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    UFC on Fox Rashad/Glover for sures?

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    wiiooiiw
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    Posted: Apr. 13, 2016 - 5:01 PM ET #1

    Seeing big bets always has me thinking of big parlays.  On this card there seem like a few can't misses.  Khabib -1000 is a big one, the guy has beaten the current champ easily and comes from a great camp.  Even if his leg falls off during the fight it's hard to see him losing.

    I also really like Khabib's brother from another mother Islam vs Dober.  I find I put a little too much credit on fighter's wrestling, being an old one myself, but Islam should be able to out wrestle Dober easiliy. Islam has patient standup too, so I don't see him getting stunned on the feet. Dober is one of those athletic guys come late to wrestling.  He can explode into great position, but doesn't have finishing chops in advantageous positions.  Islams around -180.

    John Dodson just outclasses Manny doesn't he?  it's amazing to me one of these guys is 18-7, other 18-9.  Dodson will be going up in weight here and Manny has fought plenty at 145 so there is a size disparity for sure, but Dodson is so fast, he doesn't get knocked out, he's got plenty of power for the weight class.  Like Lineker recently I believe the smaller 135lber makes a splash in this debut.
    Dodson -500

    Glover vs Rashad.  This is the main event so i suppose more scrutiny is expected, but I feel Glover is just better, more technical, tougher, better chin, good enough takedown defense, not only the he won't get taken down, but he doesn't allow it to limit his offense.  Glover all the way. -200

    -180, -500, -200 @ 100 gets you 280, 180 profit.

    -180, -500, -200, -150, 105, -220 @ 100 gets you 1391, 1291 profit

    I've got a few more leans.  The Ponz -150 over McGee (similar fighters, but Ponz better camp, more athleticism), Hacran +105 vs Cub (uneasy about this given Cub's camp, but Hacran's quicker. I don't know if he'll wear Cub down enough for finish, but for win.), Rose -220 vs Tecia (line has moved big for Rose even though she lost the first fight.  She was pretty young then and has improved more then Tecia even tho both come from great camps. Rose wins the rematch.)

    I've been so/so with betting mma.  I pay a decent amount of attention and bet a good amount of money, lol.  Really need to get away from the parlay mindset; always batting for homeruns when I'm decent at hitting singles.
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    Seeing big bets always has me thinking of big parlays.  On this card there seem like a few can't misses.  Khabib -1000 is a big one, the guy has beaten the current champ easily and comes from a great camp.  Even if his leg falls off during the fight it's hard to see him losing.

    I also really like Khabib's brother from another mother Islam vs Dober.  I find I put a little too much credit on fighter's wrestling, being an old one myself, but Islam should be able to out wrestle Dober easiliy. Islam has patient standup too, so I don't see him getting stunned on the feet. Dober is one of those athletic guys come late to wrestling.  He can explode into great position, but doesn't have finishing chops in advantageous positions.  Islams around -180.

    John Dodson just outclasses Manny doesn't he?  it's amazing to me one of these guys is 18-7, other 18-9.  Dodson will be going up in weight here and Manny has fought plenty at 145 so there is a size disparity for sure, but Dodson is so fast, he doesn't get knocked out, he's got plenty of power for the weight class.  Like Lineker recently I believe the smaller 135lber makes a splash in this debut.
    Dodson -500

    Glover vs Rashad.  This is the main event so i suppose more scrutiny is expected, but I feel Glover is just better, more technical, tougher, better chin, good enough takedown defense, not only the he won't get taken down, but he doesn't allow it to limit his offense.  Glover all the way. -200

    -180, -500, -200 @ 100 gets you 280, 180 profit.

    -180, -500, -200, -150, 105, -220 @ 100 gets you 1391, 1291 profit

    I've got a few more leans.  The Ponz -150 over McGee (similar fighters, but Ponz better camp, more athleticism), Hacran +105 vs Cub (uneasy about this given Cub's camp, but Hacran's quicker. I don't know if he'll wear Cub down enough for finish, but for win.), Rose -220 vs Tecia (line has moved big for Rose even though she lost the first fight.  She was pretty young then and has improved more then Tecia even tho both come from great camps. Rose wins the rematch.)

    I've been so/so with betting mma.  I pay a decent amount of attention and bet a good amount of money, lol.  Really need to get away from the parlay mindset; always batting for homeruns when I'm decent at hitting singles.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2016 - 2:56 PM ET #2

    Nice write up Wii, hopefully the top part is spot-on!!!
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    Nice write up Wii, hopefully the top part is spot-on!!!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 14, 2016 - 4:56 PM ET #3

    Thanks Ferrari, GL with Khabib 

    I gotta include Chiesa on my lean list.  Btw, the numbers I used in original post aren't what I'm betting.  Probably going to parlay individuals with Dodson and mix in a few Glover heavy parlays. 
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    Thanks Ferrari, GL with Khabib 

    I gotta include Chiesa on my lean list.  Btw, the numbers I used in original post aren't what I'm betting.  Probably going to parlay individuals with Dodson and mix in a few Glover heavy parlays. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2016 - 5:40 PM ET #4

    Post weighin impressions.


    Akhmedov vs dos Santos.  Akhmedov son's bday fight night. I like Akhmedov, he's been seasoned some in the Octagon and comes from a great camp. Dos Santos' one UFC fight was a loss vs Dalby, who just lost to Cummings and was very lucky to earn a draw in an earlier fight. Akhmedov is becoming a favorite of mine on this card, but these first fights of the night are often interesting.


    Graves vs. Randy Brown.  Brown with a big height advantage, Graves didn’t want to look, engage at all.  I think Brown's size/athleticism will be enough to negate Graves' wrestling. Could be a boring match Graves decision or Brown tko.


    Gamburyan vs Dodson.  Dodson giving up size just like I thought, but he looks almost soft at 135. May lay slightly off the gas, but i was leaning on 80% Dodson parlayed on all bets, so down from that.


    Islam Makachev vs Drew Dober.  Islam ½ lb over.  Islam a little taller, Dober looks confident. Not too worried about the 1/2 lb, still on Islam.


    Ponzinibbio vs McGee.  Ponzinibbio looks maybe too confident, but hey he's the Ponz.  McGee is just hitting 10 years sobriety.  This could be FOTN, but so could 5 other fights, good card overall.  


    Michael Chiesa vs Beneil Dariush.  Chiesa looks sucked down 156. Chiesa fairly taller, intense at staredown. Dariush chillest man in the world, but chill won't work against reach and aggression.  Chiesa still.


    Hacran Dias vs Cub Swanson.  Hacran maybe a little bigger like I thought and I feel he has a speed advantage as well. Both guys near the same age, but Cub seems longer in the tooth to me and not in a good way.


    Khabib vs Horcher.  Horcher looks like a man going to the gallows, sickly.  Still has to lose 1lb. Khabib looks just relieved and happy to be hitting the scales again. This is gonna be like The Dominator coming back from ACL surgery. Ring rust? What ring rust. Khabib's been on the sidelines watching all this McGregor adulation and as a result Horcher wont get out of round 1.

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    Post weighin impressions.


    Akhmedov vs dos Santos.  Akhmedov son's bday fight night. I like Akhmedov, he's been seasoned some in the Octagon and comes from a great camp. Dos Santos' one UFC fight was a loss vs Dalby, who just lost to Cummings and was very lucky to earn a draw in an earlier fight. Akhmedov is becoming a favorite of mine on this card, but these first fights of the night are often interesting.


    Graves vs. Randy Brown.  Brown with a big height advantage, Graves didn’t want to look, engage at all.  I think Brown's size/athleticism will be enough to negate Graves' wrestling. Could be a boring match Graves decision or Brown tko.


    Gamburyan vs Dodson.  Dodson giving up size just like I thought, but he looks almost soft at 135. May lay slightly off the gas, but i was leaning on 80% Dodson parlayed on all bets, so down from that.


    Islam Makachev vs Drew Dober.  Islam ½ lb over.  Islam a little taller, Dober looks confident. Not too worried about the 1/2 lb, still on Islam.


    Ponzinibbio vs McGee.  Ponzinibbio looks maybe too confident, but hey he's the Ponz.  McGee is just hitting 10 years sobriety.  This could be FOTN, but so could 5 other fights, good card overall.  


    Michael Chiesa vs Beneil Dariush.  Chiesa looks sucked down 156. Chiesa fairly taller, intense at staredown. Dariush chillest man in the world, but chill won't work against reach and aggression.  Chiesa still.


    Hacran Dias vs Cub Swanson.  Hacran maybe a little bigger like I thought and I feel he has a speed advantage as well. Both guys near the same age, but Cub seems longer in the tooth to me and not in a good way.


    Khabib vs Horcher.  Horcher looks like a man going to the gallows, sickly.  Still has to lose 1lb. Khabib looks just relieved and happy to be hitting the scales again. This is gonna be like The Dominator coming back from ACL surgery. Ring rust? What ring rust. Khabib's been on the sidelines watching all this McGregor adulation and as a result Horcher wont get out of round 1.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2016 - 3:47 PM ET #5

    Kinda a mess of parlays
    $10
    Teixeira -200
    Ponz -150
    Dias  100
    Dodson -500

    $15
    Teixeira -200
    Rose -180
    Chiesa 150
    Dodson -500

    $15
    Akhmedov -140
    Brown 100
    Dodson -500
    Dias 100

    $15
    Teixeira, Rose, Chiesa, Ponz, DIas, Dodson, Brown, Akhmedov

    $10
    Teixeira, Chiesa, Dias

    $20
    Rose, Akhmedov, Teixeira

    $16 Total $4RR and Single with
    Teixeira inside distance +122
    Khabib rd 1 +225
    Akhmedov Inside distance +329

    $8 Parlay
    Khabib rd1 +225
    Akhmedov Inside +329
    Fights to go distance +888
    less than 3.5

    $10 
    Khabib inside distance -135
    Akhmedov inside +329
    Fights end in ko/tko +460
    over 4.5

    $30 Total for 3 RR team parlays
    Chiesa inside distance +427
    Dias wins in rd3 +2825
    Dodson inside distance +100
    Khabib inside distance -130
    Teixeira inside distance +140

    $139 Total bet

    GL to all, should be a great card!
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    Kinda a mess of parlays
    $10
    Teixeira -200
    Ponz -150
    Dias  100
    Dodson -500

    $15
    Teixeira -200
    Rose -180
    Chiesa 150
    Dodson -500

    $15
    Akhmedov -140
    Brown 100
    Dodson -500
    Dias 100

    $15
    Teixeira, Rose, Chiesa, Ponz, DIas, Dodson, Brown, Akhmedov

    $10
    Teixeira, Chiesa, Dias

    $20
    Rose, Akhmedov, Teixeira

    $16 Total $4RR and Single with
    Teixeira inside distance +122
    Khabib rd 1 +225
    Akhmedov Inside distance +329

    $8 Parlay
    Khabib rd1 +225
    Akhmedov Inside +329
    Fights to go distance +888
    less than 3.5

    $10 
    Khabib inside distance -135
    Akhmedov inside +329
    Fights end in ko/tko +460
    over 4.5

    $30 Total for 3 RR team parlays
    Chiesa inside distance +427
    Dias wins in rd3 +2825
    Dodson inside distance +100
    Khabib inside distance -130
    Teixeira inside distance +140

    $139 Total bet

    GL to all, should be a great card!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2016 - 5:22 PM ET #6

    Great post weighin write up wiiooiiw
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    Great post weighin write up wiiooiiw
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2016 - 5:50 PM ET #7

    Thanks Kingme83.    Kinda a mess of parlays...remaining.
    $10
    Teixeira -200
    Ponz -150
    Dias  100
    Dodson -500

    $15
    Teixeira -200
    Rose -180
    Chiesa 150
    Dodson -500

    $10
    Teixeira, Chiesa, Dias


    $16 Total $4RR and Single with
    Teixeira inside distance +122
    Khabib rd 1 +225
    Akhmedov Inside distance +329



    $30 Total for 3 RR team parlays
    Chiesa inside distance +427
    Dias wins in rd3 +2825
    Dodson inside distance +100
    Khabib inside distance -130
    Teixeira inside distance +140

    $139 Total bet $69 left in play  

    I went way in for Akhmedov in the last 24 hours, big mistake, hope few tailed that.  His arm bar was close, but he faded after that.  I was so high on Dodson should've peppered in some rd1 finish for him.  Hopefully Khabib gets that rd 1 finish!
    Still was a great fight pass card with 3 fights.  
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    Thanks Kingme83.    Kinda a mess of parlays...remaining.
    $10
    Teixeira -200
    Ponz -150
    Dias  100
    Dodson -500

    $15
    Teixeira -200
    Rose -180
    Chiesa 150
    Dodson -500

    $10
    Teixeira, Chiesa, Dias


    $16 Total $4RR and Single with
    Teixeira inside distance +122
    Khabib rd 1 +225
    Akhmedov Inside distance +329



    $30 Total for 3 RR team parlays
    Chiesa inside distance +427
    Dias wins in rd3 +2825
    Dodson inside distance +100
    Khabib inside distance -130
    Teixeira inside distance +140

    $139 Total bet $69 left in play  

    I went way in for Akhmedov in the last 24 hours, big mistake, hope few tailed that.  His arm bar was close, but he faded after that.  I was so high on Dodson should've peppered in some rd1 finish for him.  Hopefully Khabib gets that rd 1 finish!
    Still was a great fight pass card with 3 fights.  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2016 - 6:43 PM ET #8

    Worst part of Akhmedov fight was losing the:

    Fights end in ko/tko over 4.5 +888
    and
    FIghts to end decision less than 3.5 +460
     
    I said it in the original post, I'm a sucker for parlays,  my weakness.ha

    5 fights so far and 3 ko/tkos...and 1 decision.
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    Worst part of Akhmedov fight was losing the:

    Fights end in ko/tko over 4.5 +888
    and
    FIghts to end decision less than 3.5 +460
     
    I said it in the original post, I'm a sucker for parlays,  my weakness.ha

    5 fights so far and 3 ko/tkos...and 1 decision.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2016 - 7:00 PM ET #9

    Added $5 for 87.17
    Bethe inside distance +1006
    Khabib inside   -150

    and
    $3 for 14.50
    Pennington submission +250
    Khabib inside -150
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    Added $5 for 87.17
    Bethe inside distance +1006
    Khabib inside   -150

    and
    $3 for 14.50
    Pennington submission +250
    Khabib inside -150
     
    wiiooiiw
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2016 - 1:21 AM ET #10

    $3 $67.13
    Teixeira inside distance +140
    Khabib inside distance -130
    Chiesa inside distance +427

    $3 $25.48df
    Teixeira inside distance  +140 
    Khabib inside distance  -130
    Dodson inside distance  100

    $3 $75.89
    Teixiera inside distance +140
    Chiesa  inside distance  +427
    Dodson inside distance  100

    $3 $55.94
    Khabib inside distance -130
    Chiesa inside distance +427
    Dodson inside distance  100

    $224.44 Total Return on $147 Bet

    Not bad, could've been much better with a Dias win in rd3, or Akhmedov pulling off that armbar would've been sweet; $10 hitting +329 with +460 ko/tko over 4.5 for the night and Khabib inside @-135 for $408.  Need to mix it up more, but at the same time parlay down a little.  I missed that +460 on ko/tko that I was so sure on, because of parlays, but at the same time it's a large multiplier that would have made it a great RR partner.  
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    $3 $67.13
    Teixeira inside distance +140
    Khabib inside distance -130
    Chiesa inside distance +427

    $3 $25.48df
    Teixeira inside distance  +140 
    Khabib inside distance  -130
    Dodson inside distance  100

    $3 $75.89
    Teixiera inside distance +140
    Chiesa  inside distance  +427
    Dodson inside distance  100

    $3 $55.94
    Khabib inside distance -130
    Chiesa inside distance +427
    Dodson inside distance  100

    $224.44 Total Return on $147 Bet

    Not bad, could've been much better with a Dias win in rd3, or Akhmedov pulling off that armbar would've been sweet; $10 hitting +329 with +460 ko/tko over 4.5 for the night and Khabib inside @-135 for $408.  Need to mix it up more, but at the same time parlay down a little.  I missed that +460 on ko/tko that I was so sure on, because of parlays, but at the same time it's a large multiplier that would have made it a great RR partner.  
     
    wiiooiiw
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2016 - 11:41 AM ET #11

    $15
    Teixeira -200
    Rose -180
    Chiesa 150
    Dodson -500

    Got a few accounts, didn't realize until today I hit this as well for $105.  So $147 put at risk, $329.44 Total Return.  
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    $15
    Teixeira -200
    Rose -180
    Chiesa 150
    Dodson -500

    Got a few accounts, didn't realize until today I hit this as well for $105.  So $147 put at risk, $329.44 Total Return.  
     
    wiiooiiw
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2016 - 10:05 AM ET #12

    I'm not a fan of this next event from a betting perspective.  Jon Jones will probably win inside the distance and MM will likely retain, despite a tough Cejudo.  The rest I could flip a coin.  Just gonna ride this out for awhile, 7 spots, 5 team RR. 22 bets x $3.
    Betting:
    5/8   Struve        -175 vs A Silva
    5/8   G Nelson   +170 vs Albert Tumenov
    5/8   C Wade     +175 vs   Rustam Khabilov
    5/29 T Almeida   -155 vs Cody Garbrandt
    6/4 D Poirier  -200 vs Bobby Green
    5/14 Werdum     +121 Finish inside distance vs Miocic
    6/18 R McDonald -140 Fight won't go the distance vs Wonderboy 

    5/8 Also, got a Arlovski/Overeem draw +22500 for $10.  Training partners, both learning patience, completely unlikely.
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    I'm not a fan of this next event from a betting perspective.  Jon Jones will probably win inside the distance and MM will likely retain, despite a tough Cejudo.  The rest I could flip a coin.  Just gonna ride this out for awhile, 7 spots, 5 team RR. 22 bets x $3.
    Betting:
    5/8   Struve        -175 vs A Silva
    5/8   G Nelson   +170 vs Albert Tumenov
    5/8   C Wade     +175 vs   Rustam Khabilov
    5/29 T Almeida   -155 vs Cody Garbrandt
    6/4 D Poirier  -200 vs Bobby Green
    5/14 Werdum     +121 Finish inside distance vs Miocic
    6/18 R McDonald -140 Fight won't go the distance vs Wonderboy 

    5/8 Also, got a Arlovski/Overeem draw +22500 for $10.  Training partners, both learning patience, completely unlikely.
     
     
    warcameagle56
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    Posted: May. 1, 2016 - 11:38 AM ET #13

    I've seen Rory +110 at several books.
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    I've seen Rory +110 at several books.
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