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    Enough Dicking around... im gonna bank 10k by the end of the season - run starts 2night

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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 4:25 PM ET #1

     No more BS..
     
    I'll be playing only games in which the home team is favored, tonights leans are as follows (I will finalize them 30 mins before tip):
     
     
    Philadelphia +8.5 $100
    Cleveland +2.5 $100
    Seattle +8 $100
    Charlotte +13.5 $100
    Miami +4.5 $100
    LA Lakers +2 $100
    Dallas -2.5 $100
    Pheonix -11 $100
    Golden State +2 $100
     
    looks like a night of road covers.
     
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
     No more BS..
     
    I'll be playing only games in which the home team is favored, tonights leans are as follows (I will finalize them 30 mins before tip):
     
     
    Philadelphia +8.5 $100
    Cleveland +2.5 $100
    Seattle +8 $100
    Charlotte +13.5 $100
    Miami +4.5 $100
    LA Lakers +2 $100
    Dallas -2.5 $100
    Pheonix -11 $100
    Golden State +2 $100
     
    looks like a night of road covers.
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 4:27 PM ET #2

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnicksFan18:

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnicksFan18:

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 4:51 PM ET #4

    its better to limit your plays and keep them to home dogs or have a  "trend" play.  Last night was a huge one on Milwaukee.  I had them on the ML and +6 huge!!  Sixers coming back home after a 7 game Road trip.
     
    Or try another way, when a team goes on a road trip of 4 games or more in a row, bet against them until they do not cover.  If they cover the 1st game, double against them on the 2nd, etc etc....
     
    Favs in not the best way to making money in the long run IMO.
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    its better to limit your plays and keep them to home dogs or have a  "trend" play.  Last night was a huge one on Milwaukee.  I had them on the ML and +6 huge!!  Sixers coming back home after a 7 game Road trip.
     
    Or try another way, when a team goes on a road trip of 4 games or more in a row, bet against them until they do not cover.  If they cover the 1st game, double against them on the 2nd, etc etc....
     
    Favs in not the best way to making money in the long run IMO.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 4:56 PM ET #5

    That is a lot of games....GL
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    That is a lot of games....GL
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 4:58 PM ET #6

    I've learned less is better.
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    I've learned less is better.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 5:01 PM ET #7

     Tridge
     
    But for tonight... take off PHX, GS and PHI
     
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     Tridge
     
    But for tonight... take off PHX, GS and PHI
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 5:06 PM ET #8

    WizardOfOdd => smoking logic guy... SMOKIN'!!! I really like the way you think. I've got to ruminate upon what you said long enough to absorb it a little bit more, but that's just the kinda' advice I need, buddy. Thanks for the great great post... Wisdom in a small but cogent kernal, guys...
     
    Tridge: Best of Luck to you... You're setting a goal (an ambitious one). Go get it. I believe in ya' buddy... And I hope with all my heart you get it, friend...  => Tridge backer here... 
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    WizardOfOdd => smoking logic guy... SMOKIN'!!! I really like the way you think. I've got to ruminate upon what you said long enough to absorb it a little bit more, but that's just the kinda' advice I need, buddy. Thanks for the great great post... Wisdom in a small but cogent kernal, guys...
     
    Tridge: Best of Luck to you... You're setting a goal (an ambitious one). Go get it. I believe in ya' buddy... And I hope with all my heart you get it, friend...  => Tridge backer here... 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 5:07 PM ET #9

    like 2 out of 9 u have pick

    cleveland

    phoenix

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    like 2 out of 9 u have pick

    cleveland

    phoenix

     
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    Tridge, This shit gets frustrating, I can't tell you how many times I felt like just giving in. Every freaking time I raise my normal wager amount, I loose, 9 out of 10 times. But, I keep doing it. Its a lot a work only to be up a few hundred by the end of the week.
     
    Hang in there bro!
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    Tridge, This shit gets frustrating, I can't tell you how many times I felt like just giving in. Every freaking time I raise my normal wager amount, I loose, 9 out of 10 times. But, I keep doing it. Its a lot a work only to be up a few hundred by the end of the week.
     
    Hang in there bro!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 5:10 PM ET #12

    gutcheck.. I know EXACTLY what you mean bro. Next time I raise my wager on a single play I am going to fade it because after the fact I wonder why I didn't do that in the first place.
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    gutcheck.. I know EXACTLY what you mean bro. Next time I raise my wager on a single play I am going to fade it because after the fact I wonder why I didn't do that in the first place.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 5:10 PM ET #13

    I'm writing down in my (evolving) rules list what WizardOfOdd said above. I think it's that fundamentally sound. Thanks again for the guidance WizardOfOdd... great name (WizardOfOdd)... 
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    I'm writing down in my (evolving) rules list what WizardOfOdd said above. I think it's that fundamentally sound. Thanks again for the guidance WizardOfOdd... great name (WizardOfOdd)... 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 5:26 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by JackBurton:

    I'm writing down in my (evolving) rules list what WizardOfOdd said above. I think it's that fundamentally sound. Thanks again for the guidance WizardOfOdd... great name (WizardOfOdd)... 

     

    no prob man.  there is alot of ways to get an advantage on the plays.  here is a list you can go by, it will help..

    *limit your plays

    *dont chase

    *dont bet the side and total in the same game

    *keep away from road favs

    *keep the bets consistent (example $100-$500 a game, not $100 a game and $1200 the next)

    *keep track of teams going on long road trips (fatigue factor) like last night, Orlando started a 4 game WEST road trip, game one they lost ATS, so you dont play against them the rest of this trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackBurton:

    I'm writing down in my (evolving) rules list what WizardOfOdd said above. I think it's that fundamentally sound. Thanks again for the guidance WizardOfOdd... great name (WizardOfOdd)... 

     

    no prob man.  there is alot of ways to get an advantage on the plays.  here is a list you can go by, it will help..

    *limit your plays

    *dont chase

    *dont bet the side and total in the same game

    *keep away from road favs

    *keep the bets consistent (example $100-$500 a game, not $100 a game and $1200 the next)

    *keep track of teams going on long road trips (fatigue factor) like last night, Orlando started a 4 game WEST road trip, game one they lost ATS, so you dont play against them the rest of this trip.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 5:28 PM ET #15

    *dont bet the side and total in the same game

    This is a good one to parlay.
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    *dont bet the side and total in the same game

    This is a good one to parlay.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 5:29 PM ET #16

    WizardOfOdd: Your Milwaukee play last night does not fit your criteria of "home dog" or "trend" play. How does Milwaukee last night fit your system??? Trying to understand... not meaning to be incriminating or anything...
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    WizardOfOdd: Your Milwaukee play last night does not fit your criteria of "home dog" or "trend" play. How does Milwaukee last night fit your system??? Trying to understand... not meaning to be incriminating or anything...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 5:32 PM ET #17

    classic
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    classic
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackBurton:

    WizardOfOdd: Your Milwaukee play last night does not fit your criteria of "home dog" or "trend" play. How does Milwaukee last night fit your system??? Trying to understand... not meaning to be incriminating or anything...

     

    phillys just came home from a 6 game West road trip.  (also, i played them against their 1st road game of that trip and lost, so i doubled up on the 2nd game and won, and i stopped betting on that road trip for philly)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackBurton:

    WizardOfOdd: Your Milwaukee play last night does not fit your criteria of "home dog" or "trend" play. How does Milwaukee last night fit your system??? Trying to understand... not meaning to be incriminating or anything...

     

    phillys just came home from a 6 game West road trip.  (also, i played them against their 1st road game of that trip and lost, so i doubled up on the 2nd game and won, and i stopped betting on that road trip for philly)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackBurton:

    WizardOfOdd: Your Milwaukee play last night does not fit your criteria of "home dog" or "trend" play. How does Milwaukee last night fit your system??? Trying to understand... not meaning to be incriminating or anything...

    Because there is a general theory that you fade the home team giving points in their first game back home coming off a long road trip (wither West Coast/East Coast road trip). The thinking is if that they are tired and not in it mentally (i.e. they come home they "personal" and family things to tend to after being away for a week) and that = letdown in the first game back. Obviously you pick and choose your spots on this type of play.You have to pick and choose your spots with this, because I wouldnt use this logic on a Boston, Detroit, and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackBurton:

    WizardOfOdd: Your Milwaukee play last night does not fit your criteria of "home dog" or "trend" play. How does Milwaukee last night fit your system??? Trying to understand... not meaning to be incriminating or anything...

    Because there is a general theory that you fade the home team giving points in their first game back home coming off a long road trip (wither West Coast/East Coast road trip). The thinking is if that they are tired and not in it mentally (i.e. they come home they "personal" and family things to tend to after being away for a week) and that = letdown in the first game back. Obviously you pick and choose your spots on this type of play.You have to pick and choose your spots with this, because I wouldnt use this logic on a Boston, Detroit, and so on.

     
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     good thread
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     good thread
     
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    so wizard, philly is a play tonight for you or no?
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    so wizard, philly is a play tonight for you or no?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 5:50 PM ET #22

    Now I see... thanks WizardOfOdd and Smoke_O... I very much appreciate the education... and your patience and tolerance... I'm learning... thanks... really, I appreciate it...  Hope you guys kill 'em..
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    Now I see... thanks WizardOfOdd and Smoke_O... I very much appreciate the education... and your patience and tolerance... I'm learning... thanks... really, I appreciate it...  Hope you guys kill 'em..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 5:51 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by thedegenerate:

    classic

    Now, thats funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedegenerate:

    classic

    Now, thats funny.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 5:54 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:

    Because there is a general theory that you fade the home team giving points in their first game back home coming off a long road trip (wither West Coast/East Coast road trip). The thinking is if that they are tired and not in it mentally (i.e. they come home they "personal" and family things to tend to after being away for a week) and that = letdown in the first game back. Obviously you pick and choose your spots on this type of play.You have to pick and choose your spots with this, because I wouldnt use this logic on a Boston, Detroit, and so on.

     

    well on detroit, they have had 1 road trip that lasted more than 3 games this season and they did come back home and were favored by 11 and covered (won by 12 against the knicks), but if you also bet against them during the road trip, you would have won your money from that.

    on boston, they have also had 1 road trip that lasted more than 3 games, and they came home and were favored against the rockets their first game home and did not cover.  also, you would have made money on their road trip on the 2nd game (against seattle, favored by 10, won by 8)

    i keep it consistent so it does pay back in the long run and you dont miss out on any.  i get what you are saying, but i like to not pick and choose the spots.

    hell, when i take a dog, i take ML on them as well.  only about 15% of the time does the line even matter in games.  if a fav wins, they usually cover, if a dog covers, they usually wins SU. 

    for example, the 5 dogs that covered last night, all won SU. and the other 4 dogs that lost, also lost by the spread.  so to me, the spread dont mean a damn thing.  vegas dont know shit about setting lines, they just want even action most of the times.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:

    Because there is a general theory that you fade the home team giving points in their first game back home coming off a long road trip (wither West Coast/East Coast road trip). The thinking is if that they are tired and not in it mentally (i.e. they come home they "personal" and family things to tend to after being away for a week) and that = letdown in the first game back. Obviously you pick and choose your spots on this type of play.You have to pick and choose your spots with this, because I wouldnt use this logic on a Boston, Detroit, and so on.

     

    well on detroit, they have had 1 road trip that lasted more than 3 games this season and they did come back home and were favored by 11 and covered (won by 12 against the knicks), but if you also bet against them during the road trip, you would have won your money from that.

    on boston, they have also had 1 road trip that lasted more than 3 games, and they came home and were favored against the rockets their first game home and did not cover.  also, you would have made money on their road trip on the 2nd game (against seattle, favored by 10, won by 8)

    i keep it consistent so it does pay back in the long run and you dont miss out on any.  i get what you are saying, but i like to not pick and choose the spots.

    hell, when i take a dog, i take ML on them as well.  only about 15% of the time does the line even matter in games.  if a fav wins, they usually cover, if a dog covers, they usually wins SU. 

    for example, the 5 dogs that covered last night, all won SU. and the other 4 dogs that lost, also lost by the spread.  so to me, the spread dont mean a damn thing.  vegas dont know shit about setting lines, they just want even action most of the times.

     

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2008 - 6:01 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by gus1689:

    so wizard, philly is a play tonight for you or no?

     

    philly would not be a play tonight.  why would they be a play tonight?  just curious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gus1689:

    so wizard, philly is a play tonight for you or no?

     

    philly would not be a play tonight.  why would they be a play tonight?  just curious?

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