how is the best rapper of all-time?
i dont care who you like but there's no way you can say illmatic wasn't one of the top 10 greatest rap albums of all time.... theres so many though... it was much, much better 10 years ago... give me mos def, atcq, wu-tang,gangstarr,big L, talib kweli over any new artist any day
Word.
And old 50 was a beast, before he got rich. It happens to most in the music industry. But pre-GRODT 50 was a monster.
i dont care who you like but there's no way you can say illmatic wasn't one of the top 10 greatest rap albums of all time.... theres so many though... it was much, much better 10 years ago... give me mos def, atcq, wu-tang,gangstarr,big L, talib kweli over any new artist any day
Word.
And old 50 was a beast, before he got rich. It happens to most in the music industry. But pre-GRODT 50 was a monster.
here u go exhibit A. Cham destroys Wayne on his own beat ![]()
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSZc0OrcwiQ
lmao the song dont have life until 2:30 in when cham takes over. Lil Wayne sounds like a 9 yr old tryin to rap ![]()
Haven't listen to this one yet, just thought I'd point out that isn't Wayne's beat
here u go exhibit A. Cham destroys Wayne on his own beat ![]()
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSZc0OrcwiQ
lmao the song dont have life until 2:30 in when cham takes over. Lil Wayne sounds like a 9 yr old tryin to rap ![]()
Haven't listen to this one yet, just thought I'd point out that isn't Wayne's beat
Saw both over the last year, great shows. I dunno if you'd call Tip a great lyricist, though. It's more his style and voice that catches people.
Now GZA, dude is a BEAST on the mic.
Saw both over the last year, great shows. I dunno if you'd call Tip a great lyricist, though. It's more his style and voice that catches people.
Now GZA, dude is a BEAST on the mic.
fuck you nobody listens to those bullshit AM stations you play in your car....![]()
fuck you nobody listens to those bullshit AM stations you play in your car....![]()
I love this list. You got to add Pac though so I would rearrange like this:
(1) TuPac
(2) Ice Cube
(3) Biggy
(4) Emm
(5) Nas
I literally wore out three Ice Cube's Predator CDs. One of the best albums ever!!! I really miss Pac and Biggy. I hate to say it but they were at their best when they were feuding (i.e. Now I am Gonna Wetta), however, if that is what ended in their deaths it was not worth it.
As for the person who said picking the best rapper is like picking the tallest midgit... seriously get a life. I always felt that this is the most skilled form of musical expression and also the one that gets the worst rep. Most of these guys put their souls into this music and to make it in this business is damn near impossible. Further, to be able to sling these rhymes (often freestyle) that makes sense, is entertaining and articulate is amazing to me. Before any haters start hating, yes rap music is articulate if you know what you are listening too.
Great topic. I look forward to further discussion.
I love this list. You got to add Pac though so I would rearrange like this:
(1) TuPac
(2) Ice Cube
(3) Biggy
(4) Emm
(5) Nas
I literally wore out three Ice Cube's Predator CDs. One of the best albums ever!!! I really miss Pac and Biggy. I hate to say it but they were at their best when they were feuding (i.e. Now I am Gonna Wetta), however, if that is what ended in their deaths it was not worth it.
As for the person who said picking the best rapper is like picking the tallest midgit... seriously get a life. I always felt that this is the most skilled form of musical expression and also the one that gets the worst rep. Most of these guys put their souls into this music and to make it in this business is damn near impossible. Further, to be able to sling these rhymes (often freestyle) that makes sense, is entertaining and articulate is amazing to me. Before any haters start hating, yes rap music is articulate if you know what you are listening too.
Great topic. I look forward to further discussion.
Hahaha. True Story. It's really all about the catchy beat and catchy chorus. It's funny watching these sub-urban kids trying to act tough. Little do these kids know.
Hahaha. True Story. It's really all about the catchy beat and catchy chorus. It's funny watching these sub-urban kids trying to act tough. Little do these kids know.
So what makes YOUR music so much better? Get off your high horse.
As for the dude who laughed at the Nas comment, I don't care if he wanted to shine his boots or whatever. He's a better rapper. I like Pac, but LYRICALLY, he ain't messin' with Nas.
And I won't bother responding to the Wayne/Cham stuff, those dudes don't deserve to be in this conversation.
The point is........... rap is not music...........how many great guitarists or keyboardists come to mind when you mention any rap group? Or vocalists for that matter?
Rhyming words does not make you a musician........
So what makes YOUR music so much better? Get off your high horse.
As for the dude who laughed at the Nas comment, I don't care if he wanted to shine his boots or whatever. He's a better rapper. I like Pac, but LYRICALLY, he ain't messin' with Nas.
And I won't bother responding to the Wayne/Cham stuff, those dudes don't deserve to be in this conversation.
The point is........... rap is not music...........how many great guitarists or keyboardists come to mind when you mention any rap group? Or vocalists for that matter?
Rhyming words does not make you a musician........
The point is........... rap is not music...........how many great guitarists or keyboardists come to mind when you mention any rap group? Or vocalists for that matter?
Rhyming words does not make you a musician........
You are right it does not make them musicians it makes them artists. Most good rap artists are more than rhyming words. They have concepts, story lines, double entendres, and some are like poetry.
I've never seen Mick Jagger play guitar, piano, drums and sing at the same time. He is strictly a singer/vocalist. That does not discredit his music or make him not considered an artist because he didn't play all the instruments.
A lot of rap artists get started in gospel singing. They are musicians whether you want to believe it or not.
The point is........... rap is not music...........how many great guitarists or keyboardists come to mind when you mention any rap group? Or vocalists for that matter?
Rhyming words does not make you a musician........
You are right it does not make them musicians it makes them artists. Most good rap artists are more than rhyming words. They have concepts, story lines, double entendres, and some are like poetry.
I've never seen Mick Jagger play guitar, piano, drums and sing at the same time. He is strictly a singer/vocalist. That does not discredit his music or make him not considered an artist because he didn't play all the instruments.
A lot of rap artists get started in gospel singing. They are musicians whether you want to believe it or not.
The point is........... rap is not music...........how many great guitarists or keyboardists come to mind when you mention any rap group? Or vocalists for that matter?
Rhyming words does not make you a musician........
music can be anything
The point is........... rap is not music...........how many great guitarists or keyboardists come to mind when you mention any rap group? Or vocalists for that matter?
Rhyming words does not make you a musician........
music can be anything
for those not familiar ..SOME OF my favorite storytelling tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW8jRjvlLgE kool g rap at his best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyt0tAwDAPc one of my fav all time tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0R7I7LjZ2A joe budden GREAT TRACK 9.5/10........joe budden is definitely dope if you took the time to get passed PUMP IT UP and christina milian features
nas - i gave you power [prob the best one, but i figured everyone has heard it. someone tell me that song isnt "music"...alot of talent there.
b.i.g. - i got a story to tell
Maybe one of you guys [doubt it] have heard of Vakill...if not he's pretty dope...but a nice track VAKILL - FALLEN feat. slug [hate that person but he does good on this feature]
for those not familiar ..SOME OF my favorite storytelling tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW8jRjvlLgE kool g rap at his best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyt0tAwDAPc one of my fav all time tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0R7I7LjZ2A joe budden GREAT TRACK 9.5/10........joe budden is definitely dope if you took the time to get passed PUMP IT UP and christina milian features
nas - i gave you power [prob the best one, but i figured everyone has heard it. someone tell me that song isnt "music"...alot of talent there.
b.i.g. - i got a story to tell
Maybe one of you guys [doubt it] have heard of Vakill...if not he's pretty dope...but a nice track VAKILL - FALLEN feat. slug [hate that person but he does good on this feature]
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