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    MarlinsBust3r
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2015 - 5:32 PM ET #826

    Emerald,

    You make a very good point about Carrasco and now I'll have to check out that Jays runline!

    Thanks for the clear headed response.

    Good luck to you sir.
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    Emerald,

    You make a very good point about Carrasco and now I'll have to check out that Jays runline!

    Thanks for the clear headed response.

    Good luck to you sir.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2015 - 5:39 PM ET #827

    Here are my plays for the early games tonight. Will probably have one play on a later game that I will add as it gets closer to game time. 

    I actually like the first 3 plays on the run line more than the money line but they are very Juicy so up to you if you want to play them with that much Juice. Think 2 of 3 at least will cash on the moneyline on those first 3 though. 

    I am going to start tracking my record on a weekly basis and Units won or lost so people can decide if they want to follow or fade. Each play is for 1 Unit. Weeks are going to be records from start of  Monday through end of Sunday. Good Luck! 

    To start this week off we have :

    1.) Cincinnati moneyline +117 1 Unit to win 1.17
     
    2.) San Diego moneyline +110 1 Units to win 1.10

    3.) Toronto moneyline +110 1 Unit to win 1.10

    4.) Cleveland moneyline -116 1.16 Units to win 1.00

    5.) 3 team Parlay Cincy +1.5 -200 , San Diego +1.5 -220, Toronto

    +1.5 -200 =1 Unit to win 2.27 Units


    Good luck on everyone's plays tonight. 
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    Here are my plays for the early games tonight. Will probably have one play on a later game that I will add as it gets closer to game time. 

    I actually like the first 3 plays on the run line more than the money line but they are very Juicy so up to you if you want to play them with that much Juice. Think 2 of 3 at least will cash on the moneyline on those first 3 though. 

    I am going to start tracking my record on a weekly basis and Units won or lost so people can decide if they want to follow or fade. Each play is for 1 Unit. Weeks are going to be records from start of  Monday through end of Sunday. Good Luck! 

    To start this week off we have :

    1.) Cincinnati moneyline +117 1 Unit to win 1.17
     
    2.) San Diego moneyline +110 1 Units to win 1.10

    3.) Toronto moneyline +110 1 Unit to win 1.10

    4.) Cleveland moneyline -116 1.16 Units to win 1.00

    5.) 3 team Parlay Cincy +1.5 -200 , San Diego +1.5 -220, Toronto

    +1.5 -200 =1 Unit to win 2.27 Units


    Good luck on everyone's plays tonight. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2015 - 5:41 PM ET #828

    Quote Originally Posted by MarlinsBust3r:

    Emerald,

    You make a very good point about Carrasco and now I'll have to check out that Jays runline!

    Thanks for the clear headed response.

    Good luck to you sir.

    That Jays runline is Juicy but I like it a lot. I decided to put it in a parlay with the other run lines I liked. 

    Good luck on your plays. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarlinsBust3r:

    Emerald,

    You make a very good point about Carrasco and now I'll have to check out that Jays runline!

    Thanks for the clear headed response.

    Good luck to you sir.

    That Jays runline is Juicy but I like it a lot. I decided to put it in a parlay with the other run lines I liked. 

    Good luck on your plays. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2015 - 5:53 PM ET #829

    Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:


    Ok.

    I hope you do make as much as possible!  I really do.

    Just hope you've learned, in your 20 years, that anything that is based on a set variable such as (whenever this line does this, or that line does that we bet this or go against that), it WILL reverse eventually.  That's just the math of this.  There is no way around it.

    I'm not here just to be negative.  I'm only here to share my 15 years of experience, on how I have seen everything too.  I want you guys to win money.  But, I'd hate for you guys to put stake in this as if it'll hold up long term.

    I mean, that's what it's all about right?  Being able to win money consistently long term?

    No worries. You are welcome to have an opinion. I agree with 3/4'ths of what you have written. I don't make my plays based only on if a line does this or that. It is just one variable I use. I do know from talking to sports book directors and listening to them and reading about it that there are more to certain lines than others and more than some people think but I won't post a long essay about it. 
    Thanks for sharing your opinion. 

    We all would like to make money long term for sure 

    Doing this is never easy though. lol.

    Good luck on your plays 
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:


    Ok.

    I hope you do make as much as possible!  I really do.

    Just hope you've learned, in your 20 years, that anything that is based on a set variable such as (whenever this line does this, or that line does that we bet this or go against that), it WILL reverse eventually.  That's just the math of this.  There is no way around it.

    I'm not here just to be negative.  I'm only here to share my 15 years of experience, on how I have seen everything too.  I want you guys to win money.  But, I'd hate for you guys to put stake in this as if it'll hold up long term.

    I mean, that's what it's all about right?  Being able to win money consistently long term?

    No worries. You are welcome to have an opinion. I agree with 3/4'ths of what you have written. I don't make my plays based only on if a line does this or that. It is just one variable I use. I do know from talking to sports book directors and listening to them and reading about it that there are more to certain lines than others and more than some people think but I won't post a long essay about it. 
    Thanks for sharing your opinion. 

    We all would like to make money long term for sure 

    Doing this is never easy though. lol.

    Good luck on your plays 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2015 - 9:58 PM ET #830

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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2015 - 10:33 PM ET #831

    Well terrible start to the week for me. Sorry to anyone that followed.

    Jose Reyes with one of the worst errors I have ever seen that would have probably given the Blue Jays the win and for sure covered the runline for the parlay which would have put me at 3-2 for the night at plus money but instead because of it finished 1-4  for minus -2.99 units to start the week.

    That's how it goes though. 

    Back tomorrow . Hope you all did well tonight. . 
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    Well terrible start to the week for me. Sorry to anyone that followed.

    Jose Reyes with one of the worst errors I have ever seen that would have probably given the Blue Jays the win and for sure covered the runline for the parlay which would have put me at 3-2 for the night at plus money but instead because of it finished 1-4  for minus -2.99 units to start the week.

    That's how it goes though. 

    Back tomorrow . Hope you all did well tonight. . 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2015 - 11:46 PM ET #832

    Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:


    I have nothing to do with this thread or the idea behind it...

    However, I can tell you one thing.  In all my years of being alive, around professionals, people with money, and anyone who really puts in any hard work at being a true "intellectual"....the way you are reacting here?  Leads one to believe you are truly someone completely different from what you are trying to convince people you are.

    The guy did not say anything personal, except make some REAL statements about sports betting.  Yet you took it personal and responded in a very childish, personal manor.  I'm not even sure high schoolers are talking to each other that way anymore.

    Fact of the matter is this...line movements mean absolutely nothing long term.  They are no different than any other random trend.  I can say "Every time there is a half moon, and this particular team is playing at home, at this time of the day, this team wins".  And that trend can go on for a long time.  Does that mean it's something that should be banked on long term?  No.  All you're doing is enjoying a short term trend in hitting the games that are being represented poorly, incorrectly, or accurately, by the public and sharp action (money).

    The only thing the line indicates is public perception and money being wagered, which then moves the line, to encourage more action on the opposite side to even things out.  How any of that indicates the outcomes of the game, or, how any of you can see how that indicates the outcome of the game is ......weird,....to say the least.  

    I'm not saying that weird is wrong....I'm simply saying that, you are being convinced by short term trends.  And short term can last an entire season....this is why bookies are around and are wealthy.  Some trends can even last for 4-5 years before the deviation finally shows its ugly face and goes the complete opposite way.  If your system is based on a "trend".....then it will even out.  No matter how successful it is doing now, or the next few seasons. 

    You gotta wonder why all these "hot handicappers", are selling their picks as covers experts and going "tout".  They do this because it is win win for them to SELL the picks.  And let someone ELSE deal with the ups and downs of sports betting, while they make their "guaranteed money" from selling the picks, and subscriptions, ......and all they have to do is maintain their "55%-60%" supposed "professional win rates".  An idiot, with basic knowledge of form can pick 55-60% long term.  However, most will fail due to POOR money management, and poor dedication long term.  

    The bookies are not giving "signals".  They don't know the outcome.  They only know the projected value of the team, the projected public perception,.... until the money starts coming in...which will move the line accordingly.  I can promise you.....the line and the outcome are in no where directly connected.  Even if it works 100 times.

    That's like assuming, that if a person wins 23 hands of baccarat...they've figured something out.  Or if a person turns $800 into $50k playing craps (using a system), they've figured something out.


    Say dude, NICE WRITE-UP. Problem is, 97% of the people on this site won't understand it. I'm glad I'm part of that 3%. You hit it exactly on it's head. These young guys think they know everything about everything to say it widely. Their penis gets hard when the wind blows towards them. Bottom line, let's let these young guys live a little and they will slowly understand how gambling works. They'll understand that NO ONE understands it. These guys have no idea what, "let's let" means. They will try to use it in a sentence themselves tomorrow and will screw it up. Anyway, GL to you dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsonnow1:


    I have nothing to do with this thread or the idea behind it...

    However, I can tell you one thing.  In all my years of being alive, around professionals, people with money, and anyone who really puts in any hard work at being a true "intellectual"....the way you are reacting here?  Leads one to believe you are truly someone completely different from what you are trying to convince people you are.

    The guy did not say anything personal, except make some REAL statements about sports betting.  Yet you took it personal and responded in a very childish, personal manor.  I'm not even sure high schoolers are talking to each other that way anymore.

    Fact of the matter is this...line movements mean absolutely nothing long term.  They are no different than any other random trend.  I can say "Every time there is a half moon, and this particular team is playing at home, at this time of the day, this team wins".  And that trend can go on for a long time.  Does that mean it's something that should be banked on long term?  No.  All you're doing is enjoying a short term trend in hitting the games that are being represented poorly, incorrectly, or accurately, by the public and sharp action (money).

    The only thing the line indicates is public perception and money being wagered, which then moves the line, to encourage more action on the opposite side to even things out.  How any of that indicates the outcomes of the game, or, how any of you can see how that indicates the outcome of the game is ......weird,....to say the least.  

    I'm not saying that weird is wrong....I'm simply saying that, you are being convinced by short term trends.  And short term can last an entire season....this is why bookies are around and are wealthy.  Some trends can even last for 4-5 years before the deviation finally shows its ugly face and goes the complete opposite way.  If your system is based on a "trend".....then it will even out.  No matter how successful it is doing now, or the next few seasons. 

    You gotta wonder why all these "hot handicappers", are selling their picks as covers experts and going "tout".  They do this because it is win win for them to SELL the picks.  And let someone ELSE deal with the ups and downs of sports betting, while they make their "guaranteed money" from selling the picks, and subscriptions, ......and all they have to do is maintain their "55%-60%" supposed "professional win rates".  An idiot, with basic knowledge of form can pick 55-60% long term.  However, most will fail due to POOR money management, and poor dedication long term.  

    The bookies are not giving "signals".  They don't know the outcome.  They only know the projected value of the team, the projected public perception,.... until the money starts coming in...which will move the line accordingly.  I can promise you.....the line and the outcome are in no where directly connected.  Even if it works 100 times.

    That's like assuming, that if a person wins 23 hands of baccarat...they've figured something out.  Or if a person turns $800 into $50k playing craps (using a system), they've figured something out.


    Say dude, NICE WRITE-UP. Problem is, 97% of the people on this site won't understand it. I'm glad I'm part of that 3%. You hit it exactly on it's head. These young guys think they know everything about everything to say it widely. Their penis gets hard when the wind blows towards them. Bottom line, let's let these young guys live a little and they will slowly understand how gambling works. They'll understand that NO ONE understands it. These guys have no idea what, "let's let" means. They will try to use it in a sentence themselves tomorrow and will screw it up. Anyway, GL to you dude.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2015 - 3:57 AM ET #833

    I am done here i will not share my pics or my knowledge in this thread anymore i am far from a kid you just don't know lol i wish yyou would find out i would love to show you a kid i like to ground and pound you little sob's faces in....so if you want my plays and i will win more than these clueless fuks that has come in here i know that...


    so freind me or have another way to get with me for plays let me know i am not returning to this thread after this writeup good luck with these fukkk faces emerald they are clueless.

    I am out and this thread is done!
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    I am done here i will not share my pics or my knowledge in this thread anymore i am far from a kid you just don't know lol i wish yyou would find out i would love to show you a kid i like to ground and pound you little sob's faces in....so if you want my plays and i will win more than these clueless fuks that has come in here i know that...


    so freind me or have another way to get with me for plays let me know i am not returning to this thread after this writeup good luck with these fukkk faces emerald they are clueless.

    I am out and this thread is done!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2015 - 7:55 AM ET #834

    Red  can you add me too your friends list I wood like to continue to  follow

     
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    Red  can you add me too your friends list I wood like to continue to  follow

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2015 - 11:43 AM ET #835

    Any other way to contact u D4Reds? Email maybe? Id like to continue following ur picks.
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    Any other way to contact u D4Reds? Email maybe? Id like to continue following ur picks.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2015 - 12:43 PM ET #836

    Quote Originally Posted by d41reds:

    I am done here i will not share my pics or my knowledge in this thread anymore i am far from a kid you just don't know lol i wish yyou would find out i would love to show you a kid i like to ground and pound you little sob's faces in....so if you want my plays and i will win more than these clueless fuks that has come in here i know that...


    so freind me or have another way to get with me for plays let me know i am not returning to this thread after this writeup good luck with these fukkk faces emerald they are clueless.

    I am out and this thread is done!

    Hook, line and sinker...and you guys will fall for it. This is exactly how these guys go tout.
    Are you that unstable or thin-skinned that you let people on the other end of a COMPUTER get to you like this? Wow!!! Good luck with your tout service. Sorry to see you leave.
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    I am done here i will not share my pics or my knowledge in this thread anymore i am far from a kid you just don't know lol i wish yyou would find out i would love to show you a kid i like to ground and pound you little sob's faces in....so if you want my plays and i will win more than these clueless fuks that has come in here i know that...


    so freind me or have another way to get with me for plays let me know i am not returning to this thread after this writeup good luck with these fukkk faces emerald they are clueless.

    I am out and this thread is done!

    Hook, line and sinker...and you guys will fall for it. This is exactly how these guys go tout.
    Are you that unstable or thin-skinned that you let people on the other end of a COMPUTER get to you like this? Wow!!! Good luck with your tout service. Sorry to see you leave.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2015 - 12:52 PM ET #837

    Quote Originally Posted by d41reds:

    I am done here i will not share my pics or my knowledge in this thread anymore i am far from a kid you just don't know lol i wish yyou would find out i would love to show you a kid i like to ground and pound you little sob's faces in....so if you want my plays and i will win more than these clueless fuks that has come in here i know that...


    so freind me or have another way to get with me for plays let me know i am not returning to this thread after this writeup good luck with these fukkk faces emerald they are clueless.

    I am out and this thread is done!




    HAHAHAHA....What will the betting world do without you??? Guess this is the end of winning bets! Looks like covers is going to shut down now!
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    I am done here i will not share my pics or my knowledge in this thread anymore i am far from a kid you just don't know lol i wish yyou would find out i would love to show you a kid i like to ground and pound you little sob's faces in....so if you want my plays and i will win more than these clueless fuks that has come in here i know that...


    so freind me or have another way to get with me for plays let me know i am not returning to this thread after this writeup good luck with these fukkk faces emerald they are clueless.

    I am out and this thread is done!




    HAHAHAHA....What will the betting world do without you??? Guess this is the end of winning bets! Looks like covers is going to shut down now!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2015 - 1:13 PM ET #839

    I don't think anyone is going tout. I will just start a new thread. No big deal.  
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    I don't think anyone is going tout. I will just start a new thread. No big deal.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2015 - 1:27 PM ET #840

    How much of an attention person do you have to be to come into someones else large thread and post your plays?  Emerald trying to jump on the views this thread gets, thats pathetic.  
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2015 - 1:30 PM ET #841

    Quote Originally Posted by emeraldsports:

    I don't think anyone is going tout. I will just start a new thread. No big deal.  
    PLEASE DO!!
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    I don't think anyone is going tout. I will just start a new thread. No big deal.  
    PLEASE DO!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-walk:

    How much of an attention person do you have to be to come into someones else large thread and post your plays?  Emerald trying to jump on the views this thread gets, thats pathetic.  

    Not sure where you are coming from. Have you been following this thread for very  long? I had asked d41red if I could post something that I had found that had been working pretty well about 3 or 4 weeks ago and he said to go for it and that is why I had been posting them. So not sure what your deal is but you obviously have no idea what has been going on. 

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    How much of an attention person do you have to be to come into someones else large thread and post your plays?  Emerald trying to jump on the views this thread gets, thats pathetic.  

    Not sure where you are coming from. Have you been following this thread for very  long? I had asked d41red if I could post something that I had found that had been working pretty well about 3 or 4 weeks ago and he said to go for it and that is why I had been posting them. So not sure what your deal is but you obviously have no idea what has been going on. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2015 - 1:59 PM ET #843

    Quote Originally Posted by emeraldsports:


    Not sure where you are coming from. Have you been following this thread for very  long? I had asked d41red if I could post something that I had found that had been working pretty well about 3 or 4 weeks ago and he said to go for it and that is why I had been posting them. So not sure what your deal is but you obviously have no idea what has been going on. 


    Well ok ya it's true I did just assume some things and havent been following.  BUt why is d41red so pissed off then?  I thought it was cause u came in and jocked his thread.  
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    Not sure where you are coming from. Have you been following this thread for very  long? I had asked d41red if I could post something that I had found that had been working pretty well about 3 or 4 weeks ago and he said to go for it and that is why I had been posting them. So not sure what your deal is but you obviously have no idea what has been going on. 


    Well ok ya it's true I did just assume some things and havent been following.  BUt why is d41red so pissed off then?  I thought it was cause u came in and jocked his thread.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-walk:


    Well ok ya it's true I did just assume some things and havent been following.  BUt why is d41red so pissed off then?  I thought it was cause u came in and jocked his thread.  

    No worries man. No he isn't mad at me. He is upset with others in this thread. Has nothing to do with me. 
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    Well ok ya it's true I did just assume some things and havent been following.  BUt why is d41red so pissed off then?  I thought it was cause u came in and jocked his thread.  

    No worries man. No he isn't mad at me. He is upset with others in this thread. Has nothing to do with me. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by d41reds:

    I am done here i will not share my pics or my knowledge in this thread anymore i am far from a kid you just don't know lol i wish yyou would find out i would love to show you a kid i like to ground and pound you little sob's faces in....so if you want my plays and i will win more than these clueless fuks that has come in here i know that...


    so freind me or have another way to get with me for plays let me know i am not returning to this thread after this writeup good luck with these fukkk faces emerald they are clueless.

    I am out and this thread is done!
    Dude, it's spelled "friend". If you're not a kid, then stop acting like a 2yr old cry baby. Geez!! Really, you want to pound on someone's face. Sounds like a punk who hasn't grown-up. Listen, with all your little remarks about pounding and cussing you do. You can't take it when someone challenges you. Well, KIDS can't take it. Look at me. You call me names, cuss at me, make fun of me. All I do is just reply back in a mature matter, while laughing at you. You'll understand things better when you became a little older. Until then, keep-on wasting your time looking at lines, and keep cussing at everyone. Cussing went out of style back in the 80"s. Can't people come-up with a more intelligent thing to say than, "fuk"? I know I can.
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    I am done here i will not share my pics or my knowledge in this thread anymore i am far from a kid you just don't know lol i wish yyou would find out i would love to show you a kid i like to ground and pound you little sob's faces in....so if you want my plays and i will win more than these clueless fuks that has come in here i know that...


    so freind me or have another way to get with me for plays let me know i am not returning to this thread after this writeup good luck with these fukkk faces emerald they are clueless.

    I am out and this thread is done!
    Dude, it's spelled "friend". If you're not a kid, then stop acting like a 2yr old cry baby. Geez!! Really, you want to pound on someone's face. Sounds like a punk who hasn't grown-up. Listen, with all your little remarks about pounding and cussing you do. You can't take it when someone challenges you. Well, KIDS can't take it. Look at me. You call me names, cuss at me, make fun of me. All I do is just reply back in a mature matter, while laughing at you. You'll understand things better when you became a little older. Until then, keep-on wasting your time looking at lines, and keep cussing at everyone. Cussing went out of style back in the 80"s. Can't people come-up with a more intelligent thing to say than, "fuk"? I know I can.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathwiz:

    Dude, it's spelled "friend". If you're not a kid, then stop acting like a 2yr old cry baby. Geez!! Really, you want to pound on someone's face. Sounds like a punk who hasn't grown-up. Listen, with all your little remarks about pounding and cussing you do. You can't take it when someone challenges you. Well, KIDS can't take it. Look at me. You call me names, cuss at me, make fun of me. All I do is just reply back in a mature matter, while laughing at you. You'll understand things better when you became a little older. Until then, keep-on wasting your time looking at lines, and keep cussing at everyone. Cussing went out of style back in the 80"s. Can't people come-up with a more intelligent thing to say than, "fuk"? I know I can.
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    Dude, it's spelled "friend". If you're not a kid, then stop acting like a 2yr old cry baby. Geez!! Really, you want to pound on someone's face. Sounds like a punk who hasn't grown-up. Listen, with all your little remarks about pounding and cussing you do. You can't take it when someone challenges you. Well, KIDS can't take it. Look at me. You call me names, cuss at me, make fun of me. All I do is just reply back in a mature matter, while laughing at you. You'll understand things better when you became a little older. Until then, keep-on wasting your time looking at lines, and keep cussing at everyone. Cussing went out of style back in the 80"s. Can't people come-up with a more intelligent thing to say than, "fuk"? I know I can.
    Yourself
     
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    Lol Hahaha damn this is an oldie but was fun.  I still do this today all this time. 2015-2022 

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