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    Michigan Race Discussion

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    madshooter72
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2011 - 7:59 AM ET #1

    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Mark Martin vs Dale Earnhardt Jr
    131 Mark Martin          
    132 Dale Earnhardt Jr 
            
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Greg Biffle vs Matt Kenseth
    133 Greg Biffle          
    134 Matt Kenseth 
            
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Kyle Busch vs Tony Stewart
    135 Kyle Busch          
    136 Tony Stewart 
            
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Jimmie Johnson vs Jeff Gordon
    137 Jimmie Johnson          
    138 Jeff Gordon 
            
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Kasey Kahne vs Ryan Newman
    139 Kasey Kahne          
    140 Ryan Newman 
            
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM David Reutimann vs Martin Truex Jr
    141 David Reutimann          
    142 Martin Truex Jr    

     

     

    Here are your Q matchups without odds, gonna start breaking this shit down right now.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Mark Martin vs Dale Earnhardt Jr
    131 Mark Martin          
    132 Dale Earnhardt Jr 
            
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Greg Biffle vs Matt Kenseth
    133 Greg Biffle          
    134 Matt Kenseth 
            
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Kyle Busch vs Tony Stewart
    135 Kyle Busch          
    136 Tony Stewart 
            
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Jimmie Johnson vs Jeff Gordon
    137 Jimmie Johnson          
    138 Jeff Gordon 
            
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Kasey Kahne vs Ryan Newman
    139 Kasey Kahne          
    140 Ryan Newman 
            
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM David Reutimann vs Martin Truex Jr
    141 David Reutimann          
    142 Martin Truex Jr    

     

     

    Here are your Q matchups without odds, gonna start breaking this shit down right now.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2011 - 8:23 AM ET #2

    My opinions

    131 Mark Martin                      -150
    132 Dale Earnhardt Jr              +120

    133 Greg Biffle                        -130
    134 Matt Kenseth                   +100

    135 Kyle Busch                       -120
    136 Tony Stewart                    -110

    137 Jimmie Johnson                 -160
    138 Jeff Gordon                        +125

    139 Kasey Kahne                    -120
    140 Ryan Newman                   -110

    141 David Reutimann                -115
    142 Martin Truex Jr                   -115

     

    These are not the lines out, just what I think we will see. 

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    My opinions

    131 Mark Martin                      -150
    132 Dale Earnhardt Jr              +120

    133 Greg Biffle                        -130
    134 Matt Kenseth                   +100

    135 Kyle Busch                       -120
    136 Tony Stewart                    -110

    137 Jimmie Johnson                 -160
    138 Jeff Gordon                        +125

    139 Kasey Kahne                    -120
    140 Ryan Newman                   -110

    141 David Reutimann                -115
    142 Martin Truex Jr                   -115

     

    These are not the lines out, just what I think we will see. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2011 - 1:19 PM ET #3

    Greek Lines

     

    Motor Racing EXIT
    Heluva Good Sour Cream Dips 400 June 17-19, 2011 - Qualifying Matchups  
     
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Mark Martin vs Dale Earnhardt Jr
    131 Mark Martin      -140    
    132 Dale Earnhardt Jr      +115 
      
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Greg Biffle vs Matt Kenseth
    133 Greg Biffle      -150    
    134 Matt Kenseth      +120
       
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Kyle Busch vs Tony Stewart
    135 Kyle Busch      -125    
    136 Tony Stewart      +100 
      
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Jimmie Johnson vs Jeff Gordon
    137 Jimmie Johnson      -160    
    138 Jeff Gordon      +130  
     
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Kasey Kahne vs Ryan Newman
    139 Kasey Kahne      -150    
    140 Ryan Newman      +120 
      
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM David Reutimann vs Martin Truex Jr
    141 David Reutimann      -120    
    142 Martin Truex Jr      -105   

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    Greek Lines

     

    Motor Racing EXIT
    Heluva Good Sour Cream Dips 400 June 17-19, 2011 - Qualifying Matchups  
     
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Mark Martin vs Dale Earnhardt Jr
    131 Mark Martin      -140    
    132 Dale Earnhardt Jr      +115 
      
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Greg Biffle vs Matt Kenseth
    133 Greg Biffle      -150    
    134 Matt Kenseth      +120
       
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Kyle Busch vs Tony Stewart
    135 Kyle Busch      -125    
    136 Tony Stewart      +100 
      
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Jimmie Johnson vs Jeff Gordon
    137 Jimmie Johnson      -160    
    138 Jeff Gordon      +130  
     
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM Kasey Kahne vs Ryan Newman
    139 Kasey Kahne      -150    
    140 Ryan Newman      +120 
      
    6/17/2011 11:30 AM David Reutimann vs Martin Truex Jr
    141 David Reutimann      -120    
    142 Martin Truex Jr      -105   

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2011 - 1:26 PM ET #4

    Kinda what I expected, only see 1 that I would consider playing, as I don't like paying lots of juice...JJ is a definate winner IMO, as is Martin. Got to wait till Dimes comes out with lines.
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    Kinda what I expected, only see 1 that I would consider playing, as I don't like paying lots of juice...JJ is a definate winner IMO, as is Martin. Got to wait till Dimes comes out with lines.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2011 - 3:07 PM ET #5

    Why not play Newman? You have him capped with juice yet you can get him at +120...seems like a lot of value if that's truly how you feel about the matchup.
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    Why not play Newman? You have him capped with juice yet you can get him at +120...seems like a lot of value if that's truly how you feel about the matchup.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2011 - 3:23 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:

    Why not play Newman? You have him capped with juice yet you can get him at +120...seems like a lot of value if that's truly how you feel about the matchup.

     

    can't play anything till the lines come out at Dimes, but that is a play I am considering for sure. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkadymo:

    Why not play Newman? You have him capped with juice yet you can get him at +120...seems like a lot of value if that's truly how you feel about the matchup.

     

    can't play anything till the lines come out at Dimes, but that is a play I am considering for sure. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2011 - 7:06 PM ET #7

    Sprint Cup   Heluva Good Sour Cream Dips 400
    Fri 6/17  12:30PM

    Carl Edwards   +525
    Jimmie Johnson   +750
    Matt Kenseth   +1050
    Kyle Busch   +1050
    Jeff Gordon   +1150
    Kevin Harvick   +1150
    Dale Earnhardt Jr   +1150
    Greg Biffle   +1200
    Denny Hamlin   +1200
    Tony Stewart   +1200
    Kurt Busch   +1700
    Kasey Kahne   +2300
    David Ragan   +3000
    Brian Vickers   +3700
    Juan Pablo Montoya   +4300
    Jeff Burton   +4300
    Mark Martin   +4300
    Ryan Newman   +4300
    Marcos Ambrose   +4300
    Joey Logano   +4300
    Jamie McMurray   +6500
    David Reutimann   +6500
    Martin Truex Jr   +6500

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    Sprint Cup   Heluva Good Sour Cream Dips 400
    Fri 6/17  12:30PM

    Carl Edwards   +525
    Jimmie Johnson   +750
    Matt Kenseth   +1050
    Kyle Busch   +1050
    Jeff Gordon   +1150
    Kevin Harvick   +1150
    Dale Earnhardt Jr   +1150
    Greg Biffle   +1200
    Denny Hamlin   +1200
    Tony Stewart   +1200
    Kurt Busch   +1700
    Kasey Kahne   +2300
    David Ragan   +3000
    Brian Vickers   +3700
    Juan Pablo Montoya   +4300
    Jeff Burton   +4300
    Mark Martin   +4300
    Ryan Newman   +4300
    Marcos Ambrose   +4300
    Joey Logano   +4300
    Jamie McMurray   +6500
    David Reutimann   +6500
    Martin Truex Jr   +6500

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2011 - 7:25 PM ET #8

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    JJ to win @ +750   .15 unit

    Hamlin to win @ +1200    .12 unit

    Montoya to win @ +4300   .05 unit

    Newman to win @ +4300   .05 unit

     

    Think either JJ or Denny wins this week, (Unless we get a fuel mileage race) those 2 guys have dominated the last 4 years here leading more than half the laps run...the results haven't shown with Denny getting the only win, but JJ has been dominate leading 35% of the total laps run...JJ has been on a sick run on qualifying with his last 4 starts here being 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 3rd.....so you know that +750 will be more like +450 by Sunday. Denny price should also be well under 10-1 by Sunday.... Would like to maybe make a small play on Vickers, but hoping that line goes up before Friday.  Jr way too low right now, will wait like last week and get him at over 20-1 when he qualifies in the back as he usually does here. 27.5 Avg. start last 4 yrs.

       Harvick won the 1st race on a 2 mile track this year, but was far from the dominate car that day.

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    JJ to win @ +750   .15 unit

    Hamlin to win @ +1200    .12 unit

    Montoya to win @ +4300   .05 unit

    Newman to win @ +4300   .05 unit

     

    Think either JJ or Denny wins this week, (Unless we get a fuel mileage race) those 2 guys have dominated the last 4 years here leading more than half the laps run...the results haven't shown with Denny getting the only win, but JJ has been dominate leading 35% of the total laps run...JJ has been on a sick run on qualifying with his last 4 starts here being 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 3rd.....so you know that +750 will be more like +450 by Sunday. Denny price should also be well under 10-1 by Sunday.... Would like to maybe make a small play on Vickers, but hoping that line goes up before Friday.  Jr way too low right now, will wait like last week and get him at over 20-1 when he qualifies in the back as he usually does here. 27.5 Avg. start last 4 yrs.

       Harvick won the 1st race on a 2 mile track this year, but was far from the dominate car that day.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2011 - 9:55 PM ET #9

    Qualifying Match:

    Jeff Gordon +130 v Jimmie Johnson risk $200

    So you're going to give me the #24, redhot off a win, against Jimmie who he dominates in Q stats? Guess so, I'm in.

     

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    Qualifying Match:

    Jeff Gordon +130 v Jimmie Johnson risk $200

    So you're going to give me the #24, redhot off a win, against Jimmie who he dominates in Q stats? Guess so, I'm in.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2011 - 7:58 PM ET #10

    Race Matchups - Heluva Good Sour Cream Dips 400 - Michigan International Speedway - Brooklyn, MI - TNT- Sunday, 19 1:00 PM

    Fri 6/17   8501 Carl Edwards #99   -150         
    12:30PM    8502 Matt Kenseth #17    +120
             
    Fri 6/17   8503 Matt Kenseth #17   -120         
    12:30PM    8504 Jimmie Johnson #48    -110
             
    Fri 6/17   8505 Jimmie Johnson #48   -135         
    12:30PM    8506 Jeff Gordon #24    +105
             
    Fri 6/17   8507 Jeff Gordon #24   +100         
    12:30PM    8508 Denny Hamlin #11    -130
             
    Fri 6/17   8509 Denny Hamlin #11   -120         
    12:30PM    8510 Kevin Harvick #29    -110
            
    Fri 6/17   8511 Kevin Harvick #29   -125         
    12:30PM    8512 Kyle Busch #18    -105
             
    Fri 6/17   8513 Kyle Busch #18   -135         
    12:30PM    8514 Kurt Busch #22    +105
            
    Fri 6/17   8515 Kurt Busch #22   -110         
    12:30PM    8516 Dale Earnhardt Jr #88    -120 
           
    Fri 6/17   8517 Dale Earnhardt Jr #88   -120         
    12:30PM    8518 Tony Stewart #14    -110
            
    Fri 6/17   8519 Tony Stewart #14   -115         
    12:30PM    8520 Greg Biffle #16    -115
            
    Fri 6/17   8521 Greg Biffle #16   -145         
    12:30PM    8522 Kasey Kahne #4    +115
             
    Fri 6/17   8523 Kasey Kahne #4   -125         
    12:30PM    8524 Clint Bowyer #33    -105
            
    Fri 6/17   8525 Clint Bowyer #33   -135         
    12:30PM    8526 David Ragan #6    +105
            
    Fri 6/17   8527 David Ragan #6   -120         
    12:30PM    8528 Juan Pablo Montoya #42    -110
            
    Fri 6/17   8529 Juan Pablo Montoya #42   -115         
    12:30PM    8530 Ryan Newman #39    -115 
           
    Fri 6/17   8531 Mark Martin #5   -105         
    12:30PM    8532 Joey Logano #20    -125
            
    Fri 6/17   8533 Brian Vickers #83   -130         
    12:30PM    8534 Brad Keselowski #2    +100
            
    Fri 6/17   8535 Jeff Burton #31   -130         
    1:00PM    8536 Brad Keselowski #2    +100
             
    Fri 6/17   8537 Jeff Burton #31   +110         
    12:30PM    8538 Mark Martin #5    -140
            
    Fri 6/17   8539 Jeff Burton #31   +120         
    12:30PM    8540 Joey Logano #20    -150 

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    Race Matchups - Heluva Good Sour Cream Dips 400 - Michigan International Speedway - Brooklyn, MI - TNT- Sunday, 19 1:00 PM

    Fri 6/17   8501 Carl Edwards #99   -150         
    12:30PM    8502 Matt Kenseth #17    +120
             
    Fri 6/17   8503 Matt Kenseth #17   -120         
    12:30PM    8504 Jimmie Johnson #48    -110
             
    Fri 6/17   8505 Jimmie Johnson #48   -135         
    12:30PM    8506 Jeff Gordon #24    +105
             
    Fri 6/17   8507 Jeff Gordon #24   +100         
    12:30PM    8508 Denny Hamlin #11    -130
             
    Fri 6/17   8509 Denny Hamlin #11   -120         
    12:30PM    8510 Kevin Harvick #29    -110
            
    Fri 6/17   8511 Kevin Harvick #29   -125         
    12:30PM    8512 Kyle Busch #18    -105
             
    Fri 6/17   8513 Kyle Busch #18   -135         
    12:30PM    8514 Kurt Busch #22    +105
            
    Fri 6/17   8515 Kurt Busch #22   -110         
    12:30PM    8516 Dale Earnhardt Jr #88    -120 
           
    Fri 6/17   8517 Dale Earnhardt Jr #88   -120         
    12:30PM    8518 Tony Stewart #14    -110
            
    Fri 6/17   8519 Tony Stewart #14   -115         
    12:30PM    8520 Greg Biffle #16    -115
            
    Fri 6/17   8521 Greg Biffle #16   -145         
    12:30PM    8522 Kasey Kahne #4    +115
             
    Fri 6/17   8523 Kasey Kahne #4   -125         
    12:30PM    8524 Clint Bowyer #33    -105
            
    Fri 6/17   8525 Clint Bowyer #33   -135         
    12:30PM    8526 David Ragan #6    +105
            
    Fri 6/17   8527 David Ragan #6   -120         
    12:30PM    8528 Juan Pablo Montoya #42    -110
            
    Fri 6/17   8529 Juan Pablo Montoya #42   -115         
    12:30PM    8530 Ryan Newman #39    -115 
           
    Fri 6/17   8531 Mark Martin #5   -105         
    12:30PM    8532 Joey Logano #20    -125
            
    Fri 6/17   8533 Brian Vickers #83   -130         
    12:30PM    8534 Brad Keselowski #2    +100
            
    Fri 6/17   8535 Jeff Burton #31   -130         
    1:00PM    8536 Brad Keselowski #2    +100
             
    Fri 6/17   8537 Jeff Burton #31   +110         
    12:30PM    8538 Mark Martin #5    -140
            
    Fri 6/17   8539 Jeff Burton #31   +120         
    12:30PM    8540 Joey Logano #20    -150 

     
    madshooter72
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2011 - 8:29 PM ET #11

    another crappy week of early matchups, don't see anything I like .
    Reply
    another crappy week of early matchups, don't see anything I like .
     
    yourpixelarmy
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    Posted: Jun. 17, 2011 - 12:14 PM ET #12

    I like this one more than any:

    Kasey Kahne #4   -125         
    Clint Bowyer #33    -105

    I think Kahne should finish about 7-10 --- This isn't Bowyer's best track.
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    I like this one more than any:

    Kasey Kahne #4   -125         
    Clint Bowyer #33    -105

    I think Kahne should finish about 7-10 --- This isn't Bowyer's best track.
     
     
    stats1
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2011 - 10:04 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by madshooter72:

    Sprint Cup   Heluva Good Sour Cream Dips 400
    Fri 6/17  12:30PM

    Carl Edwards   +525
    Jimmie Johnson   +750
    Matt Kenseth   +1050
    Kyle Busch   +1050
    Jeff Gordon   +1150
    Kevin Harvick   +1150
    Dale Earnhardt Jr   +1150
    Greg Biffle   +1200
    Denny Hamlin   +1200
    Tony Stewart   +1200
    Kurt Busch   +1700
    Kasey Kahne   +2300
    David Ragan   +3000
    Brian Vickers   +3700
    Juan Pablo Montoya   +4300
    Jeff Burton   +4300
    Mark Martin   +4300
    Ryan Newman   +4300
    Marcos Ambrose   +4300
    Joey Logano   +4300
    Jamie McMurray   +6500
    David Reutimann   +6500
    Martin Truex Jr   +6500

        guys look at how the lines have moved in only 60 days should give us an idea of who the books like this weekend...   hope this helps some
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by madshooter72:

    Sprint Cup   Heluva Good Sour Cream Dips 400
    Fri 6/17  12:30PM

    Carl Edwards   +525
    Jimmie Johnson   +750
    Matt Kenseth   +1050
    Kyle Busch   +1050
    Jeff Gordon   +1150
    Kevin Harvick   +1150
    Dale Earnhardt Jr   +1150
    Greg Biffle   +1200
    Denny Hamlin   +1200
    Tony Stewart   +1200
    Kurt Busch   +1700
    Kasey Kahne   +2300
    David Ragan   +3000
    Brian Vickers   +3700
    Juan Pablo Montoya   +4300
    Jeff Burton   +4300
    Mark Martin   +4300
    Ryan Newman   +4300
    Marcos Ambrose   +4300
    Joey Logano   +4300
    Jamie McMurray   +6500
    David Reutimann   +6500
    Martin Truex Jr   +6500

        guys look at how the lines have moved in only 60 days should give us an idea of who the books like this weekend...   hope this helps some
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