Instead, the rotation has an ERA of 4.78. Once again, when you're relying on Barry Zito to be one of your stoppers, it's not an ideal situation. The Old Tim Lincecum went out for a pack of cigarettes and at this point, it's probably safe to assume he's not coming back. The New Tim Lincecum, who we should just start calling Tim Lincecum, can make incremental improvements, but that's about it. Matt Cain is giving up home runs at higher rate than the guy on the street promoting a free comedy show gives out flyers.
And Vogelsong. His carriage has officially turned back into a pumpkin. Coming into his start on May 20, he had accumulated all of one quality start. He was having his best outing of the season, but then decided he had discovered a new sweet spot in his bat -- right where he grips it with his right hand. He tried to hit the ball with this part of the bat and yada, yada, yada, we'll see him in four to six weeks.
The offense has picked up the rotation thus far. Even though the Giants are falling behind in games, they have 12 comeback wins. But that's not a formula for sustained success. In fact, it makes me yearn for the tortuous formula of the past. Or better yet, if the pitching would go ahead and put together some historic numbers, as they seem to do every year, things would be peachy. Success is a lot like alcohol: once you get a taste, you tend to want more.
Giants fans don't have a lot to complain about these days, but it would be nice to see what this team could do when clicking on all cylinders.
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Instead, the rotation has an ERA of 4.78. Once again, when you're relying on Barry Zito to be one of your stoppers, it's not an ideal situation. The Old Tim Lincecum went out for a pack of cigarettes and at this point, it's probably safe to assume he's not coming back. The New Tim Lincecum, who we should just start calling Tim Lincecum, can make incremental improvements, but that's about it. Matt Cain is giving up home runs at higher rate than the guy on the street promoting a free comedy show gives out flyers.
And Vogelsong. His carriage has officially turned back into a pumpkin. Coming into his start on May 20, he had accumulated all of one quality start. He was having his best outing of the season, but then decided he had discovered a new sweet spot in his bat -- right where he grips it with his right hand. He tried to hit the ball with this part of the bat and yada, yada, yada, we'll see him in four to six weeks.
The offense has picked up the rotation thus far. Even though the Giants are falling behind in games, they have 12 comeback wins. But that's not a formula for sustained success. In fact, it makes me yearn for the tortuous formula of the past. Or better yet, if the pitching would go ahead and put together some historic numbers, as they seem to do every year, things would be peachy. Success is a lot like alcohol: once you get a taste, you tend to want more.
Giants fans don't have a lot to complain about these days, but it would be nice to see what this team could do when clicking on all cylinders.
They have been playing terrible defense as of late and starting pitching is in shambles, yet they are only 1 game back of Zona and 3.5 back from best record in NL. Righetti is a smart man, one of the best in the business. We are only 45 games into things right now, I'm willing to bet they will be able to turn it around.
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They have been playing terrible defense as of late and starting pitching is in shambles, yet they are only 1 game back of Zona and 3.5 back from best record in NL. Righetti is a smart man, one of the best in the business. We are only 45 games into things right now, I'm willing to bet they will be able to turn it around.
No worries,they have some front end guys at San Jose to take over for Zito and Lincecum in a year or two.Vogelsong,well he's done,it's a blessing he hurt himself.Just have to find some crafty veteran off the streets to get some mileage from.He can't be worse than Vogelsong.
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No worries,they have some front end guys at San Jose to take over for Zito and Lincecum in a year or two.Vogelsong,well he's done,it's a blessing he hurt himself.Just have to find some crafty veteran off the streets to get some mileage from.He can't be worse than Vogelsong.
No worries,they have some front end guys at San Jose to take over for Zito and Lincecum in a year or two.Vogelsong,well he's done,it's a blessing he hurt himself.Just have to find some crafty veteran off the streets to get some mileage from.He can't be worse than Vogelsong.
huh? Giants have won 19 of Zito's last 23 starts, including postseason. They won 16 straight starts that Zito was on the mound to end 2012 and begin 2013. Why would they replace him?
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Quote Originally Posted by joseuribe:
No worries,they have some front end guys at San Jose to take over for Zito and Lincecum in a year or two.Vogelsong,well he's done,it's a blessing he hurt himself.Just have to find some crafty veteran off the streets to get some mileage from.He can't be worse than Vogelsong.
huh? Giants have won 19 of Zito's last 23 starts, including postseason. They won 16 straight starts that Zito was on the mound to end 2012 and begin 2013. Why would they replace him?
and there's really no solid pitchers we have in San Jose to bring up, which is why Rosario is getting the call again. If they want to replace Vogelsong, they will need to make a trade.
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and there's really no solid pitchers we have in San Jose to bring up, which is why Rosario is getting the call again. If they want to replace Vogelsong, they will need to make a trade.
and there's really no solid pitchers we have in San Jose to bring up, which is why Rosario is getting the call again. If they want to replace Vogelsong, they will need to make a trade.
They have some quality starters in San Jose,but they aren't ready yet.I didn't say they would be called up now.Hence I said a year or two.And yes they will need to replace Zito in the near future.Hey I'll take all the smoke and mirrors he's got,and the magic(luck) he has going at home.And I appreciate the run he went on to bring the Giants another title,but you can't be serious if you think it's sustainable.
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Quote Originally Posted by dimndimn:
and there's really no solid pitchers we have in San Jose to bring up, which is why Rosario is getting the call again. If they want to replace Vogelsong, they will need to make a trade.
They have some quality starters in San Jose,but they aren't ready yet.I didn't say they would be called up now.Hence I said a year or two.And yes they will need to replace Zito in the near future.Hey I'll take all the smoke and mirrors he's got,and the magic(luck) he has going at home.And I appreciate the run he went on to bring the Giants another title,but you can't be serious if you think it's sustainable.
They have some quality starters in San Jose,but they aren't ready yet.I didn't say they would be called up now.Hence I said a year or two.And yes they will need to replace Zito in the near future.Hey I'll take all the smoke and mirrors he's got,and the magic(luck) he has going at home.And I appreciate the run he went on to bring the Giants another title,but you can't be serious if you think it's sustainable.
I'm as serious as Bochy hating the team wearing high socks and black billed hats on Sunday.
The big question to me is if Zito will take less money.
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Quote Originally Posted by joseuribe:
They have some quality starters in San Jose,but they aren't ready yet.I didn't say they would be called up now.Hence I said a year or two.And yes they will need to replace Zito in the near future.Hey I'll take all the smoke and mirrors he's got,and the magic(luck) he has going at home.And I appreciate the run he went on to bring the Giants another title,but you can't be serious if you think it's sustainable.
I'm as serious as Bochy hating the team wearing high socks and black billed hats on Sunday.
The big question to me is if Zito will take less money.
FYI Barry ZIto = Check your stats b4 u make stupid posts
FYI - I've watched every Zito start for the last 6 years.Check your fckn eyes and watch a game before you post about stats you ignorant POS.If you read my posts I say he will need to be replaced in the near future.His contract will be up and the Giants are not going to resign him.I know every fckn stat I need to know.He's now 61 - 72 with an ERA in the mid to high 4's as a Giant.What stat am I fckn missing?
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Quote Originally Posted by stats1:
FYI Barry ZIto = Check your stats b4 u make stupid posts
FYI - I've watched every Zito start for the last 6 years.Check your fckn eyes and watch a game before you post about stats you ignorant POS.If you read my posts I say he will need to be replaced in the near future.His contract will be up and the Giants are not going to resign him.I know every fckn stat I need to know.He's now 61 - 72 with an ERA in the mid to high 4's as a Giant.What stat am I fckn missing?
FYI Barry ZIto = Check your stats b4 u make stupid posts
Watch the regression begin.Zito has had a great run,but it can't be sustained with the mediocre stuff he has.It just can't and won't.He's awful on the road,and will regress at home as well.I guarantee it.
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Quote Originally Posted by stats1:
FYI Barry ZIto = Check your stats b4 u make stupid posts
Watch the regression begin.Zito has had a great run,but it can't be sustained with the mediocre stuff he has.It just can't and won't.He's awful on the road,and will regress at home as well.I guarantee it.
FYI - I've watched every Zito start for the last 6 years.Check your fckn eyes and watch a game before you post about stats you ignorant POS.If you read my posts I say he will need to be replaced in the near future.His contract will be up and the Giants are not going to resign him.I know every fckn stat I need to know.He's now 61 - 72 with an ERA in the mid to high 4's as a Giant.What stat am I fckn missing?
if u know every stat assshole is it a mid or high 4 era What does the fuckinggg gm report 2 u and let u know who they r going after and who they plan on signing or letting go??? U have no fuckinggg idea if they r going to resign ZIto or not u r on friggin covers 4 Christ sakes!!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by joseuribe:
FYI - I've watched every Zito start for the last 6 years.Check your fckn eyes and watch a game before you post about stats you ignorant POS.If you read my posts I say he will need to be replaced in the near future.His contract will be up and the Giants are not going to resign him.I know every fckn stat I need to know.He's now 61 - 72 with an ERA in the mid to high 4's as a Giant.What stat am I fckn missing?
if u know every stat assshole is it a mid or high 4 era What does the fuckinggg gm report 2 u and let u know who they r going after and who they plan on signing or letting go??? U have no fuckinggg idea if they r going to resign ZIto or not u r on friggin covers 4 Christ sakes!!!!
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