Especially on Freaky Friday
laying more than 130 in baseball is financial suicide
Especially on Freaky Friday
Halladay was not a lock.
Tell that to the guyy that said it this morning. No game in any sport is ever a lock, therefore there is no need to ever lay wood.
Halladay was not a lock.
Tell that to the guyy that said it this morning. No game in any sport is ever a lock, therefore there is no need to ever lay wood.
No biggie. Losing happens. Losing on Dogs happens all the time. But so does losing on favorites. Happens all the time. Losing on 4 dogs tonight hurts and hurts bad, but it doesn't blow me out. If you had the Jays and 3 other losers you got blown out. The Yankees should have lost at -200 as well. And Tampa BARELY got by the horrible Nats at -250. Thats baseball. But plenty of other low-cost teams won tonight that were fair bets. K.C., Boston, Detroit, all those teams were under 130. I just happend to like Pitt and Philly and I lost, but had you bet the favorites there you would have won. Remember, I never said dont bet favorites, I said dont bet favorites over 130.
No biggie. Losing happens. Losing on Dogs happens all the time. But so does losing on favorites. Happens all the time. Losing on 4 dogs tonight hurts and hurts bad, but it doesn't blow me out. If you had the Jays and 3 other losers you got blown out. The Yankees should have lost at -200 as well. And Tampa BARELY got by the horrible Nats at -250. Thats baseball. But plenty of other low-cost teams won tonight that were fair bets. K.C., Boston, Detroit, all those teams were under 130. I just happend to like Pitt and Philly and I lost, but had you bet the favorites there you would have won. Remember, I never said dont bet favorites, I said dont bet favorites over 130.
I agree that long-term betting on faves is the most classic form of "bookie bank." But the point is, no one is arguing this. They are simply saying that it's about value, and not about picking "every favorite," as you have said to do to prove your point many times. If a favorite has more value, I'm all about taking the favorite. It's not a long-term betting strategy, it's about independent events and probabilities in certain situations.
I agree that long-term betting on faves is the most classic form of "bookie bank." But the point is, no one is arguing this. They are simply saying that it's about value, and not about picking "every favorite," as you have said to do to prove your point many times. If a favorite has more value, I'm all about taking the favorite. It's not a long-term betting strategy, it's about independent events and probabilities in certain situations.
The man has a point here ... I mean if you want the perfect example of his arguement look what happened.
The man has a point here ... I mean if you want the perfect example of his arguement look what happened.
It all depends on the season you are looking at. I use the books at
the Coast system here in Vegas. They changed over to Sams Town/Stardust managers I think in 2008. Before then the Coast rating service showed a profit on home Fav's of -150 each year before '06.
I have found that depending on the situation the fav's will show a profit when chosen rightly. Here in Vegas there are many that know what they are doing like the tourists. I was just talking to the head of the Palms book and only tourists play teh 20cent lines at places like Bally's system or Mirage. The people who know do play favs
at places like Coast and Hilton and Palms.
One stat told me by a long time stat keeper was that in 2004 the
-300 or more favs went 0-4. I sugest you get from the "Gamblers Book" store here in Vegas a data base listing of the last 10 years
of AL & NL stats. The last copy I bought was in DB and I converted to my favorite spread sheet to sort out.
One inside tip I can give if you watch the right opening line and price above -200 loses whereas some prices at -199 won in previous years. Go figure?
It all depends on the season you are looking at. I use the books at
the Coast system here in Vegas. They changed over to Sams Town/Stardust managers I think in 2008. Before then the Coast rating service showed a profit on home Fav's of -150 each year before '06.
I have found that depending on the situation the fav's will show a profit when chosen rightly. Here in Vegas there are many that know what they are doing like the tourists. I was just talking to the head of the Palms book and only tourists play teh 20cent lines at places like Bally's system or Mirage. The people who know do play favs
at places like Coast and Hilton and Palms.
One stat told me by a long time stat keeper was that in 2004 the
-300 or more favs went 0-4. I sugest you get from the "Gamblers Book" store here in Vegas a data base listing of the last 10 years
of AL & NL stats. The last copy I bought was in DB and I converted to my favorite spread sheet to sort out.
One inside tip I can give if you watch the right opening line and price above -200 loses whereas some prices at -199 won in previous years. Go figure?
How can you be a bad 'sportsbook pro' ![]()
The definition of a professional is someone who makes a living at what they do. If someone is able to pay the bills off of sportsbetting, how can they be bad?
Anyway... I agree with the OP.. wagering on -135 or greater in baseball is a losing proposition. Say what you want about picking spots and laying juice, but the 'pros' most likey stay far away from those.
How can you be a bad sportsbook pro???? LMAO..... come to vegas pal... I will introduce you to many.... how can you be a bad pro baseball, basketball, hockey player?? simple, you make it, you got your shot, you do it full time as a primary source of income, and you fail and do something else, the only diff is they always come back..... honestly, no offense primarily intended, but I don't know you but can assure you the following advise would benefit you greatly... "speak as little as possible each, and everyday and less people will realize your lack of intellectual capacity"
How can you be a bad 'sportsbook pro' ![]()
The definition of a professional is someone who makes a living at what they do. If someone is able to pay the bills off of sportsbetting, how can they be bad?
Anyway... I agree with the OP.. wagering on -135 or greater in baseball is a losing proposition. Say what you want about picking spots and laying juice, but the 'pros' most likey stay far away from those.
How can you be a bad sportsbook pro???? LMAO..... come to vegas pal... I will introduce you to many.... how can you be a bad pro baseball, basketball, hockey player?? simple, you make it, you got your shot, you do it full time as a primary source of income, and you fail and do something else, the only diff is they always come back..... honestly, no offense primarily intended, but I don't know you but can assure you the following advise would benefit you greatly... "speak as little as possible each, and everyday and less people will realize your lack of intellectual capacity"
i love guys like this who write up posts and PREACH how it goes in gambling.
I would then assume by how confident and how straight forward your saying your thoughts are, you must be winning all sorts of cash per year, correct? I mean in the hundreds of thousands a year in sportsbetting?
IF NOT, STFU!!!!!!
sportsbetting is about showing profit, if you can bet a game at -180 and it hits because there was a VERY high chance of it hitting, it is a much better pick than betting on some dog at +180 and hope you win a few of those per week.
freakin ignorant people in this world, my god, no wonder why gambling is known "for the term degeneracy"
everybody thinks they are the experts.
show me your bottom line profits per month or like i said : STFU
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Why would I waste my time showing some deadbeat my profits from baseball? For what reason? There are only two sports I bet. Baseball and Tennis. You know why? Because those are the onluy two sports that you can win at year after year if you know what you are doing. Far too many variables in other sports especially football with weather. This post was not meant to start an argument because there is no aruguing over FACTS. Numbers don't lie. And for you are anyone to suggest that "a team laying 170 is much more likely to win" is out and out retarded. Then you have a low I.Q. sir and know nothing about probable statistics. You want me to show you my bankroll and baseball betting profits for the last 7 years? I haven't had a losing season in baseball EVER. I've been betting it since 2002 and have never lost, not even one season. I will show you my personal records if you do something for me. Take a statistics course at an accredited University and show me that you passed the course. Once you have done that two things will happen: One, I will show you all my personal records by Fax. Two, you will never sound like and ignorant and completely uneducated buffoon on here again. You will finally know what any remotely successfull baseball bettor knows - that you never EVER lay 130 or more in baseball. Unless you are halfway retarded of course, in that case we'll give you a pass. Now go get your fuckin shine box, dummy.
My man, you are someone who obviously is miserable in many ways.... wow, I know you!! you are the guy that sits on his horn screaming in your car in a fit of road rage... lol... you make me thank God I took a different path in life...thanks
i love guys like this who write up posts and PREACH how it goes in gambling.
I would then assume by how confident and how straight forward your saying your thoughts are, you must be winning all sorts of cash per year, correct? I mean in the hundreds of thousands a year in sportsbetting?
IF NOT, STFU!!!!!!
sportsbetting is about showing profit, if you can bet a game at -180 and it hits because there was a VERY high chance of it hitting, it is a much better pick than betting on some dog at +180 and hope you win a few of those per week.
freakin ignorant people in this world, my god, no wonder why gambling is known "for the term degeneracy"
everybody thinks they are the experts.
show me your bottom line profits per month or like i said : STFU
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Why would I waste my time showing some deadbeat my profits from baseball? For what reason? There are only two sports I bet. Baseball and Tennis. You know why? Because those are the onluy two sports that you can win at year after year if you know what you are doing. Far too many variables in other sports especially football with weather. This post was not meant to start an argument because there is no aruguing over FACTS. Numbers don't lie. And for you are anyone to suggest that "a team laying 170 is much more likely to win" is out and out retarded. Then you have a low I.Q. sir and know nothing about probable statistics. You want me to show you my bankroll and baseball betting profits for the last 7 years? I haven't had a losing season in baseball EVER. I've been betting it since 2002 and have never lost, not even one season. I will show you my personal records if you do something for me. Take a statistics course at an accredited University and show me that you passed the course. Once you have done that two things will happen: One, I will show you all my personal records by Fax. Two, you will never sound like and ignorant and completely uneducated buffoon on here again. You will finally know what any remotely successfull baseball bettor knows - that you never EVER lay 130 or more in baseball. Unless you are halfway retarded of course, in that case we'll give you a pass. Now go get your fuckin shine box, dummy.
My man, you are someone who obviously is miserable in many ways.... wow, I know you!! you are the guy that sits on his horn screaming in your car in a fit of road rage... lol... you make me thank God I took a different path in life...thanks
You must be one of those self-proclaimed "expert" cappers huh? Charging for your picks? Watch Hondo from the NY Post every day. He will only bet underdogs. He is 100% free picks every day one or two games. He will beat your picks every day that you charge for, guaranteed. Even better, visit runthebases.com that is a 100 % FREE daily MLB pick site. They win every year. They will kick your ass in picking baseball guaranteed and once again, 100% free site and they never lay wood. They don't lay wood along with a few other cappers that I respect because laying wood is losing proposition over the long term. Those are hard facts, over 47 years of statistics have showed it year after year after year. So go bet those favorites and go on your "18-2 runs" with them. Just check back here when your streak goes cold and you are losing $150 a night while we are losing $100 a night and lets see who comes out on top at the end of the year when both of our records are at 53%.
Not a "self proclaimed" anything bro... but I make money/living in a sportsbook, and would love to invite you to come to Vegas and meet my associates so you can share your insight... I can assure you that you will be telling your theories to those making high six figures that will not agree with you in the slightest, and if my guess is correct you are at best some middle management flunkie that is no where near where you hoped to be, hence the need to proclaim your ideas somewhere where someone will actually listen to you.... honestly I just dont have the time to argue this point any longer, and I have giving your ignorant opinon way too much attention already...... better luck in the rest of your life pal.
You must be one of those self-proclaimed "expert" cappers huh? Charging for your picks? Watch Hondo from the NY Post every day. He will only bet underdogs. He is 100% free picks every day one or two games. He will beat your picks every day that you charge for, guaranteed. Even better, visit runthebases.com that is a 100 % FREE daily MLB pick site. They win every year. They will kick your ass in picking baseball guaranteed and once again, 100% free site and they never lay wood. They don't lay wood along with a few other cappers that I respect because laying wood is losing proposition over the long term. Those are hard facts, over 47 years of statistics have showed it year after year after year. So go bet those favorites and go on your "18-2 runs" with them. Just check back here when your streak goes cold and you are losing $150 a night while we are losing $100 a night and lets see who comes out on top at the end of the year when both of our records are at 53%.
Not a "self proclaimed" anything bro... but I make money/living in a sportsbook, and would love to invite you to come to Vegas and meet my associates so you can share your insight... I can assure you that you will be telling your theories to those making high six figures that will not agree with you in the slightest, and if my guess is correct you are at best some middle management flunkie that is no where near where you hoped to be, hence the need to proclaim your ideas somewhere where someone will actually listen to you.... honestly I just dont have the time to argue this point any longer, and I have giving your ignorant opinon way too much attention already...... better luck in the rest of your life pal.
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