• Forums
  • Best Betting Sites
  • Sportsbook Promos
  • Best Sports Betting Apps
  • NFL Betting Forum
  • NBA Betting Forum
  • MLB Betting Forum
  • NHL Betting Forum
  • NCAAF Betting Forum
  • NCAAB Betting Forum
  • Soccer Betting Forum
  • Tennis Betting Forum
  • General Discussion
  • Help Forum
  • Guidelines
  • FAQ
  • Forum Updates
    Covers Logo
    Covers App
    Faster picks. Smarter bets.
    All in the NEW Covers App
    Download on the App Store Download on the Google Play Store
    • Sports
      • NFL
        • Back
        • NFL
        • NFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NFL Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NCAAF
        • Back
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAF Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NCAAF Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NBA
        • Back
        • NBA
        • NBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • NCAAB
        • Back
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • NCAAB Picks
        • Injuries
      • MLB
        • Back
        • MLB
        • MLB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • MLB Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NHL
        • Back
        • NHL
        • NHL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NHL Picks
        • Injuries
      • Soccer
      • UFC
      • WNBA
        • Back
        • WNBA
        • WNBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • WNBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • CFL
        • Back
        • CFL
        • CFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • CFL Picks
      • Golf
        • Back
        • Golf
        • Golf Home
        • Golf Odds
        • Masters Odds
        • PGA Championship Odds
        • US Open Odds
        • British Open Odds
        • Ryder Cup Odds
        • Golf Picks
    • Odds
      • All Odds
      • NFL
      • NCAAF
      • NBA
      • NCAAB
      • MLB
      • NHL
      • Golf
      • Soccer Odds
        • Back
        • Soccer Odds
        • MLS Odds
        • Champions League Odds
        • Premier League Odds
      • UFC
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • Election Odds
      • Futures
        • Back
        • Futures
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • MLB
        • NHL
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAF
      • Sports Odds History
    • Picks
      • All Picks
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • NHL
      • MLB
      • NCAAF
      • NCAAB
      • Golf
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • User Picks
      • Team User Picks
      • Consensus Picks
        • Back
        • Consensus Picks
        • All Consensus Picks
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • NHL
        • MLB
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAB
        • CFL
        • WNBA
        • Consensus FAQ
        • Public Money
    • Prop Projections
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • MLB
      • NHL
    • Betting
      • US Betting Sites
      • Canada Betting Sites
      • Sportsbook Reviews
      • States
        • Back
        • States
        • US Legal Tracker
        • Revenue Tracker
        • Arizona
        • Arkansas
        • California
        • Colorado
        • Connecticut
        • DC
        • Florida
        • Georgia
        • Illinois
        • Indiana
        • Iowa
        • Kansas
        • Kentucky
        • Louisiana
        • Maine
        • Maryland
        • Massachusetts
        • Michigan
        • Mississippi
        • Missouri
        • Nevada
        • New Hampshire
        • New Jersey
        • New York
        • North Carolina
        • Ohio
        • Oregon
        • Pennsylvania
        • Tennessee
        • Texas
        • Vermont
        • Virginia
        • West Virginia
        • Wyoming
      • Provinces
        • Back
        • Provinces
        • Alberta
        • British Columbia
        • Manitoba
        • New Brunswick
        • Newfoundland and Labrador
        • Northwest Territories
        • Nova Scotia
        • Nunavut
        • Ontario
        • Prince Edward Island
        • Quebec (English)
        • Quebec (francais)
        • Saskatchewan
        • Yukon
      • By Sport
        • Back
        • By Sport
        • Baseball
        • Basketball
        • Boxing
        • College Football
        • F1
        • Football
        • Super Bowl
        • Golf
        • Hockey
        • Horse Racing
        • March Madness
        • Soccer
        • UFC
        • World Cup
      • Betting Apps
        • Back
        • Betting Apps
        • Best Sports Betting Apps USA
        • Ontario Sports Betting Apps
      • Rest of World
        • Back
        • Rest of World
        • UK Betting Offers
          • Back
          • UK Betting Offers
          • UK Betting Sites
          • bet365 Bonus Code UK
          • 888Sport Promo Code UK
          • William Hill Sign up Offer
          • Betway Sign up Offer
          • BetVictor Bonus Code UK
      • Betting Guides
        • Back
        • Betting Guides
        • All Guides
        • Glossary
        • Betting Calculators
          • Back
          • Betting Calculators
          • Odds Converter
          • Parlay Calculator
        • Futures Betting Guide
        • Moneyline Betting Guide
        • Over/Under Betting Guide
        • Parlay Betting Guide
        • Point Spread Betting Guide
        • Prop Betting Guide
        • Sports Betting Guides
          • Back
          • Sports Betting Guides
          • How To Bet On Sports Guide
          • NFL Betting Guide
          • NHL Betting Guide
          • NBA Betting Guide
          • MLB Betting Guide
          • NCAAB Betting Guide
          • NCAAF Betting Guide
          • Golf Betting Guide
          • Tennis Betting Guide
        • Teaser Betting Guide
      • Betting News
        • Back
        • Betting News
        • All News
        • Industry News
        • Podcasts
        • Covers Videos
        • Covers Writers
        • Offers & Boosts
    • Promos
      • Sportsbook Promos
      • Canada Sportsbook Promos
      • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • bet365 Bonus Code
        • BET99 Promo Code
        • BetMGM Bonus Code
        • BetRivers Bonus Code
        • Caesars Sportsbook Promo
        • DraftKings Promo Code
        • Fanatics Sportsbook Promo
        • FanDuel Promo Code
        • Hard Rock Bet Promo Code
        • Sports Interaction Promo
        • Stake Promo Code
        • theScore Bet Promo Code
        • TonyBet Promo Code
      • Bonuses By Region
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Region
        • Arkansas Promos
        • Arizona Promos
        • Colorado Promos
        • Connecticut Promos
        • DC Promos
        • Illinois Promos
        • Indiana Promos
        • Iowa Promos
        • Kansas Promos
        • Kentucky Promos
        • Louisiana Promos
        • Maine Promos
        • Maryland Promos
        • Massachusetts Promos
        • Michigan Promos
        • Missouri Promos
        • New Jersey Promos
        • New York Promos
        • North Carolina Promos
        • Ohio Promos
        • Pennsylvania Promos
        • Tennessee Promos
        • Vermont Promos
        • Virginia Promos
        • West Virginia Promos
        • Wyoming Promos
    • Forum & Contests
      • All Forums
      • NFL Betting Forum
      • MLB Betting Forum
      • NCAAB Betting Forum
      • NCAAF Betting Forum
      • NBA Betting Forum
      • NHL Betting Forum
      • Soccer Betting Forum
      • Contests
        • Back
        • Contests
        • Contests Home
        • Streak Survivor
        • King of Covers
        • My Contests
    • Casino
      • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Back
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes No-Deposit Bonuses
        • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Back
          • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Card Crush
          • Casino.click
          • Chanced Casino
          • Crown Coins Casino
          • FreeSpin Casino
          • LoneStar
          • McLuck
          • Mega Bonanza Casino
          • PlayFame
          • Pulsz
          • Stake.us
      • US Casinos
        • Back
        • US Casinos
        • US Online Casinos
        • US Online Casino Bonuses
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • bet365 Casino Promo Code
          • BetRivers Casino Promo
          • Borgata Casino Bonus Code
          • Caesars Casino Bonus Code
          • DraftKings Casino Promo
          • Fanatics Casino Promo
          • FanDuel Casino Promo Code
          • Golden Nugget Casino Promo
          • Hard Rock Bet Casino Promo
          • Hollywood Casino Promo Code
      • Canada Casinos
        • Back
        • Canada Casinos
        • Canada Online Casinos
        • Provinces
          • Back
          • Provinces
          • Alberta Online Casino
          • BC Online Casino
          • Ontario Online Casinos
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • BC.GAME Bonus Code
          • Cloudbet Promo Code
          • RainBet Promo Code
          • Roobet Promo Code
          • Shuffle Promo Code
          • Thrill Promo Code
    • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Market Apps
      • Prediction Market Promos
      • Kalshi Promo Code
      • Kalshi Referral Code
      • Polymarket Promo Code
      • Polymarket Referral Code
      • DraftKings Predictions Promo Code
      • Novig Promo Code
      • ProphetX Promo Code
      • Underdog Promo Code
      • Betr Promo Code
      • OG Promo Code
      • Fanatics Markets Promo Code
      • Plus500 Promo Code
      • Gemini Predictions Promo Code
    • NFL Week 2
      NFL Week 2
      • NFL Odds
      • NFL Picks
      • NFL Prediction Markets
      • NFL Betting Sites
    Covers Account
    Log in Create account
    Join free Log in
    All Forums | NBA Betting Forum

    CrazyMilkMan's 2015 PBA Philippine Cup Betting Thread

    «First Previous 99100101 ... 106107108 Next Last»
    CrazyMilkMan
    wakeesalud
    CPA
    RandySee
    John_Anthony_22
    ...
    Participants:
    Search model icon
    Views: 190922
    Posts: 2686
    «First Previous 99100101 ... 106107108 Next Last»
     
    CrazyMilkMan
    CrazyMilkMan
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2008
    Posts: 25442
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 1:16 AM ET #2451

    Same as with Japeth so please pick another player.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Same as with Japeth so please pick another player.
     
    CrazyMilkMan
    CrazyMilkMan
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2008
    Posts: 25442
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 1:16 AM ET #2452

    Same as with Japeth so please pick another player.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Same as with Japeth so please pick another player.
     
    CrazyMilkMan
    CrazyMilkMan
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2008
    Posts: 25442
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 1:18 AM ET #2453

    Quote Originally Posted by ahumanbeatbox12:

    If it goes up +6 what you on? Alaska?



    I might consider taking Alaska. They were closed at 4.5 in Game 3
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by ahumanbeatbox12:

    If it goes up +6 what you on? Alaska?



    I might consider taking Alaska. They were closed at 4.5 in Game 3
     
    wakeesalud
    wakeesalud
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2015
    Posts: 52
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 1:23 AM ET #2454

    Their bets are wd me now milkman. Fyi. All players gamble. PBA IS a gambling machine. Its all about d money. Same with NBA
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Their bets are wd me now milkman. Fyi. All players gamble. PBA IS a gambling machine. Its all about d money. Same with NBA
     
    wakeesalud
    wakeesalud
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2015
    Posts: 52
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 1:24 AM ET #2455

    All players know the odds ... Pba nba ncaa uaap... So dont pretend to be ignorant... College players are being bought. How much more pros
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    All players know the odds ... Pba nba ncaa uaap... So dont pretend to be ignorant... College players are being bought. How much more pros
     
    CrazyMilkMan
    CrazyMilkMan
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2008
    Posts: 25442
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 1:32 AM ET #2456

    They are aware of the line but the two players I mentioned do not gamble on pba games.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    They are aware of the line but the two players I mentioned do not gamble on pba games.
     
    CPA
    CPA
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Sep, 2011
    Posts: 394
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 1:34 AM ET #2457

    not gonna lie, I have no idea what is going on in here...


    what the hell are we talking about in this thead? 
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    not gonna lie, I have no idea what is going on in here...


    what the hell are we talking about in this thead? 
     
    RandySee
    RandySee
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2014
    Posts: 1381
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 1:35 AM ET #2458

    Quote Originally Posted by wakeesalud:

    All players know the odds ... Pba nba ncaa uaap... So dont pretend to be ignorant... College players are being bought. How much more pros


    Yes its true..anyway..Question bro, why are you betting alaska if the total bets on both side are 300K each...whats the logic?
    is that alaska with the points or Moneyline?>

    thanks for clarifying
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by wakeesalud:

    All players know the odds ... Pba nba ncaa uaap... So dont pretend to be ignorant... College players are being bought. How much more pros


    Yes its true..anyway..Question bro, why are you betting alaska if the total bets on both side are 300K each...whats the logic?
    is that alaska with the points or Moneyline?>

    thanks for clarifying
     
    John_Anthony_22
    John_Anthony_22
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2015
    Posts: 258
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 1:36 AM ET #2459

    @wakeesalud,  STFU dumbass. please. fck off. you know nothing you dumbfck.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    @wakeesalud,  STFU dumbass. please. fck off. you know nothing you dumbfck.
     
    RandySee
    RandySee
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2014
    Posts: 1381
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 1:37 AM ET #2460

    clarify please
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    clarify please
     
    clingybear
    clingybear
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2015
    Posts: 145
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 1:47 AM ET #2461

    Hey milk who would u take later on pba? Ive been following ur plays recently on nba good job on the bounce back
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Hey milk who would u take later on pba? Ive been following ur plays recently on nba good job on the bounce back
     
    RandySee
    RandySee
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2014
    Posts: 1381
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 2:08 AM ET #2462

    so?
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    so?
     
    TheMoneyMaker17
    TheMoneyMaker17
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2013
    Posts: 107
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 2:13 AM ET #2463

    Smb -4.5 300k
    Over 173.5 200k
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Smb -4.5 300k
    Over 173.5 200k
     
    RandySee
    RandySee
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2014
    Posts: 1381
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 2:17 AM ET #2464

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyMaker17:

    Smb -4.5 300k
    Over 173.5 200k


    Are you and Wakesalud one and the same?
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyMaker17:

    Smb -4.5 300k
    Over 173.5 200k


    Are you and Wakesalud one and the same?
     
    wakeesalud
    wakeesalud
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2015
    Posts: 52
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 2:22 AM ET #2465

    My bet is alaska fyi
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    My bet is alaska fyi
     
    RandySee
    RandySee
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2014
    Posts: 1381
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 2:25 AM ET #2466

    oh okay.

    Im on Alaska too..
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    oh okay.

    Im on Alaska too..
     
    clingybear
    clingybear
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2015
    Posts: 145
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 2:27 AM ET #2467

    PBA Finals Gm4
    HT:
    ALA+4 vs SMB 85
    FT:
    ALA+6 vs SMB 173
    Close 5pm!

    Any thoughts milk?
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    PBA Finals Gm4
    HT:
    ALA+4 vs SMB 85
    FT:
    ALA+6 vs SMB 173
    Close 5pm!

    Any thoughts milk?
     
    eggshog
    eggshog
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Apr, 2014
    Posts: 2793
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 2:41 AM ET #2468

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyMilkMan:

    Chris Tiu do not gamble.

    Yeah. I know Tiu and Japeth in person and this dude is a liar. I know a lot of guys who fix games, but I didn't know that they bet on games. I know Arwind fixes games. Castro, Lee(in his UAAP days, don't know anymore), Yeo, Cardona, Baracael, Barroca, the UE team that lost to DLSU, and countless others that I won't name.

    Think about it, why would they risk their career on something that isn't sure money?
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyMilkMan:

    Chris Tiu do not gamble.

    Yeah. I know Tiu and Japeth in person and this dude is a liar. I know a lot of guys who fix games, but I didn't know that they bet on games. I know Arwind fixes games. Castro, Lee(in his UAAP days, don't know anymore), Yeo, Cardona, Baracael, Barroca, the UE team that lost to DLSU, and countless others that I won't name.

    Think about it, why would they risk their career on something that isn't sure money?
     
    Insidetip
    Insidetip
    Rookie
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2014
    Posts: 637
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 2:53 AM ET #2469

    Final pik milk. 
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Final pik milk. 
     
    wakeesalud
    wakeesalud
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2015
    Posts: 52
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 3:03 AM ET #2470

    Duhhh lots of analysts here but all end up losing. Better watch d game than bet your 100pesos
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Duhhh lots of analysts here but all end up losing. Better watch d game than bet your 100pesos
     
    johntan
    johntan
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2005
    Posts: 33
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 3:07 AM ET #2471

    odds now is smb-3.0. the odds keep on going down. what u think of this guys? smb or alaska?
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    odds now is smb-3.0. the odds keep on going down. what u think of this guys? smb or alaska?
     
    wakeesalud
    wakeesalud
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2015
    Posts: 52
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 3:12 AM ET #2472

    Alaska
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Alaska
     
    TheMoneyMaker17
    TheMoneyMaker17
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2013
    Posts: 107
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 3:15 AM ET #2473

    Smb
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Smb
     
    TheMoneyMaker17
    TheMoneyMaker17
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Mar, 2013
    Posts: 107
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 3:17 AM ET #2474

    Smb
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Smb
     
     
    CrazyMilkMan
    CrazyMilkMan
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2008
    Posts: 25442
    Posted: Jan. 14, 2015 - 3:29 AM ET #2475

    Quote Originally Posted by wakeesalud:

    Duhhh lots of analysts here but all end up losing. Better watch d game than bet your 100pesos


    That's the purpose of this thread. To analyze games and help each other to win. I'd give you a month or two and you'll disappear in the forums like most would.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Quote Originally Posted by wakeesalud:

    Duhhh lots of analysts here but all end up losing. Better watch d game than bet your 100pesos


    That's the purpose of this thread. To analyze games and help each other to win. I'd give you a month or two and you'll disappear in the forums like most would.
    All Forums | NBA Betting Forum
    «First Previous 99100101 ... 106107108 Next Last»

    Hot Forums IconHot Forum Topics

    • 🤢🥴💩_ Fubah's risky baseball bets _🥶😲🥵 449,390 Covers arrow
    • Sunday 09/20/2026 574 Covers arrow
    • 🏈🏈🏈 Fubah2's risky CFB bets 259,610 Covers arrow
    • PART DEUX 168 Covers arrow
    • Flawed Logic: and Bad Decisions: NFL Edition 4,212 Covers arrow
    • Dogs biting today? 3,939 Covers arrow
    • NFL LOCKED IN! 99,194 Covers arrow
    • _📌 😎 Fubah's bets for NFL 2026: Week 02 🚩🚩 10,458 Covers arrow
    • Philadelphia Eagles @ Tennessee Titans 5,435 Covers arrow
    • Colts vs chiefs in-game live 1,457 Covers arrow

    Warning - External Link

    Report User

    Thank you for reporting
    This content is abusive or harmful
    This post is spam
    An error has occurred
    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

    Delete Post

    Are you sure you would like to remove this post?

    Remove Thread

    Are you sure you would like to remove this thread?

    Scan Results

    Login/Register

    Happy to have you join the conversation. To do so, please login or create an account.
    Accounts are free and easy to create.

    Search


    Loading…

    Loading…

    About Us
    Contact Us
    Careers
    Our Team
    Brand
    Testimonials
    Betting Guides
    Sportsbook Reviews
    Betting News
    Podcasts
    Responsible Gambling
    Betting Sites
    US Betting Sites
    Canada Betting Sites
    Canada Casinos
    Best Betting Apps
    Contests
    Streak Survivor
    King of Covers
    Ultimate Race
    Office Pools
    The Covers community has
    810,221
    lifetime members worldwide
    Join our community today
    Covers 30 Years Logo Established in 1995,
    Covers is the world
    leader in sports
    betting information.
    21+
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER
    Help Privacy Terms of Service Cookies Sitemap Forum
    YouTube logo
    Facebook logo
    Twitter logo
    Instagram logo
    LinkedIn logo
    Google News logo
    Covers is verified safe by:
    Evalon Logo Logo GPWA Logo GDPR logo Logo GeoTrust logo Logo PCI DSS logo Logo
    Copyright © 1995 - 2026 CS Media Ltd. All Rights Reserved.
    If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.