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    UFC JAPAN - Rare 10 unit dog play!!!

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    MR219
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 8:19 AM ET #1

    YTD Record:
    Overall: 193-180-9, +61.80 Units 
    UFC: 153-152-9, 32.35 Units 
    Bellator: 26-20, +19.20 Units 
    WSOF: 10-7,  +5.10 Units 
    Titan FC: 4-1, +5.15 Units 
    Final 2013 Record: 218-229-5, +67.50 units 
    Final 2012 Record: 158-174-2, -76.20 Units 
    Final 2011 Record: 148-132-3, +123.55 Units 
    Final 2010 Record: 115-119-3, +11.25 Units 
    Final 2009 Record: 80-82-1, +23.75 Units 

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    YTD Record:
    Overall: 193-180-9, +61.80 Units 
    UFC: 153-152-9, 32.35 Units 
    Bellator: 26-20, +19.20 Units 
    WSOF: 10-7,  +5.10 Units 
    Titan FC: 4-1, +5.15 Units 
    Final 2013 Record: 218-229-5, +67.50 units 
    Final 2012 Record: 158-174-2, -76.20 Units 
    Final 2011 Record: 148-132-3, +123.55 Units 
    Final 2010 Record: 115-119-3, +11.25 Units 
    Final 2009 Record: 80-82-1, +23.75 Units 

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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 8:19 AM ET #2

    @MR219MMA: For #UFCJapan I have a rare 10 unit dog play on Roy Nelson (+130). Better hammer this now before the line gets worse.
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    @MR219MMA: For #UFCJapan I have a rare 10 unit dog play on Roy Nelson (+130). Better hammer this now before the line gets worse.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 4:51 PM ET #3

    Why so confident on Roy?  I certainly think this fight can go either way, especially with both of their heavyweight knockout power. Look how many people thought Bigfoot was a lock this past weekend over Arlovski.
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    Why so confident on Roy?  I certainly think this fight can go either way, especially with both of their heavyweight knockout power. Look how many people thought Bigfoot was a lock this past weekend over Arlovski.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 5:23 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by JimGunn:

    Why so confident on Roy?  I certainly think this fight can go either way, especially with both of their heavyweight knockout power. Look how many people thought Bigfoot was a lock this past weekend over Arlovski.

    By no means am I saying this is a lock. However, when you look at who has more ways to win the fight, Nelson has a big advantage. 

    Nelson also tends to fight intelligently. I think he will do what Stephan Struve should have done which is put Hunt on his back and work for submissions.

    Also, whenever I cap a fight, I try to predict what the opening line will be. When there is such a large discrepancy, I will typically hammer it if it is in my favor. Normally, the lines open fairly close to my estimates.  However, I thought Nelson should've opened around a -175 favourite in this fight, not as a dog. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimGunn:

    Why so confident on Roy?  I certainly think this fight can go either way, especially with both of their heavyweight knockout power. Look how many people thought Bigfoot was a lock this past weekend over Arlovski.

    By no means am I saying this is a lock. However, when you look at who has more ways to win the fight, Nelson has a big advantage. 

    Nelson also tends to fight intelligently. I think he will do what Stephan Struve should have done which is put Hunt on his back and work for submissions.

    Also, whenever I cap a fight, I try to predict what the opening line will be. When there is such a large discrepancy, I will typically hammer it if it is in my favor. Normally, the lines open fairly close to my estimates.  However, I thought Nelson should've opened around a -175 favourite in this fight, not as a dog. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 7:38 PM ET #5

    Ballsy, ballsy play Mister. Not the play itself, but the units!!! I had a post about the line too but now I'm really wondering.
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    Ballsy, ballsy play Mister. Not the play itself, but the units!!! I had a post about the line too but now I'm really wondering.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 7:44 PM ET #6

    too risky MR. we all know or atleast i know roy has more ways to win.

    im leaning hunt but who knows, i would love to see roy take him down in the 1st rd (we know he can) but we're all thinking roys gonna gas out and hunt can push a better pace
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    too risky MR. we all know or atleast i know roy has more ways to win.

    im leaning hunt but who knows, i would love to see roy take him down in the 1st rd (we know he can) but we're all thinking roys gonna gas out and hunt can push a better pace
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 7:47 PM ET #7

    also by no mean did i think Bigfoot was a lock......i was on Arlovski the whole time...im pretty sure i said that in a previous thread....better camp and no TRT...but hit me up on youtube...my thread is everywhere
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    also by no mean did i think Bigfoot was a lock......i was on Arlovski the whole time...im pretty sure i said that in a previous thread....better camp and no TRT...but hit me up on youtube...my thread is everywhere
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 8:36 PM ET #8

    What's crazy about this fight is most people like both guys for many different reasons. You'd figure Roy will take him down but Mark just seems to find a way.
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    What's crazy about this fight is most people like both guys for many different reasons. You'd figure Roy will take him down but Mark just seems to find a way.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 9:54 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    Ballsy, ballsy play Mister. Not the play itself, but the units!!! I had a post about the line too but now I'm really wondering.

    I think the nostalgia of Hunt fighting in Japan has something to do with the line being the way it is. Otherwise, I just don't have a clue why the line opened the way did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    Ballsy, ballsy play Mister. Not the play itself, but the units!!! I had a post about the line too but now I'm really wondering.

    I think the nostalgia of Hunt fighting in Japan has something to do with the line being the way it is. Otherwise, I just don't have a clue why the line opened the way did.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 9:56 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Coreyccr:

    too risky MR. we all know or atleast i know roy has more ways to win.

    im leaning hunt but who knows, i would love to see roy take him down in the 1st rd (we know he can) but we're all thinking roys gonna gas out and hunt can push a better pace

    I am not sure why anyone would think Hunt has better cardio than Nelson. Hunt was breathing pretty heavily by round two in both the Bigfoot and Struve fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coreyccr:

    too risky MR. we all know or atleast i know roy has more ways to win.

    im leaning hunt but who knows, i would love to see roy take him down in the 1st rd (we know he can) but we're all thinking roys gonna gas out and hunt can push a better pace

    I am not sure why anyone would think Hunt has better cardio than Nelson. Hunt was breathing pretty heavily by round two in both the Bigfoot and Struve fights.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 9:57 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Coreyccr:

    also by no mean did i think Bigfoot was a lock......i was on Arlovski the whole time...im pretty sure i said that in a previous thread....better camp and no TRT...but hit me up on youtube...my thread is everywhere

    I'm happy you hit on Arlovski. I'm sure your podcast is great, I just don't have time to listen....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coreyccr:

    also by no mean did i think Bigfoot was a lock......i was on Arlovski the whole time...im pretty sure i said that in a previous thread....better camp and no TRT...but hit me up on youtube...my thread is everywhere

    I'm happy you hit on Arlovski. I'm sure your podcast is great, I just don't have time to listen....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 10:00 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    What's crazy about this fight is most people like both guys for many different reasons. You'd figure Roy will take him down but Mark just seems to find a way.

    I think he is a very lucky not to be zero and three for his last three fights. That draw against Bigfoot was bull$hit. I was on the Hunt and got lucky. There is no way that fifth-round should've been scored 10-8. He got knocked out by JDS, and Struve practically giftwrapped that victory for Hunt. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    What's crazy about this fight is most people like both guys for many different reasons. You'd figure Roy will take him down but Mark just seems to find a way.

    I think he is a very lucky not to be zero and three for his last three fights. That draw against Bigfoot was bull$hit. I was on the Hunt and got lucky. There is no way that fifth-round should've been scored 10-8. He got knocked out by JDS, and Struve practically giftwrapped that victory for Hunt. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 10:22 PM ET #13

    ok..i agree
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    ok..i agree
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 10:55 PM ET #14

    The ref saved Silva in that fight!!! Jumped when Hunt was dropping bombs because he had blood all over his face. Later that round Hunt missed a trip take down that would have finished Silva off, instead damn near got finished!!! The struve fight I'll give you, but left hook from hunt is money.
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    The ref saved Silva in that fight!!! Jumped when Hunt was dropping bombs because he had blood all over his face. Later that round Hunt missed a trip take down that would have finished Silva off, instead damn near got finished!!! The struve fight I'll give you, but left hook from hunt is money.
     
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    The ref saved Silva in that fight!!! Jumped when Hunt was dropping bombs because he had blood all over his face. Later that round Hunt missed a trip take down that would have finished Silva off, instead damn near got finished!!! The struve fight I'll give you, but left hook from hunt is money.
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    The ref saved Silva in that fight!!! Jumped when Hunt was dropping bombs because he had blood all over his face. Later that round Hunt missed a trip take down that would have finished Silva off, instead damn near got finished!!! The struve fight I'll give you, but left hook from hunt is money.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 11:03 PM ET #16

    Hey you know what Mister, what really pisses me off is the Cheaters!!!! Silva said the only reason why he took TRT was because of a minor injury, Bullshyt!!! I believed him and drank kool-aid and wham Arlovski drops him!!! TRT fade is a great betting angle!!! No TRT Hunt kills him in 30 seconds!!
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    Hey you know what Mister, what really pisses me off is the Cheaters!!!! Silva said the only reason why he took TRT was because of a minor injury, Bullshyt!!! I believed him and drank kool-aid and wham Arlovski drops him!!! TRT fade is a great betting angle!!! No TRT Hunt kills him in 30 seconds!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2014 - 11:08 PM ET #17

    Sorry Mister wasn't yelling at you, tired of all the cheaters in mma!!!
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    Sorry Mister wasn't yelling at you, tired of all the cheaters in mma!!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2014 - 1:05 AM ET #18

    I'm with you MR2 BOL to us and Roy Nelson.
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    I'm with you MR2 BOL to us and Roy Nelson.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2014 - 10:01 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    Sorry Mister wasn't yelling at you, tired of all the cheaters in mma!!!

    Dont knock tge cheaters!!!  A lot of those cheaters made me a $hit load of money over the years!  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    Sorry Mister wasn't yelling at you, tired of all the cheaters in mma!!!

    Dont knock tge cheaters!!!  A lot of those cheaters made me a $hit load of money over the years!  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2014 - 10:02 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by mikesomoney:

    I'm with you MR2 BOL to us and Roy Nelson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesomoney:

    I'm with you MR2 BOL to us and Roy Nelson.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR219:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    Sorry Mister wasn't yelling at you, tired of all the cheaters in mma!!!
    Dont knock tge cheaters!!!  A lot of those cheaters made me a $hit load of money over the years!




    Me too Mister, now we fade them, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR219:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari29:

    Sorry Mister wasn't yelling at you, tired of all the cheaters in mma!!!
    Dont knock tge cheaters!!!  A lot of those cheaters made me a $hit load of money over the years!




    Me too Mister, now we fade them, lol.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2014 - 9:34 PM ET #22

    On opposite side here MR219, love Hunt's chin to outlast Roy's cardio. Good luck & hope we are on the same page for rest of the cards. Good luck buddy
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    On opposite side here MR219, love Hunt's chin to outlast Roy's cardio. Good luck & hope we are on the same page for rest of the cards. Good luck buddy
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 12:34 PM ET #23

    2.  Sam Sicilia (+130) over Katsunori Kikuno. Risking 3 units to win 3.9 units. 

    3.  Kazuki Tokudome (-160) over Johnny Case. Risking 3.2 units to win 2 units. 
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    2.  Sam Sicilia (+130) over Katsunori Kikuno. Risking 3 units to win 3.9 units. 

    3.  Kazuki Tokudome (-160) over Johnny Case. Risking 3.2 units to win 2 units. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 12:38 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by MpmAgency:

    On opposite side here MR219, love Hunt's chin to outlast Roy's cardio. Good luck & hope we are on the same page for rest of the cards. Good luck buddy

    Why does everyone think Hunt is some type of cardio machine and/or will have a cardio advantage in this fight?!?  His cardio is awful as well!  He has been completely gassed entering round 2 of every single one of his UFC fights that have gone that long. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by MpmAgency:

    On opposite side here MR219, love Hunt's chin to outlast Roy's cardio. Good luck & hope we are on the same page for rest of the cards. Good luck buddy

    Why does everyone think Hunt is some type of cardio machine and/or will have a cardio advantage in this fight?!?  His cardio is awful as well!  He has been completely gassed entering round 2 of every single one of his UFC fights that have gone that long. 


     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 3:36 PM ET #25

    What Mister, Hunt is a cardio machine, LMFAO!!! Play your play Mister and we will try to holes in it. You are a good capper, I think the size of your play has drawn eyes and fingers to your thread!!!
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    What Mister, Hunt is a cardio machine, LMFAO!!! Play your play Mister and we will try to holes in it. You are a good capper, I think the size of your play has drawn eyes and fingers to your thread!!!
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