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You expressed my thoughts about Lebron's shooting performance in game 5 and the probabilities of him duplicating it in game 6... I don't think people are thinking about it.  If his shot isn't falling early on, this will be big trouble for the Cavs.

It's a shame the Warriors didn't get to close it out on their home floor, and they can thank Green for that... but it is what it is...


Another thing, I was big on the Cavs in game 6 against Toronto, and big on Warriors in this game, for the same reason.  Regardless of the win in GS, the Cavs cannot be thrilled about the idea of having to win game 7 on the Warriors home court, with their full roster in tact... that is a big psychological edge for the Warriors in this game.  The Cavs (just like the Raptors) will not be able to avoid thinking ahead... while the Warriors are basically playing with house money in game 6...

GS should be loose, with all of the pressure falling on the Cavs...
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lol btw i wasnt arguing with you about whos better mj or lbj
i was just asking what you thought of his shooting in Miami?
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

 

Bird shot over 70% back to back games.
Magic shot over 60% 3 straight games
MJ in just his 1st and 2cd NBA finals games shot 55% and 83%




That 2nd game against the Lakers is the greatest performance I have ever seen in an NBA game...
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

LBJ put on a strong performance, that's the kind of performance superstars should be doing.

If he could do that more often then you'd have a case of comparing him to MJ, but he just has not done it very often.

He did not really shot great, only 53% but he was 50% on 3's with 16 rebs and 7 assists.

That game had more to do with helping his team win then many of the triple doubles he's gotten in the finals, even though he did not get a triple double.

LBJ still remains one of the great players who has not shot 55% or better in back to back games in the finals while helping his team win those games or the series.

He did it one time when Spurs crushed the Heat 4-1 and he did it when the games were decided already.

Bird shot over 70% back to back games.
Magic shot over 60% 3 straight games
MJ in just his 1st and 2cd NBA finals games shot 55% and 83%

LBJ has never come close to any of this and it took him many, many tries and his team getting blown-out to even get back to back games of 55% or better.

Will he do it 2 more games ?
one game, very possible....two games, highly improbable
 
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theclaw, always a good read, attached to informative 'wake-up' stats.

appreciate your effort & contribution to the NBA FORUM..well done

 
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Posted: #456

dude, interesting discussion.....good stuff all the way around.

 
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Nice thread!
 
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Warriors +3 (-120) over Cavs 6 units to win 5 units

Warriors 1st half +2 (-123) --- 2.46 units to win 2 units

We'll be adding to these but let's wait out the line.

Powerhouse teams like the Warriors have been nothing but money in 2cd close-out games over history, it's one of the best spots you'll ever find.....................................
 
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Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

dude, interesting discussion.....good stuff all the way around.


For my money, Claw is the most valuable contributor to this forum! And not just BBall, but also football... I always read his thread!

2nd most valuable:  MGMprofits
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Was just about to say that Great teams win games like this next one... if the Warriors are truly a great team, and I think they are, this is a money game!

This is the kind of betting opportunity that comes along very rarely... getting a legendary team receiving points in a spot like this... 
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

 

Powerhouse teams like the Warriors have been nothing but money in 2cd close-out games over history, it's one of the best spots you'll ever find.....................................


As a point of reference:  2008 Boston Celtics (one of the teams we have discussed among the most dominant ever) had a 2nd close out game against the Lakers...


Bos:  131 
LAL:   92


Biggest blowout in Finals history...
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Quote Originally Posted by Duderonomy:

Was just about to say that Great teams win games like this next one... if the Warriors are truly a great team, and I think they are, this is a money game!

This is the kind of betting opportunity that comes along very rarely... getting a legendary team receiving points in a spot like this... 
That's exactly the way I see it, I totally coincide, may I ad, the CAVS will see a well rested DG, unless James & Irving could even come close to their performance @ GSW it's all over Thursday night...getting GSW in this spot as a dog play may just look to good, the balance here at LV books are containing balance  CLE -2.5/-3 the public is eating it up (this happens when teams capture a road WIN) enjoy the game, the results should be interesting....GSW+3 @-110  2dimes
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Duderonomy:



As a point of reference:  2008 Boston Celtics (one of the teams we have discussed among the most dominant ever) had a 2nd close out game against the Lakers...


Bos:  131 
LAL:   92


Biggest blowout in Finals history...


Yep, very few teams need 3 close-out games to win a series and the few times it happens the teams have been very closely matched according to my power ratings.

My PR's had Boston way better then LA, that was one of my first big calls on this site , Boston to win series and they were the dog in series with home court ad and Boston game 6 using this same method, as I first posted during the conference finals in 2008 on the site.

When OKC went to a 3rd close-out game VS Warriors PR I had the Warriors way better, these are the situations teams come back,  not in situations like we have here, Warriors are clearly the better team. 
 
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GL Claw 

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Looking back at LBJ in game 6 in 2013 when his Heat trailed the Spurs 3-2 and they need the game.

LBJ 11 of 26 or 42.3%

The remainder of the team 27 of 55, almost 50%

LBJ 1 of 5 from 3's or 20% the rest of team , 10 of 14.

LBJ did go 9 of 12 from the line with 12 rebs and 11 assists or some such thing, he did have a triple double but the true story in the most important area he was once again , not very good and that was at home.

In regular season LBJ was 56.5% and 40.6% from 3's. That was one of the best regular seasons in his career and in history of coarse he needed to get other great off players by his side to do it,  but when the going got tough VS the better teams the guy cashed in his chips.

Let's see if he can get it done here tonight. 
 
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Also if you're asking me will LeBron & Irving score 40 or more its again tonight?

I don't think so but tonight we'll see won't we?
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Quote Originally Posted by Macwestie1:

Also if you're asking me will LeBron & Irving score 40 or more its again tonight?

I don't think so but tonight we'll see won't we?

Yes I agree, not likely. LBJ came-up big when Warriors may have relaxed but not likely Warriors relax here tonight, we'll see what LBJ and Irving do in this very important spot.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

theclaw, always a good read, attached to informative 'wake-up' stats.

appreciate your effort & contribution to the NBA FORUM..well done



 
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Talked me into the W's.
I really see zig zag happening year after year in the NBA, any thoughts on it.


 
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Still....no credit for the Cavs. Its not all about Irving and Lebron bud. People are sleeping on JR and love,especially love. You are a dubs fan through and through. It's ok to admit amigo 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

Still....no credit for the Cavs. Its not all about Irving and Lebron bud. People are sleeping on JR and love,especially love. You are a dubs fan through and through. It's ok to admit amigo 


Siding with history, it's very, very strong in this spot , easily over 80% maybe close to 90 %.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

Warriors +3 (-120) over Cavs 6 units to win 5 units

Warriors 1st half +2 (-123) --- 2.46 units to win 2 units

We'll be adding to these but let's wait out the line.

Powerhouse teams like the Warriors have been nothing but money in 2cd close-out games over history, it's one of the best spots you'll ever find.....................................


We add additional plays.....................

Warriors +3 (-130)  over Cavs --- 6.5 unit to win 5 units
Warriors 1st half +2 (-123) --- 3.69 units to win 3 units

Gives us a best bet play on Warriors


Pending best bet play on Warriors to win the series

Pending play of Warriors -1.5 games 


We could be in for a major score tonight...............................  
 
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History......have fun with the game
 
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Because we have what amounts to ML plays with Warriors to win series and -1.5 games on tonight's game , a better stratergy would be take Warriors with the points because if Cavs do win a close game we could cover tonight and still can win series in game 7 .

And make additional play in game 7, much better options to me.

I f you don't have series bets or futures on Warriors then I might go with ML as well as points.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

History......have fun with the game


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