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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2013 - 5:11 PM ET #1

    …..But don't tell Ray Lewis that, we might miss out on the greatest Disney movie ever made that has to uncomfortably brush over a double homicide! 

    But seriously folks, we are watching is a 30 for 30 special in the making, I for one will continue to enjoy the show. Aside from all of the ESPN story lines; Har-Bowl, Rays Last Ride, Flacco's Pursuit of Credibility, I mean the game is Mike N' Mike's wet dream.

    We all know about the intangibles and side stories of this game and thus I will give them no more time, watch Skip Bayless yell at your TV screen for that show. But we still got a football game to play and that means looking at the salient match ups between the teams, as they say in boxing, “styles make fights,” you think football is different?

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    …..But don't tell Ray Lewis that, we might miss out on the greatest Disney movie ever made that has to uncomfortably brush over a double homicide! 

    But seriously folks, we are watching is a 30 for 30 special in the making, I for one will continue to enjoy the show. Aside from all of the ESPN story lines; Har-Bowl, Rays Last Ride, Flacco's Pursuit of Credibility, I mean the game is Mike N' Mike's wet dream.

    We all know about the intangibles and side stories of this game and thus I will give them no more time, watch Skip Bayless yell at your TV screen for that show. But we still got a football game to play and that means looking at the salient match ups between the teams, as they say in boxing, “styles make fights,” you think football is different?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2013 - 5:12 PM ET #2

    So lets get right to it…

    As physically demanding as this football game will be, it will not be decided by San Fran’s front 7, the strength of their defense.  As much as Justin Smith’s presence is an emotional upgrade to any other player on the planet, the once dominating pass rush of the Smith Brothers is a thing of the past.  Last year after two full playoff games, the Smith Bro’s each had 2 sacks, this year, goose eggs for both. Without Justin playing at 100% the San Fran pass rush has turned into the “Mush Rush.”  This is not to say that is ineffective, Ahmad Brooks had a batted ball on a critical third down at the end of the Falcons game. However for all those who think Flacco will spend much of the day on the ground, I would ask who is putting him there? The Raven will try to run the ball at times but will not come to the game to pound the Niners' into submission. It will come down to Balty's pass blocking vs. Inners’ Pass rush, and right now this is an advantage Baltimore, that line is keeping Flacco’s road jersey bleach white.

    This game will come down to the “Back 7” of the Niners’. As we have seen Flacco is quickly becoming the “King of the Deep Ball” With the speed of Torrey Smith and the shear power of Boldin. Flacco is simply throwing the ball as far as he can because in all likelihood his guys are going to out play the completion and come up with it. I see a mismatch between the wideout's of Baltimore and the secondary of San Fran, just look at what happened early in the Falcons game. And we haven’t even mentioned the check downs of Ray Rice and the fast emerging Dennis “The Big-Wet” Pitta. There are simply too many passing weapons and a hot Joe Cool coming out of Baltimore for this run stopping team to handle in space.

    I see the backs and tight ends vs. the AMAZING linebackers of the Niners’ as a draw not an advantage to either team. However I will say that in the pass game I see Rice and Pitta as slightly more applicable than the linebackers because Willis and Co. would rather come up to stuff the run than drop and play coverage. But again, no clear advantages here, Niners Linebackers are studs and so are Ray Rice, Vonte Leach and Pitta.

    As they did against the Falcons, deep pass plays will yield points for the Ravens with the difference being that the Falcons D will not be on the field. As difficult as it is to drive on the Forty Niners’, Baltimore will relive much of the pressure with several deep sideline throws and the deep in routes.

    In short I think this is just a mismatch of football philosophy. Both sides of the ball are physical but focus on different goals. The Forty Niners’ stop the run with 7 and can play coverage, but the strength of that coverage is the underneath routes with the linebackers. Think of the deep attack of the Giants being able to take advantage of the Niners’ coverage.  The Ravens O will run the ball, but really gets off on the deep pass OR with everyone manned up deep, middle throws to Pitta and Rice. Simply to many weapons mismatched against what is not the strength of the San Fran D.

    Balty O Vs. Niners’ D= Slight Advantage Ravens

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    So lets get right to it…

    As physically demanding as this football game will be, it will not be decided by San Fran’s front 7, the strength of their defense.  As much as Justin Smith’s presence is an emotional upgrade to any other player on the planet, the once dominating pass rush of the Smith Brothers is a thing of the past.  Last year after two full playoff games, the Smith Bro’s each had 2 sacks, this year, goose eggs for both. Without Justin playing at 100% the San Fran pass rush has turned into the “Mush Rush.”  This is not to say that is ineffective, Ahmad Brooks had a batted ball on a critical third down at the end of the Falcons game. However for all those who think Flacco will spend much of the day on the ground, I would ask who is putting him there? The Raven will try to run the ball at times but will not come to the game to pound the Niners' into submission. It will come down to Balty's pass blocking vs. Inners’ Pass rush, and right now this is an advantage Baltimore, that line is keeping Flacco’s road jersey bleach white.

    This game will come down to the “Back 7” of the Niners’. As we have seen Flacco is quickly becoming the “King of the Deep Ball” With the speed of Torrey Smith and the shear power of Boldin. Flacco is simply throwing the ball as far as he can because in all likelihood his guys are going to out play the completion and come up with it. I see a mismatch between the wideout's of Baltimore and the secondary of San Fran, just look at what happened early in the Falcons game. And we haven’t even mentioned the check downs of Ray Rice and the fast emerging Dennis “The Big-Wet” Pitta. There are simply too many passing weapons and a hot Joe Cool coming out of Baltimore for this run stopping team to handle in space.

    I see the backs and tight ends vs. the AMAZING linebackers of the Niners’ as a draw not an advantage to either team. However I will say that in the pass game I see Rice and Pitta as slightly more applicable than the linebackers because Willis and Co. would rather come up to stuff the run than drop and play coverage. But again, no clear advantages here, Niners Linebackers are studs and so are Ray Rice, Vonte Leach and Pitta.

    As they did against the Falcons, deep pass plays will yield points for the Ravens with the difference being that the Falcons D will not be on the field. As difficult as it is to drive on the Forty Niners’, Baltimore will relive much of the pressure with several deep sideline throws and the deep in routes.

    In short I think this is just a mismatch of football philosophy. Both sides of the ball are physical but focus on different goals. The Forty Niners’ stop the run with 7 and can play coverage, but the strength of that coverage is the underneath routes with the linebackers. Think of the deep attack of the Giants being able to take advantage of the Niners’ coverage.  The Ravens O will run the ball, but really gets off on the deep pass OR with everyone manned up deep, middle throws to Pitta and Rice. Simply to many weapons mismatched against what is not the strength of the San Fran D.

    Balty O Vs. Niners’ D= Slight Advantage Ravens

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2013 - 5:13 PM ET #3

                Ok now lets flip it and look at San Francisco Offense Vs. Baltimore’s D. 

    Obviously the Forty Niners’ are a running team at their core, Kap is turning into the Brady of 2001, making clutch throws but letting the run game and defense do most of the heavy lifting. Not saying anything about Kap, he is turning into a phenom and I believe he IS the wildcard in this game. How big or little he comes up will determine the game. The Niners’ passing game consists mostly of underneath mesh routes, screens, and drags for the wide outs, although Randy does seam to still go deep. Vernon Davis however is the true down the field threat for San Fran and Baltimore could have trouble stopping him if this connection is as hot as it was in the second half of the Falcons game.

    All that said I think the better defensive game plan will be on the Baltimore sideline. Now experience with an opponent had something to do with this, but the game plans successive ravens coaches, *Cough* Ray Lewis *COUGH* have come up with to confound Brady, Manning, and often Big Ben, are not to be underestimated. Playing and winning against those quarterbacks takes a great game plan, disguise, and discipline, all things that the FORTY NINERS OFFENSE SEEKS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF! Baltimore will not let the read option and other quirks fool them for the WHOLE GAME.

     I see Vernon getting jammed every play off the line of scrimmage. Again this would mean a huge drop off in pass rush, especially because Suggs would often be the jammer. But think about it, no pass rush is needed against this team.

     If you watch Kap, the one thing he does not do YET is progress from covered receivers to second and third receivers; it is first look and then run. San Fran WILL EITHER be running the ball OR PASS TO THE FIRST LOOK ONLY, after that he always tucks and runs. Go back and watch some tape if you want proof, it is part of the reason he is such a dynamic runner, he is AGGRESSIVE WITH HIS LEGS.  All the Vernon throws, Crabtree throws, first looks, great play design and throw, but no progression. Baltimore will try to take that first look away and bottle him up using a “mush rush." This will require a big game from the Raven linebackers but I don’t think Ray or the defense would have it any other way.

    Looking at the offensive and defensive lines, I see another draw here. Both are full of warhorses. Joe Staley, Haloti Ngata, I mean were going to see the clash of the titans on Super Sunday. But I see it much like the start of a sumo match; both big men meet, slap each other, and can’t move an inch. In the NFL a stalemate usually means the offensive line has won or at least not lost, but like the Niners defensive line, the philosophy is space eating. The big defensive linemen of the ravens are bred to occupy blocks so Ray Lewis can clean everything up. This leaves the Ravens linebacking core to either show up or shut up against Frank Gore, L.  James, and Kap on the read option. Although I think Balty will struggle with this aspect of the game early, certainly by halftime these on field coaches will have figured out exactly what they need to do to stop this aspect of the offense. I believe this because they will spend all week learning and practicing against the read option, be surprised by the speed and power of the Niners game early, but after they get used to the speed, techniques and emotional staying power will start to make plays.

    The last part of the Ravens D, the back end, I believe is a big advantage over the Niners’ receiving core as a whole, if you include V. Davis, include Ravens backers to cover him. A game of importance to me is the last game of the season against Arizona. Yes it was a real game, division rivals, chance to knock Forty Niners’ from home field advantage, both teams wanted a win and played like it. Not many people watched that game but it was a much closer affair than the final score indicates. The big, physical defense of the Cardinals thoroughly won that game, but was literally playing without a competitive offense. Adrian Wilson and that secondary caused all kinds of problems for the Forty Niners. Although not as nasty as Adrian Wilson, they have B Pollard for that, Ed Reed, who also may retire after this year, is far deceptive than the vet from Arizona. If Kap thinks he can simply lock in on Davis deep in the middle of the field, I think we will watch another Ed Reed Pick 6 Special. He is one of the most deceptive secondary players in league history at baiting routes he wants thrown. This is part of the reason he is able to pick off veteran quarterbacks like Manning and Brady. I think Kap should be more focused on #20 than anyone else on the field potential day spoiler. Although Crabtree has been hot, he was not quite the same guy last game and the Ravens secondary tackles MUCH, MUCH better than either the Packers or the Falcons.

    In short, Baltimore Defense is again a slight mismatch for San Francisco’ offense. I think we see a draw at the line of scrimmage and in the linebackers against backs and tight ends. However, Baltimore does have a clear advantage in the secondary against the wide receivers of the Forty Niners’. Given that an edge exists in the secondary, I also expect if necessary for Pollard to drop into the box to dirty some jerseys.

    Forty Niners’ Offense vs. Baltimore Defense= Slight Edge

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                Ok now lets flip it and look at San Francisco Offense Vs. Baltimore’s D. 

    Obviously the Forty Niners’ are a running team at their core, Kap is turning into the Brady of 2001, making clutch throws but letting the run game and defense do most of the heavy lifting. Not saying anything about Kap, he is turning into a phenom and I believe he IS the wildcard in this game. How big or little he comes up will determine the game. The Niners’ passing game consists mostly of underneath mesh routes, screens, and drags for the wide outs, although Randy does seam to still go deep. Vernon Davis however is the true down the field threat for San Fran and Baltimore could have trouble stopping him if this connection is as hot as it was in the second half of the Falcons game.

    All that said I think the better defensive game plan will be on the Baltimore sideline. Now experience with an opponent had something to do with this, but the game plans successive ravens coaches, *Cough* Ray Lewis *COUGH* have come up with to confound Brady, Manning, and often Big Ben, are not to be underestimated. Playing and winning against those quarterbacks takes a great game plan, disguise, and discipline, all things that the FORTY NINERS OFFENSE SEEKS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF! Baltimore will not let the read option and other quirks fool them for the WHOLE GAME.

     I see Vernon getting jammed every play off the line of scrimmage. Again this would mean a huge drop off in pass rush, especially because Suggs would often be the jammer. But think about it, no pass rush is needed against this team.

     If you watch Kap, the one thing he does not do YET is progress from covered receivers to second and third receivers; it is first look and then run. San Fran WILL EITHER be running the ball OR PASS TO THE FIRST LOOK ONLY, after that he always tucks and runs. Go back and watch some tape if you want proof, it is part of the reason he is such a dynamic runner, he is AGGRESSIVE WITH HIS LEGS.  All the Vernon throws, Crabtree throws, first looks, great play design and throw, but no progression. Baltimore will try to take that first look away and bottle him up using a “mush rush." This will require a big game from the Raven linebackers but I don’t think Ray or the defense would have it any other way.

    Looking at the offensive and defensive lines, I see another draw here. Both are full of warhorses. Joe Staley, Haloti Ngata, I mean were going to see the clash of the titans on Super Sunday. But I see it much like the start of a sumo match; both big men meet, slap each other, and can’t move an inch. In the NFL a stalemate usually means the offensive line has won or at least not lost, but like the Niners defensive line, the philosophy is space eating. The big defensive linemen of the ravens are bred to occupy blocks so Ray Lewis can clean everything up. This leaves the Ravens linebacking core to either show up or shut up against Frank Gore, L.  James, and Kap on the read option. Although I think Balty will struggle with this aspect of the game early, certainly by halftime these on field coaches will have figured out exactly what they need to do to stop this aspect of the offense. I believe this because they will spend all week learning and practicing against the read option, be surprised by the speed and power of the Niners game early, but after they get used to the speed, techniques and emotional staying power will start to make plays.

    The last part of the Ravens D, the back end, I believe is a big advantage over the Niners’ receiving core as a whole, if you include V. Davis, include Ravens backers to cover him. A game of importance to me is the last game of the season against Arizona. Yes it was a real game, division rivals, chance to knock Forty Niners’ from home field advantage, both teams wanted a win and played like it. Not many people watched that game but it was a much closer affair than the final score indicates. The big, physical defense of the Cardinals thoroughly won that game, but was literally playing without a competitive offense. Adrian Wilson and that secondary caused all kinds of problems for the Forty Niners. Although not as nasty as Adrian Wilson, they have B Pollard for that, Ed Reed, who also may retire after this year, is far deceptive than the vet from Arizona. If Kap thinks he can simply lock in on Davis deep in the middle of the field, I think we will watch another Ed Reed Pick 6 Special. He is one of the most deceptive secondary players in league history at baiting routes he wants thrown. This is part of the reason he is able to pick off veteran quarterbacks like Manning and Brady. I think Kap should be more focused on #20 than anyone else on the field potential day spoiler. Although Crabtree has been hot, he was not quite the same guy last game and the Ravens secondary tackles MUCH, MUCH better than either the Packers or the Falcons.

    In short, Baltimore Defense is again a slight mismatch for San Francisco’ offense. I think we see a draw at the line of scrimmage and in the linebackers against backs and tight ends. However, Baltimore does have a clear advantage in the secondary against the wide receivers of the Forty Niners’. Given that an edge exists in the secondary, I also expect if necessary for Pollard to drop into the box to dirty some jerseys.

    Forty Niners’ Offense vs. Baltimore Defense= Slight Edge

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2013 - 5:14 PM ET #4

    Last but not least, the most special of teams, Special Teams…

    I won’t write much because this seems like a no brainer. DAVID AKERS… Need I say more? Ok two more words, JACOBY JONES… Still want more? Ok, Niners can’t kick a field goal and Baltimore has a great chance to run back every kickoff and punt for a touchdown. OK NO MO!

    Niners Special Teams vs. Baltimore Special Teams= BIG ADVANTAGE BALITMORE

    This has been an enormous write up for me but I feel it helps ME analyze games if I actually have to defend it to myself on paper. Feel free to leave comments about good or bad points in the write up but don’t waste your time saying YOU SUCK, OTHER SIDE (HANDSHAKE)… PS I don’t care, just wanted to write all this out and if we get a good dialogue going, GREAT!!!

     

    Hope you all enjoyed the season as much as I did and I am sad this is the last game, but all good things come to an end, just like Ray Lewis’ career, I only wish we were all so lucky as to win a Super Bowl on the way out the door.

     

    Baltimore 31

    Forty Niners’ 28

    Baltimore +4 BEST BET IN HISTORY, (Well Last weeks +9ish against pats was better, but still!)

    Ravens ML= MONEY, MONEY DON’T TELL THA HONEY!!!

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    Last but not least, the most special of teams, Special Teams…

    I won’t write much because this seems like a no brainer. DAVID AKERS… Need I say more? Ok two more words, JACOBY JONES… Still want more? Ok, Niners can’t kick a field goal and Baltimore has a great chance to run back every kickoff and punt for a touchdown. OK NO MO!

    Niners Special Teams vs. Baltimore Special Teams= BIG ADVANTAGE BALITMORE

    This has been an enormous write up for me but I feel it helps ME analyze games if I actually have to defend it to myself on paper. Feel free to leave comments about good or bad points in the write up but don’t waste your time saying YOU SUCK, OTHER SIDE (HANDSHAKE)… PS I don’t care, just wanted to write all this out and if we get a good dialogue going, GREAT!!!

     

    Hope you all enjoyed the season as much as I did and I am sad this is the last game, but all good things come to an end, just like Ray Lewis’ career, I only wish we were all so lucky as to win a Super Bowl on the way out the door.

     

    Baltimore 31

    Forty Niners’ 28

    Baltimore +4 BEST BET IN HISTORY, (Well Last weeks +9ish against pats was better, but still!)

    Ravens ML= MONEY, MONEY DON’T TELL THA HONEY!!!

     
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    Bol Fellas and I hope you all won MILLIONS this year!-MVP Joe Flacco
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    let me break it down for u like this do i think god wins football games  honestly who knows maybe only he knows but do i think he could help football teams win yep i do esp if they believe n him n have faith n him heres a example last year tebow this fool cant even throw a 10 yard slant pass  all he had was his legs power n faith n god n put believe n his whole team  n look how far he went last year n maybe never will thtz on him how hard he workz on it n the off season n understands he has to work on it n keep n faith n god cuz this will be the  hardest thing hes going to have to go thru n get thru n life hes not going to have the silver spoon n his mouth nomore but this topic aint about tebow itz about today happeningz now time i dont know why or how ray lewis got close to god he only can aswer tht but the sayin  god workz mysterious wayz is reality but most dont have the vision to see tht so most never get to see it or feel it i know this for ray lewis to show so much emotion n speak about god it could help bring more ballas  ganstas hustlas on the field than jail or death bal team has got closer n kept believe n themselves n each team member ray lewis has sprinkled tht on the whole team n now itz not jus lewis tht believes n has faith n god the whole team does u can see tht by there emotion n there speakin out about how god is good maybe this could be art modell helpin them but ill tell u this believe it or not god has def helped bal team get to the superbowl n now itz up to bal to finish this spirit ispirational amazin  ride they got one rough  ready challengin chapter to conquer thru n thtz sf niners god already knows whoes going to win itz  up to us to figure whoz going to win to best bet dont go against bal this year esp if  vegas stupid enough to give u points peace
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    let me break it down for u like this do i think god wins football games  honestly who knows maybe only he knows but do i think he could help football teams win yep i do esp if they believe n him n have faith n him heres a example last year tebow this fool cant even throw a 10 yard slant pass  all he had was his legs power n faith n god n put believe n his whole team  n look how far he went last year n maybe never will thtz on him how hard he workz on it n the off season n understands he has to work on it n keep n faith n god cuz this will be the  hardest thing hes going to have to go thru n get thru n life hes not going to have the silver spoon n his mouth nomore but this topic aint about tebow itz about today happeningz now time i dont know why or how ray lewis got close to god he only can aswer tht but the sayin  god workz mysterious wayz is reality but most dont have the vision to see tht so most never get to see it or feel it i know this for ray lewis to show so much emotion n speak about god it could help bring more ballas  ganstas hustlas on the field than jail or death bal team has got closer n kept believe n themselves n each team member ray lewis has sprinkled tht on the whole team n now itz not jus lewis tht believes n has faith n god the whole team does u can see tht by there emotion n there speakin out about how god is good maybe this could be art modell helpin them but ill tell u this believe it or not god has def helped bal team get to the superbowl n now itz up to bal to finish this spirit ispirational amazin  ride they got one rough  ready challengin chapter to conquer thru n thtz sf niners god already knows whoes going to win itz  up to us to figure whoz going to win to best bet dont go against bal this year esp if  vegas stupid enough to give u points peace
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 1:03 AM ET #7

    awesome breakdown. very surprised at the line
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    awesome breakdown. very surprised at the line
     
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    thanks mista 
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    Finally somebody who knows lol 


    Good luck 


    Baltimore will win , I can't believe everybody is fooled by the 49ers
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    Finally somebody who knows lol 


    Good luck 


    Baltimore will win , I can't believe everybody is fooled by the 49ers
     
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    Hope so Gav, Still gotta play the Game but I like the way this matches up for the Dog
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 8:17 AM ET #11

    We all know god doesn't give a garbage about millions dying from plagues, hunger and wars..... so maybe all he does care about are outcomes of sporting events.
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    Hey boost-man, clearly u didn't read anything but the Headline, glad that got you at least, but I've seen you troll like three peoples threads calling em liars and now this........ As I said, I don't care about this aspect of this game, both teams will come to win and yes if god let nukes fall all over the planet after the holocaust I don't think he is invested in Balt +4..... Bol on clearing up your trolling disease
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    Hey boost-man, clearly u didn't read anything but the Headline, glad that got you at least, but I've seen you troll like three peoples threads calling em liars and now this........ As I said, I don't care about this aspect of this game, both teams will come to win and yes if god let nukes fall all over the planet after the holocaust I don't think he is invested in Balt +4..... Bol on clearing up your trolling disease
     
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    God let nukes fall all over the planet after the holocaust?

    Bilderburgh Group 


    Nice write up anyway
    - The storms will come, the storms will pass -
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    Nice write up anyway
     
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    GOD has given us Free Will
























    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 10:30 AM ET #15

    How Much Coke where you on when you did this write-up ???



    j/k but would be understandable 



    Best of Luck Brother 
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    How Much Coke where you on when you did this write-up ???



    j/k but would be understandable 



    Best of Luck Brother 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizerguy:

    God let nukes fall all over the planet after the holocaust?

    Bilderburgh Group 


    Nice write up anyway

    Not saying he did it at all, I just mean if he didn't prevent it........ Same logic as thinking he actually has a hand in who wins and loses....... Both seem ridiculous to me.....


    Brotherman, No blow, just that good goodie green...... Helps me to crystalize my thoughts about a topic if I have to write it out.... 




    PS To ALL....... THREAD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD, ALL ABOUT FOOTBALL MATCH-UPS!!!! SATAN DECIDES GAMES, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT, COMON RAY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizerguy:

    God let nukes fall all over the planet after the holocaust?

    Bilderburgh Group 


    Nice write up anyway

    Not saying he did it at all, I just mean if he didn't prevent it........ Same logic as thinking he actually has a hand in who wins and loses....... Both seem ridiculous to me.....


    Brotherman, No blow, just that good goodie green...... Helps me to crystalize my thoughts about a topic if I have to write it out.... 




    PS To ALL....... THREAD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD, ALL ABOUT FOOTBALL MATCH-UPS!!!! SATAN DECIDES GAMES, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT, COMON RAY
     
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    god is just a figment of man's wild imagination.

    So it's funny when people fight over what it supposedly cares about or not.

    DUMMY.


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    So it's funny when people fight over what it supposedly cares about or not.

    DUMMY.


     
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    Hey boost u suck! Go spam and troll in other peoples threads, I hate that I even mentioned god because stupid people like you who don't even read the full post can never get past a headline, I guess thats why newspapers are doing so bad and forums full of wet diapered trolls like yourself are doing so well..... Peace be with you, you utter waste of time..... NOW BE GONE!!!!!!!
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    Hey boost u suck! Go spam and troll in other peoples threads, I hate that I even mentioned god because stupid people like you who don't even read the full post can never get past a headline, I guess thats why newspapers are doing so bad and forums full of wet diapered trolls like yourself are doing so well..... Peace be with you, you utter waste of time..... NOW BE GONE!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2013 - 2:53 PM ET #19

    Excellent analysis ! I was going to do my own write-up, but you have done most of it, I truly believe the wrong team is favored here. I thought it would be Balty - 4.5. Either I'm horribly wrong (as well as you and other's) or the book's are trying a reverse phsycology, triple lundy, trap that AS* maneuver. They have to try and do something as the got killed this year. The only thing's I will add to your fine screed is that I think the bird's D is playing TRULY INSPIRED ball. Both are fine D's, but one is playing over the top. Advantage: Bird's. As far as QB play, I will go with the battle tested veteran extremely motivated to right past wrong's. Advantage: Bird's

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    Excellent analysis ! I was going to do my own write-up, but you have done most of it, I truly believe the wrong team is favored here. I thought it would be Balty - 4.5. Either I'm horribly wrong (as well as you and other's) or the book's are trying a reverse phsycology, triple lundy, trap that AS* maneuver. They have to try and do something as the got killed this year. The only thing's I will add to your fine screed is that I think the bird's D is playing TRULY INSPIRED ball. Both are fine D's, but one is playing over the top. Advantage: Bird's. As far as QB play, I will go with the battle tested veteran extremely motivated to right past wrong's. Advantage: Bird's

    BOL !!

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadGnOmens:


    Not saying he did it at all, I just mean if he didn't prevent it........ Same logic as thinking he actually has a hand in who wins and loses....... Both seem ridiculous to me.....


    Brotherman, No blow, just that good goodie green...... Helps me to crystalize my thoughts about a topic if I have to write it out.... 




    PS To ALL....... THREAD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD, ALL ABOUT FOOTBALL MATCH-UPS!!!! SATAN DECIDES GAMES, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT, COMON RAY

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    Not saying he did it at all, I just mean if he didn't prevent it........ Same logic as thinking he actually has a hand in who wins and loses....... Both seem ridiculous to me.....


    Brotherman, No blow, just that good goodie green...... Helps me to crystalize my thoughts about a topic if I have to write it out.... 




    PS To ALL....... THREAD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD, ALL ABOUT FOOTBALL MATCH-UPS!!!! SATAN DECIDES GAMES, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT, COMON RAY

     
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    Thanks fellas, hope ray didn't use all his juice just getting the crew to the big dance, We will see!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadGnOmens:

    …..But don't tell Ray Lewis that, we might miss out on the greatest Disney movie ever made that has to uncomfortably brush over a double homicide!





    yea... it really is an uncomfortable situation... i love the heart that Ray Lewis the football player brings to the field... but that will NEVER be enough for me to look beyond the fact that he killed someone, and set up some of his people for life to cover for him...


    anybody who does not believe that is what happened, is shockingly unevolved to have lived as long as they already have... these are the same idiots who don't believe Kobe or Big Ben raped women...
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    …..But don't tell Ray Lewis that, we might miss out on the greatest Disney movie ever made that has to uncomfortably brush over a double homicide!





    yea... it really is an uncomfortable situation... i love the heart that Ray Lewis the football player brings to the field... but that will NEVER be enough for me to look beyond the fact that he killed someone, and set up some of his people for life to cover for him...


    anybody who does not believe that is what happened, is shockingly unevolved to have lived as long as they already have... these are the same idiots who don't believe Kobe or Big Ben raped women...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadGnOmens:


    PS To ALL....... THREAD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD, ALL ABOUT FOOTBALL MATCH-UPS!!!! SATAN DECIDES GAMES, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT, COMON RAY



    actually i think very few people seem to know that... but i agree!  God has nothing to do with football...
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    PS To ALL....... THREAD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD, ALL ABOUT FOOTBALL MATCH-UPS!!!! SATAN DECIDES GAMES, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT, COMON RAY



    actually i think very few people seem to know that... but i agree!  God has nothing to do with football...
     
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    yea... it really is an uncomfortable situation... i love the heart that Ray Lewis the football player brings to the field... but that will NEVER be enough for me to look beyond the fact that he killed someone, and set up some of his people for life to cover for him...


    anybody who does not believe that is what happened, is shockingly unevolved to have lived as long as they already have... these are the same idiots who don't believe Kobe or Big Ben raped women...

    It was a bad attempt at a joke,,,,, I hope he did kill those people, what difference does it make??? They are dead regardless and he is a completely different person than who he was during the situation you are referring too, rehabilitation is supposed to be the end game for the system anyway folks....... 

    BUT SERIOUSLY!! THIS IS A FOOTBALL THREAD!!!! darn ALL THE BULLSHIT!!!! I DONT CARE IF HE KILLS HIS MOMMA THE NIGHT BEFORE!!!!!!! This whole write up was focused football players and how they matchup on the field, everything else is for skip bayless and apparently far to many people on covers!!! ENOUGH I SAY!!!!!!
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    yea... it really is an uncomfortable situation... i love the heart that Ray Lewis the football player brings to the field... but that will NEVER be enough for me to look beyond the fact that he killed someone, and set up some of his people for life to cover for him...


    anybody who does not believe that is what happened, is shockingly unevolved to have lived as long as they already have... these are the same idiots who don't believe Kobe or Big Ben raped women...

    It was a bad attempt at a joke,,,,, I hope he did kill those people, what difference does it make??? They are dead regardless and he is a completely different person than who he was during the situation you are referring too, rehabilitation is supposed to be the end game for the system anyway folks....... 

    BUT SERIOUSLY!! THIS IS A FOOTBALL THREAD!!!! darn ALL THE BULLSHIT!!!! I DONT CARE IF HE KILLS HIS MOMMA THE NIGHT BEFORE!!!!!!! This whole write up was focused football players and how they matchup on the field, everything else is for skip bayless and apparently far to many people on covers!!! ENOUGH I SAY!!!!!!
     
     
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    you didn't honestly think you were going to make a thread that starts the way you started this one, and not have people comment on Ray Lewis' involvement in the murder... did you?
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