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    TheGoldenGoose
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2015 - 6:24 PM ET #26


    BTW Key, how can you play an O / U without any HP Umpire info?

    Seems to me that is necessary input or do you simply have other trends which are very strong?


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    BTW Key, how can you play an O / U without any HP Umpire info?

    Seems to me that is necessary input or do you simply have other trends which are very strong?


     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2015 - 6:28 PM ET #27

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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2015 - 6:58 PM ET #29

    o.k. mr. key I am with you on all and the lean to . I feel that you are going to start a real hot late season run and I am still riding with you at the same risk amounts, as I have been all year. thank you for all you do and mostly for the PLUS bankroll. somehow I can  feel that this is your time sir.g ood luck to all of us on  board
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    o.k. mr. key I am with you on all and the lean to . I feel that you are going to start a real hot late season run and I am still riding with you at the same risk amounts, as I have been all year. thank you for all you do and mostly for the PLUS bankroll. somehow I can  feel that this is your time sir.g ood luck to all of us on  board
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2015 - 7:08 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    BTW Key, how can you play an O / U without any HP Umpire info?

    Seems to me that is necessary input or do you simply have other trends which are very strong?


    I confess I didn't like doing that Goose, but all the other indicators and projections are at least 2+ runs under and that is a heck of a margin on a total. I am also encouraged that the sharp money among totals players seems to agree, as the juice is going to the under and that is common with totals. Even when you know the umpire, he is not the guy that throws or swings at the ball and in the end they determine the score. 
    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    BTW Key, how can you play an O / U without any HP Umpire info?

    Seems to me that is necessary input or do you simply have other trends which are very strong?


    I confess I didn't like doing that Goose, but all the other indicators and projections are at least 2+ runs under and that is a heck of a margin on a total. I am also encouraged that the sharp money among totals players seems to agree, as the juice is going to the under and that is common with totals. Even when you know the umpire, he is not the guy that throws or swings at the ball and in the end they determine the score. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2015 - 8:59 PM ET #31

    Good luck buddy. It just seems when you bet a lot of games it doesn't go well so I'm gonna stand on the sidelines but I hope you sweep the board !!!
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    Good luck buddy. It just seems when you bet a lot of games it doesn't go well so I'm gonna stand on the sidelines but I hope you sweep the board !!!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2015 - 11:11 PM ET #32

    Ouch. 
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2015 - 11:11 PM ET #33

    wow once again....
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2015 - 1:02 AM ET #35

    Follow a lot but you're ice cold 
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2015 - 1:14 AM ET #36

    6-29
    YTD 91-61 (+$9,730.23)
    8-14
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    YTD 25-33 (-$2,338.34)
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    8-14
    YTD 116-94 (+$7,391.89)

    YTD 25-33 (-$2,338.34)
     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2015 - 3:11 AM ET #37

    So You created an account to critique a guy who has a documented record of success over SEVERAL seasons to grace this forum with your invaluable words of wisdom....
    You will not last long bud.

    Now this is the part when you say you've been doing this for a long time and know what you're talking about
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    So You created an account to critique a guy who has a documented record of success over SEVERAL seasons to grace this forum with your invaluable words of wisdom....
    You will not last long bud.

    Now this is the part when you say you've been doing this for a long time and know what you're talking about
     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2015 - 3:42 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterPoe:



    I'm just making a valid observation that every time Key Element plays 4 or more plays, he gets killed. As do his followers. Others here know this to be true. Why don't you?

    I wasn't saying anything about his overall success. Everyone knows he successful. I'm just saying when Key posts 4 or more plays in a day, the chances are good there'll be a bloodletting. Hence, my suggestion he sticks to posting 1 or 2 plays a day. He's much more successful that way and this strategy will also limit his exposure.



    You're so wrong and the funny part is you think that your opinion is valuable. Do you think a successful capper will set a pre-definite number of plays each day???

    He can have 0 play a given day and 5 plays another day, it all depends of how many games represent value (positive return on risk) in his opinion. It would be dumb from his part to limit his plays to 2 games when he found 4 games that represent value. Each game is independent!!
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    I'm just making a valid observation that every time Key Element plays 4 or more plays, he gets killed. As do his followers. Others here know this to be true. Why don't you?

    I wasn't saying anything about his overall success. Everyone knows he successful. I'm just saying when Key posts 4 or more plays in a day, the chances are good there'll be a bloodletting. Hence, my suggestion he sticks to posting 1 or 2 plays a day. He's much more successful that way and this strategy will also limit his exposure.



    You're so wrong and the funny part is you think that your opinion is valuable. Do you think a successful capper will set a pre-definite number of plays each day???

    He can have 0 play a given day and 5 plays another day, it all depends of how many games represent value (positive return on risk) in his opinion. It would be dumb from his part to limit his plays to 2 games when he found 4 games that represent value. Each game is independent!!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2015 - 7:04 AM ET #39

    1 game a day will keep the collection agency away
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2015 - 8:00 AM ET #40

    You don't have to bet all the games Key.... announces.

    Just pick what you like from it and use it as a tool not as FREE Money.

    He will never get all of them right so thank him for his hard work and if you got nothing better to say, suck it up.


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    You don't have to bet all the games Key.... announces.

    Just pick what you like from it and use it as a tool not as FREE Money.

    He will never get all of them right so thank him for his hard work and if you got nothing better to say, suck it up.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2015 - 8:07 AM ET #41

    94 losses that's more stress than I could handle
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2015 - 9:35 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by VegasHotBoy:

    1 game a day will keep the collection agency away


    except when you go 2-5 back to back weeks....


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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasHotBoy:

    1 game a day will keep the collection agency away


    except when you go 2-5 back to back weeks....


     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2015 - 9:55 AM ET #43

    All these people criticizcriticizing key,but he has so many that wait for his post,because he has so much knowledge of the game. I check out his post all the time but don't blindly follow. I've been successful following him. If he's on a game I like, I'm betting it. I don't know he's overall record,but I do know he's got a lot of knowledge of this sport.
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    All these people criticizcriticizing key,but he has so many that wait for his post,because he has so much knowledge of the game. I check out his post all the time but don't blindly follow. I've been successful following him. If he's on a game I like, I'm betting it. I don't know he's overall record,but I do know he's got a lot of knowledge of this sport.
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