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    My son wants to know why there are so many black basketball players

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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 6:36 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffFromFuture:

    Well if you are a believer in Darwinism, you can assume it took a role in this...

    According to former Olympic champion Michael Johnson, African American and Caribbean sprinters will dominate the London Olympic games because of what he terms a "superior athletic gene," the favorable consequence of their history of slavery.
    Johnson said: "Difficult as it was to hear, slavery has benefited descendants like me – I believe there is a superior athletic gene in us."
    Daily Mail reports he said: "Over the last few years, athletes of Afro- Caribbean and Afro-American descent have dominated athletics finals. It’s a fact that hasn’t been discussed openly before. It’s a taboo subject in the States, but it is what it is. Why shouldn’t we discuss it?"
    According Johnson, "It is currently being researched to see how much of a factor being descended from slaves contributes to athletic ability."




    I wonder what Johnson would say if you asked him "So by the same token do you believe that white people have developed a superior intelligence gene then?"

    Not taking sides just would love to hear the answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffFromFuture:

    Well if you are a believer in Darwinism, you can assume it took a role in this...

    According to former Olympic champion Michael Johnson, African American and Caribbean sprinters will dominate the London Olympic games because of what he terms a "superior athletic gene," the favorable consequence of their history of slavery.
    Johnson said: "Difficult as it was to hear, slavery has benefited descendants like me – I believe there is a superior athletic gene in us."
    Daily Mail reports he said: "Over the last few years, athletes of Afro- Caribbean and Afro-American descent have dominated athletics finals. It’s a fact that hasn’t been discussed openly before. It’s a taboo subject in the States, but it is what it is. Why shouldn’t we discuss it?"
    According Johnson, "It is currently being researched to see how much of a factor being descended from slaves contributes to athletic ability."




    I wonder what Johnson would say if you asked him "So by the same token do you believe that white people have developed a superior intelligence gene then?"

    Not taking sides just would love to hear the answer
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 6:40 PM ET #27

    Well if you are a believer in Darwinism, you can assume it took a role in this...

    According to former Olympic champion Michael Johnson, African American and Caribbean sprinters will dominate the London Olympic games because of what he terms a "superior athletic gene," the favorable consequence of their history of slavery.
    Johnson said: "Difficult as it was to hear, slavery has benefited descendants like me – I believe there is a superior athletic gene in us."
    Daily Mail reports he said: "Over the last few years, athletes of Afro- Caribbean and Afro-American descent have dominated athletics finals. It’s a fact that hasn’t been discussed openly before. It’s a taboo subject in the States, but it is what it is. Why shouldn’t we discuss it?"
    According Johnson, "It is currently being researched to see how much of a factor being descended from slaves contributes to athletic ability."

    in other words, slave owners took blacks that were the biggest and strongest for labor purposes and that is the genetic pool that exists today...

    but what one of the poster above said about about it being a big part of the African american culture....seems like the best answer here.
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    Well if you are a believer in Darwinism, you can assume it took a role in this...

    According to former Olympic champion Michael Johnson, African American and Caribbean sprinters will dominate the London Olympic games because of what he terms a "superior athletic gene," the favorable consequence of their history of slavery.
    Johnson said: "Difficult as it was to hear, slavery has benefited descendants like me – I believe there is a superior athletic gene in us."
    Daily Mail reports he said: "Over the last few years, athletes of Afro- Caribbean and Afro-American descent have dominated athletics finals. It’s a fact that hasn’t been discussed openly before. It’s a taboo subject in the States, but it is what it is. Why shouldn’t we discuss it?"
    According Johnson, "It is currently being researched to see how much of a factor being descended from slaves contributes to athletic ability."

    in other words, slave owners took blacks that were the biggest and strongest for labor purposes and that is the genetic pool that exists today...

    but what one of the poster above said about about it being a big part of the African american culture....seems like the best answer here.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 6:42 PM ET #28

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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 6:43 PM ET #29

    Psychiatrist If I ever saw you in public, I would make you bite the curb like the movie...and I'm white you racist piece of $hit...
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 6:46 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:



    I wonder what Johnson would say if you asked him "So by the same token do you believe that white people have developed a superior intelligence gene then?"

    Not taking sides just would love to hear the answer


    one might argue that fact that all life is believed to have originated from africa and perhaps differences in climate changes and various different environmental influences that these individuals were subjected to could have had a effect on intelligence.
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    I wonder what Johnson would say if you asked him "So by the same token do you believe that white people have developed a superior intelligence gene then?"

    Not taking sides just would love to hear the answer


    one might argue that fact that all life is believed to have originated from africa and perhaps differences in climate changes and various different environmental influences that these individuals were subjected to could have had a effect on intelligence.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 6:46 PM ET #31

    cause they play bball  better
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    cause they play bball  better
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 6:53 PM ET #32

    As a 30 yr White A.sshole that I am, I recommend u tell him the truth to save u time in the long run. Just say that blacks are naturally just a tad bit bigger faster therefore being a tad more athletic..Truth
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    As a 30 yr White A.sshole that I am, I recommend u tell him the truth to save u time in the long run. Just say that blacks are naturally just a tad bit bigger faster therefore being a tad more athletic..Truth
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 6:54 PM ET #33

    And the extra muscle in there calf helps too
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    And the extra muscle in there calf helps too
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 6:54 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:



    I wonder what Johnson would say if you asked him "So by the same token do you believe that white people have developed a superior intelligence gene then?"

    Not taking sides just would love to hear the answer

    He'd disagree and rightfully so.

    Best at trickery and thievery? Definitely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:



    I wonder what Johnson would say if you asked him "So by the same token do you believe that white people have developed a superior intelligence gene then?"

    Not taking sides just would love to hear the answer

    He'd disagree and rightfully so.

    Best at trickery and thievery? Definitely.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 7:36 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by hustle_man:


    He'd disagree and rightfully so.

    Best at trickery and thievery? Definitely.


    So then that begs an important question....

    If blacks have a superior athletic gene AND
    if whites and blacks have identical intelligence genes

    then whites likely don't have any superior genes then do they according to him?
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    He'd disagree and rightfully so.

    Best at trickery and thievery? Definitely.


    So then that begs an important question....

    If blacks have a superior athletic gene AND
    if whites and blacks have identical intelligence genes

    then whites likely don't have any superior genes then do they according to him?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 7:46 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by SausageTitz:

    And the extra muscle in there calf helps too

    ur so uneducated.there aint such thing like extra muscle or bone
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    And the extra muscle in there calf helps too

    ur so uneducated.there aint such thing like extra muscle or bone
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:



    I wonder what Johnson would say if you asked him "So by the same token do you believe that white people have developed a superior intelligence gene then?"

    Not taking sides just would love to hear the answer

    Personally I believe some racial groups have genetically superior intelligence.  Some groups are physically superior to others, why couldn't other groups be intellectually superior.  Look at the disproportionate number of person at Harvard (really, it's startling how many person are there, especially when you consider person weren't prohibited at Harvard 60+ years ago).

    However, intellectual superiority is linked with value in our society.  Smarter people are perceived as having greater merit.  Obviously, they shouldn't.  You're not a better person because you're smarter.  But society views you that way.  Generally speaking, greater intelligence means greater economic ability.  And society values people of economic means. 

    So while I think it's true that some races are genetically superior intellectually, I think society needs to maintain the pretense that it's not.  Otherwise, people will perceive certain races as having lesser value (even more than they do now).

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    I wonder what Johnson would say if you asked him "So by the same token do you believe that white people have developed a superior intelligence gene then?"

    Not taking sides just would love to hear the answer

    Personally I believe some racial groups have genetically superior intelligence.  Some groups are physically superior to others, why couldn't other groups be intellectually superior.  Look at the disproportionate number of person at Harvard (really, it's startling how many person are there, especially when you consider person weren't prohibited at Harvard 60+ years ago).

    However, intellectual superiority is linked with value in our society.  Smarter people are perceived as having greater merit.  Obviously, they shouldn't.  You're not a better person because you're smarter.  But society views you that way.  Generally speaking, greater intelligence means greater economic ability.  And society values people of economic means. 

    So while I think it's true that some races are genetically superior intellectually, I think society needs to maintain the pretense that it's not.  Otherwise, people will perceive certain races as having lesser value (even more than they do now).

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 7:50 PM ET #38

    Is "J ew s" a bad word? It's translated into "person"

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    Is "J ew s" a bad word? It's translated into "person"

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 7:55 PM ET #39

    It's a combination of many things so don't try to look for a specific reason. 


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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 8:02 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychiatrist29:

    make him watch AMERICAN HISTORY X  


    he wont ask you anymore questions

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    make him watch AMERICAN HISTORY X  


    he wont ask you anymore questions

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 10:17 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcchicken:


    ur so uneducated.there aint such thing like extra muscle or bone
    You sure about that doc?
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    ur so uneducated.there aint such thing like extra muscle or bone
    You sure about that doc?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 10:27 PM ET #42

    I'm white and I won at least 3 or 4 Nerf dunk contests in my bedroom last week, I mean in high school.  So I don't know what you all are talking about.


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    I'm white and I won at least 3 or 4 Nerf dunk contests in my bedroom last week, I mean in high school.  So I don't know what you all are talking about.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 10:36 PM ET #43

    the white guys are busy owning the team
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    the white guys are busy owning the team
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 10:49 PM ET #44

    Who cares?!?
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 10:53 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by Michail1990:

    Afro americans are good in sport, where You have to use vertical jump, quickness etc. They have much better athletic dispositions then white men. You can not see them in NHL because they would not use their advantages there.

    That's not the reason.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michail1990:

    Afro americans are good in sport, where You have to use vertical jump, quickness etc. They have much better athletic dispositions then white men. You can not see them in NHL because they would not use their advantages there.

    That's not the reason.....

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2014 - 11:05 PM ET #46

    Same reason you don't see inner city kids pick up ice skates and play hockey.

    Ease and ubiquity.

    How many ice rinks compared to countless basketball courts?

    And there is a long line of benefactors (tournaments, scholarships, summer camps) that harness basketball talents all the way from prep school to the NCAA itself.

    Of course there are also known physiological differences in the races; particularly the hindquarters and knees. That is why some dude from Congo or Senegal or Lesotho or somewhere from Africa usually win the races.
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    Same reason you don't see inner city kids pick up ice skates and play hockey.

    Ease and ubiquity.

    How many ice rinks compared to countless basketball courts?

    And there is a long line of benefactors (tournaments, scholarships, summer camps) that harness basketball talents all the way from prep school to the NCAA itself.

    Of course there are also known physiological differences in the races; particularly the hindquarters and knees. That is why some dude from Congo or Senegal or Lesotho or somewhere from Africa usually win the races.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2014 - 2:09 AM ET #47

    This thread reminds of an old  funny semi racist joke so please...nobody get offended......PLEASE... it's just a joke....here it goes..

    Why are black guys so good at basketball?






























    Because they know how to "jump", "run" and "steal".....   And yes...one of my young "kids" told me that joke 
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    This thread reminds of an old  funny semi racist joke so please...nobody get offended......PLEASE... it's just a joke....here it goes..

    Why are black guys so good at basketball?






























    Because they know how to "jump", "run" and "steal".....   And yes...one of my young "kids" told me that joke 
     
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    Wrong punch line........because they know how to "jump" "shoot" and "steal" ..........whoops

    All I know is this makes for some great playoff action, regardless of color
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    Wrong punch line........because they know how to "jump" "shoot" and "steal" ..........whoops

    All I know is this makes for some great playoff action, regardless of color
     
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    My son just asked me why there are so many ignorant old fashioned ahole posters on betting websites obsessed with race?  This is an awful stupid thread you shart
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    My son just asked me why there are so many ignorant old fashioned ahole posters on betting websites obsessed with race?  This is an awful stupid thread you shart
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobmaloogatimesfive:

    My son just asked me why there are so many ignorant old fashioned ahole posters on betting websites obsessed with race?  This is an awful stupid thread you shart

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      I think that race is totally upside down in our society. To me, the facts are that black people are more athletic than whites. Does that mean that all blacks are better? No, I am talking on a general level. I cannot turn on a basketball game and not be amazed that there are very few or no whites and if I am watching a football game, then I am amazed at the ratio difference in the skill positions. 
      Does that make me a racist? It may, and I will let you judge that. I believe that there are some differences in the races based on my observation factually of what I see on TV, day after day. That difference cannot be explained by cultural bias alone to me ( this is the theme of the day, more playgrounds with hoops, thus more blacks playing basketball) That could explain some of the difference but there are plenty of kids in my community who are white and playing basketball that will probably not get past the high school level, in spite of better coaching and organization.
      I think we are being fed BS by the smart people of the day  that claim "equality of races". It does not fit with my observations of what I see. That said, I am not entirely dismissing it.. It is a possibility  Ithink objective debate on the subject would be helpful but we are encouraged in our society today to buy the dogma. "we are all equal" and if you question this dogma, then you are an ignorant racist.We are also not supposed to talk about this anymore, as the issue  has been settled and to debate it, makes you a racist.We are all living in fear of being labeled as a racist. That is the new status quo. I am just asking a question very politely and not insulting anyone based on an observation of my son.Does it matter? I am not sure it does but as a pseudo intellectual  I think the debate should at least occur, without even broaching the subject making you a racist. 



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    Quote Originally Posted by bobmaloogatimesfive:

    My son just asked me why there are so many ignorant old fashioned ahole posters on betting websites obsessed with race?  This is an awful stupid thread you shart

    Thanks-
      I think that race is totally upside down in our society. To me, the facts are that black people are more athletic than whites. Does that mean that all blacks are better? No, I am talking on a general level. I cannot turn on a basketball game and not be amazed that there are very few or no whites and if I am watching a football game, then I am amazed at the ratio difference in the skill positions. 
      Does that make me a racist? It may, and I will let you judge that. I believe that there are some differences in the races based on my observation factually of what I see on TV, day after day. That difference cannot be explained by cultural bias alone to me ( this is the theme of the day, more playgrounds with hoops, thus more blacks playing basketball) That could explain some of the difference but there are plenty of kids in my community who are white and playing basketball that will probably not get past the high school level, in spite of better coaching and organization.
      I think we are being fed BS by the smart people of the day  that claim "equality of races". It does not fit with my observations of what I see. That said, I am not entirely dismissing it.. It is a possibility  Ithink objective debate on the subject would be helpful but we are encouraged in our society today to buy the dogma. "we are all equal" and if you question this dogma, then you are an ignorant racist.We are also not supposed to talk about this anymore, as the issue  has been settled and to debate it, makes you a racist.We are all living in fear of being labeled as a racist. That is the new status quo. I am just asking a question very politely and not insulting anyone based on an observation of my son.Does it matter? I am not sure it does but as a pseudo intellectual  I think the debate should at least occur, without even broaching the subject making you a racist. 



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