LOL bill simmons, one of the greatest minds? please stop smoking crack.. the guy is clueless. He's even worse on the show with magic and wilbon, has the most biased opinions ever. He would let the celtics team nut on his face if they wanted to.
[Quote: Originally Posted by sharksbreath]
Has Kobe ever won a playoff series without a big man.
Jordan was 1-9 in the playoffs before pippen arrived and constantly getting bounced out of the playoffs.
Gasol is 0-12 in the playoffs in his career without Kobe
Just asking. because Mike won playoff series before Pippen got on the team. He never had a great big man.
Pippen is better than any teammate kobe played with other than shaq. Pippen won 55 games with the bulls team when MJ left and led them in every statistical category. Pippen was also one of the best defenders in the nba
Rodman was one of the best rebounders of all time
Kobe barely got his team in the playoffs when he was by HIMSELF.
Jordan did nothing by himself - he did not win anything without Pippen - nothing. Jordan never, ever, ever, had a roster like kobe had in 2006 - smush parker, kwame brown, chris mihm, luke walton - no one in NBA history could win a nba title with that roster, no one, and if you actually think so you are lying.
With that being said, MJ is still the best, because once he had Pippen, he performed well, but lets stop acting like Kobe was the only one that won with another great player. Magic had stacked laker teams, same with Bird.
Gasol is 0-12 in the playoffs in his career without Kobe
Just asking. because Mike won playoff series before Pippen got on the team. He never had a great big man.
Pippen is better than any teammate kobe played with other than shaq. Pippen won 55 games with the bulls team when MJ left and led them in every statistical category. Pippen was also one of the best defenders in the nba
Rodman was one of the best rebounders of all time
Kobe barely got his team in the playoffs when he was by HIMSELF.
Jordan did nothing by himself - he did not win anything without Pippen - nothing. Jordan never, ever, ever, had a roster like kobe had in 2006 - smush parker, kwame brown, chris mihm, luke walton - no one in NBA history could win a nba title with that roster, no one, and if you actually think so you are lying.
With that being said, MJ is still the best, because once he had Pippen, he performed well, but lets stop acting like Kobe was the only one that won with another great player. Magic had stacked laker teams, same with Bird.
i see.. and when pippen won 55 games without jordan... let me guess.. it was jordan's spirit that won them the games.
if a 20 year old jordan played with a prime shaq, the same result would have happened, shaq would still have won the mvp's - he was the biggest matchup nightmare for opponents. so no they would have not won 8 - they would not have lasted that long.
After a while shaq and jordan's ego's would clash... no way jordan would want to be the #2option, and one would thus have to leave. They were both alpha dogs.
Kobe came in as a teen to an established shaq, ofc they were going to run through shaq... go check the West conf finals, kobe was the one coming through late in games and putting up huge numbers
game 7 vs portland west finals - kobe led the team in points, rebounds, and assists, and he was 21 years old. Shaq dominated the finals b/c he was a huge mismatch.
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