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How is this possible? Kobe got carried by Shaq to all his rings. And look at the kid this season, look how many superstars he is surrounded by, but no1 is hating on Kobe for teaming up with these guys? And also when u look at the fact that the refs carried Lakers, not Kobe. Refs got Lakers ATLEAST 10 Games. There is ATLEAST 10 games in which Lakers should have lost that they won, only because of terrible refs. I think this is pathetic. Kobe defo not living up to expectations, he is only a ballhog kid that wants to get stats. LeBron doesnt give a damn about statistics, otherwise he wouldnt be sitting at the bench all the time when the game is over. Kobe is always in there to score points so he can be #1 scorer, and i hate him for being such a stat hungry kid.

Remember playoffs against Nuggets? How many shots did Kobe take, despite having wide open teammates? He took ALL shots. And now, please dont be like: "He is the only guy that can score" cause u know that its completely bullshit. Lakers have many players that can be productive if u give them the opportunities, and no, they dont miss wide open shots.

Only idiots with no basketball clue hate LeBron for not taking the shot all the time. He always take the best decision coz he has a sense of the game and plays with so high basketball IQ. If u are double/triple teamed ure not going to take the shot idiots, not in crunch time either. If Wade is wide open or Chalmers or some shit, then give the ball to him. That is the best decision, and LeBron takes the best decision.


 
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the HEAT don't? get ANY help from the refs, lebron is constantly hit and smacked and no foul is called, he's like shaq at the SF kobrick on the other hand has been phantom fouled his whole career and yet the punk still managed only 2 finals mvps

 
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To win a championship in the NBA a teams best player in a tight game MUST BE ABLE TO GET A BASKET when the team needs it most.

Jordan could, Bird oh yea, Magic yep, Hekeem yes sir, Shag or Kobe you bet, Lebron nope he can't do it.

When the game is on the line Lebron has looked lost, just a fact.

Let him pass to a teammate because that's the smart play, why didn't those other players pss to teammates then in the clutch. Sure they did once in a while but the difference is they also had many moments of taking over very close, tight  games and scoring baskets their teams needed when Lebron just can't seem to do it to the same level of success.

It's those big moments that tells us the most about how great a player is...............................................................

 
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Shaq was brought in while Kobe was a Laker, Gasol was brought in while Kobe was a Laker.....Kobe never jumped ship for something better.  Kobe has never quit on his team.  Kobe never went on national TV with a glorified press conference to announce where he was taking his talents.  Kobe's mom isn't a drunken whooore (at least that I'm aware of) who bangs his teammates.  

People don't hate LeBron for not taking the shot all the time.  People hate him because of his attitude on the court..... always overly dramatic about everything.  He's always 'look at me'.... grimacing after a play, or always shouting 'and 1!' after a basket where there is no foul.  Saying he doesn't flop, when he flops with the best of them.    

That being said, I do find it odd that he is hated more than a rapist, but that's the world we live in.  Most likely because most of the LeBron worshippers are too young to remember that Kobe was on trial.  Most LBJ fans here in Cleveland thought that the Cavs franchise started when he was drafted.  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

To win a championship in the NBA a teams best player in a tight game MUST BE ABLE TO GET A BASKET when the team needs it most.

Jordan could, Bird oh yea, Magic yep, Hekeem yes sir, Shag or Kobe you bet, Lebron nope he can't do it.

When the game is on the line Lebron has looked lost, just a fact.

Let him pass to a teammate because that's the smart play, why didn't those other players pss to teammates then in the clutch. Sure they did once in a while but the difference is they also had many moments of taking over very close, tight  games and scoring baskets their teams needed when Lebron just can't seem to do it to the same level of success.

It's those big moments that tells us the most about how great a player is...............................................................


There are numbers that counter your post

I have read and seen the numbers that lbj has been most clutch player fir years

You are cherry picking misses here and there and passes here and there and turnovers here and there

Article and source that tracks everyone's performance reveals lbj outperformed Kobe, Durant, melo, etc...in clutch moments

By the way clutch is subjective.....great teams and players don't live for close games....they avoid them

Close games leave things to chance.

But back to my point....there is data that refutes your opinion about who shoots better late in games....if that's what your measurement is 


 
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

To win a championship in the NBA a teams best player in a tight game MUST BE ABLE TO GET A BASKET when the team needs it most.

Jordan could, Bird oh yea, Magic yep, Hekeem yes sir, Shag or Kobe you bet, Lebron nope he can't do it.

When the game is on the line Lebron has looked lost, just a fact.

Let him pass to a teammate because that's the smart play, why didn't those other players pss to teammates then in the clutch. Sure they did once in a while but the difference is they also had many moments of taking over very close, tight  games and scoring baskets their teams needed when Lebron just can't seem to do it to the same level of success.

It's those big moments that tells us the most about how great a player is...............................................................


There are numbers and articles that counter your post

You are cherry picking misses here and there and passes here and there and turnovers here and there

By the way clutch is subjective.....great teams and players don't live for close games....they avoid them

Close games leave things to chance.

But back to my point....there is data that refutes your opinion about who shoots better late in games....if that's what your measurement is 

But as it goes for anything subjective

Who am I to believe, me or YOUR LYING EYES

Or you can say the same

Who is you I believe, yourself, or MY LYING EYES

that's why I say ....pull the data....it s there

Lbj shoots a higher percentage than u think
And it us a % higher than his current NBA peers 


 
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Lebron closed out game 1 against Indy of recent memory.  

Kobe went to an organization that has a history of pitting together good teams and winning titles.  I doubt Lebron would have left Lakers if that's where he first landed.   Has Cleveland ever won a title?   

Kobe duplicated Jordan's moves on the court but also seems to have the same bad attitude Jordan has also.  Lebron seems like a genuine nice guy.  

Kobe is a great player but I don't see much fault in much of what Lebron has done.  
 
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Sorry for double post. 

Did not know my  iPad submitted post as I was typing it....before I edited it

 
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Quote Originally Posted by ct1016:


There are numbers and articles that counter your post

You are cherry picking misses here and there and passes here and there and turnovers here and there

By the way clutch is subjective.....great teams and players don't live for close games....they avoid them

Close games leave things to chance.

But back to my point....there is data that refutes your opinion about who shoots better late in games....if that's what your measurement is 

But as it goes for anything subjective

Who am I to believe, me or YOUR LYING EYES

Or you can say the same

Who is you I believe, yourself, or MY LYING EYES

that's why I say ....pull the data....it s there

Lbj shoots a higher percentage than u think
And it us a % higher than his current NBA peers 


 

I'm aware of those numbers but your talking about regular season meaningless games.

The games I'm talking about are the biggest games, like NBA Finals games, doesn't get any bigger then that.

Lebron disappeared VS mavs, was completely lost and looked shell-shocked and clusless, and he's done it again at moments VS Spurs.

Judge a players greatness in the biggest moments VS the best competition and Lebron doesn't match-up with other great players, not yet anyway, he should get more oppurtunities to do so, if he can rise above it all and carry his team that will bode well for his legacy.

 
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When a player who makes his money thru the backs of the ordinary man doesnt have a filter and says that these ordinary people who make him the money he has made in his lifetime says THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEIR PATHETIC SH*TTY LIVES and I GET TO GO BACK TO MY GREAT LIFE
It is very very very easy to hate him more than the RAPIST BRYANT.
How about just hating them all and making money off them, Wow, what a concept for sheep to learn.

By being a hater, You are never really disappointed, You are only disappointed when they do not do something wrong.

Hate the Players, Love the game.
 
 
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I never understood this as well but seems like the most Anti-Bron guys are die hard Kobe fans. I've always liked Lebron's game and personality. He's always having fun and is a great teammate. I would think almost every player in the nba would rather play with Lebron than Kobe
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