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    Before u put another penny on the Cavs read the article

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    richbrooks
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 2:06 PM ET #1

    https://www.businessinsider.com/lebron-letting-teammates-fail-2014-11

     

    Clearly he did quit. Clearly he doesn't care. If these guys shots aren't falling its up to you Lebron to step up. I had a good amount on the Over and the Cavs just stopped playing. How can we trust any plays with the Cavs. Side or totals? Who knows If Lebron will play? Who know if they will push the pace like K.Love did with the T'Wolves.   After reading this and watching the video. I feel even worst about my loss last night.      Note I was thinking of playing the OVER tonight cause I like UTAH. they push the pace and have good talent, but its UTAH and I highly Doubt Lebron will be to fired up to play this game.

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/lebron-letting-teammates-fail-2014-11

     

    Clearly he did quit. Clearly he doesn't care. If these guys shots aren't falling its up to you Lebron to step up. I had a good amount on the Over and the Cavs just stopped playing. How can we trust any plays with the Cavs. Side or totals? Who knows If Lebron will play? Who know if they will push the pace like K.Love did with the T'Wolves.   After reading this and watching the video. I feel even worst about my loss last night.      Note I was thinking of playing the OVER tonight cause I like UTAH. they push the pace and have good talent, but its UTAH and I highly Doubt Lebron will be to fired up to play this game.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 2:14 PM ET #2

    Thanks for sharing
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    Thanks for sharing
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 2:17 PM ET #3

    Think Cavs win today but am not confident at all to lay the points
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    Think Cavs win today but am not confident at all to lay the points
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 2:26 PM ET #4

    What do you guys make of this? this is serious stuff. Between him playing like last night and him atleast trying to play, pushing pace, assist, ect.  He didn't even any assists last night.  wft do we do with Cavs games?? 
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    What do you guys make of this? this is serious stuff. Between him playing like last night and him atleast trying to play, pushing pace, assist, ect.  He didn't even any assists last night.  wft do we do with Cavs games?? 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 2:47 PM ET #5

    Damn good read bro
    Thz for posting
    I actually believe it
    Dude was just standing around
    When this team picks up, they are going to be a beast though
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    Damn good read bro
    Thz for posting
    I actually believe it
    Dude was just standing around
    When this team picks up, they are going to be a beast though
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 2:56 PM ET #6

    IMHO 
    The Cavs will show up tonight just like after they lost to NYK, they showed up for the Bulls game.
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    IMHO 
    The Cavs will show up tonight just like after they lost to NYK, they showed up for the Bulls game.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 3:47 PM ET #7

    this is appalling if this is true.  of course your team falls into bad habits when you force them to play 4 on 5.  who does lebron think he is. 
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    this is appalling if this is true.  of course your team falls into bad habits when you force them to play 4 on 5.  who does lebron think he is. 
     
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    play the game to the best of your ability don't try to be a puppet master and politician.  do your job.  I don't know why but this made me passionately upset.  I have respect for lebron james obviously but if he is consciously setting his team up for failure by not trying he should be fined.
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    play the game to the best of your ability don't try to be a puppet master and politician.  do your job.  I don't know why but this made me passionately upset.  I have respect for lebron james obviously but if he is consciously setting his team up for failure by not trying he should be fined.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 3:55 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by sheeklouch:

    play the game to the best of your ability don't try to be a puppet master and politician.  do your job.  I don't know why but this made me passionately upset.  I have respect for lebron james obviously but if he is consciously setting his team up for failure by not trying he should be fined.

    Fckin right man. It should be investigation but, no need its clear cut he doesn't care... Maybe he needs more Money . LOL all that money and lets take games off .  Like RANDY MOSS "I Play when I want"  Like Lebron or Not    He Clearly Plays when he wants ,and that's a fact!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheeklouch:

    play the game to the best of your ability don't try to be a puppet master and politician.  do your job.  I don't know why but this made me passionately upset.  I have respect for lebron james obviously but if he is consciously setting his team up for failure by not trying he should be fined.

    Fckin right man. It should be investigation but, no need its clear cut he doesn't care... Maybe he needs more Money . LOL all that money and lets take games off .  Like RANDY MOSS "I Play when I want"  Like Lebron or Not    He Clearly Plays when he wants ,and that's a fact!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 4:10 PM ET #10

    I was listening to sports talk radio today at lunch and they basically said they exact same thing. He basically wants them to fail so they can adapt into his way of playing.

    After watching the game yesterday I knew something was wrong. Lebron normally controls the ball, he hustles for steals and rebounds. He made a few passes on the inside but Cavs players just couldn't convert.

    Irving put up so many bricks it was horrid to watch.

    I never liked Lebron James but I respect his game and do feel he is the best player in the NBA. Although I totally understand where he is coming from 100% I don't agree with it. Like SHEEKLOUCH said you gotta play to the best of your ability and stop politicking. Lebron needs to tighten up.

    This isn't meant to bash LBJ, I don't like him as I said but I respect him.

    As for bettors wondering what to do in these Cavs games? Simple, the same thing I said to myself after last night's game...STAY AWAY until LBJ plays LBJ ball.
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    I was listening to sports talk radio today at lunch and they basically said they exact same thing. He basically wants them to fail so they can adapt into his way of playing.

    After watching the game yesterday I knew something was wrong. Lebron normally controls the ball, he hustles for steals and rebounds. He made a few passes on the inside but Cavs players just couldn't convert.

    Irving put up so many bricks it was horrid to watch.

    I never liked Lebron James but I respect his game and do feel he is the best player in the NBA. Although I totally understand where he is coming from 100% I don't agree with it. Like SHEEKLOUCH said you gotta play to the best of your ability and stop politicking. Lebron needs to tighten up.

    This isn't meant to bash LBJ, I don't like him as I said but I respect him.

    As for bettors wondering what to do in these Cavs games? Simple, the same thing I said to myself after last night's game...STAY AWAY until LBJ plays LBJ ball.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 4:20 PM ET #11

    80% of the public on the Cavs yet the line drops from 6 to 5.5.  .   If Lebron plays like last night Vegas might have to hook him up if you know what I mean.   Vegas knows whats up. By the time the public catches on it will be to late. I don't blame them heck, who can blame them?  watch even Kevin Love isn't playing hard. 
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    80% of the public on the Cavs yet the line drops from 6 to 5.5.  .   If Lebron plays like last night Vegas might have to hook him up if you know what I mean.   Vegas knows whats up. By the time the public catches on it will be to late. I don't blame them heck, who can blame them?  watch even Kevin Love isn't playing hard. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 4:26 PM ET #12

    KOBE would never pull this kind of chit.  He is playing his azz off. Lazy Lebron the loser that Choked and cramped during the playoffs needs a excuse for his laziness and failures. Now  he resorts to the Ultimate Cop out  QUITTING  ....  

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    KOBE would never pull this kind of chit.  He is playing his azz off. Lazy Lebron the loser that Choked and cramped during the playoffs needs a excuse for his laziness and failures. Now  he resorts to the Ultimate Cop out  QUITTING  ....  

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 4:49 PM ET #13

    Wow great read!

    I think tonight the cavs have to win this, its not even about lebron letting the team struggle This is the jazz, you should beat them up!!!! 
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    Wow great read!

    I think tonight the cavs have to win this, its not even about lebron letting the team struggle This is the jazz, you should beat them up!!!! 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 4:51 PM ET #14

    give it some time, when the big 3 formed in Miami they went 8-7 first 15 games. these guys aren't gonna run the league overnight, chill out
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    give it some time, when the big 3 formed in Miami they went 8-7 first 15 games. these guys aren't gonna run the league overnight, chill out
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 4:59 PM ET #15

    Kobe would go 14 for 37 and shoot his team out of the game
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    Kobe would go 14 for 37 and shoot his team out of the game
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 5:05 PM ET #16

    What if Lebron played like Joakim Noah or a Kenneth Faried?  Players who leave it out on the floor.  No, Bron bron is a bay bay.  To busy conjuring them up.. throwing up his triangles and triple 6's pounding on his chest.. sellout

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    What if Lebron played like Joakim Noah or a Kenneth Faried?  Players who leave it out on the floor.  No, Bron bron is a bay bay.  To busy conjuring them up.. throwing up his triangles and triple 6's pounding on his chest.. sellout

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 5:07 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by bobmaloogatimesfive:

    Kobe would go 14 for 37 and shoot his team out of the game

    bob but the effort? the effort? he is getting paid a tremendous amount of money to play not quit.   if he doesn't want to score atleast drive and make some assists.  He hasn't played with any effort this season. I know its only 3 games but ,wtf we aren't talking missed shots or rebounds. we are talking quitting...Bob no Excuse for no Effort... He isn't GOD. If I was his teammate honestly I wouldn't play hard...    

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobmaloogatimesfive:

    Kobe would go 14 for 37 and shoot his team out of the game

    bob but the effort? the effort? he is getting paid a tremendous amount of money to play not quit.   if he doesn't want to score atleast drive and make some assists.  He hasn't played with any effort this season. I know its only 3 games but ,wtf we aren't talking missed shots or rebounds. we are talking quitting...Bob no Excuse for no Effort... He isn't GOD. If I was his teammate honestly I wouldn't play hard...    

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revo23:

    What if Lebron played like Joakim Noah or a Kenneth Faried?  Players who leave it out on the floor.  No, Bron bron is a bay bay.  To busy conjuring them up.. throwing up his triangles and triple 6's pounding on his chest.. sellout

    Damn right he is even dragging Kevin Love down... Kevin Love isn't playing nearly as hard as he did with the T'Wolves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revo23:

    What if Lebron played like Joakim Noah or a Kenneth Faried?  Players who leave it out on the floor.  No, Bron bron is a bay bay.  To busy conjuring them up.. throwing up his triangles and triple 6's pounding on his chest.. sellout

    Damn right he is even dragging Kevin Love down... Kevin Love isn't playing nearly as hard as he did with the T'Wolves.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 5:14 PM ET #19

    good read 
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    good read 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2014 - 5:41 PM ET #21

    Why would anyone bet the Cavs consistantly in the beginning of the season? Haven't you learned already.... and this doen'st just pertain to basketball. Just because you have a team full of all stars doesn't mean they'll play like one..... it takes time to Jell and to mesh.... Cleveland won't get out of the 2nd round granted come play off time they will be a much better team than now but with respect to the rest of the teams they'll won't. 

    This isn't the 2010 Heat..... who ALSO struggled a lot in the first half of the season. Those guys had a proven system.... D wade whos won a ring.... Bosh who had a ton of pedigree not to mention a brotherhood between all 3 of them coming in on the same draft class..... 

    Kyrie is a ball chuck.... he's hurt every other game hes done DIK in the league.... where D wade is a champion HOFer. K love again done DIK.... super soft can't play defense for shiit..... minnesottas system is horrible to begin so his stats are over inflated and pumped up..... You can routinely fade the Cavs for a solid portion of the season. 
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    Why would anyone bet the Cavs consistantly in the beginning of the season? Haven't you learned already.... and this doen'st just pertain to basketball. Just because you have a team full of all stars doesn't mean they'll play like one..... it takes time to Jell and to mesh.... Cleveland won't get out of the 2nd round granted come play off time they will be a much better team than now but with respect to the rest of the teams they'll won't. 

    This isn't the 2010 Heat..... who ALSO struggled a lot in the first half of the season. Those guys had a proven system.... D wade whos won a ring.... Bosh who had a ton of pedigree not to mention a brotherhood between all 3 of them coming in on the same draft class..... 

    Kyrie is a ball chuck.... he's hurt every other game hes done DIK in the league.... where D wade is a champion HOFer. K love again done DIK.... super soft can't play defense for shiit..... minnesottas system is horrible to begin so his stats are over inflated and pumped up..... You can routinely fade the Cavs for a solid portion of the season. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by richbrooks:

    KOBE would never pull this kind of chit.  He is playing his azz off. Lazy Lebron the loser that Choked and cramped during the playoffs needs a excuse for his laziness and failures. Now  he resorts to the Ultimate Cop out  QUITTING  ....  

     

    Kobe is the sole reason LA is irrelevant this year. He looks like JR Smith out there. Its not impressive to shoot 37 times a game and only score 39. I agree about the effort, he always goes all out however its now at the expense of his team. I have a ton of respect but this dude is exactly what the article said, a rock on your lawn you cant get rid of. All he wants is his points now that he has 5 rings he could care less if they go 0-82 as long as hes averaging 30 a game. I have a ton of respect for Kobe but in no way do I believe he has ever made a team better. Players like Lebron, Parker, Wade, Dirk they make everyone around them better while Kobe says gimme the ball and get out of the way. Great attitude at the end of games (an attitude LeBron lacks tremendously) but horrible one to have during the span of a season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richbrooks:

    KOBE would never pull this kind of chit.  He is playing his azz off. Lazy Lebron the loser that Choked and cramped during the playoffs needs a excuse for his laziness and failures. Now  he resorts to the Ultimate Cop out  QUITTING  ....  

     

    Kobe is the sole reason LA is irrelevant this year. He looks like JR Smith out there. Its not impressive to shoot 37 times a game and only score 39. I agree about the effort, he always goes all out however its now at the expense of his team. I have a ton of respect but this dude is exactly what the article said, a rock on your lawn you cant get rid of. All he wants is his points now that he has 5 rings he could care less if they go 0-82 as long as hes averaging 30 a game. I have a ton of respect for Kobe but in no way do I believe he has ever made a team better. Players like Lebron, Parker, Wade, Dirk they make everyone around them better while Kobe says gimme the ball and get out of the way. Great attitude at the end of games (an attitude LeBron lacks tremendously) but horrible one to have during the span of a season.

     
     
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    great read. 
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    great read. 
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