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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2012 - 7:04 PM ET #1

    Qualifying Matchups - Quicken Loans 400 - Michigan International Speedway - Brooklyn, MI - Saturday, 16th 1:00 PM -
     Speed

    Fri 6/15         6001 Kasey Kahne (Qualifying)         -135                  
    12:30PM          6002 Ryan Newman (Qualifying)          +105
                     
    Fri 6/15         6003 Jimmie Johnson (Qualifying)     -155                  
    12:30PM          6004 Jeff Gordon (Qualifying)          +125
                     
    Fri 6/15         6005 Greg Biffle (Qualifying)         -155                  
    12:30PM          6006 Carl Edwards (Qualifying)          +125
                     
    Fri 6/15         6007 Dale Earnhardt Jr (Qualifying)     -140                
    12:30PM          6008 Kevin Harvick (Qualifying)          +110     


                
    Sprint Cup   Quicken Loans 400
    Fri 6/15  12:30



    Jimmie Johnson      +675
    Matt Kenseth      +900
    Kyle Busch      +950
    Carl Edwards      +950
    Greg Biffle      +1100
    Jeff Gordon      +1200
    Tony Stewart      +1200
    Denny Hamlin      +1200
    Kasey Kahne      +1300
    Brad Keselowski      +1300
    Kevin Harvick      +1300
    Dale Earnhardt Jr  +1500
    Mark Martin      +2600
    Ryan Newman      +3200
    Martin Truex Jr      +3200
    Clint Bowyer      +3200
    Joey Logano      +4500
    Kurt Busch      +5500
    Marcos Ambrose      +5500
    Jeff Burton      +5500
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    Qualifying Matchups - Quicken Loans 400 - Michigan International Speedway - Brooklyn, MI - Saturday, 16th 1:00 PM -
     Speed

    Fri 6/15         6001 Kasey Kahne (Qualifying)         -135                  
    12:30PM          6002 Ryan Newman (Qualifying)          +105
                     
    Fri 6/15         6003 Jimmie Johnson (Qualifying)     -155                  
    12:30PM          6004 Jeff Gordon (Qualifying)          +125
                     
    Fri 6/15         6005 Greg Biffle (Qualifying)         -155                  
    12:30PM          6006 Carl Edwards (Qualifying)          +125
                     
    Fri 6/15         6007 Dale Earnhardt Jr (Qualifying)     -140                
    12:30PM          6008 Kevin Harvick (Qualifying)          +110     


                
    Sprint Cup   Quicken Loans 400
    Fri 6/15  12:30



    Jimmie Johnson      +675
    Matt Kenseth      +900
    Kyle Busch      +950
    Carl Edwards      +950
    Greg Biffle      +1100
    Jeff Gordon      +1200
    Tony Stewart      +1200
    Denny Hamlin      +1200
    Kasey Kahne      +1300
    Brad Keselowski      +1300
    Kevin Harvick      +1300
    Dale Earnhardt Jr  +1500
    Mark Martin      +2600
    Ryan Newman      +3200
    Martin Truex Jr      +3200
    Clint Bowyer      +3200
    Joey Logano      +4500
    Kurt Busch      +5500
    Marcos Ambrose      +5500
    Jeff Burton      +5500
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2012 - 7:11 PM ET #2

    I honestly don't see anything that sticks out right now, Q plays are matched up correctly except for Jr/Harvick who have pretty much the same Q avg. last 4 races here.


    Top 5 at Calli were (this year)

    Stewart
    Kyle
    Jr
    Harvick
    Edwards



    None of those guys (ex. Jr) have been running well recently....I would have hoped to get a little more value on Jr and think we will see that after practices and Qing......figure if he does drop at all, he shouldn't go below +1000

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    I honestly don't see anything that sticks out right now, Q plays are matched up correctly except for Jr/Harvick who have pretty much the same Q avg. last 4 races here.


    Top 5 at Calli were (this year)

    Stewart
    Kyle
    Jr
    Harvick
    Edwards



    None of those guys (ex. Jr) have been running well recently....I would have hoped to get a little more value on Jr and think we will see that after practices and Qing......figure if he does drop at all, he shouldn't go below +1000

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2012 - 7:40 PM ET #3

    fyi, cali was cut short due to rain  tony and denny had the best car but when rain came darren brought denny down pit road and the race never got re started...  my top4 this week call for denny,kyle,tony and biffle..  this year has really gotten hard 2 hit a winner i feel each week the books are giving decent odds but there r 12 drivers who have a chance at winning each week  4 hendrick cars, 3 roush cars, 2 gibbs and then smoke,brad and harvick...   i have made WAY more this year n the n.wide then sprint cup...   hope all others r faring well
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    fyi, cali was cut short due to rain  tony and denny had the best car but when rain came darren brought denny down pit road and the race never got re started...  my top4 this week call for denny,kyle,tony and biffle..  this year has really gotten hard 2 hit a winner i feel each week the books are giving decent odds but there r 12 drivers who have a chance at winning each week  4 hendrick cars, 3 roush cars, 2 gibbs and then smoke,brad and harvick...   i have made WAY more this year n the n.wide then sprint cup...   hope all others r faring well
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2012 - 7:45 PM ET #4

    keep n mind there is also 6 or 7 hrs of testing thur.   as michigan has also been repaved...    soon as n.wide r posted i am playing   brad,logano and menard as my sleeper pick.... great weekend of sports racing,us open,college world series and mlb 
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    keep n mind there is also 6 or 7 hrs of testing thur.   as michigan has also been repaved...    soon as n.wide r posted i am playing   brad,logano and menard as my sleeper pick.... great weekend of sports racing,us open,college world series and mlb 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2012 - 10:23 PM ET #5

    I'll be all over the Fords this week as I normally am at Michigan.  Biffle and Kenseth will run good here...I expect them to be top 5. 
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    I'll be all over the Fords this week as I normally am at Michigan.  Biffle and Kenseth will run good here...I expect them to be top 5. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2012 - 11:25 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    I'll be all over the Fords this week as I normally am at Michigan.  Biffle and Kenseth will run good here...I expect them to be top 5. 
      think carl gets it going this weekend??
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    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    I'll be all over the Fords this week as I normally am at Michigan.  Biffle and Kenseth will run good here...I expect them to be top 5. 
      think carl gets it going this weekend??
     
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    Something not right with him, his car and his team.  I'm not ready to lay $$$ with him just yet until they show me they have their act together.  Kenseth ran so good here last year, and just messed up all the restarts...if he was halfway decent on restarts he would have won going away.  I think Kenseth and Biffle are much safer wagers than Carl.  Not saying he won't do well...but I can't bet on him and feel safe.  I'm also hoping Logano gets some love from the books based on last week...I'd love to fade him.

    Honestly, I've been making money on some of the really bad lines the books have put out...loading up on those on the day of the race.  Last week having Bowyer O/U 16.5 was a terrible line...was able to capitalize on that.  The Steward line of O/U 12.5 at Dover was terrible...capitalized on that.  There have been several others that have been way off, and I've noticed just about everyone on here has noticed them.  Hoping we catch another one this week.  Sportsbook has been the book that has posted some of the worse.  Hopefully they don't check these threads...
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    Something not right with him, his car and his team.  I'm not ready to lay $$$ with him just yet until they show me they have their act together.  Kenseth ran so good here last year, and just messed up all the restarts...if he was halfway decent on restarts he would have won going away.  I think Kenseth and Biffle are much safer wagers than Carl.  Not saying he won't do well...but I can't bet on him and feel safe.  I'm also hoping Logano gets some love from the books based on last week...I'd love to fade him.

    Honestly, I've been making money on some of the really bad lines the books have put out...loading up on those on the day of the race.  Last week having Bowyer O/U 16.5 was a terrible line...was able to capitalize on that.  The Steward line of O/U 12.5 at Dover was terrible...capitalized on that.  There have been several others that have been way off, and I've noticed just about everyone on here has noticed them.  Hoping we catch another one this week.  Sportsbook has been the book that has posted some of the worse.  Hopefully they don't check these threads...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 9:44 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    Something not right with him, his car and his team.  I'm not ready to lay $$$ with him just yet until they show me they have their act together.  Kenseth ran so good here last year, and just messed up all the restarts...if he was halfway decent on restarts he would have won going away.  I think Kenseth and Biffle are much safer wagers than Carl.  Not saying he won't do well...but I can't bet on him and feel safe.  I'm also hoping Logano gets some love from the books based on last week...I'd love to fade him.

    Honestly, I've been making money on some of the really bad lines the books have put out...loading up on those on the day of the race.  Last week having Bowyer O/U 16.5 was a terrible line...was able to capitalize on that.  The Steward line of O/U 12.5 at Dover was terrible...capitalized on that.  There have been several others that have been way off, and I've noticed just about everyone on here has noticed them.  Hoping we catch another one this week.  Sportsbook has been the book that has posted some of the worse.  Hopefully they don't check these threads...

    Logano was a gift last week at that site. I have 5 online accounts and hopefully I have the time this Sunday morning to look for some mistakes. If I find any I will be sure to post them.

    I have been to the Michigan track for 10 races over the years so I have a pretty good handle on who does well there. I do agree with the Fords...Matty, The Biff and Horsehead always run well here.

    Gas strategy can have a huge say on who wins this race and that is something you can't cap.

     

    GL 

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    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    Something not right with him, his car and his team.  I'm not ready to lay $$$ with him just yet until they show me they have their act together.  Kenseth ran so good here last year, and just messed up all the restarts...if he was halfway decent on restarts he would have won going away.  I think Kenseth and Biffle are much safer wagers than Carl.  Not saying he won't do well...but I can't bet on him and feel safe.  I'm also hoping Logano gets some love from the books based on last week...I'd love to fade him.

    Honestly, I've been making money on some of the really bad lines the books have put out...loading up on those on the day of the race.  Last week having Bowyer O/U 16.5 was a terrible line...was able to capitalize on that.  The Steward line of O/U 12.5 at Dover was terrible...capitalized on that.  There have been several others that have been way off, and I've noticed just about everyone on here has noticed them.  Hoping we catch another one this week.  Sportsbook has been the book that has posted some of the worse.  Hopefully they don't check these threads...

    Logano was a gift last week at that site. I have 5 online accounts and hopefully I have the time this Sunday morning to look for some mistakes. If I find any I will be sure to post them.

    I have been to the Michigan track for 10 races over the years so I have a pretty good handle on who does well there. I do agree with the Fords...Matty, The Biff and Horsehead always run well here.

    Gas strategy can have a huge say on who wins this race and that is something you can't cap.

     

    GL 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 9:48 AM ET #9

    I look for Kahne and Kyle Busch to both come back strong come Sunday after not finishing last week.
    You learn more from losing than winning. You learn how to keep going.
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    I look for Kahne and Kyle Busch to both come back strong come Sunday after not finishing last week.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 10:59 AM ET #10

    don't 4get michigan was re paved some1 could jump out of no where and steal the show like joey did at pocono  say what u want abt. joey but he ran a great race sun.  never fell out of the top 5 except on pit cycles....     sportsbook has posted there match up's and the only play that jumps out at me 4 sure is truex-newman -110  truex has been great on the 1.5-2 mile tracks this year..   should have 1 kansas and got a bad set of tires on the last stop and denny went on 2 win...  also had a top5 car at cali.  and finished 8th    newman isn't having the speed on the 1.5-2 mile tracks this year....
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    don't 4get michigan was re paved some1 could jump out of no where and steal the show like joey did at pocono  say what u want abt. joey but he ran a great race sun.  never fell out of the top 5 except on pit cycles....     sportsbook has posted there match up's and the only play that jumps out at me 4 sure is truex-newman -110  truex has been great on the 1.5-2 mile tracks this year..   should have 1 kansas and got a bad set of tires on the last stop and denny went on 2 win...  also had a top5 car at cali.  and finished 8th    newman isn't having the speed on the 1.5-2 mile tracks this year....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 11:42 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

    fyi, cali was cut short due to rain  tony and denny had the best car but when rain came darren brought denny down pit road and the race never got re started...  my top4 this week call for denny,kyle,tony and biffle..  this year has really gotten hard 2 hit a winner i feel each week the books are giving decent odds but there r 12 drivers who have a chance at winning each week  4 hendrick cars, 3 roush cars, 2 gibbs and then smoke,brad and harvick...   i have made WAY more this year n the n.wide then sprint cup...   hope all others r faring well

     

    thanks buddy, totally forgot about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

    fyi, cali was cut short due to rain  tony and denny had the best car but when rain came darren brought denny down pit road and the race never got re started...  my top4 this week call for denny,kyle,tony and biffle..  this year has really gotten hard 2 hit a winner i feel each week the books are giving decent odds but there r 12 drivers who have a chance at winning each week  4 hendrick cars, 3 roush cars, 2 gibbs and then smoke,brad and harvick...   i have made WAY more this year n the n.wide then sprint cup...   hope all others r faring well

     

    thanks buddy, totally forgot about that.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2012 - 8:18 PM ET #12

    I know they haven't practiced yet on the new asphalt, but the roush-fenway cars r stout @ this track. My early leans are the 16, 17 & 2. Carl is starting to get his act together, & ole Jr. is starting to make me a believer, thought he was gonna cash for me last week! Anyway lets see how practices turn out. GL to everyone this week
    Also my book has jj +600, matt,kyle &carl +900. Got the biff @ +1100-may go ahead & bite on this 1!
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    I know they haven't practiced yet on the new asphalt, but the roush-fenway cars r stout @ this track. My early leans are the 16, 17 & 2. Carl is starting to get his act together, & ole Jr. is starting to make me a believer, thought he was gonna cash for me last week! Anyway lets see how practices turn out. GL to everyone this week
    Also my book has jj +600, matt,kyle &carl +900. Got the biff @ +1100-may go ahead & bite on this 1!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2012 - 1:08 PM ET #13

    Martin just unrolled FAST again. In the first 3 hour practice, he was the only one to average over 201.

    #55-Martin 201.089
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    Martin just unrolled FAST again. In the first 3 hour practice, he was the only one to average over 201.

    #55-Martin 201.089
     
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    Only 1 Ford in the top 10 (Biffle).  Kenseth 16th...the rest of the Fords at the bottom, and waaaaaaay slower.  Something to keep an eye on.
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    Only 1 Ford in the top 10 (Biffle).  Kenseth 16th...the rest of the Fords at the bottom, and waaaaaaay slower.  Something to keep an eye on.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    Only 1 Ford in the top 10 (Biffle).  Kenseth 16th...the rest of the Fords at the bottom, and waaaaaaay slower.  Something to keep an eye on.


    I don't think a lot of teams really showed what they had yet---just tinkering around with different setups.

    Granted, you still want to be on the top of the charts, but I wouldn't look too far into yesterday's tests. The two practices today however..
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    Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:

    Only 1 Ford in the top 10 (Biffle).  Kenseth 16th...the rest of the Fords at the bottom, and waaaaaaay slower.  Something to keep an eye on.


    I don't think a lot of teams really showed what they had yet---just tinkering around with different setups.

    Granted, you still want to be on the top of the charts, but I wouldn't look too far into yesterday's tests. The two practices today however..
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 2:54 PM ET #16

    Hamlin hasn't shown much so far...looks like Martin, Jr, and Stewart have the speed right now...Kenseth has been getting faster also.  Unlike some tracks I think qualifying is going to show us a lot.
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    Hamlin hasn't shown much so far...looks like Martin, Jr, and Stewart have the speed right now...Kenseth has been getting faster also.  Unlike some tracks I think qualifying is going to show us a lot.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 4:22 PM ET #17

    Hendrick cars certainly have found some HP lately.....Jr looks really strong, so you know at best he will finish 2nd or 3rd, wondering when in the hell he is going to win a race again.....maybe never.
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    Hendrick cars certainly have found some HP lately.....Jr looks really strong, so you know at best he will finish 2nd or 3rd, wondering when in the hell he is going to win a race again.....maybe never.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2012 - 10:12 PM ET #18

    bumping this thread so we can c what lines opened at for the last mich. race and c what they r this weekend    will b on all 3 gibbs cars 4 sure this weekend....
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    bumping this thread so we can c what lines opened at for the last mich. race and c what they r this weekend    will b on all 3 gibbs cars 4 sure this weekend....
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