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    For all questioning the pass call....

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    LETGOPACK1234
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 9:06 AM ET #1

    And calling fix   Can I have some drugs too???

    Lynch had 5 runs this year from the 1yd line, and he scored on ONE of them...

    1 for 5 on runs from the 1 yd line...its amazing how people just assume he was going to walk in.

    If they run the ball and dont score, now you are calling a timeout with 10 seconds left. 

    Its amazing how people assume it was a guaranteed TD if they run the ball....let alone the game was "fixed" because they didnt...

    If this game was "fixed" why would they even get down to the goalline??

    This site is awesome and wonder what some of these people do during the day

    Thanks for my largest win ever $8k on NE  Seattle was lucky to be here, and GB would have smoked NE

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    And calling fix   Can I have some drugs too???

    Lynch had 5 runs this year from the 1yd line, and he scored on ONE of them...

    1 for 5 on runs from the 1 yd line...its amazing how people just assume he was going to walk in.

    If they run the ball and dont score, now you are calling a timeout with 10 seconds left. 

    Its amazing how people assume it was a guaranteed TD if they run the ball....let alone the game was "fixed" because they didnt...

    If this game was "fixed" why would they even get down to the goalline??

    This site is awesome and wonder what some of these people do during the day

    Thanks for my largest win ever $8k on NE  Seattle was lucky to be here, and GB would have smoked NE

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 9:07 AM ET #2

    how many of those 5 runs were vs the pats?
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    how many of those 5 runs were vs the pats?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 9:09 AM ET #3

    Probably the dumbest thing I have heard anyone say on here, even dumber then the play call..

     

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    Probably the dumbest thing I have heard anyone say on here, even dumber then the play call..

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 9:10 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by tinoker55:

    Probably the dumbest thing I have heard anyone say on here, even dumber then the play call..

     

    This has been said to everyone was said the pass wasnt a bad call

    Way to be creative....

    If the pass is complete, Wilson is the hero again...now its the worst play call ever...

    Amazing how the world works 

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinoker55:

    Probably the dumbest thing I have heard anyone say on here, even dumber then the play call..

     

    This has been said to everyone was said the pass wasnt a bad call

    Way to be creative....

    If the pass is complete, Wilson is the hero again...now its the worst play call ever...

    Amazing how the world works 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 9:33 AM ET #5

    i agree with the pass play cuz lynch likely would have fumbled and it would have been returned the other way for 99 yds and killed seattle teaser bets 
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    i agree with the pass play cuz lynch likely would have fumbled and it would have been returned the other way for 99 yds and killed seattle teaser bets 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 9:39 AM ET #6

    Basing a call on 5 previous plays!!!

    Nope!!!

    Wether it worked or not is not exactly the point. Before the ball was even snapped it was a bad play call.
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    Basing a call on 5 previous plays!!!

    Nope!!!

    Wether it worked or not is not exactly the point. Before the ball was even snapped it was a bad play call.
     
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    As stated above, Lynch is not a sure thing from the one.  This is because the other team knows he's getting the ball and keys on him.  As soon as he touched the ball, three Pats would have been nailing him.

    Pass was the right call.  Surprise the D.  And if it's incomplete, you still can give it to Lynch.  And if he doesn't make it, you still have a TO and another shot.  You can't anticipate an interception.  Pass was the right call.

    That's why Carroll is a head coach and all the yahoos saying it was the worst call ever are not. 

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    As stated above, Lynch is not a sure thing from the one.  This is because the other team knows he's getting the ball and keys on him.  As soon as he touched the ball, three Pats would have been nailing him.

    Pass was the right call.  Surprise the D.  And if it's incomplete, you still can give it to Lynch.  And if he doesn't make it, you still have a TO and another shot.  You can't anticipate an interception.  Pass was the right call.

    That's why Carroll is a head coach and all the yahoos saying it was the worst call ever are not. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodyShredder:

    As stated above, Lynch is not a sure thing from the one.  This is because the other team knows he's getting the ball and keys on him.  As soon as he touched the ball, three Pats would have been nailing him.

    Pass was the right call.  Surprise the D.  And if it's incomplete, you still can give it to Lynch.  And if he doesn't make it, you still have a TO and another shot.  You can't anticipate an interception.  Pass was the right call.

    That's why Carroll is a head coach and all the yahoos saying it was the worst call ever are not. 


    I do not think that I have heard anyone, media, players, coaches, former coaches etc. say it was the right call.

    I have heard some make an attempt to justify it but at the end they all end up saying it was not the right call.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodyShredder:

    As stated above, Lynch is not a sure thing from the one.  This is because the other team knows he's getting the ball and keys on him.  As soon as he touched the ball, three Pats would have been nailing him.

    Pass was the right call.  Surprise the D.  And if it's incomplete, you still can give it to Lynch.  And if he doesn't make it, you still have a TO and another shot.  You can't anticipate an interception.  Pass was the right call.

    That's why Carroll is a head coach and all the yahoos saying it was the worst call ever are not. 


    I do not think that I have heard anyone, media, players, coaches, former coaches etc. say it was the right call.

    I have heard some make an attempt to justify it but at the end they all end up saying it was not the right call.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 10:38 AM ET #9

    My guy is from North Oakland. You seen the catch the play before. They were destined to win with him at MVP. The powers at be were not ready to let someone who they try to paint out as a 'thug' win MVP 
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    My guy is from North Oakland. You seen the catch the play before. They were destined to win with him at MVP. The powers at be were not ready to let someone who they try to paint out as a 'thug' win MVP 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 10:38 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodyShredder:

    As stated above, Lynch is not a sure thing from the one.  This is because the other team knows he's getting the ball and keys on him.  As soon as he touched the ball, three Pats would have been nailing him.

    Pass was the right call.  Surprise the D.  And if it's incomplete, you still can give it to Lynch.  And if he doesn't make it, you still have a TO and another shot.  You can't anticipate an interception.  Pass was the right call.

    That's why Carroll is a head coach and all the yahoos saying it was the worst call ever are not. 

     

    Exactly

    A pass play like that is incomplete or a TD 99 of 100 times...its just this one time and defender made a GREAT play...

    Seattle ran the ball on 3rd and 2 or 3rd and 1 4 times in the game, and only converted 1 time...

    They were 1 for 4 in this game alone....just amazing everyone assumes he scores

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodyShredder:

    As stated above, Lynch is not a sure thing from the one.  This is because the other team knows he's getting the ball and keys on him.  As soon as he touched the ball, three Pats would have been nailing him.

    Pass was the right call.  Surprise the D.  And if it's incomplete, you still can give it to Lynch.  And if he doesn't make it, you still have a TO and another shot.  You can't anticipate an interception.  Pass was the right call.

    That's why Carroll is a head coach and all the yahoos saying it was the worst call ever are not. 

     

    Exactly

    A pass play like that is incomplete or a TD 99 of 100 times...its just this one time and defender made a GREAT play...

    Seattle ran the ball on 3rd and 2 or 3rd and 1 4 times in the game, and only converted 1 time...

    They were 1 for 4 in this game alone....just amazing everyone assumes he scores

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 10:39 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:



    CALLING YOU TOTALLY FULLOFSHIT IS JUST A COMPLIMENT FOR FUKIN TOOLS LIKE YOU.  BUT SHAKING YOUR OWN HAND WHILE BLOWING YOURSELF ON THE INTERNET?  JUST DISGUSTING

    You have serious personal and life issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:



    CALLING YOU TOTALLY FULLOFSHIT IS JUST A COMPLIMENT FOR FUKIN TOOLS LIKE YOU.  BUT SHAKING YOUR OWN HAND WHILE BLOWING YOURSELF ON THE INTERNET?  JUST DISGUSTING

    You have serious personal and life issues

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 10:51 AM ET #12

    "With 6 seconds left before half instead of kicking a FG, Russel throws a TD. No one said it was a dumb call b/c the play worked. If Russel throws a TD instead of the pick everyone would say great call. The real fact is Butler made a great play. What would you morons be saying if they handed off to Lynch and he fumbled"

     

    Great post from someone else on a different thread.  The play before halftime....it was a "great" call because they got a TD....what if it got picked or tipped up and the clock ran out....everybody would have been saying it was an awful call to not kick the fg....

    Just like this play to end the game.  Everyone in the world thought a run was coming, that's why you pass.  It didn't work out, and the CB made a GREAT play....nothing less

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    "With 6 seconds left before half instead of kicking a FG, Russel throws a TD. No one said it was a dumb call b/c the play worked. If Russel throws a TD instead of the pick everyone would say great call. The real fact is Butler made a great play. What would you morons be saying if they handed off to Lynch and he fumbled"

     

    Great post from someone else on a different thread.  The play before halftime....it was a "great" call because they got a TD....what if it got picked or tipped up and the clock ran out....everybody would have been saying it was an awful call to not kick the fg....

    Just like this play to end the game.  Everyone in the world thought a run was coming, that's why you pass.  It didn't work out, and the CB made a GREAT play....nothing less

     
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    I love how you are using a 5 play sample size from this season.  That is completely meaningless.   Also, why on earth would they go shotgun?  As soon as he went shotgun, I immediately knew that was a horrible decision, and only a bad thing could happen from it.  In that spot, you either run, or do NOT go shotgun, and run play-action, simple.
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    I love how you are using a 5 play sample size from this season.  That is completely meaningless.   Also, why on earth would they go shotgun?  As soon as he went shotgun, I immediately knew that was a horrible decision, and only a bad thing could happen from it.  In that spot, you either run, or do NOT go shotgun, and run play-action, simple.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gee_Gee:

    I love how you are using a 5 play sample size from this season.  That is completely meaningless.   Also, why on earth would they go shotgun?  As soon as he went shotgun, I immediately knew that was a horrible decision, and only a bad thing could happen from it.  In that spot, you either run, or do NOT go shotgun, and run play-action, simple.

     

    Well, what kind of sample should we use?  It was the entire season, I cant make up a stat...

    What about during the game, they were 1 for 4 on 3rd down 2 or 3rd down 1 and run plays??

    They were 25% in this game alone running it on that distance???

    As for shotgun....if they ran the ball it would have been from shotgun anyways because it would have been a read-option play

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gee_Gee:

    I love how you are using a 5 play sample size from this season.  That is completely meaningless.   Also, why on earth would they go shotgun?  As soon as he went shotgun, I immediately knew that was a horrible decision, and only a bad thing could happen from it.  In that spot, you either run, or do NOT go shotgun, and run play-action, simple.

     

    Well, what kind of sample should we use?  It was the entire season, I cant make up a stat...

    What about during the game, they were 1 for 4 on 3rd down 2 or 3rd down 1 and run plays??

    They were 25% in this game alone running it on that distance???

    As for shotgun....if they ran the ball it would have been from shotgun anyways because it would have been a read-option play

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 11:19 AM ET #15

    I don't know why everyone is still crying. That was a great call and I'm  a Seahawks fan. New England was not ready for that pass. 1. Russel did not throw it hard. 2. Baldwin did not attack the ball hard. It's like he was thinking it would fall in his lap. 3. The defender attacked the ball hard and wanted it more. The better team won. So please everyone stop crying and making excuses. I'm  also ashamed of my team fighting like a bunch of poor sports too. GO SEAHAWKS.
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    I don't know why everyone is still crying. That was a great call and I'm  a Seahawks fan. New England was not ready for that pass. 1. Russel did not throw it hard. 2. Baldwin did not attack the ball hard. It's like he was thinking it would fall in his lap. 3. The defender attacked the ball hard and wanted it more. The better team won. So please everyone stop crying and making excuses. I'm  also ashamed of my team fighting like a bunch of poor sports too. GO SEAHAWKS.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 11:23 AM ET #16

    Seattle was lucky to be here, and GB would have smoked NE

     You're embarrassing yourself.
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    Seattle was lucky to be here, and GB would have smoked NE

     You're embarrassing yourself.
     
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    So why not boot leg Wilson on 2nd down and run beast mode on 3rd or 4th, also so easy to say you won 8 k monopoly money after the game and that GB would have smoked NE , you have to make it to the big game 1st and Rodgers was beat up, Brady would make him look like a rookie.
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    So why not boot leg Wilson on 2nd down and run beast mode on 3rd or 4th, also so easy to say you won 8 k monopoly money after the game and that GB would have smoked NE , you have to make it to the big game 1st and Rodgers was beat up, Brady would make him look like a rookie.
     
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    Sea was trying to go against the grain with the pass. If they catch it, great. If they drop it they can still run the ball twice with a TO.

    WR did not go after the ball as he waited for it, can't do that in this league.

    Biggest mistake on that throw:  Wilson did not throw the ball downwards. Every great QB knows that ball needs to be going towards the ground so the WR goes down with it and he's the only one that can get his hands on it. If it gets deflected it goes down, if the WR cant hold it the ball still more then likely goes down. Wilson kept that ball up and the D just made the better play.


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    Sea was trying to go against the grain with the pass. If they catch it, great. If they drop it they can still run the ball twice with a TO.

    WR did not go after the ball as he waited for it, can't do that in this league.

    Biggest mistake on that throw:  Wilson did not throw the ball downwards. Every great QB knows that ball needs to be going towards the ground so the WR goes down with it and he's the only one that can get his hands on it. If it gets deflected it goes down, if the WR cant hold it the ball still more then likely goes down. Wilson kept that ball up and the D just made the better play.


     
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    I completely agree with the above poster that Wilson made a horrible throw, and put the ball in a bad spot.  Again between running the ball with Lynch, Wilson bootleg/run, play-action, this play call is at the bottom of the list, but Wilson also compounded the bad play call and made a bad throw, game over
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    I completely agree with the above poster that Wilson made a horrible throw, and put the ball in a bad spot.  Again between running the ball with Lynch, Wilson bootleg/run, play-action, this play call is at the bottom of the list, but Wilson also compounded the bad play call and made a bad throw, game over
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 11:39 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Sea was trying to go against the grain with the pass. If they catch it, great. If they drop it they can still run the ball twice with a TO.

    WR did not go after the ball as he waited for it, can't do that in this league.

    Biggest mistake on that throw:  Wilson did not throw the ball downwards. Every great QB knows that ball needs to be going towards the ground so the WR goes down with it and he's the only one that can get his hands on it. If it gets deflected it goes down, if the WR cant hold it the ball still more then likely goes down. Wilson kept that ball up and the D just made the better play.


    Exactly....everyone was expecting run, that's why the pass was a good call.  The CB just made the better play....99 of 100 times that doesn't happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:

    Sea was trying to go against the grain with the pass. If they catch it, great. If they drop it they can still run the ball twice with a TO.

    WR did not go after the ball as he waited for it, can't do that in this league.

    Biggest mistake on that throw:  Wilson did not throw the ball downwards. Every great QB knows that ball needs to be going towards the ground so the WR goes down with it and he's the only one that can get his hands on it. If it gets deflected it goes down, if the WR cant hold it the ball still more then likely goes down. Wilson kept that ball up and the D just made the better play.


    Exactly....everyone was expecting run, that's why the pass was a good call.  The CB just made the better play....99 of 100 times that doesn't happen

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 11:40 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    And calling fix   Can I have some drugs too???

    Lynch had 5 runs this year from the 1yd line, and he scored on ONE of them...

    1 for 5 on runs from the 1 yd line...its amazing how people just assume he was going to walk in.

    If they run the ball and dont score, now you are calling a timeout with 10 seconds left. 

    Its amazing how people assume it was a guaranteed TD if they run the ball....let alone the game was "fixed" because they didnt...

    If this game was "fixed" why would they even get down to the goalline??

    This site is awesome and wonder what some of these people do during the day

    Thanks for my largest win ever $8k on NE  Seattle was lucky to be here, and GB would have smoked NE

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    And calling fix   Can I have some drugs too???

    Lynch had 5 runs this year from the 1yd line, and he scored on ONE of them...

    1 for 5 on runs from the 1 yd line...its amazing how people just assume he was going to walk in.

    If they run the ball and dont score, now you are calling a timeout with 10 seconds left. 

    Its amazing how people assume it was a guaranteed TD if they run the ball....let alone the game was "fixed" because they didnt...

    If this game was "fixed" why would they even get down to the goalline??

    This site is awesome and wonder what some of these people do during the day

    Thanks for my largest win ever $8k on NE  Seattle was lucky to be here, and GB would have smoked NE

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 11:41 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Seattle was lucky to be here, and GB would have smoked NE

     You're embarrassing yourself.

     

    It was sarcastic, but not everyone understands that word

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Seattle was lucky to be here, and GB would have smoked NE

     You're embarrassing yourself.

     

    It was sarcastic, but not everyone understands that word

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 11:41 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by pepe15:

    So why not boot leg Wilson on 2nd down and run beast mode on 3rd or 4th, also so easy to say you won 8 k monopoly money after the game and that GB would have smoked NE , you have to make it to the big game 1st and Rodgers was beat up, Brady would make him look like a rookie.

     

    Not monopoly money, but GTbets money

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepe15:

    So why not boot leg Wilson on 2nd down and run beast mode on 3rd or 4th, also so easy to say you won 8 k monopoly money after the game and that GB would have smoked NE , you have to make it to the big game 1st and Rodgers was beat up, Brady would make him look like a rookie.

     

    Not monopoly money, but GTbets money

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    "With 6 seconds left before half instead of kicking a FG, Russel throws a TD. No one said it was a dumb call b/c the play worked. If Russel throws a TD instead of the pick everyone would say great call. The real fact is Butler made a great play. What would you morons be saying if they handed off to Lynch and he fumbled"

     

    Great post from someone else on a different thread.  The play before halftime....it was a "great" call because they got a TD....what if it got picked or tipped up and the clock ran out....everybody would have been saying it was an awful call to not kick the fg....

    Just like this play to end the game.  Everyone in the world thought a run was coming, that's why you pass.  It didn't work out, and the CB made a GREAT play....nothing less


    i agree that was the wrong choice for a play but not a bad call. i can see why he did it. they wanted to surprise the pats and knew the pats defense was looking at lynch. they thought hey, throw it real quick if its incomplete, we stop the time. Butler just made an unbelievable play. IMO if butler didnt jump that play it was a TD. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    "With 6 seconds left before half instead of kicking a FG, Russel throws a TD. No one said it was a dumb call b/c the play worked. If Russel throws a TD instead of the pick everyone would say great call. The real fact is Butler made a great play. What would you morons be saying if they handed off to Lynch and he fumbled"

     

    Great post from someone else on a different thread.  The play before halftime....it was a "great" call because they got a TD....what if it got picked or tipped up and the clock ran out....everybody would have been saying it was an awful call to not kick the fg....

    Just like this play to end the game.  Everyone in the world thought a run was coming, that's why you pass.  It didn't work out, and the CB made a GREAT play....nothing less


    i agree that was the wrong choice for a play but not a bad call. i can see why he did it. they wanted to surprise the pats and knew the pats defense was looking at lynch. they thought hey, throw it real quick if its incomplete, we stop the time. Butler just made an unbelievable play. IMO if butler didnt jump that play it was a TD. 
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2015 - 11:43 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    And calling fix   Can I have some drugs too???

    Lynch had 5 runs this year from the 1yd line, and he scored on ONE of them...

    1 for 5 on runs from the 1 yd line...its amazing how people just assume he was going to walk in.

    If they run the ball and dont score, now you are calling a timeout with 10 seconds left. 

    Its amazing how people assume it was a guaranteed TD if they run the ball....let alone the game was "fixed" because they didnt...

    If this game was "fixed" why would they even get down to the goalline??

    This site is awesome and wonder what some of these people do during the day

    Thanks for my largest win ever $8k on NE  Seattle was lucky to be here, and GB would have smoked NE

    Makes perfect sense.  No need to give it to Lynch again, since he failed 4 times during season.  Let's throw a slant!!!!

    Another moron.

    If you call a timeout with 10 seconds left, do you automatically lose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    And calling fix   Can I have some drugs too???

    Lynch had 5 runs this year from the 1yd line, and he scored on ONE of them...

    1 for 5 on runs from the 1 yd line...its amazing how people just assume he was going to walk in.

    If they run the ball and dont score, now you are calling a timeout with 10 seconds left. 

    Its amazing how people assume it was a guaranteed TD if they run the ball....let alone the game was "fixed" because they didnt...

    If this game was "fixed" why would they even get down to the goalline??

    This site is awesome and wonder what some of these people do during the day

    Thanks for my largest win ever $8k on NE  Seattle was lucky to be here, and GB would have smoked NE

    Makes perfect sense.  No need to give it to Lynch again, since he failed 4 times during season.  Let's throw a slant!!!!

    Another moron.

    If you call a timeout with 10 seconds left, do you automatically lose?

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