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Aalon

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Posted: Sep. 17, 2011 - 2:12 PM ET #51

There is also the X factor of extra motivation for the Saints since they have played 3 straight games at Soldier Field since 2006 and lost all of them. From the Saints point of view (especially fans that were subject to many Katrina insults in '06), this is a game they have had circled and will be treated almost like a rivalry game.

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Posted: Sep. 17, 2011 - 2:16 PM ET #52

Quote Originally Posted by Greyhound:

Won the NFC North last year, came very close to making the Super Bowl, blow out Atlanta in the first game this year, and they were good on the road too last year.

Getting almost a TD vs the Saints?

Bears seem like a dog that could win straight up to me.

bmacattack

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Posted: Sep. 17, 2011 - 2:16 PM ET #53

Clicked on accident... Agree witcha.

MJ2345

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Posted: Sep. 17, 2011 - 2:42 PM ET #54

Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:

It's not the Bears people have no respect for, it's Cutler. The issue is if the Bears line can hold the Saint's D line.

It's obvious that Cutler can throw. He just isn't the same under pressure.

Pfft its not Cutler.He is very good if he has time to throw.So really its the offensive line.If Cutler gets any kind of protection he will light up NO

MJ2345

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Posted: Sep. 17, 2011 - 2:50 PM ET #55

LOL I love when people stick their foot in their mouth like werker!!

"Won a playoff game at home against possibly the worst playoff team in NFL history, and then knocked out by the Packers."

LMAO Wasnt it N.O lost to this worst playoff team in the first round!!

tomherst

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Posted: Sep. 17, 2011 - 3:19 PM ET #56

U guys can freakin rant and rave all u want. Cutler aint gon do shit and the saints are going to bang them out. The saints and packers are way better then the bears. Lets be real. The bears had a strong momentum going at the end of last season and that's over. Sorry guys.

bucknuts

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Posted: Sep. 17, 2011 - 5:03 PM ET #57

Bears Dline gonna kill Brees tomorrow...all of them on a private plane Peppers rented to attend Urlachers mothers funeral...like seeing stuff like this glad its my fav team...one inspired unit rallying around its captain...i hope the Bears win either way its gonna be a great game to watch..and my gambling side says take the points

Aalon

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Posted: Sep. 17, 2011 - 7:24 PM ET #58

Quote Originally Posted by bucknuts:

Bears Dline gonna kill Brees tomorrow...all of them on a private plane Peppers rented to attend Urlachers mothers funeral...like seeing stuff like this glad its my fav team...one inspired unit rallying around its captain...i hope the Bears win either way its gonna be a great game to watch..and my gambling side says take the points

In all his years with the Saints, Brees is one of the least sacked QBs in the league. "Killing" Brees just doesn't happen. Doesn't mean the Bears won't have a solid outing, but a repeat of last week is highly unlikely. Nay, impossible.

Bodogjoe

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Posted: Sep. 17, 2011 - 8:00 PM ET #59

no score saimts 37 bears 21 brees will brezze

Jay4Prez

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Posted: Sep. 17, 2011 - 8:13 PM ET #60

Quote Originally Posted by Greyhound:

Won the NFC North last year, came very close to making the Super Bowl, blow out Atlanta in the first game this year, and they were good on the road too last year.

Getting almost a TD vs the Saints?

Bears seem like a dog that could win straight up to me.

I agree with you. My numbers show Chicago much higher YPPA at 29, to NO 9. Defense is not getting credit, they could win this game SU. Chic also held the ball 6 minutes more longer than NO in first game.

GiLmo574

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Posted: Sep. 17, 2011 - 8:53 PM ET #61

You bet you're fucking ass Da Bears are gettin' dis-re-speck-ted!

I never bet on my team... but I am seriously almost tempted to do so.

Urlacher is going to be a MACHINE out there tomorrow...

But I'm also a realist knowing that Gregg Williams will be blitzing 500 times tomorrow - Matt Forte may have a HUGE day as well, fantasy owners.

GiLmo574

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Posted: Sep. 17, 2011 - 8:55 PM ET #62

Quote Originally Posted by tomherst:

U guys can freakin rant and rave all u want. Cutler aint gon do shit and the saints are going to bang them out. The saints and packers are way better then the bears. Lets be real. The bears had a strong momentum going at the end of last season and that's over. Sorry guys.

LoL!

Nice analysis.

GiLmo574

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Posted: Sep. 17, 2011 - 8:56 PM ET #63

SlinginDope

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Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 12:04 PM ET #64

In 20 seasons of watching football Cutler is the best quarter back I have seen the Bears have. He's a good player and will get better. At the same time, Drew Brees is one of the best quarter backs over those 20 seasons, period. The Saints are playing at home and are motivated. I give them the advantage.

BOL

MJ2345

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Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 12:06 PM ET #65

The line has took a big spill to 4.5 in the last half hour!!

Werker

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Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 4:31 PM ET #66

Can't say this win wasn't slightly more satisfying than average.

Aalon

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Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 5:06 PM ET #67

Gave as much inside info as I could. Atlanta is overrated and I think too many put too much stock in that Bears/Falcons game.

Saints backers...

MDAAKD

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Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 8:26 PM ET #68

Easy money. Saints rolled em up and smoked em.

Greyhound

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Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 2:01 PM ET #69

I guess they knew what they were doing with this line. The Bears O-Line is still horrible. They were in the game until that Cutler sack and fumble.

tjohnsont

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Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 2:08 PM ET #70

Capping a Bear's game is easier than most other teams. Except for this Sunday's game.

RodWoman

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Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 3:53 PM ET #71

Quote Originally Posted by Werker:

The Bears were so lucky last year it's ridiculous. Let's go through last year, game by game:

W: Detroit: Got lucky that Megatron placed the ball on the ground to nullify the game winning TD catch.

W: @Dallas: Decent win. Took advantage of Romo throwing 2 INTs

W: GB: Green Bay still reeling from their early season injuries gave up 18 penalties for 150 yards and still only lost by 3.

L: @NYG: Giants pass rush destroyed their o-line and won 17-3, with 10 sacks.

W: @Carolina: Jimmy Clausen/Matt Moore.

L: Seattle: Seahawks got 6 sacks and ran for over 100 yards to win fairly easily.

L: Washington: Deangelo Hall had 4 INTs against Cutler, basically just exploiting Cutler being Cutler.

W: @Buffalo: It was the 2010 Bills (0-8 at that point).

W: Minnesota: Favre threw 3 INTs, as he did every game last year.

W: @Miami: Nice lucky break to catch Thingpen as the Miami QB. He was hapless and Miami couldn't move the ball.

W: Philadelphia: This was their best win of the year. Quality win, no doubt about it. Not taking anything away from it.

W: @Detroit: Facing detroit with Drew Stanton as QB, another lucky break for them. Still had to come from behind in the 4th.

L: New England: Demolished, as they should have been.

W: @Minnesota: Favre went out early and Joe Webb took over. Oh yeah, Adrian Peterson was out.

W: NYJ: Solid win in a shootout with another defensive oriented team. One of two quality wins I credit them.

L: @GB: Played a gritty defensive game in a relatively respectable loss (considering they could have sat their starters) away to a division rival.

Won a playoff game at home against possibly the worst playoff team in NFL history, and then knocked out by the Packers.

In 5 of their 11 wins they played against a 2nd or 3rd string QB (not counting Vick). In another one, they played against a team that just lost their starting running back. Two others were against the Vikes at full strength and the Bills; hardly impressive.

They had two really good wins against the Eagles and Jets. And the last was against a frankly mistake-ridden Cowboys team.

This is not a team that deserves the respect of a normal #2 seed. If the Packers had not given away that first game against them, they don't even make the playoffs!

They're not better this year.

Perfect call! Why i bet und 8 1/2 this year. If all that nonsense from last year evens out, along with their tough schedule, Bears will be fortunate to win 8.

Quote Originally Posted by Werker:

The Bears were so lucky last year it's ridiculous. Let's go through last year, game by game:

W: Detroit: Got lucky that Megatron placed the ball on the ground to nullify the game winning TD catch.

W: @Dallas: Decent win. Took advantage of Romo throwing 2 INTs

W: GB: Green Bay still reeling from their early season injuries gave up 18 penalties for 150 yards and still only lost by 3.

L: @NYG: Giants pass rush destroyed their o-line and won 17-3, with 10 sacks.

W: @Carolina: Jimmy Clausen/Matt Moore.

L: Seattle: Seahawks got 6 sacks and ran for over 100 yards to win fairly easily.

L: Washington: Deangelo Hall had 4 INTs against Cutler, basically just exploiting Cutler being Cutler.

W: @Buffalo: It was the 2010 Bills (0-8 at that point).

W: Minnesota: Favre threw 3 INTs, as he did every game last year.

W: @Miami: Nice lucky break to catch Thingpen as the Miami QB. He was hapless and Miami couldn't move the ball.

W: Philadelphia: This was their best win of the year. Quality win, no doubt about it. Not taking anything away from it.

W: @Detroit: Facing detroit with Drew Stanton as QB, another lucky break for them. Still had to come from behind in the 4th.

L: New England: Demolished, as they should have been.

W: @Minnesota: Favre went out early and Joe Webb took over. Oh yeah, Adrian Peterson was out.

W: NYJ: Solid win in a shootout with another defensive oriented team. One of two quality wins I credit them.

L: @GB: Played a gritty defensive game in a relatively respectable loss (considering they could have sat their starters) away to a division rival.

Won a playoff game at home against possibly the worst playoff team in NFL history, and then knocked out by the Packers.

They had two really good wins against the Eagles and Jets. And the last was against a frankly mistake-ridden Cowboys team.

This is not a team that deserves the respect of a normal #2 seed. If the Packers had not given away that first game against them, they don't even make the playoffs!

They're not better this year.

Perfect call! Why i bet und 8 1/2 this year. If all that nonsense from last year evens out, along with their tough schedule, Bears will be fortunate to win 8.

TomE

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Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 4:27 PM ET #72

The Bears are who I thought they were... (THIS WEEK)
The Saints are who I thought they were... (THIS WEEK - LOL)

Easy pick, easy money.

What you saw WEEK 1 is not necessarily what you saw WEEK 2.
What you see WEEK 3 won't necessarily be what you saw WEEK 2.

I'll be taking an extra look at Hou +3.5 (Hou @ N.O.) and Chi +3.5 (GB @ Chi) as potential picks.

Keep on truckin'....

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