL seasons to date so far

    Yep!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @starguide  yes SI and I4P are having 2 of the best NFL seasons to date so far

    Yep!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 6:10 PM ET #84

    @starguide

     

     yes but buying and paying 20-35 cents obviously changes your required win rate on said bet...which would change the dynamics of the play being +EV or not anymore

     

    for easy numbers

     

    -110 or 1.91 line means you need to win this bet 52.4% of the time to be profitable

     

    -120 or 1.833 line means you need to win this bet 54.55% of the time to be profitable

     

    -130 or 1.77 line means you need to win this bet 56.55% of the time to be profitable

     

    this would go into your +ev calcs

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    @starguide

     

     yes but buying and paying 20-35 cents obviously changes your required win rate on said bet...which would change the dynamics of the play being +EV or not anymore

     

    for easy numbers

     

    -110 or 1.91 line means you need to win this bet 52.4% of the time to be profitable

     

    -120 or 1.833 line means you need to win this bet 54.55% of the time to be profitable

     

    -130 or 1.77 line means you need to win this bet 56.55% of the time to be profitable

     

    this would go into your +ev calcs

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 6:35 PM ET #85

    @dubz4dummyz

    Based on that, you basically have to turn a push into a win about 4% of the time at -130, which he's been able to accomplish (2 wins out of 40 bets). As long as he can continue to do that ...

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    Based on that, you basically have to turn a push into a win about 4% of the time at -130, which he's been able to accomplish (2 wins out of 40 bets). As long as he can continue to do that ...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 9:56 PM ET #86

    Laid off as my guy had it at 49… looks good SI…. 

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    Laid off as my guy had it at 49… looks good SI…. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 10:34 PM ET #87

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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 10:37 PM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by Mskeets:

    Laid off as my guy had it at 49… looks good SI….

    Most books I looked at had it 51 about 3 hours before game time. They all dropped to 49-49.5 by game time. Maybe due to SI effect ... LOL ... I know I bet more than usual on this game due to SI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mskeets:

    Laid off as my guy had it at 49… looks good SI….

    Most books I looked at had it 51 about 3 hours before game time. They all dropped to 49-49.5 by game time. Maybe due to SI effect ... LOL ... I know I bet more than usual on this game due to SI.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 10:41 PM ET #89

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     No no no, they heard Davidsss  took the under 

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     No no no, they heard Davidsss  took the under 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 10:50 PM ET #90

    Penalty every other play… no way to sustain a drive.    Good pic SI.  Fiddle sticks on me.  

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    Penalty every other play… no way to sustain a drive.    Good pic SI.  Fiddle sticks on me.  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 11:18 PM ET #91

    Under 51 was the best bet on the board today. Great call Sports, thank you for posting!!

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    Under 51 was the best bet on the board today. Great call Sports, thank you for posting!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 11:27 PM ET #92

    Quote Originally Posted by Rowdie22:

    @starguide  No no no, they heard Davidsss  took the under

    All I know is based on this SI thread, I bet 6 units, and then immediately the line dropped from 51 to 50.5. So obviously *I* had something to do with it, which means SI had something to do with it. an_wink

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowdie22:

    @starguide  No no no, they heard Davidsss  took the under

    All I know is based on this SI thread, I bet 6 units, and then immediately the line dropped from 51 to 50.5. So obviously *I* had something to do with it, which means SI had something to do with it. an_wink

     

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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 11:29 PM ET #93

    Under never in doubt.  Good call.

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    Under never in doubt.  Good call.

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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 11:35 PM ET #94

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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2023 - 11:47 PM ET #95

    20-17 Final...did you find Biffs Sports Almanac??

    SI keep being You.. you're having a successful campaign..win

    VAN , stay above this debate, We all know he loves buying points in Certain situations which makes total sense peace

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    20-17 Final...did you find Biffs Sports Almanac??

    SI keep being You.. you're having a successful campaign..win

    VAN , stay above this debate, We all know he loves buying points in Certain situations which makes total sense peace

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2023 - 12:21 AM ET #96

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadejax: He is forgetting that almost all books are charging -135 juice to move off of 3 and 7 these days. The -120 juice off 3 and 7 are not easy to find. I do not have a problem if someone wants to buy a 1/2 point, but paying -135 for it is ridiculous and thats what both my books charge, and thats what MGM and Caesars charge. Im sure he is just forgetting.

    no juice is charged when I win...only when u lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadejax: He is forgetting that almost all books are charging -135 juice to move off of 3 and 7 these days. The -120 juice off 3 and 7 are not easy to find. I do not have a problem if someone wants to buy a 1/2 point, but paying -135 for it is ridiculous and thats what both my books charge, and thats what MGM and Caesars charge. Im sure he is just forgetting.

    no juice is charged when I win...only when u lose.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2023 - 12:22 AM ET #97

    com'on guys, focus on the WIN...

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    com'on guys, focus on the WIN...

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2023 - 12:47 AM ET #98

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsIntuition:

    @vanzack    Here's my record and profit based on the worst case scenario assumptions. 25-14-1 NFL = +8.2 units What's yours "Mr. Ego, I gotta be right" What I have observed over the years is that most people who only post profit do so because their actual win percentage sucks and the only reason why they are in the green is because they won a few big plays that offset all the losses. Let's be honest "Mr. Ego"... Who's better and why? Person A who is 20-10 and +10.9 units, or Person B who is 10-20 and 10.9 units?
            have not read all the thread.....but "most people who only post a profit and not record have losing record"  REALLY...wow..did not know that....IN THE END CASH IS KING AND records are not my number one interest....but maybe there is a point in a better record i don't know....POSTING A RECORD     "WITHOUT KEEPING A PROFIT OR LOSS NUMBER"  WTF IS THE POINT IN THAT.....books don't pay records

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    @vanzack    Here's my record and profit based on the worst case scenario assumptions. 25-14-1 NFL = +8.2 units What's yours "Mr. Ego, I gotta be right" What I have observed over the years is that most people who only post profit do so because their actual win percentage sucks and the only reason why they are in the green is because they won a few big plays that offset all the losses. Let's be honest "Mr. Ego"... Who's better and why? Person A who is 20-10 and +10.9 units, or Person B who is 10-20 and 10.9 units?
            have not read all the thread.....but "most people who only post a profit and not record have losing record"  REALLY...wow..did not know that....IN THE END CASH IS KING AND records are not my number one interest....but maybe there is a point in a better record i don't know....POSTING A RECORD     "WITHOUT KEEPING A PROFIT OR LOSS NUMBER"  WTF IS THE POINT IN THAT.....books don't pay records

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsIntuition:

    25-14-1 NFL   28-19 CFB  TONIGHT: UNDER 51 This total is off by at least 10 points. Might have another pick on the side later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsIntuition:

    25-14-1 NFL   28-19 CFB  TONIGHT: UNDER 51 This total is off by at least 10 points. Might have another pick on the side later.

     
     
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    CONGRATS on the win ....thx post winner  moneybag   win 

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    CONGRATS on the win ....thx post winner  moneybag   win 

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