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    To the people who can't separate the top 4 in the east

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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2019 - 7:37 PM ET #1

    What makes you clowns not understand that the Bucks are better, at least right now, than all these overrated teams?  You think the Bucks would EVER get fapped by a 15 win college level Bulls team on the second night of their back to back when you were on regular rest?  You think the Bucks aren't better than a team like Philly who plays no defense and is a .500 team (like Boston) on the road?  You think the Bucks aren't a little better than a team that was lucky to beat the Spurs by 3 points, a team that's been pretty bad on the road this year and has been terrible on defense for all intents and purposes, at home and follows up that performance by getting trampled at home vs Orlando?  And by the way they also barely beat Brooklyn a couple games before that at home by 2 points.  Championship teams win at least 2 of those 3 by double digits.  We're talking borderline playoff teams at home and you labor in all 3 games.

    Granted, I may be a little hard on the Raptors here as they've won a lot of games, but they've been in a lot more closer games than Milwaukee has and has a worse point differential than Boston despite being up 6 games in the loss column on them which means they have a number of close wins and fair amount of 9-10+ point losses.

    Just don't think the Bucks get any respect from all the morons on espn and other networks.  They're better on defense than all those teams with the exception of maybe Boston where it's a wash possibly (although I think they are better in defensive effiency) and I think they are the number one team on offense in effiency.  And they're point differential is +10 which is 4 points higher than the next best team in the east and the highest in the NBA.  They are yet to lose back to back games this season.

    Think ESPN just loves to take a shit on the Bucks because they aren't a name brand big market like Boston or Philly.  Not saying those teams are bad or anything, but right now Milwaukee is playing much better and retards like Barkley on TNT say he doesn't know who is the best.  Michael Wilbon says the same shit. 

    Only question is if the Bucks are playing above their heads because they're a good regular season team which may not translate to the playoffs as well as people think and teams like Boston are underachieving because they're bored with the regular season.  However, I think even if you do get bored by the regular season a championship level team would be doing better than Boston or Philly.  I mean look at Golden State who doesn't give a shit at all (although I do think they're much more beatable this year so there is something to their struggles) and is still projected to win 60 games whereas Boston is in the very low fifties.  Boston and Philly have the same record as Portland and no one takes Portland seriously so why do they take Boston and Philly like they're world beaters?  Hell Portland has a tougher schedule in the west as teams 5-10 are much better. 

    Not saying the Bucks are a lock to win the East.  Who knows.  But don't tell me you can't separate these teams when one is 8 games better in the loss column.  They deserve a little more respect than that for completely dominating up to this point.  They should be treated as the favorite to win the conference and possibly beat GS when they have homecourt throughout the playoffs.

    With all that being said, they probably lose 3 of the next 5 and make me look bad after posting this.  They do have some challenging road games coming up.

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    What makes you clowns not understand that the Bucks are better, at least right now, than all these overrated teams?  You think the Bucks would EVER get fapped by a 15 win college level Bulls team on the second night of their back to back when you were on regular rest?  You think the Bucks aren't better than a team like Philly who plays no defense and is a .500 team (like Boston) on the road?  You think the Bucks aren't a little better than a team that was lucky to beat the Spurs by 3 points, a team that's been pretty bad on the road this year and has been terrible on defense for all intents and purposes, at home and follows up that performance by getting trampled at home vs Orlando?  And by the way they also barely beat Brooklyn a couple games before that at home by 2 points.  Championship teams win at least 2 of those 3 by double digits.  We're talking borderline playoff teams at home and you labor in all 3 games.

    Granted, I may be a little hard on the Raptors here as they've won a lot of games, but they've been in a lot more closer games than Milwaukee has and has a worse point differential than Boston despite being up 6 games in the loss column on them which means they have a number of close wins and fair amount of 9-10+ point losses.

    Just don't think the Bucks get any respect from all the morons on espn and other networks.  They're better on defense than all those teams with the exception of maybe Boston where it's a wash possibly (although I think they are better in defensive effiency) and I think they are the number one team on offense in effiency.  And they're point differential is +10 which is 4 points higher than the next best team in the east and the highest in the NBA.  They are yet to lose back to back games this season.

    Think ESPN just loves to take a shit on the Bucks because they aren't a name brand big market like Boston or Philly.  Not saying those teams are bad or anything, but right now Milwaukee is playing much better and retards like Barkley on TNT say he doesn't know who is the best.  Michael Wilbon says the same shit. 

    Only question is if the Bucks are playing above their heads because they're a good regular season team which may not translate to the playoffs as well as people think and teams like Boston are underachieving because they're bored with the regular season.  However, I think even if you do get bored by the regular season a championship level team would be doing better than Boston or Philly.  I mean look at Golden State who doesn't give a shit at all (although I do think they're much more beatable this year so there is something to their struggles) and is still projected to win 60 games whereas Boston is in the very low fifties.  Boston and Philly have the same record as Portland and no one takes Portland seriously so why do they take Boston and Philly like they're world beaters?  Hell Portland has a tougher schedule in the west as teams 5-10 are much better. 

    Not saying the Bucks are a lock to win the East.  Who knows.  But don't tell me you can't separate these teams when one is 8 games better in the loss column.  They deserve a little more respect than that for completely dominating up to this point.  They should be treated as the favorite to win the conference and possibly beat GS when they have homecourt throughout the playoffs.

    With all that being said, they probably lose 3 of the next 5 and make me look bad after posting this.  They do have some challenging road games coming up.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2019 - 8:01 PM ET #2

    Indiana peaking at the right time...they are going to be a tough out

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    Indiana peaking at the right time...they are going to be a tough out

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2019 - 8:02 PM ET #3

    Regular season means nothing.....Look at the Dubs...they look like crap at home the last 2 months or so...Fooling around and barely winning most of their games...Come playoffs u know they are for real and will turn it on and dominate....I know Boston will do the same and so will Toronto with Kawhi....Not sure I can say the same about the Bucks...Slow them down and put them in a half court grind game and they are not that great..Until proven otherwise...they will be what the 76ers were last year in the playoffs...2nd round and done.  
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    Regular season means nothing.....Look at the Dubs...they look like crap at home the last 2 months or so...Fooling around and barely winning most of their games...Come playoffs u know they are for real and will turn it on and dominate....I know Boston will do the same and so will Toronto with Kawhi....Not sure I can say the same about the Bucks...Slow them down and put them in a half court grind game and they are not that great..Until proven otherwise...they will be what the 76ers were last year in the playoffs...2nd round and done.  
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2019 - 8:06 PM ET #4

    No one wants to watch the Bucks in the Finals plus LA is a lock to win the West the next 3 years and they wont be playing against the Bucks..  GS vs Bucks or LA vs Bucks doesnt sound appealing and Houston vs Bucks deff doesnt.. Boston or Toronto is making the Finals.. Philly has a chance as well... 
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    No one wants to watch the Bucks in the Finals plus LA is a lock to win the West the next 3 years and they wont be playing against the Bucks..  GS vs Bucks or LA vs Bucks doesnt sound appealing and Houston vs Bucks deff doesnt.. Boston or Toronto is making the Finals.. Philly has a chance as well... 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2019 - 8:13 PM ET #5

    Denver Nuggets look really good right now...probably get the #2 seed. However if they face the LBJ and the Lakers in the playoffs..I would favor the Fakers...Playoffs are a whole different story....Regular season means nothing...Like the Dubs last year getting the #2 seed...it meant nothing to them and they won it all.   
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    Denver Nuggets look really good right now...probably get the #2 seed. However if they face the LBJ and the Lakers in the playoffs..I would favor the Fakers...Playoffs are a whole different story....Regular season means nothing...Like the Dubs last year getting the #2 seed...it meant nothing to them and they won it all.   
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2019 - 8:45 PM ET #6

    Toronto will choke......  don't buy into that hype. This is an American sport and Canada has no market here.
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    Toronto will choke......  don't buy into that hype. This is an American sport and Canada has no market here.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterkush:

    Toronto will choke......  don't buy into that hype. This is an American sport and Canada has no market here.


    They are built for the playoffs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterkush:

    Toronto will choke......  don't buy into that hype. This is an American sport and Canada has no market here.


    They are built for the playoffs...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2019 - 10:36 PM ET #8

    Indiana could easily beat Boston or Philly with Oladipo.  They are also underrated.  At least they have a winning road record.

    Bucks are 3-1 vs Toronto, 2-1 vs Boston (2 games were in Boston), 2-1 vs Indiana (2 games were in Indiana), and 1-0 vs Philly.

     

    Golden State feels like a lesser team this year.  Green isn't the same player he was.  Iguadola not the monster off the bench he was.  Lack of chemistry with Durant who isn't returning.  Durant has looked off in a lot of games. Question is this how good GS actually is on defense or do they not care at all?  Last year they were 11th and this year they are 16th in defensive rating.  First year with Durant?  2nd in defensive rating.  I honestly think Green and Iguadola carried this team on defense and they are losing a step and that's partly responsible for this. 

     

    I agree the Bucks can improve in the half court, but I think they're better than people realize in that area.  I mean they score 120+ every game.  You don't do that by being ineffective in the half court.  Middleton and Brogdon are very underrated players.  Bledsoe penetrates the paint really well.  He has a little Westbrook in him.  And every big man on the floor can shoot 3s.  You got 3 creators on offense in Middleton, Bledsoe, Giannis.  An extremely dominant post player.  And 4-5 guys who perimeter shooters always on the floor at a time.  BTW, Giannis has been shooting 3s better.

    You look at the other teams.  Neither Boston or Toronto has a dominant player in the paint like Giannis.  Philly has Embiid but they don't utilize him as well in the paint imo.  All these other teams get a bit jump shot happy.  The Bucks drive to the basket on every possession and it works well. 

    Also - Bucks are #1 in defensive rating.  They got good defensive players.  They got length.  They got a coach who actually knows something about defense.  That's what gives them an edge over Toronto and Philly.  And the edge over Boston is that they are just a bit more efficient on both sides of the ball.

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    Indiana could easily beat Boston or Philly with Oladipo.  They are also underrated.  At least they have a winning road record.

    Bucks are 3-1 vs Toronto, 2-1 vs Boston (2 games were in Boston), 2-1 vs Indiana (2 games were in Indiana), and 1-0 vs Philly.

     

    Golden State feels like a lesser team this year.  Green isn't the same player he was.  Iguadola not the monster off the bench he was.  Lack of chemistry with Durant who isn't returning.  Durant has looked off in a lot of games. Question is this how good GS actually is on defense or do they not care at all?  Last year they were 11th and this year they are 16th in defensive rating.  First year with Durant?  2nd in defensive rating.  I honestly think Green and Iguadola carried this team on defense and they are losing a step and that's partly responsible for this. 

     

    I agree the Bucks can improve in the half court, but I think they're better than people realize in that area.  I mean they score 120+ every game.  You don't do that by being ineffective in the half court.  Middleton and Brogdon are very underrated players.  Bledsoe penetrates the paint really well.  He has a little Westbrook in him.  And every big man on the floor can shoot 3s.  You got 3 creators on offense in Middleton, Bledsoe, Giannis.  An extremely dominant post player.  And 4-5 guys who perimeter shooters always on the floor at a time.  BTW, Giannis has been shooting 3s better.

    You look at the other teams.  Neither Boston or Toronto has a dominant player in the paint like Giannis.  Philly has Embiid but they don't utilize him as well in the paint imo.  All these other teams get a bit jump shot happy.  The Bucks drive to the basket on every possession and it works well. 

    Also - Bucks are #1 in defensive rating.  They got good defensive players.  They got length.  They got a coach who actually knows something about defense.  That's what gives them an edge over Toronto and Philly.  And the edge over Boston is that they are just a bit more efficient on both sides of the ball.

     
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    We get it ...the guy who started this thread is a Bucks fan. But what makes anyone think they aren't getting any credit or pub?? Giannas was a team captain in the All Star for crying out loud and has been mentioned in almost every conversation for MVP (and deservedly so)?  I agree with the poster who mentioned that the regular season means jack. We will find out soon enough who the Beast in the East is when the playoffs begin; no reason to rip the Raptors, Sixers,or Celtics (overrated?? take off your fan hat off please!) who are all talented in their own right...these 4 teams are almost inseparable right now.

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    We get it ...the guy who started this thread is a Bucks fan. But what makes anyone think they aren't getting any credit or pub?? Giannas was a team captain in the All Star for crying out loud and has been mentioned in almost every conversation for MVP (and deservedly so)?  I agree with the poster who mentioned that the regular season means jack. We will find out soon enough who the Beast in the East is when the playoffs begin; no reason to rip the Raptors, Sixers,or Celtics (overrated?? take off your fan hat off please!) who are all talented in their own right...these 4 teams are almost inseparable right now.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2019 - 11:33 PM ET #10

    greek freak is the new king of the eastern conference new_praise

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    greek freak is the new king of the eastern conference new_praise

     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2019 - 12:03 PM ET #11

    Bucks have a great mix of talent and hunger and no distractions like kawhi in toronto, kyrie in Boston, butler in philly.

    Oladipo injury hurts..
    Teams like det, Orlando nets , charlotte, miami all about the same.




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    Bucks have a great mix of talent and hunger and no distractions like kawhi in toronto, kyrie in Boston, butler in philly.

    Oladipo injury hurts..
    Teams like det, Orlando nets , charlotte, miami all about the same.




     
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    If they win you money when you wager on them great.

    Other than that, who cares

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    If they win you money when you wager on them great.

    Other than that, who cares

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2019 - 4:10 PM ET #13

    Can’t see the bucks in the finals it’s going to either be Toronto or phily bank on it 
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