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    how is heath bell still in the majors??

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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 3:52 PM ET #1

    this guy is absolutely awful... between his horrid relief appearances and his goofy looking photo, i have no clue how he hasn't been sent down... if he is still on the roster after today, I will be amazed..... and back to that photo, way to disrespect the league and the game in general by choosing to make a stupid fucking face when the team asks to take a photo... anyone out there who knows heath personally, or knows his family, tell them to tell him to stop being such a fucking idiot, and to take his privilege of a job more seriously... makes me sick
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    this guy is absolutely awful... between his horrid relief appearances and his goofy looking photo, i have no clue how he hasn't been sent down... if he is still on the roster after today, I will be amazed..... and back to that photo, way to disrespect the league and the game in general by choosing to make a stupid fucking face when the team asks to take a photo... anyone out there who knows heath personally, or knows his family, tell them to tell him to stop being such a fucking idiot, and to take his privilege of a job more seriously... makes me sick
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 3:55 PM ET #2

    wow this guy suck a big doodle, everytime he up for closer, he gave up at least 2 runs, sad... lose me alot of money, he needs to go to minor league.  apprently he can't hang with the big boys.  Marlin needs to cut him unless they want more L
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    wow this guy suck a big doodle, everytime he up for closer, he gave up at least 2 runs, sad... lose me alot of money, he needs to go to minor league.  apprently he can't hang with the big boys.  Marlin needs to cut him unless they want more L
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 3:58 PM ET #3

    He's been this bad ever since the he shit his pants during a Padres game last September. I think it might be colitis.
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    He's been this bad ever since the he shit his pants during a Padres game last September. I think it might be colitis.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 4:08 PM ET #4

    Guy had 132 saves from 2009-2011 so I wouldn't say he shouldn't be in the majors.

    That said, he doesn't have the luxury of pitching in such a big pitcher's ballpark like Petco anymore.
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    Guy had 132 saves from 2009-2011 so I wouldn't say he shouldn't be in the majors.

    That said, he doesn't have the luxury of pitching in such a big pitcher's ballpark like Petco anymore.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 4:12 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:

    Guy had 132 saves from 2009-2011 so I wouldn't say he shouldn't be in the majors.

    That said, he doesn't have the luxury of pitching in such a big pitcher's ballpark like Petco anymore.


    lol yeah that's why he did so well... anyone can pitch well at 9:30 at night in san diego on a consistent basis
    even if he USED to be good, he isn't now, and should be sent down to get his shit together... I think Ozzie might agreee
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:

    Guy had 132 saves from 2009-2011 so I wouldn't say he shouldn't be in the majors.

    That said, he doesn't have the luxury of pitching in such a big pitcher's ballpark like Petco anymore.


    lol yeah that's why he did so well... anyone can pitch well at 9:30 at night in san diego on a consistent basis
    even if he USED to be good, he isn't now, and should be sent down to get his shit together... I think Ozzie might agreee
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 4:16 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:

    Guy had 132 saves from 2009-2011 so I wouldn't say he shouldn't be in the majors.

    That said, he doesn't have the luxury of pitching in such a big pitcher's ballpark like Petco anymore.

    What does a big pitchers park have to do with a pitcher that can't even throw a strike right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble5672:

    Guy had 132 saves from 2009-2011 so I wouldn't say he shouldn't be in the majors.

    That said, he doesn't have the luxury of pitching in such a big pitcher's ballpark like Petco anymore.

    What does a big pitchers park have to do with a pitcher that can't even throw a strike right now?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 4:20 PM ET #7

    not to go agreeing with ozzie's opinions, but there are A LOT of people that feel the same way he does about castro. it's just that because ozzie is coaching in a city filled with cuban americans that were sent there by castro, that he is being ridiculed so much.. had he said the same thing while coaching in chicago, i bet there wouldn't be much of a fuss (no cubans in chicago)
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    not to go agreeing with ozzie's opinions, but there are A LOT of people that feel the same way he does about castro. it's just that because ozzie is coaching in a city filled with cuban americans that were sent there by castro, that he is being ridiculed so much.. had he said the same thing while coaching in chicago, i bet there wouldn't be much of a fuss (no cubans in chicago)
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 4:27 PM ET #8

    The whole team is underperforming.  Singling out Bell is ridiculous. 
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    The whole team is underperforming.  Singling out Bell is ridiculous. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 4:52 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTaGAME28:

    who's ozzie to agree or disagree with anything?? this dickhead went on national TV and said he respects fidel castro and the fact that he's been in power for so long.  how can you take anything this guy says, seriously?

    Not trying to argue, but this is what I gathered from the comments.

     Ozzie said he admired Castro's toughness. His invincibility and resiliency. The fact that he has been able to maintain, persevere, and survive with basically the entire world hating him and wanting him dead.

    He DID NOT say he admired Castro's policies, and how he ran his country or how he treated his people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTaGAME28:

    who's ozzie to agree or disagree with anything?? this dickhead went on national TV and said he respects fidel castro and the fact that he's been in power for so long.  how can you take anything this guy says, seriously?

    Not trying to argue, but this is what I gathered from the comments.

     Ozzie said he admired Castro's toughness. His invincibility and resiliency. The fact that he has been able to maintain, persevere, and survive with basically the entire world hating him and wanting him dead.

    He DID NOT say he admired Castro's policies, and how he ran his country or how he treated his people.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 5:00 PM ET #10

    thought this thread was about h bell...

    w-t-f
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    thought this thread was about h bell...

    w-t-f
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 5:26 PM ET #11

    He has been brutal but like most guys struggling it comes down to the money. If you make it you play. There's no chance in hell a 10 million dollar closer will even stiff the minors. Maybe a DL stint for a bogus injury but he's not going anywhere. 
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    He has been brutal but like most guys struggling it comes down to the money. If you make it you play. There's no chance in hell a 10 million dollar closer will even stiff the minors. Maybe a DL stint for a bogus injury but he's not going anywhere. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 5:37 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam24:

    He has been brutal but like most guys struggling it comes down to the money. If you make it you play. There's no chance in hell a 10 million dollar closer will even stiff the minors. Maybe a DL stint for a bogus injury but he's not going anywhere. 


    This. He cant be sent to the minors. The Marlins would have to ask his permission to be accept assignment to the minors.

    Bell would laugh in their face and probably take a shit on the owners desk then walk out. The Marlins would be subject to owing him everything on his contract if they cut him and another team could scoop him up and pay him league minimum while the Marlins paid the rest of his contract.

    So yes drop a guy who has been an elite lever closer so another team can pick him up while you pay his salary. Makes perfect business sense.

    He has not had control at all this year. His stuff also seems to be down a tick from years past and I believe I read something that he lost 20 lbs or so. It could be a timing/mechanical thing. Bottom line is he is struggling but there is 0 chance he gets sent to the minors or released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam24:

    He has been brutal but like most guys struggling it comes down to the money. If you make it you play. There's no chance in hell a 10 million dollar closer will even stiff the minors. Maybe a DL stint for a bogus injury but he's not going anywhere. 


    This. He cant be sent to the minors. The Marlins would have to ask his permission to be accept assignment to the minors.

    Bell would laugh in their face and probably take a shit on the owners desk then walk out. The Marlins would be subject to owing him everything on his contract if they cut him and another team could scoop him up and pay him league minimum while the Marlins paid the rest of his contract.

    So yes drop a guy who has been an elite lever closer so another team can pick him up while you pay his salary. Makes perfect business sense.

    He has not had control at all this year. His stuff also seems to be down a tick from years past and I believe I read something that he lost 20 lbs or so. It could be a timing/mechanical thing. Bottom line is he is struggling but there is 0 chance he gets sent to the minors or released.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 6:03 PM ET #13

    Heath Bell Sucked when he was good
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    Heath Bell Sucked when he was good
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 6:07 PM ET #14

    I'll give you 3 years and $27 million reasons he still has a job.  
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    I'll give you 3 years and $27 million reasons he still has a job.  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 6:29 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam24:

    He has been brutal but like most guys struggling it comes down to the money. If you make it you play. There's no chance in hell a 10 million dollar closer will even stiff the minors. Maybe a DL stint for a bogus injury but he's not going anywhere. 


    manny, nice to see ya bro! funny enough, i was watching a jays game last year, and the commentator started going on about one of the opposing players, who i forget the name of, but was a bona fide major leaguer and actually volunteered to go down to the minors to get things right... might not have been a 10 million dollar a year player.. but hey anyone remember bj ryan?? he was so bad after he came back from his surgery the jays RELEASED HIM! haha didn't even send him down to try and fix things, and i still believe they are paying him to this day
    and as for heath bell, pitching elsewhere than petco, he is a totally different pitcher... every pitcher in the league loves pitching there...

    who you liking by the way tonight manny? leaning phils and rays over here... maybe halos, but man do they ever suck at hitting
    maybe they should send pujols down
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam24:

    He has been brutal but like most guys struggling it comes down to the money. If you make it you play. There's no chance in hell a 10 million dollar closer will even stiff the minors. Maybe a DL stint for a bogus injury but he's not going anywhere. 


    manny, nice to see ya bro! funny enough, i was watching a jays game last year, and the commentator started going on about one of the opposing players, who i forget the name of, but was a bona fide major leaguer and actually volunteered to go down to the minors to get things right... might not have been a 10 million dollar a year player.. but hey anyone remember bj ryan?? he was so bad after he came back from his surgery the jays RELEASED HIM! haha didn't even send him down to try and fix things, and i still believe they are paying him to this day
    and as for heath bell, pitching elsewhere than petco, he is a totally different pitcher... every pitcher in the league loves pitching there...

    who you liking by the way tonight manny? leaning phils and rays over here... maybe halos, but man do they ever suck at hitting
    maybe they should send pujols down
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 6:35 PM ET #16

    i used to live in both LA AND SD,

    i laughed so hard when lackey got signed and laughed just as hard when bell got signed...

    epstein stinks and this marlins GM stinks too.

    let me tell you, it takes a great mind to actually watch a player and figure out if hes good or not.
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    i used to live in both LA AND SD,

    i laughed so hard when lackey got signed and laughed just as hard when bell got signed...

    epstein stinks and this marlins GM stinks too.

    let me tell you, it takes a great mind to actually watch a player and figure out if hes good or not.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 6:41 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:



    This. He cant be sent to the minors. The Marlins would have to ask his permission to be accept assignment to the minors.

    Bell would laugh in their face and probably take a shit on the owners desk then walk out. The Marlins would be subject to owing him everything on his contract if they cut him and another team could scoop him up and pay him league minimum while the Marlins paid the rest of his contract.

    So yes drop a guy who has been an elite lever closer so another team can pick him up while you pay his salary. Makes perfect business sense.

    He has not had control at all this year. His stuff also seems to be down a tick from years past and I believe I read something that he lost 20 lbs or so. It could be a timing/mechanical thing. Bottom line is he is struggling but there is 0 chance he gets sent to the minors or released.


    how bout ur orioles .... i know its early , but the telling tale is that they are 5-1 against the blow jays.  for years, they would go 5-14 against them, now theyve turned the tables... that could be a 10 game improvement right there.  gotta give prop to buck sho.  everywhere hes been he makes the teams respectable and in 2 cases they win the world series the following year that he leaves but the fact that he turned this disastrous organization around is pretty impressive
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    This. He cant be sent to the minors. The Marlins would have to ask his permission to be accept assignment to the minors.

    Bell would laugh in their face and probably take a shit on the owners desk then walk out. The Marlins would be subject to owing him everything on his contract if they cut him and another team could scoop him up and pay him league minimum while the Marlins paid the rest of his contract.

    So yes drop a guy who has been an elite lever closer so another team can pick him up while you pay his salary. Makes perfect business sense.

    He has not had control at all this year. His stuff also seems to be down a tick from years past and I believe I read something that he lost 20 lbs or so. It could be a timing/mechanical thing. Bottom line is he is struggling but there is 0 chance he gets sent to the minors or released.


    how bout ur orioles .... i know its early , but the telling tale is that they are 5-1 against the blow jays.  for years, they would go 5-14 against them, now theyve turned the tables... that could be a 10 game improvement right there.  gotta give prop to buck sho.  everywhere hes been he makes the teams respectable and in 2 cases they win the world series the following year that he leaves but the fact that he turned this disastrous organization around is pretty impressive
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 6:43 PM ET #18

    bell is trash

    walks in the game tying run the other day, good bye marlins ml

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    bell is trash

    walks in the game tying run the other day, good bye marlins ml

     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 6:43 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by mainmanmainman2:

    i used to live in both LA AND SD,

    i laughed so hard when lackey got signed and laughed just as hard when bell got signed...

    epstein stinks and this marlins GM stinks too.

    let me tell you, it takes a great mind to actually watch a player and figure out if hes good or not.



    lol ya how big of a joke was lackey at fenway... doubles a plenty... mainman you know it... number one rule for mlb gm's: Don't give huge stupid contracts to pitchers who put up 'great numbers' on the west coast...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mainmanmainman2:

    i used to live in both LA AND SD,

    i laughed so hard when lackey got signed and laughed just as hard when bell got signed...

    epstein stinks and this marlins GM stinks too.

    let me tell you, it takes a great mind to actually watch a player and figure out if hes good or not.



    lol ya how big of a joke was lackey at fenway... doubles a plenty... mainman you know it... number one rule for mlb gm's: Don't give huge stupid contracts to pitchers who put up 'great numbers' on the west coast...

     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2012 - 7:01 PM ET #20

    Im still around and post. Just stay out of the main forums. Today just happend to be scrolling while at work being bored. My fantasy leagues threads in the fantasy forum .
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    Im still around and post. Just stay out of the main forums. Today just happend to be scrolling while at work being bored. My fantasy leagues threads in the fantasy forum .
     
     
    mainmanmainman2
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    dude got so lucky today
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    dude got so lucky today
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