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    how is the best rapper of all-time?

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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2009 - 12:36 PM ET #1

    I have been studying rap music since a few months ago, lyrically is B.I.G in my opinion but TUPAC gives power to his songs, so is very dificult to tell, i like 50 cent and the best now a days lil' wayne but i can't understand why is jay-z famous, how could he make millions of dollars of music, matter fact i just could say that I enjoyed 2 or 3 songs he made on his career, no attemp to hurt any feelings or disrespect anybody but in my opinion jay-z suck! AND I REALLY MEAN HE SUCKS
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I have been studying rap music since a few months ago, lyrically is B.I.G in my opinion but TUPAC gives power to his songs, so is very dificult to tell, i like 50 cent and the best now a days lil' wayne but i can't understand why is jay-z famous, how could he make millions of dollars of music, matter fact i just could say that I enjoyed 2 or 3 songs he made on his career, no attemp to hurt any feelings or disrespect anybody but in my opinion jay-z suck! AND I REALLY MEAN HE SUCKS
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2009 - 5:44 AM ET #3

    Jay-Z sucks, look back at when him and NAS were going at each other.  You cant say he didnt go after anyone.  Jay-Z would step up with anyone that says something about him over a track.
     
    2PAC greatest of all time.
     
    As of now I dont know if anyone out now should be in the greatest of all time speak.  Eminem back in the day was fire and would go after anyone.
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    Jay-Z sucks, look back at when him and NAS were going at each other.  You cant say he didnt go after anyone.  Jay-Z would step up with anyone that says something about him over a track.
     
    2PAC greatest of all time.
     
    As of now I dont know if anyone out now should be in the greatest of all time speak.  Eminem back in the day was fire and would go after anyone.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2009 - 2:05 PM ET #4

    Its gonna be tuff to nominate someone as the greatest "rapper" of all time, seeing how any dumbass can do it.  There's this guy that hangs out back of the kangaroo foods store.....He's doin that shit all the time.  Willie is what he calls himself.   I nominate him.  
     
     
     
     
     
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    Its gonna be tuff to nominate someone as the greatest "rapper" of all time, seeing how any dumbass can do it.  There's this guy that hangs out back of the kangaroo foods store.....He's doin that shit all the time.  Willie is what he calls himself.   I nominate him.  
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2009 - 4:32 PM ET #5

    Your head would explode if you tried to write a good rap verse. I love people who have no idea what they're talking about.

    Nas is the best, by the way. "Illmatic" is one of the most lyrical pieces of music you'll ever hear.
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    Your head would explode if you tried to write a good rap verse. I love people who have no idea what they're talking about.

    Nas is the best, by the way. "Illmatic" is one of the most lyrical pieces of music you'll ever hear.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2009 - 4:44 PM ET #6

    Dude ive played guitar, bass, drums and piano since i was 8.   Been the front man in several bands.    Give me a break,  rap is trash.  Are some "rappers" better than others?  yes.   But as a whole it is not a special talent or skill.
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    Dude ive played guitar, bass, drums and piano since i was 8.   Been the front man in several bands.    Give me a break,  rap is trash.  Are some "rappers" better than others?  yes.   But as a whole it is not a special talent or skill.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2009 - 2:12 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by rjordan1979:

    Your head would explode if you tried to write a good rap verse. I love people who have no idea what they're talking about.

    Nas is the best, by the way. "Illmatic" is one of the most lyrical pieces of music you'll ever hear.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjordan1979:

    Your head would explode if you tried to write a good rap verse. I love people who have no idea what they're talking about.

    Nas is the best, by the way. "Illmatic" is one of the most lyrical pieces of music you'll ever hear.

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2009 - 2:13 AM ET #8

    nas would b willing to shine tupacs shoes just to hang with the dude back in the day. Nas fake azz talkin bout how he got shot like pac.. want to hear the real story on that situation ... he got shot by a errant bullet taht wasnt even intended for him .... damn waddy slow down gangsta
     
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    nas would b willing to shine tupacs shoes just to hang with the dude back in the day. Nas fake azz talkin bout how he got shot like pac.. want to hear the real story on that situation ... he got shot by a errant bullet taht wasnt even intended for him .... damn waddy slow down gangsta
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2009 - 2:15 AM ET #9

    and the fact that the original poster said lil wayne the best right now ruins any credibility from himself.
     
    of course u must mention Tupac
     
    but i beleive Chammilionaire is the most SKILLEd rapper today check out all his shit on youtube b4 you even try to hate.
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    and the fact that the original poster said lil wayne the best right now ruins any credibility from himself.
     
    of course u must mention Tupac
     
    but i beleive Chammilionaire is the most SKILLEd rapper today check out all his shit on youtube b4 you even try to hate.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2009 - 11:44 PM ET #10

    How anyone can like Jay Z is beyond me.
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    How anyone can like Jay Z is beyond me.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 11, 2009 - 11:42 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Iw1nBets:

    and the fact that the original poster said lil wayne the best right now ruins any credibility from himself.
     
    of course u must mention Tupac
     
    but i beleive Chammilionaire is the most SKILLEd rapper today check out all his shit on youtube b4 you even try to hate.


    Now that is funny. If you think Chammilionaire is the most skilled you shouldn't be talking. I know female rappers who are better then him. Wayne by far is the best rapper out right now. Listen to his mixtapes and you will be blown away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iw1nBets:

    and the fact that the original poster said lil wayne the best right now ruins any credibility from himself.
     
    of course u must mention Tupac
     
    but i beleive Chammilionaire is the most SKILLEd rapper today check out all his shit on youtube b4 you even try to hate.


    Now that is funny. If you think Chammilionaire is the most skilled you shouldn't be talking. I know female rappers who are better then him. Wayne by far is the best rapper out right now. Listen to his mixtapes and you will be blown away.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2009 - 7:53 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by TIMBER9:

    Dude ive played guitar, bass, drums and piano since i was 8.   Been the front man in several bands.    Give me a break,  rap is trash.  Are some "rappers" better than others?  yes.   But as a whole it is not a special talent or skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIMBER9:

    Dude ive played guitar, bass, drums and piano since i was 8.   Been the front man in several bands.    Give me a break,  rap is trash.  Are some "rappers" better than others?  yes.   But as a whole it is not a special talent or skill.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2009 - 12:22 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by atlheatholder:





    if it was that easy why doesn't everybody go out and rap?
    it obviously pays pretty well if your good at it

    anti hip hop/rap people on covers crack me up
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    Quote Originally Posted by atlheatholder:





    if it was that easy why doesn't everybody go out and rap?
    it obviously pays pretty well if your good at it

    anti hip hop/rap people on covers crack me up
     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2009 - 3:13 PM ET #14

    Dude, how is it you managed to post this in both the 'Music' and the 'Movies and Television' forum, and screwed up the header both times ("Who is", not "How is")? I see Hip-Hop is already having an effect on your grasp of the English language...
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    Dude, how is it you managed to post this in both the 'Music' and the 'Movies and Television' forum, and screwed up the header both times ("Who is", not "How is")? I see Hip-Hop is already having an effect on your grasp of the English language...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2009 - 11:42 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by yuice20:



    Now that is funny. If you think Chammilionaire is the most skilled you shouldn't be talking. I know female rappers who are better then him. Wayne by far is the best rapper out right now. Listen to his mixtapes and you will be blown away.

    true true

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    Quote Originally Posted by yuice20:



    Now that is funny. If you think Chammilionaire is the most skilled you shouldn't be talking. I know female rappers who are better then him. Wayne by far is the best rapper out right now. Listen to his mixtapes and you will be blown away.

    true true

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2009 - 11:46 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by hugh613:

    Dude, how is it you managed to post this in both the 'Music' and the 'Movies and Television' forum, and screwed up the header both times ("Who is", not "How is")? I see Hip-Hop is already having an effect on your grasp of the English language...

    look a could speak 6 languages, so go f@ck yourself and learn something you dumb ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugh613:

    Dude, how is it you managed to post this in both the 'Music' and the 'Movies and Television' forum, and screwed up the header both times ("Who is", not "How is")? I see Hip-Hop is already having an effect on your grasp of the English language...

    look a could speak 6 languages, so go f@ck yourself and learn something you dumb ass

     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2009 - 11:48 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by TIMBER9:

    Dude ive played guitar, bass, drums and piano since i was 8.   Been the front man in several bands.    Give me a break,  rap is trash.  Are some "rappers" better than others?  yes.   But as a whole it is not a special talent or skill.



    Best rapper?  Isn't that like, "who is the tallest midget"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIMBER9:

    Dude ive played guitar, bass, drums and piano since i was 8.   Been the front man in several bands.    Give me a break,  rap is trash.  Are some "rappers" better than others?  yes.   But as a whole it is not a special talent or skill.



    Best rapper?  Isn't that like, "who is the tallest midget"?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2009 - 4:42 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by mforbes:

    look a could speak 6 languages, so go f@ck yourself and learn something you dumb ass
    Obviously English isn't the strongest of the 6...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mforbes:

    look a could speak 6 languages, so go f@ck yourself and learn something you dumb ass
    Obviously English isn't the strongest of the 6...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2009 - 8:21 AM ET #19

    since u said that lil wayne is better than chammilionaire i must do this. And please listen to the music all of you all as i find and post it . Please at least click on the links then make your opinion
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    since u said that lil wayne is better than chammilionaire i must do this. And please listen to the music all of you all as i find and post it . Please at least click on the links then make your opinion
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2009 - 8:23 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by yuice20:



    Now that is funny. If you think Chammilionaire is the most skilled you shouldn't be talking. I know female rappers who are better then him. Wayne by far is the best rapper out right now. Listen to his mixtapes and you will be blown away.

     

    here u go exhibit A. Cham destroys Wayne on his own beat

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSZc0OrcwiQ

     

    lmao the song dont have life until 2:30 in when cham takes over. Lil Wayne sounds like a 9 yr old tryin to rap

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    Quote Originally Posted by yuice20:



    Now that is funny. If you think Chammilionaire is the most skilled you shouldn't be talking. I know female rappers who are better then him. Wayne by far is the best rapper out right now. Listen to his mixtapes and you will be blown away.

     

    here u go exhibit A. Cham destroys Wayne on his own beat

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSZc0OrcwiQ

     

    lmao the song dont have life until 2:30 in when cham takes over. Lil Wayne sounds like a 9 yr old tryin to rap

     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2009 - 8:29 AM ET #21

    Exhibit B.
     
    and this isnt cham at his best
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hp-Y25lc54&feature=related
     
    AND ALL YOU ALL GOTTA DO IS READ THE COMMENTS FORM THE VIEWERS WHILE YOUR LISTENING ON YOUTUBE. EVERYONE OF THEM ADMITS CHAM RAPES HIM ON ALMOST EVERYTRACK.
    only good track wayne got is lollipop and thats just cuz of the sick beat
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    Exhibit B.
     
    and this isnt cham at his best
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hp-Y25lc54&feature=related
     
    AND ALL YOU ALL GOTTA DO IS READ THE COMMENTS FORM THE VIEWERS WHILE YOUR LISTENING ON YOUTUBE. EVERYONE OF THEM ADMITS CHAM RAPES HIM ON ALMOST EVERYTRACK.
    only good track wayne got is lollipop and thats just cuz of the sick beat
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2009 - 8:39 AM ET #22

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEkEJcfxc2I&feature=related
    once again the comments pages and pages of them sing louder then even the raps do
    Cham destroys him so much dude you did this to yourself.
     
     
    Lmao can Wayne do this ... cham imitates like 15 rappers perfectly. Listen for yourself isnt no 1 Def not lil wayne as versatile as Cham
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8I4OcL_6Fw&feature=related
     
    his lil wayne part cracks me up pratically makes fun of his style and lyrics all in one
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEkEJcfxc2I&feature=related
    once again the comments pages and pages of them sing louder then even the raps do
    Cham destroys him so much dude you did this to yourself.
     
     
    Lmao can Wayne do this ... cham imitates like 15 rappers perfectly. Listen for yourself isnt no 1 Def not lil wayne as versatile as Cham
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8I4OcL_6Fw&feature=related
     
    his lil wayne part cracks me up pratically makes fun of his style and lyrics all in one
     
    Iw1nBets
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2009 - 8:42 AM ET #23

    Hey bud thanks for playin man . nothing wrong with losing at something especially something as fickle as a internet argument.I always enjoy comedy though and as i fade off into the night a winner ill let one last track beat in ya ears to end any last possible debate.....
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyP9fQbtZr0
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    Hey bud thanks for playin man . nothing wrong with losing at something especially something as fickle as a internet argument.I always enjoy comedy though and as i fade off into the night a winner ill let one last track beat in ya ears to end any last possible debate.....
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyP9fQbtZr0
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2009 - 5:11 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by TIMBER9:

    Dude ive played guitar, bass, drums and piano since i was 8.   Been the front man in several bands.    Give me a break,  rap is trash.  Are some "rappers" better than others?  yes.   But as a whole it is not a special talent or skill.


    So what makes YOUR music so much better? Get off your high horse.

    As for the dude who laughed at the Nas comment, I don't care if he wanted to shine his boots or whatever. He's a better rapper. I like Pac, but LYRICALLY, he ain't messin' with Nas.

    And I won't bother responding to the Wayne/Cham stuff, those dudes don't deserve to be in this conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIMBER9:

    Dude ive played guitar, bass, drums and piano since i was 8.   Been the front man in several bands.    Give me a break,  rap is trash.  Are some "rappers" better than others?  yes.   But as a whole it is not a special talent or skill.


    So what makes YOUR music so much better? Get off your high horse.

    As for the dude who laughed at the Nas comment, I don't care if he wanted to shine his boots or whatever. He's a better rapper. I like Pac, but LYRICALLY, he ain't messin' with Nas.

    And I won't bother responding to the Wayne/Cham stuff, those dudes don't deserve to be in this conversation.
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2009 - 2:53 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Iw1nBets:

    nas would b willing to shine tupacs shoes just to hang with the dude back in the day. Nas fake azz talkin bout how he got shot like pac.. want to hear the real story on that situation ... he got shot by a errant bullet taht wasnt even intended for him .... damn waddy slow down gangsta
     

    i dont care who you like but there's no way you can say illmatic wasn't one of the top 10 greatest rap albums of all time.... theres so many though... it was much, much better 10 years ago... give me mos def, atcq, wu-tang,gangstarr,big L, talib kweli over any new artist any day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iw1nBets:

    nas would b willing to shine tupacs shoes just to hang with the dude back in the day. Nas fake azz talkin bout how he got shot like pac.. want to hear the real story on that situation ... he got shot by a errant bullet taht wasnt even intended for him .... damn waddy slow down gangsta
     

    i dont care who you like but there's no way you can say illmatic wasn't one of the top 10 greatest rap albums of all time.... theres so many though... it was much, much better 10 years ago... give me mos def, atcq, wu-tang,gangstarr,big L, talib kweli over any new artist any day

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