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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 2:47 PM ET #26

    Offensively:

    Yards per play:  2010: 5.3        2011: 5.3
    3rd down %:      2010: 31.92%  2011: 31.07%
    Red zone %:     2010: 47.62%  2011: 44.83%


    Defensively:

    Yards per play:  2010: 5.1          2011: 5.1
    3rd down %:      2010: 38.7%      2011: 33.9%
    Red zone%:      2010: 47.2%      2011: 35.0%


    Yards per game:   2010: 313.3   2011: 311.1
    Yards allowed:     2010: 327.8   2011: 325.8
    Difference:           2010: -14.5    2011: -14.7




    San Francisco is the EXACT SAME TEAM that finished last season 6-10. The only difference is they are 2011's "magic carpet ride team". Every year there is a team that catches every break in the book and covers almost every week, last year it was Atlanta. This year that team is San Francisco. They are 7-1 because of turnovers and a very nice schedule. That's it. Plain and simple. They aren't any better than last year, this year they are just catching the breaks. They are already +12 in turnovers which would put them on pace for I believe the 3rd best ratio in the last 10 years. They have already recovered 9 fumbles (the flukiest stat in the game) which is more than all of last season.

    Sure they beat Tampa and Detroit but let's be honest neither of those young teams were in a position to compete at their best after both playing in and winning their first primetime home games in forever, especially Tampa Bay flying west on a short week. The Eagles gave that game away (fumble at the end and that horrible Ronnie Brown fumble at the goal line). The two Top 10 offenses they've faced this year have dumped 470 and 513 yards on this "great defense" but they also committed 5 turnovers.

    San Fran is the biggest fraud in the league and it's not close. This week the ride may continue again as they get the Giants cross-country in their 2nd straight road game after coming back to beat the Pats. It's very tough to go against "magic carpet teams".
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    Offensively:

    Yards per play:  2010: 5.3        2011: 5.3
    3rd down %:      2010: 31.92%  2011: 31.07%
    Red zone %:     2010: 47.62%  2011: 44.83%


    Defensively:

    Yards per play:  2010: 5.1          2011: 5.1
    3rd down %:      2010: 38.7%      2011: 33.9%
    Red zone%:      2010: 47.2%      2011: 35.0%


    Yards per game:   2010: 313.3   2011: 311.1
    Yards allowed:     2010: 327.8   2011: 325.8
    Difference:           2010: -14.5    2011: -14.7




    San Francisco is the EXACT SAME TEAM that finished last season 6-10. The only difference is they are 2011's "magic carpet ride team". Every year there is a team that catches every break in the book and covers almost every week, last year it was Atlanta. This year that team is San Francisco. They are 7-1 because of turnovers and a very nice schedule. That's it. Plain and simple. They aren't any better than last year, this year they are just catching the breaks. They are already +12 in turnovers which would put them on pace for I believe the 3rd best ratio in the last 10 years. They have already recovered 9 fumbles (the flukiest stat in the game) which is more than all of last season.

    Sure they beat Tampa and Detroit but let's be honest neither of those young teams were in a position to compete at their best after both playing in and winning their first primetime home games in forever, especially Tampa Bay flying west on a short week. The Eagles gave that game away (fumble at the end and that horrible Ronnie Brown fumble at the goal line). The two Top 10 offenses they've faced this year have dumped 470 and 513 yards on this "great defense" but they also committed 5 turnovers.

    San Fran is the biggest fraud in the league and it's not close. This week the ride may continue again as they get the Giants cross-country in their 2nd straight road game after coming back to beat the Pats. It's very tough to go against "magic carpet teams".
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 2:55 PM ET #27

    Catching breaks is what's it's all about...
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    Catching breaks is what's it's all about...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 2:58 PM ET #28

    49ers Do not Allow Big Plays, Explosive Plays, Momentum Plays, and play the most conservative defense in the league...

    This Game is a true test for the Giants who haven't shown they are capable of winning a grind out against a quality defense Since Week 4 of 2010....


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    49ers Do not Allow Big Plays, Explosive Plays, Momentum Plays, and play the most conservative defense in the league...

    This Game is a true test for the Giants who haven't shown they are capable of winning a grind out against a quality defense Since Week 4 of 2010....


     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 3:42 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:

    Offensively:

    Yards per play:  2010: 5.3        2011: 5.3
    3rd down %:      2010: 31.92%  2011: 31.07%
    Red zone %:     2010: 47.62%  2011: 44.83%


    Defensively:

    Yards per play:  2010: 5.1          2011: 5.1
    3rd down %:      2010: 38.7%      2011: 33.9%
    Red zone%:      2010: 47.2%      2011: 35.0%


    Yards per game:   2010: 313.3   2011: 311.1
    Yards allowed:     2010: 327.8   2011: 325.8
    Difference:           2010: -14.5    2011: -14.7




    San Francisco is the EXACT SAME TEAM that finished last season 6-10. The only difference is they are 2011's "magic carpet ride team". Every year there is a team that catches every break in the book and covers almost every week, last year it was Atlanta. This year that team is San Francisco. They are 7-1 because of turnovers and a very nice schedule. That's it. Plain and simple. They aren't any better than last year, this year they are just catching the breaks. They are already +12 in turnovers which would put them on pace for I believe the 3rd best ratio in the last 10 years. They have already recovered 9 fumbles (the flukiest stat in the game) which is more than all of last season.

    Sure they beat Tampa and Detroit but let's be honest neither of those young teams were in a position to compete at their best after both playing in and winning their first primetime home games in forever, especially Tampa Bay flying west on a short week. The Eagles gave that game away (fumble at the end and that horrible Ronnie Brown fumble at the goal line). The two Top 10 offenses they've faced this year have dumped 470 and 513 yards on this "great defense" but they also committed 5 turnovers.

    San Fran is the biggest fraud in the league and it's not close. This week the ride may continue again as they get the Giants cross-country in their 2nd straight road game after coming back to beat the Pats. It's very tough to go against "magic carpet teams".


    Are you the same idiot who said they would not win more than 4 games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:

    Offensively:

    Yards per play:  2010: 5.3        2011: 5.3
    3rd down %:      2010: 31.92%  2011: 31.07%
    Red zone %:     2010: 47.62%  2011: 44.83%


    Defensively:

    Yards per play:  2010: 5.1          2011: 5.1
    3rd down %:      2010: 38.7%      2011: 33.9%
    Red zone%:      2010: 47.2%      2011: 35.0%


    Yards per game:   2010: 313.3   2011: 311.1
    Yards allowed:     2010: 327.8   2011: 325.8
    Difference:           2010: -14.5    2011: -14.7




    San Francisco is the EXACT SAME TEAM that finished last season 6-10. The only difference is they are 2011's "magic carpet ride team". Every year there is a team that catches every break in the book and covers almost every week, last year it was Atlanta. This year that team is San Francisco. They are 7-1 because of turnovers and a very nice schedule. That's it. Plain and simple. They aren't any better than last year, this year they are just catching the breaks. They are already +12 in turnovers which would put them on pace for I believe the 3rd best ratio in the last 10 years. They have already recovered 9 fumbles (the flukiest stat in the game) which is more than all of last season.

    Sure they beat Tampa and Detroit but let's be honest neither of those young teams were in a position to compete at their best after both playing in and winning their first primetime home games in forever, especially Tampa Bay flying west on a short week. The Eagles gave that game away (fumble at the end and that horrible Ronnie Brown fumble at the goal line). The two Top 10 offenses they've faced this year have dumped 470 and 513 yards on this "great defense" but they also committed 5 turnovers.

    San Fran is the biggest fraud in the league and it's not close. This week the ride may continue again as they get the Giants cross-country in their 2nd straight road game after coming back to beat the Pats. It's very tough to go against "magic carpet teams".


    Are you the same idiot who said they would not win more than 4 games?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 3:53 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Niners13:



    Are you the same idiot who said they would not win more than 4 games?


    No. Aren't you the same idiot who said the Lions would finish last in the division?
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    Are you the same idiot who said they would not win more than 4 games?


    No. Aren't you the same idiot who said the Lions would finish last in the division?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 4:27 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:



    No. Aren't you the same idiot who said the Lions would finish last in the division?

    I love it.  With you on the Giants.  I have very little faith that Alex Smith performance this year should be the expectation, it's more like the fluke.  The last 3 years are the expectation.  
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    No. Aren't you the same idiot who said the Lions would finish last in the division?

    I love it.  With you on the Giants.  I have very little faith that Alex Smith performance this year should be the expectation, it's more like the fluke.  The last 3 years are the expectation.  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 5:27 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by grins1010:


    I love it.  With you on the Giants.  I have very little faith that Alex Smith performance this year should be the expectation, it's more like the fluke.  The last 3 years are the expectation.  


    I can't go against magic carpet ride teams. I've bled money all year but I've already gone 0-2 betting against SF this year before I figured it out. Need to wait until later in the year in the absolute right spot (usually the playoffs) when the line value is at it's peak and then UNLOAD.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grins1010:


    I love it.  With you on the Giants.  I have very little faith that Alex Smith performance this year should be the expectation, it's more like the fluke.  The last 3 years are the expectation.  


    I can't go against magic carpet ride teams. I've bled money all year but I've already gone 0-2 betting against SF this year before I figured it out. Need to wait until later in the year in the absolute right spot (usually the playoffs) when the line value is at it's peak and then UNLOAD.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 6:28 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:



    I can't go against magic carpet ride teams. I've bled money all year but I've already gone 0-2 betting against SF this year before I figured it out. Need to wait until later in the year in the absolute right spot (usually the playoffs) when the line value is at it's peak and then UNLOAD.


     - I am also waiting to the very same agianst the Packers

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    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:



    I can't go against magic carpet ride teams. I've bled money all year but I've already gone 0-2 betting against SF this year before I figured it out. Need to wait until later in the year in the absolute right spot (usually the playoffs) when the line value is at it's peak and then UNLOAD.


     - I am also waiting to the very same agianst the Packers

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 6:50 PM ET #34

    final score sf 20-ny 17    giants cover
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 8:04 PM ET #35

    niners is a niners fan also so u cant take what he says seriously 
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    niners is a niners fan also so u cant take what he says seriously 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 10:26 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by AgainstDaConsen:

    49ers Do not Allow Big Plays, Explosive Plays, Momentum Plays, and play the most conservative defense in the league...
     

    I am pretty sure in OT in week 2 against the Cowboys they gave up about as big a play as a team possibly could in a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgainstDaConsen:

    49ers Do not Allow Big Plays, Explosive Plays, Momentum Plays, and play the most conservative defense in the league...
     

    I am pretty sure in OT in week 2 against the Cowboys they gave up about as big a play as a team possibly could in a game.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 10:36 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:



    No. Aren't you the same idiot who said the Lions would finish last in the division?


    No I either said they won't make the playoffs or/and win less games than the 49ers.

    You and 100 others had Rams winning the division and endless other drivel. Reading is beyond laughable like your post is laughable now.


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    No. Aren't you the same idiot who said the Lions would finish last in the division?


    No I either said they won't make the playoffs or/and win less games than the 49ers.

    You and 100 others had Rams winning the division and endless other drivel. Reading is beyond laughable like your post is laughable now.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 10:38 PM ET #38

    All you squares can wait a few days and you might get +4.
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    All you squares can wait a few days and you might get +4.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2011 - 10:42 PM ET #39

    Comparing stupid stats to last year means nothing as they only lost by 3 points to Philly, Atlanta, Saints.

    NFL is a game of inches/deflections/turnovers/luck, they were good last year too.  Bad coaching/execution.

    A team that does not give up a 100 yard rusher in like 30 games is a fraud? 0 tds rushing allowed... you know how often that happens?

    Bitches like you were so confident Niners would be playing for Luck Sweepstakes.

    btw, Giants are the frauds, they'll be lucky to make the playoffs,
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    Comparing stupid stats to last year means nothing as they only lost by 3 points to Philly, Atlanta, Saints.

    NFL is a game of inches/deflections/turnovers/luck, they were good last year too.  Bad coaching/execution.

    A team that does not give up a 100 yard rusher in like 30 games is a fraud? 0 tds rushing allowed... you know how often that happens?

    Bitches like you were so confident Niners would be playing for Luck Sweepstakes.

    btw, Giants are the frauds, they'll be lucky to make the playoffs,
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 12:38 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Eli isn't playing the Patriot defense this week. I just want to hear the media harping on how good he's playing, blah, blah, blah. I just saw the end zone interception he threw against the Patriots with 10-3 lead. Giants have played an extremely weak schedule, got beat by the Seahawks and Redskins and almost got beat by Dolphins. I'll take my chances with SF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    Eli isn't playing the Patriot defense this week. I just want to hear the media harping on how good he's playing, blah, blah, blah. I just saw the end zone interception he threw against the Patriots with 10-3 lead. Giants have played an extremely weak schedule, got beat by the Seahawks and Redskins and almost got beat by Dolphins. I'll take my chances with SF.

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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 12:48 AM ET #41

    So according to ANDARMAC teams don't improve with good coaching? Patrick Willis is a helluva player and now he has a supporting cast.

    I've watched several 49er games. They're a good team, especially defensively. They beat an undefeated team (detroit 5-0) in their house in a closely contested game. I'm not claiming their going to the Super Bowl but they play smart and physical.

    I wonder if Seattle will go into SF this year and HANDILY beat them like they did the Giants as a 10 pt underdog? We'll see but I see no reason they can.

    I'm really looking forward to this game, I'm hoping the NY money pushes this line down (which I think it will). 
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    So according to ANDARMAC teams don't improve with good coaching? Patrick Willis is a helluva player and now he has a supporting cast.

    I've watched several 49er games. They're a good team, especially defensively. They beat an undefeated team (detroit 5-0) in their house in a closely contested game. I'm not claiming their going to the Super Bowl but they play smart and physical.

    I wonder if Seattle will go into SF this year and HANDILY beat them like they did the Giants as a 10 pt underdog? We'll see but I see no reason they can.

    I'm really looking forward to this game, I'm hoping the NY money pushes this line down (which I think it will). 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 12:57 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by Niners13:

    Comparing stupid stats to last year means nothing as they only lost by 3 points to Philly, Atlanta, Saints.

    NFL is a game of inches/deflections/turnovers/luck, they were good last year too.  Bad coaching/execution.

    A team that does not give up a 100 yard rusher in like 30 games is a fraud? 0 tds rushing allowed... you know how often that happens?

    Bitches like you were so confident Niners would be playing for Luck Sweepstakes.

    btw, Giants are the frauds, they'll be lucky to make the playoffs,


    Really? They are actually worse in the redzone and on 3rd down than they were last year albeit marginally.

    I'd be willing to bet no team in NFL history has ever been 7-1 and actually outgained.

    Maybe they were an 8-8 team last year but they certainly aren't a 7-1 team and #2 in the league like all these sites have them in their power rankings. That is flat out laughable.

    Enjoy the magic carpet ride. I hope they cover again this week. It will only increase the profile of a highly overrated team down the line.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Niners13:

    Comparing stupid stats to last year means nothing as they only lost by 3 points to Philly, Atlanta, Saints.

    NFL is a game of inches/deflections/turnovers/luck, they were good last year too.  Bad coaching/execution.

    A team that does not give up a 100 yard rusher in like 30 games is a fraud? 0 tds rushing allowed... you know how often that happens?

    Bitches like you were so confident Niners would be playing for Luck Sweepstakes.

    btw, Giants are the frauds, they'll be lucky to make the playoffs,


    Really? They are actually worse in the redzone and on 3rd down than they were last year albeit marginally.

    I'd be willing to bet no team in NFL history has ever been 7-1 and actually outgained.

    Maybe they were an 8-8 team last year but they certainly aren't a 7-1 team and #2 in the league like all these sites have them in their power rankings. That is flat out laughable.

    Enjoy the magic carpet ride. I hope they cover again this week. It will only increase the profile of a highly overrated team down the line.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 12:58 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    So according to ANDARMAC teams don't improve with good coaching? Patrick Willis is a helluva player and now he has a supporting cast.

    I've watched several 49er games. They're a good team, especially defensively. They beat an undefeated team (detroit 5-0) in their house in a closely contested game. I'm not claiming their going to the Super Bowl but they play smart and physical.

    I wonder if Seattle will go into SF this year and HANDILY beat them like they did the Giants as a 10 pt underdog? We'll see but I see no reason they can.

    I'm really looking forward to this game, I'm hoping the NY money pushes this line down (which I think it will). 


    The important numbers say they are exactly the same team. They are just catching the breaks. It's really that simple. What happens when they run out of good luck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    So according to ANDARMAC teams don't improve with good coaching? Patrick Willis is a helluva player and now he has a supporting cast.

    I've watched several 49er games. They're a good team, especially defensively. They beat an undefeated team (detroit 5-0) in their house in a closely contested game. I'm not claiming their going to the Super Bowl but they play smart and physical.

    I wonder if Seattle will go into SF this year and HANDILY beat them like they did the Giants as a 10 pt underdog? We'll see but I see no reason they can.

    I'm really looking forward to this game, I'm hoping the NY money pushes this line down (which I think it will). 


    The important numbers say they are exactly the same team. They are just catching the breaks. It's really that simple. What happens when they run out of good luck?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 12:59 AM ET #44

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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 2:30 AM ET #46

    No way can I trust a team that lost to the Skins and Seahawks at home to cover a 3.5 spread against a 7-1 team whoose D is ranked #1.

     

    Niners rolls AGAIN.

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    No way can I trust a team that lost to the Skins and Seahawks at home to cover a 3.5 spread against a 7-1 team whoose D is ranked #1.

     

    Niners rolls AGAIN.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 3:14 AM ET #47

    Good luck only goes so far unless you can get a guy go catch a ball on top of his head with Rodney Harrison draped all over him. 

    SF beat the hell out of Philly in the second half a month ago. Frank Gore isn't lucky, Patrick Willis isn't lucky, their pretty good. Good luck with Eli and co.

    WTF does catching breaks mean? They beat Detroit while undefeated because they were lucky? This team is 8-0 ATS, if that's due to good luck, I wish I was lucky enough to be on them for the entire ride. But to get off for the Giants (beaten by SEA & WASH) please.
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    Good luck only goes so far unless you can get a guy go catch a ball on top of his head with Rodney Harrison draped all over him. 

    SF beat the hell out of Philly in the second half a month ago. Frank Gore isn't lucky, Patrick Willis isn't lucky, their pretty good. Good luck with Eli and co.

    WTF does catching breaks mean? They beat Detroit while undefeated because they were lucky? This team is 8-0 ATS, if that's due to good luck, I wish I was lucky enough to be on them for the entire ride. But to get off for the Giants (beaten by SEA & WASH) please.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 3:39 AM ET #48

    49ERS cant fade the trend especially when their defense have been playing solid.
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 3:42 AM ET #49

    49ers offense has been consistant with the running and passing plays and their defense has been playin lights out!!! SF-3.5 wins by a TD
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    49ers offense has been consistant with the running and passing plays and their defense has been playin lights out!!! SF-3.5 wins by a TD
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 6:15 AM ET #50

    49ers are covering machine this year however, do not count out them giants. 

    They are 3-1 ATS when playing away. 

    Hope no one get scared by that stats.   This is a good game to watch and if giants win SU, what an upset game it will be. 

    I think the coaching staff has a big part to the success of them 49ers this year.  Come on now, alex smith and frank gore?  People are losing their games to make these guys look like superstars. 

    Joe montana and roger craig, now that's real superstar status there.  I think public's money is going to ride on them giants after they see how giants slayed NE and their weak defense.   49ers still get no respect by anyone for real.  Even I,  a 49ers local native do not think they are that good.  I see them like the sf giants.  One year, world series, the next year, what the hell happen there.    Unstable teams are no good but every  year, there is that one team that stayed under the radar until they hit the playoffs and beyond and then people will recognize to who they are. 





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    49ers are covering machine this year however, do not count out them giants. 

    They are 3-1 ATS when playing away. 

    Hope no one get scared by that stats.   This is a good game to watch and if giants win SU, what an upset game it will be. 

    I think the coaching staff has a big part to the success of them 49ers this year.  Come on now, alex smith and frank gore?  People are losing their games to make these guys look like superstars. 

    Joe montana and roger craig, now that's real superstar status there.  I think public's money is going to ride on them giants after they see how giants slayed NE and their weak defense.   49ers still get no respect by anyone for real.  Even I,  a 49ers local native do not think they are that good.  I see them like the sf giants.  One year, world series, the next year, what the hell happen there.    Unstable teams are no good but every  year, there is that one team that stayed under the radar until they hit the playoffs and beyond and then people will recognize to who they are. 





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