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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 2:54 PM ET #26

    Just locked in Twins - 105 for 5 units . Now that's what I'm talking about as predicted. 5 units on it. Jays creeping back . A's & Mets very close now ..
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    Just locked in Twins - 105 for 5 units . Now that's what I'm talking about as predicted. 5 units on it. Jays creeping back . A's & Mets very close now ..
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 2:56 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by PlayWithThem:

    Barney, why do you wait for a square bump? I don't think this is a requirement of the system. As long as there is a sharp takeback after the initial line, that's all that is needed. 
     I have been using this for SOME of my MLB plays since 2nd half 2015, 2 years ago but playing it a bit differently - I don't want to throw anyone off capper1515's variation of the system but my reasoning is that with the sqaure bump I am now sure that we don't have a sqaures and sharps all on the same side which appears to maybe be what happenend with TB last night. There was no bump, no support for HOU, just a steady move in one direction. HOU skidding as of late, 2 key players out, McHugh getting crap run support (again). Yes the play hit. But it was not a play for me.

    Were squares on TB? Or just layed off the game (not taking HOU) with other good, big games out there for the taking like BOS, LAD, NYY, COL or CHC/ARI...

    Lastly HOU is more or less a public favorite so I expected to see a little late HOU money last night - however on games between two non public cellar dwellars I don't look for the square bump because it's not going to happen unless it's the only game on at that time.
    The pen is mightier than the pigs
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayWithThem:

    Barney, why do you wait for a square bump? I don't think this is a requirement of the system. As long as there is a sharp takeback after the initial line, that's all that is needed. 
     I have been using this for SOME of my MLB plays since 2nd half 2015, 2 years ago but playing it a bit differently - I don't want to throw anyone off capper1515's variation of the system but my reasoning is that with the sqaure bump I am now sure that we don't have a sqaures and sharps all on the same side which appears to maybe be what happenend with TB last night. There was no bump, no support for HOU, just a steady move in one direction. HOU skidding as of late, 2 key players out, McHugh getting crap run support (again). Yes the play hit. But it was not a play for me.

    Were squares on TB? Or just layed off the game (not taking HOU) with other good, big games out there for the taking like BOS, LAD, NYY, COL or CHC/ARI...

    Lastly HOU is more or less a public favorite so I expected to see a little late HOU money last night - however on games between two non public cellar dwellars I don't look for the square bump because it's not going to happen unless it's the only game on at that time.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:05 PM ET #28

    So I'm starting to understand the concept of the system. How do we know how much the line has to move in order to play? Thanks guys for the insight!
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    So I'm starting to understand the concept of the system. How do we know how much the line has to move in order to play? Thanks guys for the insight!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:08 PM ET #29

    BOL 
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    BOL 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:17 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:

    And Key is 1313, father of 1414 but thought it was unlucky to have 13 twice so changed his name to KeyElement.
    1414 is once again available as that kid aggravated me so much I first disowned him, but when that failed I gave in to the inevitable and just shot him. If you wait for a monsoon the remains get a little pungent, but then you just toss them in a flood control channel and they whoosh their way to the Gulf of California in no time at all. 
    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:

    And Key is 1313, father of 1414 but thought it was unlucky to have 13 twice so changed his name to KeyElement.
    1414 is once again available as that kid aggravated me so much I first disowned him, but when that failed I gave in to the inevitable and just shot him. If you wait for a monsoon the remains get a little pungent, but then you just toss them in a flood control channel and they whoosh their way to the Gulf of California in no time at all. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:17 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by NickTT:

    So I'm starting to understand the concept of the system. How do we know how much the line has to move in order to play? Thanks guys for the insight!

    10-15 dollars lower than opening line is a good rule of thumb. Otherwise check the first post for the highest allowable closing number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickTT:

    So I'm starting to understand the concept of the system. How do we know how much the line has to move in order to play? Thanks guys for the insight!

    10-15 dollars lower than opening line is a good rule of thumb. Otherwise check the first post for the highest allowable closing number.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:24 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by ProudJagsfan:


    10-15 dollars lower than opening line is a good rule of thumb. Otherwise check the first post for the highest allowable closing number.

    I don't think "otherwise" is the word. You mean that one must always make sure the highest allowable closing number is not exceeded, correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProudJagsfan:


    10-15 dollars lower than opening line is a good rule of thumb. Otherwise check the first post for the highest allowable closing number.

    I don't think "otherwise" is the word. You mean that one must always make sure the highest allowable closing number is not exceeded, correct?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:26 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by ProudJagsfan:

    Quote Originally Posted by NickTT:

    So I'm starting to understand the concept of the system. How do we know how much the line has to move in order to play? Thanks guys for the insight!
    10-15 dollars lower than opening line is a good rule of thumb. Otherwise check the first post for the highest allowable closing number.

    OK thanks. Just trying to fully understand the concept aand how to calculate the closing lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProudJagsfan:

    Quote Originally Posted by NickTT:

    So I'm starting to understand the concept of the system. How do we know how much the line has to move in order to play? Thanks guys for the insight!
    10-15 dollars lower than opening line is a good rule of thumb. Otherwise check the first post for the highest allowable closing number.

    OK thanks. Just trying to fully understand the concept aand how to calculate the closing lines.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:28 PM ET #34

    Sorry, thanks for the correction. 10-15 dollars lower than the highest allowable closing line. That's the rule of thumb of when to go ahead and play because that's when the line is surely not going to move back up. This is why I am saying lock in when you're comfortable. If you're super anxious about the line moving the other way even after it drops 10-15 dollars, then just wait until game time to check one last time. If the line has not dropped so much--10-15 dollars below highest allowable closing number-- (this is the "otherwise") then make sure right before game time that the line is below the posted highest allowable number.
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    Sorry, thanks for the correction. 10-15 dollars lower than the highest allowable closing line. That's the rule of thumb of when to go ahead and play because that's when the line is surely not going to move back up. This is why I am saying lock in when you're comfortable. If you're super anxious about the line moving the other way even after it drops 10-15 dollars, then just wait until game time to check one last time. If the line has not dropped so much--10-15 dollars below highest allowable closing number-- (this is the "otherwise") then make sure right before game time that the line is below the posted highest allowable number.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:40 PM ET #35

    Because even the leans are profitable you can also do what barney does
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    Because even the leans are profitable you can also do what barney does
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:41 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    1414 is once again available as that kid aggravated me so much I first disowned him, but when that failed I gave in to the inevitable and just shot him. If you wait for a monsoon the remains get a little pungent, but then you just toss them in a flood control channel and they whoosh their way to the Gulf of California in no time at all. 
    remind me not to meet you in a dark alley 
    The pen is mightier than the pigs
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    1414 is once again available as that kid aggravated me so much I first disowned him, but when that failed I gave in to the inevitable and just shot him. If you wait for a monsoon the remains get a little pungent, but then you just toss them in a flood control channel and they whoosh their way to the Gulf of California in no time at all. 
    remind me not to meet you in a dark alley 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:55 PM ET #37

    Ok maybe i'm stupid but that Minny line hasn't done anything.. Still -105
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    Ok maybe i'm stupid but that Minny line hasn't done anything.. Still -105
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 3:58 PM ET #38

    1515 says: Feel free to lock in Twins
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    1515 says: Feel free to lock in Twins
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 4:10 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by ProudJagsfan:

    1515 says: Feel free to lock in Twins
    THAT LOOKS LIKE AN OFFICIAL PLAY TO ME !!! but I am already locked in from this AM. Got 2 units and won't be looking for a square bump, as this is a trash game tonight. The public will be more interestefd in playing these games: PIT, CHC, LAD, BAL, BOS, NYY, HOU and maybe KC and MIL. Only homers will be taking either MIN or TEX tonight.


    Notable Lines:

    Mets +111 (must close at +110 or lower) 
    Jays +174 (must close +140 or lower) 
    Twins +102 (OFFICIAL PLAY -$105)
    A's +115 (must close at +114 or lower) 

    The pen is mightier than the pigs
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProudJagsfan:

    1515 says: Feel free to lock in Twins
    THAT LOOKS LIKE AN OFFICIAL PLAY TO ME !!! but I am already locked in from this AM. Got 2 units and won't be looking for a square bump, as this is a trash game tonight. The public will be more interestefd in playing these games: PIT, CHC, LAD, BAL, BOS, NYY, HOU and maybe KC and MIL. Only homers will be taking either MIN or TEX tonight.


    Notable Lines:

    Mets +111 (must close at +110 or lower) 
    Jays +174 (must close +140 or lower) 
    Twins +102 (OFFICIAL PLAY -$105)
    A's +115 (must close at +114 or lower) 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 4:17 PM ET #40

    Yes, feel free to lock in Twins.

    I will try to be around game-time to confirm everything. I can give my cell number but you can also send me a PM which would pop up in my e-mail just in case.
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    Yes, feel free to lock in Twins.

    I will try to be around game-time to confirm everything. I can give my cell number but you can also send me a PM which would pop up in my e-mail just in case.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 4:23 PM ET #41

    Thanks for your help Jag
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    Thanks for your help Jag
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 4:27 PM ET #42

    Thanks barneybeans for helping with transparency. Communication skills probably aren't my greatest asset, as I am just a book nerd collecting masters degrees. So I appreciate help in that regard.
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    Thanks barneybeans for helping with transparency. Communication skills probably aren't my greatest asset, as I am just a book nerd collecting masters degrees. So I appreciate help in that regard.
     
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    Jagsfan, 1515 said it starts out with comparing the opening line to what the line should be or basically a projected line.  Do you know what site he uses or what do you use for projected lines?
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    Jagsfan, 1515 said it starts out with comparing the opening line to what the line should be or basically a projected line.  Do you know what site he uses or what do you use for projected lines?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 5:11 PM ET #44

    " We're using the win probabilities 538 has calculated for us to calculate our ROI's with.  For a team to be added to the "notable lines" they MUST be a team with under a 50% win probability deemed by 538 and have an ROI of at least -7%."
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    " We're using the win probabilities 538 has calculated for us to calculate our ROI's with.  For a team to be added to the "notable lines" they MUST be a team with under a 50% win probability deemed by 538 and have an ROI of at least -7%."
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 5:13 PM ET #45

    Gotcha, thanks man
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    Gotcha, thanks man
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 5:23 PM ET #46

    Excuse me fellas what's square and sharp mean?
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    Excuse me fellas what's square and sharp mean?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 5:28 PM ET #47

    Square = people who don't understand what a good number (like -110 or -130) is. Sharps do
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    Square = people who don't understand what a good number (like -110 or -130) is. Sharps do
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 5:38 PM ET #48

    So wouldn't the reds fall into this system as a play ??
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    So wouldn't the reds fall into this system as a play ??
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 6:09 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobbyko15:

    So wouldn't the reds fall into this system as a play ??


    Exactly what I was thinking. According to 538 and sportsinsights book opened at reds +118 and 538 had them at 45% chance to win giving a 18.4% roi. Now reds are at -117 with a -6.75 roi. What you think jagsfan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobbyko15:

    So wouldn't the reds fall into this system as a play ??


    Exactly what I was thinking. According to 538 and sportsinsights book opened at reds +118 and 538 had them at 45% chance to win giving a 18.4% roi. Now reds are at -117 with a -6.75 roi. What you think jagsfan
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 6:50 PM ET #50

    Got Mets at even money right now. Pull the trigger? 
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    Got Mets at even money right now. Pull the trigger? 
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