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    Making up for that Blazers debacle with a play today...(With write-up!!!)

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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 1:43 PM ET #1

    It's an unconventional play if you are willing to play it.

    ONE bad quarter did the Blazers in last time out against OKC. They would have lead at the half by 2 54-52 if not for a three pointer by Sefolosha at the buzzer which swung the momentum in favor of OKC 55-54.

    Then came the third where the Blazers scored all of SEVEN points and that was the difference. Otherwise, Portland went neck and neck or outplayed OKC for 3 quarters. That's saying a lot against the best team in the West fighting for a number 1 seed against one of the worst teams in the West right now. The game before that they went neck and neck with the Lakers. The game before that they came roaring back against the Mavs. There is FIGHT here.


    That is why, even if they have such a quarter tonight against Denver (and I don't think they won't), we can guard against it.

    The line is +14.5 and we are going to take this line to where no bookie will ever allow you to take it, to +19.0 teasing it the standard 4.5.

    I know you don't like teases, and I know you don't play them but they are useful in some circumstances. 

    One of the circumstances is when you are getting almost a quarters worth of points. Essentially we are giving Portland FIVE quarters to beat Denver who will only play 4 in the real game. THAT is a worthwhile play even in as tough a place to play as Denver is who rightfully are fighting for playoff position as well. 19 points is 19 points period. You take it an run if you can move a line to 19.

    One problem? What's the other game.

    Take the Lakers +4.5 and bring the line to +9. 


    Why? We all know teams get an initial motivational bump when their star leaves. It is strongest in the very next game where all role players and secondary stars step up. Your secondary stars are very powerful on this team in the likes of Gasol and Howard. I wish Nash was a go because he could find rhythm without Kobe but we'll have to live with Blake. We're gonna hope to see World Peace step in today and give us the 20 point performances we saw in Mid-March. Not a bad role player to have on your side no matter what you think of him.

    The other reason why I LOVE the 9 here is because the last time Kobe went down they played Indiana on March 15th. NO ONE thought they'd be able to survive without Kobe and they won in a very tough place to play in Indiana 99-93 and Metta gave them 19 big ones.

    So we are getting NINE in a spot where you will have a motivated Laker team, running through the bigs, who, while they have struggled as a team are two great players, and a team that is fighting for its playoff life and will fight tooth and nail to win this or keep this close making nine a gargantuan spread.

    So we get an extra quarter in one game with a team that fought tooth and nail with the best outside of one quarter (now we cover that quarter if it happens again) and 9 in spot with a team in a Must Win at home.

    So if you're willing to make an unconventional bet, I think it's there for the taking


    THE BET (tease at +4.5 -110 juice):

    BLAZERS +19.0 over NUGGETS 

    AND 

    LAKERS +9 over SPURS
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    It's an unconventional play if you are willing to play it.

    ONE bad quarter did the Blazers in last time out against OKC. They would have lead at the half by 2 54-52 if not for a three pointer by Sefolosha at the buzzer which swung the momentum in favor of OKC 55-54.

    Then came the third where the Blazers scored all of SEVEN points and that was the difference. Otherwise, Portland went neck and neck or outplayed OKC for 3 quarters. That's saying a lot against the best team in the West fighting for a number 1 seed against one of the worst teams in the West right now. The game before that they went neck and neck with the Lakers. The game before that they came roaring back against the Mavs. There is FIGHT here.


    That is why, even if they have such a quarter tonight against Denver (and I don't think they won't), we can guard against it.

    The line is +14.5 and we are going to take this line to where no bookie will ever allow you to take it, to +19.0 teasing it the standard 4.5.

    I know you don't like teases, and I know you don't play them but they are useful in some circumstances. 

    One of the circumstances is when you are getting almost a quarters worth of points. Essentially we are giving Portland FIVE quarters to beat Denver who will only play 4 in the real game. THAT is a worthwhile play even in as tough a place to play as Denver is who rightfully are fighting for playoff position as well. 19 points is 19 points period. You take it an run if you can move a line to 19.

    One problem? What's the other game.

    Take the Lakers +4.5 and bring the line to +9. 


    Why? We all know teams get an initial motivational bump when their star leaves. It is strongest in the very next game where all role players and secondary stars step up. Your secondary stars are very powerful on this team in the likes of Gasol and Howard. I wish Nash was a go because he could find rhythm without Kobe but we'll have to live with Blake. We're gonna hope to see World Peace step in today and give us the 20 point performances we saw in Mid-March. Not a bad role player to have on your side no matter what you think of him.

    The other reason why I LOVE the 9 here is because the last time Kobe went down they played Indiana on March 15th. NO ONE thought they'd be able to survive without Kobe and they won in a very tough place to play in Indiana 99-93 and Metta gave them 19 big ones.

    So we are getting NINE in a spot where you will have a motivated Laker team, running through the bigs, who, while they have struggled as a team are two great players, and a team that is fighting for its playoff life and will fight tooth and nail to win this or keep this close making nine a gargantuan spread.

    So we get an extra quarter in one game with a team that fought tooth and nail with the best outside of one quarter (now we cover that quarter if it happens again) and 9 in spot with a team in a Must Win at home.

    So if you're willing to make an unconventional bet, I think it's there for the taking


    THE BET (tease at +4.5 -110 juice):

    BLAZERS +19.0 over NUGGETS 

    AND 

    LAKERS +9 over SPURS
     
    ddjf
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 3:21 PM ET #2

    Arent you still in nba? And betting on games. I guess being a career backup has you trying to enhance cash flow however you can. BOL
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    Arent you still in nba? And betting on games. I guess being a career backup has you trying to enhance cash flow however you can. BOL
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 4:03 PM ET #3

    Nope, I'm a squash player now...

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2013/02/10/brian-scalabrine-won-stop-the-ongoing-adventures-celtics-fan-favorite/u0mtXt0Q6qUq0MQjl8AU4O/story.html
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    Nope, I'm a squash player now...

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2013/02/10/brian-scalabrine-won-stop-the-ongoing-adventures-celtics-fan-favorite/u0mtXt0Q6qUq0MQjl8AU4O/story.html
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 5:28 PM ET #4

    Why wouldn't you tease it 5 points, get the hook because a push is a loss in a teaser
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    Why wouldn't you tease it 5 points, get the hook because a push is a loss in a teaser
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 5:43 PM ET #5

    Lol...chasing the Blaze again I see...doesn't look to fruitful so far...but is NBA I spose...GLTA
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    Lol...chasing the Blaze again I see...doesn't look to fruitful so far...but is NBA I spose...GLTA
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 5:49 PM ET #6

    LOL this boy is a Portland's fan. Last game Portland vs. Oklahoma he said Portland should be a favor (OKC is a wrong team favor on that game) Today he on blazers again, a team that can't win again and on losing streak. You write up just like a pile of garbage.

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    LOL this boy is a Portland's fan. Last game Portland vs. Oklahoma he said Portland should be a favor (OKC is a wrong team favor on that game) Today he on blazers again, a team that can't win again and on losing streak. You write up just like a pile of garbage.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 6:09 PM ET #7

    I saw that...I just have a hard time justifying even taking almost 20 points w a team w/o Matthews,Batum,or Aldridge...w only 8 players suited against Nugs team still playing for something,star PG back,and playing 10 guys at the offensive pace that they set...in that altitude,no less...nothing Scalabrine says over the years ever seems to make much sense to me,but hey I wish him best of luck,as I have the 1st half and game minus the hefty chalk,so maybe we both win...but am feeling a woodshed beating here by close to 30 come final buzzer and the Blazer kids are gassed...GLTA
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    I saw that...I just have a hard time justifying even taking almost 20 points w a team w/o Matthews,Batum,or Aldridge...w only 8 players suited against Nugs team still playing for something,star PG back,and playing 10 guys at the offensive pace that they set...in that altitude,no less...nothing Scalabrine says over the years ever seems to make much sense to me,but hey I wish him best of luck,as I have the 1st half and game minus the hefty chalk,so maybe we both win...but am feeling a woodshed beating here by close to 30 come final buzzer and the Blazer kids are gassed...GLTA
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 6:12 PM ET #8

    Hell,at this rate we may see Quincy Miller and Jordan Hamilton take over and still pour it on this pathetic Portland team...too funny...
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    Hell,at this rate we may see Quincy Miller and Jordan Hamilton take over and still pour it on this pathetic Portland team...too funny...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 6:17 PM ET #9

    I actually hate teasers but the logic here was not faulty. Except putting it with San Antonio would have been smarter. IMO. GL Scalabrine
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    I actually hate teasers but the logic here was not faulty. Except putting it with San Antonio would have been smarter. IMO. GL Scalabrine
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 6:19 PM ET #10

    Portland is a worst team now, every team can blow them out even Phoenix Sun still can blow them out for 20 points

     

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    Portland is a worst team now, every team can blow them out even Phoenix Sun still can blow them out for 20 points

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 6:23 PM ET #11

    It's okay Casheasy, he bet only $20/game, he can ask his mom for 100 buck tomorrow to take care of his bookie for last game and this game

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    It's okay Casheasy, he bet only $20/game, he can ask his mom for 100 buck tomorrow to take care of his bookie for last game and this game

     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 6:24 PM ET #12

    If you say so casheasy...ok so it's "not faulty"? Yet your saying Spurs tease would have been smarter...well sure as $hit one could argue,why not tease the Nugs with everything to play for down instead?...I think at home minus anything under DDs would have been MUCH smarter than one of worst,down trodden teams +19...and like an above poster said...if he pushes one,more than likely its a loss...assanine the stuff I hear in here lately...oh look,Nugs are up by 17 and GIVING 4 more in 2nd...if that doesn't say it all right there,then I don't know what does...GLTA
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    If you say so casheasy...ok so it's "not faulty"? Yet your saying Spurs tease would have been smarter...well sure as $hit one could argue,why not tease the Nugs with everything to play for down instead?...I think at home minus anything under DDs would have been MUCH smarter than one of worst,down trodden teams +19...and like an above poster said...if he pushes one,more than likely its a loss...assanine the stuff I hear in here lately...oh look,Nugs are up by 17 and GIVING 4 more in 2nd...if that doesn't say it all right there,then I don't know what does...GLTA
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 6:25 PM ET #13

    Scalabrine must have laid another grip down on his beloved Blazers...Nugs -3.5 now hahaha
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    Scalabrine must have laid another grip down on his beloved Blazers...Nugs -3.5 now hahaha
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 6:28 PM ET #14

    ...and I just put my $$ where my mouth is and bit on the Nugs minus a few more...why not?...I only see the Blaze sucking more wind by the 4th and Denver running away by my aforementioned 30...we shall see...GLTA.
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    ...and I just put my $$ where my mouth is and bit on the Nugs minus a few more...why not?...I only see the Blaze sucking more wind by the 4th and Denver running away by my aforementioned 30...we shall see...GLTA.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rauchy76:

    I saw that...I just have a hard time justifying even taking almost 20 points w a team w/o Matthews,Batum,or Aldridge...w only 8 players suited against Nugs team still playing for something,star PG back,and playing 10 guys at the offensive pace that they set...in that altitude,no less...nothing Scalabrine says over the years ever seems to make much sense to me,but hey I wish him best of luck,as I have the 1st half and game minus the hefty chalk,so maybe we both win...but am feeling a woodshed beating here by close to 30 come final buzzer and the Blazer kids are gassed...GLTA

    "Nothing makes much sense, oh except for the 4 wins I posted before the last Blazer game.

    Missed those.

    Yeah besides that, nothing makes much sense..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rauchy76:

    I saw that...I just have a hard time justifying even taking almost 20 points w a team w/o Matthews,Batum,or Aldridge...w only 8 players suited against Nugs team still playing for something,star PG back,and playing 10 guys at the offensive pace that they set...in that altitude,no less...nothing Scalabrine says over the years ever seems to make much sense to me,but hey I wish him best of luck,as I have the 1st half and game minus the hefty chalk,so maybe we both win...but am feeling a woodshed beating here by close to 30 come final buzzer and the Blazer kids are gassed...GLTA

    "Nothing makes much sense, oh except for the 4 wins I posted before the last Blazer game.

    Missed those.

    Yeah besides that, nothing makes much sense..."
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 6:45 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Coochiemuncher:

    Why wouldn't you tease it 5 points, get the hook because a push is a loss in a teaser

    Push is not a loss with a teaser of 4.5 -110. Push is a no play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coochiemuncher:

    Why wouldn't you tease it 5 points, get the hook because a push is a loss in a teaser

    Push is not a loss with a teaser of 4.5 -110. Push is a no play.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 7:04 PM ET #17

    Oh snap...your right I missed those apparently...let me go get you a gold star sticker...great job man...if ya noticed I stated earlier that "I hope we both win"...I was simply perplexed by the play and the reasoning when someone else brought it up as to why not tease the Nugs down instead...what do I know tho...this is the most volatile time of year betting NBA,most bets are a crap shoot at this juncture anyways...again,GL on the +19 as I DO agree w the lakers +9...may even win outright the way the line is moving...GLTA
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    Oh snap...your right I missed those apparently...let me go get you a gold star sticker...great job man...if ya noticed I stated earlier that "I hope we both win"...I was simply perplexed by the play and the reasoning when someone else brought it up as to why not tease the Nugs down instead...what do I know tho...this is the most volatile time of year betting NBA,most bets are a crap shoot at this juncture anyways...again,GL on the +19 as I DO agree w the lakers +9...may even win outright the way the line is moving...GLTA
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 7:06 PM ET #18

    Chandler and Brewer going a whopping 4 for 15 is sure as hell helping your cause...
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 7:16 PM ET #19

    this is silly
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 7:24 PM ET #20

    No doubt,but I am bored as hell at work and got caught up in it...why can I say,I digress with nothing else to do
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 7:33 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Rauchy76:

    Oh snap...your right I missed those apparently...let me go get you a gold star sticker...great job man...if ya noticed I stated earlier that "I hope we both win"...I was simply perplexed by the play and the reasoning when someone else brought it up as to why not tease the Nugs down instead...what do I know tho...this is the most volatile time of year betting NBA,most bets are a crap shoot at this juncture anyways...again,GL on the +19 as I DO agree w the lakers +9...may even win outright the way the line is moving...GLTA

    As you can see Denver teased down to 9.5 was a loss. I'll take 19 with almost any team except the bobcats who are capable of losing games by 25 + on any night.

    While the 14 would have hit straight up, I couldn't take that chance with a team that lost 10 in a row vs a team that was 36-3 at home. 19 I can though. That is a full fifth quarter for this team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rauchy76:

    Oh snap...your right I missed those apparently...let me go get you a gold star sticker...great job man...if ya noticed I stated earlier that "I hope we both win"...I was simply perplexed by the play and the reasoning when someone else brought it up as to why not tease the Nugs down instead...what do I know tho...this is the most volatile time of year betting NBA,most bets are a crap shoot at this juncture anyways...again,GL on the +19 as I DO agree w the lakers +9...may even win outright the way the line is moving...GLTA

    As you can see Denver teased down to 9.5 was a loss. I'll take 19 with almost any team except the bobcats who are capable of losing games by 25 + on any night.

    While the 14 would have hit straight up, I couldn't take that chance with a team that lost 10 in a row vs a team that was 36-3 at home. 19 I can though. That is a full fifth quarter for this team.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 7:41 PM ET #22

    Once again, the guy that criticizes my post is proven to be a dumbfuck.
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 7:43 PM ET #23

    I gotcha...I for one definitely didn't see those young kids clawing back from such a large HT deficit,but hats off to them,they played lights out...and maybe all that pine time helped w the altitude...I would have liked to have seen a better performance from Brew n Chandler,but them are the breaks...good call and best of luck on the Lakers plus the 9...I think they might shock a few tonight and believe Howard might play his best game of the season...GLTA
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    I gotcha...I for one definitely didn't see those young kids clawing back from such a large HT deficit,but hats off to them,they played lights out...and maybe all that pine time helped w the altitude...I would have liked to have seen a better performance from Brew n Chandler,but them are the breaks...good call and best of luck on the Lakers plus the 9...I think they might shock a few tonight and believe Howard might play his best game of the season...GLTA
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2013 - 7:47 PM ET #24

    Yup,the last possession hoop by the Blazers proved that I am a dumbfuck...and you are a master of your universe...I now to your infinite wisdom
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