Anybody else like this line??? Got a full camp under his belt. Got his personal stuff taking care of. Fighting close to home. Stripe just coming off a five round war!!! If Hunt knocks him down he won't be afraid of going to the ground to finish him unlike Werdum. I don't think Stripe can take him down either, unless it's in the later rounds. What says you???
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Anybody else like this line??? Got a full camp under his belt. Got his personal stuff taking care of. Fighting close to home. Stripe just coming off a five round war!!! If Hunt knocks him down he won't be afraid of going to the ground to finish him unlike Werdum. I don't think Stripe can take him down either, unless it's in the later rounds. What says you???
I've already put some in on Stipe. Just think he can avoid the big one (he did with JDS and Roy). He really has shown a solid chin. The only real reason he lost to Struve was bc he gassed and was a sitting duck. I think Hunt will gas first, but lord knows Hunt has surprised me before.
I've already put some in on Stipe. Just think he can avoid the big one (he did with JDS and Roy). He really has shown a solid chin. The only real reason he lost to Struve was bc he gassed and was a sitting duck. I think Hunt will gas first, but lord knows Hunt has surprised me before.
I definitely favor Miocic here. However with Hunts power and a line like that, I ca t argue a play on Hunt. I think the odds are probably spot on for this one. BOL
I definitely favor Miocic here. However with Hunts power and a line like that, I ca t argue a play on Hunt. I think the odds are probably spot on for this one. BOL
I think Miocic is worth playing. The closest guy to Hunt that he's fought, stylistically, was Nelson and that was one of his most impressive performances. Totally cruised. Hunt has a couple more weapons than Roy but still, I'm thinking Miocic's chin, movement, reach and speed will be too much. And he's been doing a great job of seeing the punches coming and rolling with them.
I think Miocic is worth playing. The closest guy to Hunt that he's fought, stylistically, was Nelson and that was one of his most impressive performances. Totally cruised. Hunt has a couple more weapons than Roy but still, I'm thinking Miocic's chin, movement, reach and speed will be too much. And he's been doing a great job of seeing the punches coming and rolling with them.
Hey CTM, do you think the casual gambler is looking at the both fought JDS with different outcomes, without digging deeper??? Both fought Struve too with different outcomes as well, but I know Stripe has improved since then!!!
Hey CTM, do you think the casual gambler is looking at the both fought JDS with different outcomes, without digging deeper??? Both fought Struve too with different outcomes as well, but I know Stripe has improved since then!!!
I think Miocic is worth playing. The closest guy to Hunt that he's fought, stylistically, was Nelson and that was one of his most impressive performances. Totally cruised. Hunt has a couple more weapons than Roy but still, I'm thinking Miocic's chin, movement, reach and speed will be too much. And he's been doing a great job of seeing the punches coming and rolling with them.
hunt has ko power in both hands and nelson does not. much easier to avoid one hand than two.
nelsons left is simply a range finder and he really only has the overhand right.
hunts left hook, right uppercut and over hand right can all end the fight
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I think Miocic is worth playing. The closest guy to Hunt that he's fought, stylistically, was Nelson and that was one of his most impressive performances. Totally cruised. Hunt has a couple more weapons than Roy but still, I'm thinking Miocic's chin, movement, reach and speed will be too much. And he's been doing a great job of seeing the punches coming and rolling with them.
hunt has ko power in both hands and nelson does not. much easier to avoid one hand than two.
nelsons left is simply a range finder and he really only has the overhand right.
hunts left hook, right uppercut and over hand right can all end the fight
All great points, should be interesting how Stripe manages this fight. BTW I do like Stripe as a fighter, I think his ranking is correct and if either of these guys fight JDS again, I'll have no problem backing either guy. IMO JDS is damaged goods!!!
All great points, should be interesting how Stripe manages this fight. BTW I do like Stripe as a fighter, I think his ranking is correct and if either of these guys fight JDS again, I'll have no problem backing either guy. IMO JDS is damaged goods!!!
hunt has ko power in both hands and nelson does not. much easier to avoid one hand than two.
nelsons left is simply a range finder and he really only has the overhand right.
hunts left hook, right uppercut and over hand right can all end the fight
His walk-off KO's are pretty cool but he hasn't knocked someone out clean in years. I know it's a very unpopular opinion but I think Hunt's KO power is a bit overrated. I like Hunt as a fighter and like betting on him, I actually planned on betting him again until watching the tape, but I think Miocic has too many advantages. I think Miocic rd 3 TKO.
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hunt has ko power in both hands and nelson does not. much easier to avoid one hand than two.
nelsons left is simply a range finder and he really only has the overhand right.
hunts left hook, right uppercut and over hand right can all end the fight
His walk-off KO's are pretty cool but he hasn't knocked someone out clean in years. I know it's a very unpopular opinion but I think Hunt's KO power is a bit overrated. I like Hunt as a fighter and like betting on him, I actually planned on betting him again until watching the tape, but I think Miocic has too many advantages. I think Miocic rd 3 TKO.
Hey CTM, do you think the casual gambler is looking at the both fought JDS with different outcomes, without digging deeper??? Both fought Struve too with different outcomes as well, but I know Stripe has improved since then!!!
Regarding the Junior fights - I think Hunt got completely outclassed by what looked like a very sharp, prime JDS. Stipe had a real war with a slightly declined JDS and lost a tight decision. I think Miocic has more going for him, and almost a 10 year age difference here..
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Hey CTM, do you think the casual gambler is looking at the both fought JDS with different outcomes, without digging deeper??? Both fought Struve too with different outcomes as well, but I know Stripe has improved since then!!!
Regarding the Junior fights - I think Hunt got completely outclassed by what looked like a very sharp, prime JDS. Stipe had a real war with a slightly declined JDS and lost a tight decision. I think Miocic has more going for him, and almost a 10 year age difference here..
His walk-off KO's are pretty cool but he hasn't knocked someone out clean in years. I know it's a very unpopular opinion but I think Hunt's KO power is a bit overrated. I like Hunt as a fighter and like betting on him, I actually planned on betting him again until watching the tape, but I think Miocic has too many advantages. I think Miocic rd 3 TKO.
Nelson was less than a year ago. Struve was just over 2 years ago. Dropped Werdum at least twice in the first round too. I agree father time is creeping up on him.
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His walk-off KO's are pretty cool but he hasn't knocked someone out clean in years. I know it's a very unpopular opinion but I think Hunt's KO power is a bit overrated. I like Hunt as a fighter and like betting on him, I actually planned on betting him again until watching the tape, but I think Miocic has too many advantages. I think Miocic rd 3 TKO.
Nelson was less than a year ago. Struve was just over 2 years ago. Dropped Werdum at least twice in the first round too. I agree father time is creeping up on him.
The big issue is Cain has been out forever, Werdum is clearly the 2nd best now. JDS looks shot, Stripe has a outside shot at the belt. Hunt is at the moment the 5th best HW with a barely .500 record. Now maybe Duffee can jump into the mix soon and vault past a bunch of average HW!!!!!!!!
The big issue is Cain has been out forever, Werdum is clearly the 2nd best now. JDS looks shot, Stripe has a outside shot at the belt. Hunt is at the moment the 5th best HW with a barely .500 record. Now maybe Duffee can jump into the mix soon and vault past a bunch of average HW!!!!!!!!
His walk-off KO's are pretty cool but he hasn't knocked someone out clean in years. I know it's a very unpopular opinion but I think Hunt's KO power is a bit overrated. I like Hunt as a fighter and like betting on him, I actually planned on betting him again until watching the tape, but I think Miocic has too many advantages. I think Miocic rd 3 TKO.
i think the kos of both nelson(uppercut) and struve(left hook) were pretty decisive. i thought he got robbed against big foot as well when the ref for some unknown reason stepped in to save silva when it looked as if he was about to get kod.
i agree miocic has more tools because of his wrestling. in stand-up i actually favor hunt who i believe has the better chin and the better power.
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His walk-off KO's are pretty cool but he hasn't knocked someone out clean in years. I know it's a very unpopular opinion but I think Hunt's KO power is a bit overrated. I like Hunt as a fighter and like betting on him, I actually planned on betting him again until watching the tape, but I think Miocic has too many advantages. I think Miocic rd 3 TKO.
i think the kos of both nelson(uppercut) and struve(left hook) were pretty decisive. i thought he got robbed against big foot as well when the ref for some unknown reason stepped in to save silva when it looked as if he was about to get kod.
i agree miocic has more tools because of his wrestling. in stand-up i actually favor hunt who i believe has the better chin and the better power.
Lol yeah I'm not sure what I was thinking last night, Nelson and Struve were indeed decisive KO's. I guess I was just saying that considering Bigfoot and Struve's chins it's weird that he wasn't able to actually put either guy out. Struve was totally gassed and it was basically about whether or not Hunt could land one hard clean punch. And I'd agree that Hunt has more power than Miocic but I think Miocic has the better chin.
Lol yeah I'm not sure what I was thinking last night, Nelson and Struve were indeed decisive KO's. I guess I was just saying that considering Bigfoot and Struve's chins it's weird that he wasn't able to actually put either guy out. Struve was totally gassed and it was basically about whether or not Hunt could land one hard clean punch. And I'd agree that Hunt has more power than Miocic but I think Miocic has the better chin.
Lol yeah I'm not sure what I was thinking last night, Nelson and Struve were indeed decisive KO's. I guess I was just saying that considering Bigfoot and Struve's chins it's weird that he wasn't able to actually put either guy out. Struve was totally gassed and it was basically about whether or not Hunt could land one hard clean punch. And I'd agree that Hunt has more power than Miocic but I think Miocic has the better chin.
It's ok CTM I'll let you be wrong once, ONCE!!!!!!!!! after that I'll have to charge you, lol. I think in the Silva fight it was all about TRT and with Struve I think it was hard for Hunt to jump up and hit him on the jaw, lol. Either way this fight could be another instant classic!!!!!!!!
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Lol yeah I'm not sure what I was thinking last night, Nelson and Struve were indeed decisive KO's. I guess I was just saying that considering Bigfoot and Struve's chins it's weird that he wasn't able to actually put either guy out. Struve was totally gassed and it was basically about whether or not Hunt could land one hard clean punch. And I'd agree that Hunt has more power than Miocic but I think Miocic has the better chin.
It's ok CTM I'll let you be wrong once, ONCE!!!!!!!!! after that I'll have to charge you, lol. I think in the Silva fight it was all about TRT and with Struve I think it was hard for Hunt to jump up and hit him on the jaw, lol. Either way this fight could be another instant classic!!!!!!!!
Hunt has underrated TDD.. Miocic may be faster, but would you trust a guy to be able to stand and bang with Hunt for 5 rounds.. I also think Hunt has better head movement then Miocic, which should help him set up some nice counters.. I'll gladly take Hunt at almost 2-1..
Hunt has underrated TDD.. Miocic may be faster, but would you trust a guy to be able to stand and bang with Hunt for 5 rounds.. I also think Hunt has better head movement then Miocic, which should help him set up some nice counters.. I'll gladly take Hunt at almost 2-1..
good points... call me crazy but at 4-1 there might be some value on werdum with this massive layoff by cain. Both guys are on big layoffs but how sharp will cain be? werdum might be worth a couple bucks.
good points... call me crazy but at 4-1 there might be some value on werdum with this massive layoff by cain. Both guys are on big layoffs but how sharp will cain be? werdum might be worth a couple bucks.