laying more than 130 in baseball is financial suicide

Use your heads guys. Take a statistics course at your local University. Laying more than 130, even 120 over the long term will prove to blow you out. Even if you are picking at a 55% clip which of course most of you are not, you will still lose. Think about it. I don't care if you win 15 favorites in a row you will eventually lose and possibly lose big if you are routinely laying wood.

we need more people like u to speak the truth

Its a fact not speculation. It amazines me how it goes over people heads, especially the "professional" handicappers. Whenever I see a handicapper laying 150, 170, etc in baseball I know he is a joke. You can't win that way. Impossible. Do these guys really not know that themselves? These dudes that claim to be in the industry 25 years and such, they haven't figured out from their depleted bank accounts that laying wood is a path to doom? Incredible.

Its not about the odds, its about picking the right games.  For instance Carpenter at home to SF the other day was -163.  That was definately worth a pick, they will win that 2/3 times.  But then the next night it was Wainwright with the same amount of juice, that, which unfortunately I also bet on, was not worth it.  Just because juice is 120+ doesnt mean it can't be a good pick.  You just have to be selective.

It's not that there aren't winners that are -120 and higher lays; but in those potential plays, risk and reward is whacked and really exposes bankroll should you take a position....should always look for the value plays...just my take..GL 

DV

I like to lay.

Like I said, the new sports bettor or the weekend gambler is one thing, but the "professional" cappers that lay wood cannot be taken seriously. Sorry. If I see them do it even one time I know the guy can't be real at least not in baseball. Some sports like Tennis you have to lay wood, routinely 150 and sometime even to 200 depending on the situation. But that is totally differend as there are less variables. Its just ttwo guys you have to cap. Not starting pictehrs, righty vs lefty matchups, managers, bullpens, closers, umpires, etc. To lay more then 130 in baseball is just plain retarded no matter the situation. Over the long term its a loser even if you are at 55% and again, most bettors/cappers have a tough time getting to 55%. If you are at 55% you are a good GOOD capper. But guess what? You'll only make money of you are laying less than 130. Really its less than 120.....

I like girls that like to lay.

laying juice is not good, but sometimes situations and or line movements call for it ..  

One time, at Stat Camp...

nothing I repeat NOTHING calls for laying over 130 in baseball on any team, any pitcher,any day, in any situation. Discipline besides hard statistical analysis of the obvious is what separates winners from losers in baseball betting. You need to stay disciplined and never lay over 130. Ever. Its dumb. Especially in the days of today where there are no bullpens. You could make a perfect call on a pitcher laying 145 and he pitches 8 shutout innings just like you and your money expected, only to have some bumm middle reliever come in walk two batters then give up a HR and you lose. You were right to bet that starter but wrong to lay any wood becuase you forgot that there are too many variables in baseball mainly horrible bullpens.

Nothing wrong with laying juice.  Yes it hurts when your -170 loses and you lose 1000 that would have only won 650 and the other way would have given you 1500 on top of your 1000.  Still, thats why they are the underdog, they are not supposed to win and if everything worked out perfectly they would.  It takes miracle breaks, quarters of inches when a ball hits a bat, and release points off by a fraction of a second by pitchers that give these underdogs victories.  You have to take each game separtley and understand that you do not need to make a bet everynight in order to win.  Sometimes when you feel the breaks piling up against you take some time off or really limit your bets and dont chase because it makes it worse.  Yankees cost me 3000 plus 4000 of winnings I would have had on them alone and a parlay I had them in.  As the game was winding down I was waiting for the collapse becasue I could feel something eery about winning too much today.  You are never allowed to win every bet in a day once you go over 2 bets.  Its an unwritten gambling god rule.

I was going over the past few weeks and most days if you took all the dogs you would win even if your 6-8.  This might be my new strategy

Baseball is retarded in the sense that any chump can bet on 6 underdogs everyday for a month and end up with plus money.

 

Only in baseball can this be done.

Baseball betting is simple. Look for all games where there is a favorite of more than 130. Now take a black marker and cross them off your board. Now start breaking down all the remaining games/teams and try to find some winners. If you are 52% on even money games you are winning. If you are 52% on underdogs you are winning more money. If you are 53, 54, 55% now you are really winning some serious cash. Bottom line? Cross every 135+ favorite off your board and analyze the games for a possible underdog in those games as well as all other games and hope you are in the 51-55% range on your picks.

Mike_NYC - I'm talking about dogs only.

 

Not against the consensus numbers. But i know it just so happens that most dogs aren't the most popular picks.