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    VTDon
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 11:58 AM ET #876

    Haha ya, Herb has over 200K viewers on his post and lets some idiot call his 2-3 game losing "cold" bother him. Get real Herb we all appreciate your picks and know you're legit. 
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    Haha ya, Herb has over 200K viewers on his post and lets some idiot call his 2-3 game losing "cold" bother him. Get real Herb we all appreciate your picks and know you're legit. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 12:20 PM ET #877

    Quote Originally Posted by monkeebooger:

    Herb- any feedback on Baltimore today bud? 

    I have Baltimore today actually. Now remember, the odds are +170 on the moneyline here so, it is implied that the odds are that, very likely, Baltimore won't win. I disagree, and think the odds are more like 50/50 and see value here. If it loses, cest la vie. Doesn't mean we're cold. That's just how it goes betting dogs. It is fun to feel like you're winning more often betting favorites, but most people don't pull out any long term profit...but then again, most bettors out there aren't profiting betting dogs or whatever else too.

    $607.43 to win $735 
    Baltimore Orioles +1 +121 
    vs Toronto Blue Jays

    Quick thought on the wager:
    We have a split series here. Last game and then Baltimore hits the road over to New York. In divisional matchups, history favors the road dog in September games since 2004 at a 128-141 (only 47.6% SU), but an average line of +147.5 and +45.88 units profit and +17.1 ROI on the blind. I also like the Orioles in a spot where they pulled the 1 run upset win under Buck Showalter. He's 84-66 +38.1 units in that situation if it is a divisional matchup. Go O's. 

    PS: I'm sorry you saw that as defensive housemoney21...and maybe you're right; however, I like helping people, and what (in my mind at least) I was doing was calling out an issue/phenomenon I've seen over many years where gamblers tend to overreact to recent performance and then completely change up their gambling strategy. I've seen people say, 'it is time to start fading' a viable long term system that's gone cold (or at least percieved to be cold) and then the whole thing turns into a gigantic mess and everyone starts fighting...mostly seen it over at SBR forum; won't ever post there again...whole other story. Anyways, everybody starts losing going back and forth on fading when cold and playing after a hot run and regression mows them down. People get mad at the poster etc. Just trying to avoid all that. 

    Keep your eyes on the money and stay the course and stay disciplined. You're right, I'm probably wasting my time getting all in a huff and defensive. Sometimes I get a little too passionate...


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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeebooger:

    Herb- any feedback on Baltimore today bud? 

    I have Baltimore today actually. Now remember, the odds are +170 on the moneyline here so, it is implied that the odds are that, very likely, Baltimore won't win. I disagree, and think the odds are more like 50/50 and see value here. If it loses, cest la vie. Doesn't mean we're cold. That's just how it goes betting dogs. It is fun to feel like you're winning more often betting favorites, but most people don't pull out any long term profit...but then again, most bettors out there aren't profiting betting dogs or whatever else too.

    $607.43 to win $735 
    Baltimore Orioles +1 +121 
    vs Toronto Blue Jays

    Quick thought on the wager:
    We have a split series here. Last game and then Baltimore hits the road over to New York. In divisional matchups, history favors the road dog in September games since 2004 at a 128-141 (only 47.6% SU), but an average line of +147.5 and +45.88 units profit and +17.1 ROI on the blind. I also like the Orioles in a spot where they pulled the 1 run upset win under Buck Showalter. He's 84-66 +38.1 units in that situation if it is a divisional matchup. Go O's. 

    PS: I'm sorry you saw that as defensive housemoney21...and maybe you're right; however, I like helping people, and what (in my mind at least) I was doing was calling out an issue/phenomenon I've seen over many years where gamblers tend to overreact to recent performance and then completely change up their gambling strategy. I've seen people say, 'it is time to start fading' a viable long term system that's gone cold (or at least percieved to be cold) and then the whole thing turns into a gigantic mess and everyone starts fighting...mostly seen it over at SBR forum; won't ever post there again...whole other story. Anyways, everybody starts losing going back and forth on fading when cold and playing after a hot run and regression mows them down. People get mad at the poster etc. Just trying to avoid all that. 

    Keep your eyes on the money and stay the course and stay disciplined. You're right, I'm probably wasting my time getting all in a huff and defensive. Sometimes I get a little too passionate...


     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 9:26 PM ET #878

    dogeatdog, glad you bought out! 

    Herb, you are the man. 
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    dogeatdog, glad you bought out! 

    Herb, you are the man. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 10:08 PM ET #879

    BOUNCE BACK, KEEP UP YOUR "SHARPSHOOTING"  DO YOU CAPP ANY OTHER SPORTS   THANKS VEITNAM VET
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    BOUNCE BACK, KEEP UP YOUR "SHARPSHOOTING"  DO YOU CAPP ANY OTHER SPORTS   THANKS VEITNAM VET
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 10:17 PM ET #880

    #967 Buck's O's +1 (+150) ($59 to win) WINNER
    over the Toronto Blue Jays
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    #967 Buck's O's +1 (+150) ($59 to win) WINNER
    over the Toronto Blue Jays
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2016 - 9:07 AM ET #881

    Thanks for the free pick. Helped me go 4-0 yesterday 
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    Thanks for the free pick. Helped me go 4-0 yesterday 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2016 - 11:19 AM ET #882

    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:


    $607.43 to win $735 
    Baltimore Orioles +1 +121 WINNER!
    vs Toronto Blue Jays

    Current Bankroll: $10,456.15
    from $4000 (+161.40 units)

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    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:


    $607.43 to win $735 
    Baltimore Orioles +1 +121 WINNER!
    vs Toronto Blue Jays

    Current Bankroll: $10,456.15
    from $4000 (+161.40 units)

     
    LAC63
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2016 - 11:48 AM ET #883

    Nice Pick !
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    Nice Pick !
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2016 - 2:00 PM ET #884

    Due to Herb's low profile nature,
    our long history warrants that I
    have to clue new readership in:
    His FB-savvy is greater still —
    so to the haters who've posted,
    you were attacking his side job.


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    Due to Herb's low profile nature,
    our long history warrants that I
    have to clue new readership in:
    His FB-savvy is greater still —
    so to the haters who've posted,
    you were attacking his side job.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 11:51 AM ET #885

    Quote Originally Posted by Pendo:

    Due to Herb's low profile nature,
    our long history warrants that I
    have to clue new readership in:
    His FB-savvy is greater still —
    so to the haters who've posted,
    you were attacking his side job.



    Lol, thanks Pendo.

    To clarify: I don't want to say anyone was 'hatin' -- I just got a little passionate about people turning away when they think a viable system is cold. Doesn't mean you're hating; it is actually a very common, normal human nature thing you just have to resist.

    Here's an example. Very simple:

    In NCAAF, I look to bet a team off ot 3+ straight losses facing a team off of 3+ straight wins. 

    That's it. So simple.

    It can be that simple because it is, what I call, a 'gut-twister' or a 'nose-pincher' bet. That is, the bet feels horribly uncomfortable....

    And that is really what you want, and by the same token, you should be very very wary of putting your hard earned money on a bet you feel very great and very comfortable about. 

    Betting can be very easy if you think about it this way.

    Find your squarest friend, show him the Sunday NFL card and ask him, as an NFL fan, quickly, who he or she would bet. Then just bet the opposite and I bet you'd do well. That is how the whole industry works; linesmakers don't think about getting even money so much as they try to get the majority of the bettors on the wrong side by thinking ahead and over chalking up a line on a public darling. Knowing that flawed and inherent human nature dictates most bettors' every decision. 

    Take it to the bank
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendo:

    Due to Herb's low profile nature,
    our long history warrants that I
    have to clue new readership in:
    His FB-savvy is greater still —
    so to the haters who've posted,
    you were attacking his side job.



    Lol, thanks Pendo.

    To clarify: I don't want to say anyone was 'hatin' -- I just got a little passionate about people turning away when they think a viable system is cold. Doesn't mean you're hating; it is actually a very common, normal human nature thing you just have to resist.

    Here's an example. Very simple:

    In NCAAF, I look to bet a team off ot 3+ straight losses facing a team off of 3+ straight wins. 

    That's it. So simple.

    It can be that simple because it is, what I call, a 'gut-twister' or a 'nose-pincher' bet. That is, the bet feels horribly uncomfortable....

    And that is really what you want, and by the same token, you should be very very wary of putting your hard earned money on a bet you feel very great and very comfortable about. 

    Betting can be very easy if you think about it this way.

    Find your squarest friend, show him the Sunday NFL card and ask him, as an NFL fan, quickly, who he or she would bet. Then just bet the opposite and I bet you'd do well. That is how the whole industry works; linesmakers don't think about getting even money so much as they try to get the majority of the bettors on the wrong side by thinking ahead and over chalking up a line on a public darling. Knowing that flawed and inherent human nature dictates most bettors' every decision. 

    Take it to the bank
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 1:06 PM ET #886

    $145 to win $275.50
    Cincinnati Reds +190 
    vs Chicago Cubs

    Fade plus .600 Favorites at the end of regular season: 218-185 -93.44 units SU +15.5% roi fade. Very simple, very powerful.
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    $145 to win $275.50
    Cincinnati Reds +190 
    vs Chicago Cubs

    Fade plus .600 Favorites at the end of regular season: 218-185 -93.44 units SU +15.5% roi fade. Very simple, very powerful.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 2:02 PM ET #887

    are you going to continue into october?
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    are you going to continue into october?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 4:34 PM ET #888

    Quote Originally Posted by lelliott79:

    are you going to continue into october?

    Yes.

    Been thinking about starting an NFL thread later on when MLB is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lelliott79:

    are you going to continue into october?

    Yes.

    Been thinking about starting an NFL thread later on when MLB is over.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 6:00 PM ET #889

    lookin good in cinci man. hope to see you in the nfl spot tho i rarely mess with that sport. great season as usual man. thanks for all you do
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    lookin good in cinci man. hope to see you in the nfl spot tho i rarely mess with that sport. great season as usual man. thanks for all you do
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 6:13 PM ET #890

    Herb
    —• you're smokin' !


    Please adjust the computer program for the
    games tomorrow all starting at the same time
    (because of the implications derived from this
    year's Wild WILD CARD TIEs
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    Herb
    —• you're smokin' !


    Please adjust the computer program for the
    games tomorrow all starting at the same time
    (because of the implications derived from this
    year's Wild WILD CARD TIEs
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2016 - 11:18 AM ET #891

    Quote Originally Posted by Pendo:

    Herb
    —• you're smokin' !


    Please adjust the computer program for the
    games tomorrow all starting at the same time
    (because of the implications derived from this
    year's Wild WILD CARD TIEs

    rearrange that a little...

    —• you're smokin' !
    Herb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendo:

    Herb
    —• you're smokin' !


    Please adjust the computer program for the
    games tomorrow all starting at the same time
    (because of the implications derived from this
    year's Wild WILD CARD TIEs

    rearrange that a little...

    —• you're smokin' !
    Herb

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2016 - 11:52 AM ET #892

    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:


    Yes.

    Been thinking about starting an NFL thread later on when MLB is over.


    Cool Beans!
    Thanks for the picks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:


    Yes.

    Been thinking about starting an NFL thread later on when MLB is over.


    Cool Beans!
    Thanks for the picks!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 1:36 PM ET #893

    Quote Originally Posted by Thebonzman:


    Cool Beans!
    Thanks for the picks!

    Yup, remind me in case I forget to start an NFL thread.

    My big bet this weekend was on the Pittsburgh Steelers -4.5 (not dogs) which crushed harder than any matchup this week (43-14 over the KC Cheifs).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thebonzman:


    Cool Beans!
    Thanks for the picks!

    Yup, remind me in case I forget to start an NFL thread.

    My big bet this weekend was on the Pittsburgh Steelers -4.5 (not dogs) which crushed harder than any matchup this week (43-14 over the KC Cheifs).

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 1:38 PM ET #894

    Quote Originally Posted by dogeatdog:

    Are you going to do the playoffs?
    Giants w/ Madbum are dogs...sounds like a winner to me. 
    San Francisco Giants at New York Mets - National League Wild Card Game

    Oh yeah I will. May only have like 0-3 wagers for the whole playoff, but I'll try to share some leans or thought. 

    I'll look at tomorrows game tomorrow. No lean yet. Possible selection there, but the odds are, no pick.

    Stay tuned...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogeatdog:

    Are you going to do the playoffs?
    Giants w/ Madbum are dogs...sounds like a winner to me. 
    San Francisco Giants at New York Mets - National League Wild Card Game

    Oh yeah I will. May only have like 0-3 wagers for the whole playoff, but I'll try to share some leans or thought. 

    I'll look at tomorrows game tomorrow. No lean yet. Possible selection there, but the odds are, no pick.

    Stay tuned...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 10:36 PM ET #895


    whats your record this year?
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    whats your record this year?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbreezyy:

    whats your record this year?

    Current Bankroll: $10,456.15
    from $4000 (+161.40 units)

    I haven't been keeping track of the SU w/l record, but is probably nothing special at around 45 to 52% since we're only betting plus odds on everything. If someone wants to go back through the thread and get that, I suppose it would be interesting, but all that really matters to me is the $$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbreezyy:

    whats your record this year?

    Current Bankroll: $10,456.15
    from $4000 (+161.40 units)

    I haven't been keeping track of the SU w/l record, but is probably nothing special at around 45 to 52% since we're only betting plus odds on everything. If someone wants to go back through the thread and get that, I suppose it would be interesting, but all that really matters to me is the $$$.

     
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    I forgot to add the big +190 odds Reds win on the first of the month. So the record is actually:

    Current Bankroll: $10,731.65
    from $4000 (+168.29 units)

    For today, I have a wild card wager on the O's:
    $149 to win $196.68 
    Baltimore Orioles +132 
    vs Toronto Blue Jays

    Since 2004, Favorites off of 2+ straight single run wins are just -92.58 units (389-334 SU avg line -150.3).
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    I forgot to add the big +190 odds Reds win on the first of the month. So the record is actually:

    Current Bankroll: $10,731.65
    from $4000 (+168.29 units)

    For today, I have a wild card wager on the O's:
    $149 to win $196.68 
    Baltimore Orioles +132 
    vs Toronto Blue Jays

    Since 2004, Favorites off of 2+ straight single run wins are just -92.58 units (389-334 SU avg line -150.3).
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 12:31 PM ET #898

    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dbreezyy:

    whats your record this year?
    Current Bankroll: $10,456.15from $4000 (+161.40 units)I haven't been keeping track of the SU w/l record, but is probably nothing special at around 45 to 52% since we're only betting plus odds on everything. If someone wants to go back through the thread and get that, I suppose it would be interesting, but all that really matters to me is the $$$.

    You up that many units since 2012 or this year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by herbshack:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dbreezyy:

    whats your record this year?
    Current Bankroll: $10,456.15from $4000 (+161.40 units)I haven't been keeping track of the SU w/l record, but is probably nothing special at around 45 to 52% since we're only betting plus odds on everything. If someone wants to go back through the thread and get that, I suppose it would be interesting, but all that really matters to me is the $$$.

    You up that many units since 2012 or this year?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 12:42 PM ET #899

    Is the 10k your at including the 4K, how much do you bet a unit? Thanks man
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    Is the 10k your at including the 4K, how much do you bet a unit? Thanks man
     
     
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    "Since 2004, Favorites off of 2+ straight single run wins are just -92.58 units (389-334 SU avg line -150.3)."

    With all due respect,
    b/c Playoffs -stat is
    invalid, regrettably.

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    "Since 2004, Favorites off of 2+ straight single run wins are just -92.58 units (389-334 SU avg line -150.3)."

    With all due respect,
    b/c Playoffs -stat is
    invalid, regrettably.

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