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    UFC Fight Night 55 & 56

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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2014 - 6:35 AM ET #1

    UFC Fight Night 55

    November 7, 2014 | Allphones Arena | Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

    MAIN CARD
    UFC Fight Pass, 10 p.m. ET

    Luke Rockhold vs. Michael Bisping
    Al Iaquinta vs. Ross Pearson
    Clint Hester vs. Robert Whittaker
    Soa Palelei vs. opponent TBA

    PRELIMINARY CARD
    UFC Fight Pass, 7:30 p.m. ET

    Jake Matthews vs. Vagner Rocha
    Guto Inocente vs. Anthony Perosh
    Sam Alvey vs. Dylan Andrews
    Neil Seery vs. Richie Vaculik
    Chris Clements vs. Vik Grujic
    Daniel Kelly vs. Luke Zachrich
    Marcus Brimage vs. Jumabieke Tuerxun
    Frankie Saenz vs. Aljamain Sterling


    UFC Fight Night 56: Shogun vs. Manuwa


    November 8, 2014 | Ginasio Municipal Tancredo Neves | Uberlandia, Minas Gerais, Brazil

    Mauricio Rua vs. Jimi Manuwa
    Francimar Barroso vs. Ovince Saint Preux
    John Lineker vs. Ian McCall
    Warlley Alves vs. Alan Jouban
    Nina Ansaroff vs. Juliana Lima

    Leon Edwards vs. Claudio Silva
    Caio Magalhaes vs. Trevor Smith
    Dhiego Lima vs. Pawel Pawlak
    Charlie Brenneman vs. Leandro Silva
    Thomas Almeida vs. Tim Gorman
    Colby Covington vs. Wagner Silva
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    UFC Fight Night 55

    November 7, 2014 | Allphones Arena | Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

    MAIN CARD
    UFC Fight Pass, 10 p.m. ET

    Luke Rockhold vs. Michael Bisping
    Al Iaquinta vs. Ross Pearson
    Clint Hester vs. Robert Whittaker
    Soa Palelei vs. opponent TBA

    PRELIMINARY CARD
    UFC Fight Pass, 7:30 p.m. ET

    Jake Matthews vs. Vagner Rocha
    Guto Inocente vs. Anthony Perosh
    Sam Alvey vs. Dylan Andrews
    Neil Seery vs. Richie Vaculik
    Chris Clements vs. Vik Grujic
    Daniel Kelly vs. Luke Zachrich
    Marcus Brimage vs. Jumabieke Tuerxun
    Frankie Saenz vs. Aljamain Sterling


    UFC Fight Night 56: Shogun vs. Manuwa


    November 8, 2014 | Ginasio Municipal Tancredo Neves | Uberlandia, Minas Gerais, Brazil

    Mauricio Rua vs. Jimi Manuwa
    Francimar Barroso vs. Ovince Saint Preux
    John Lineker vs. Ian McCall
    Warlley Alves vs. Alan Jouban
    Nina Ansaroff vs. Juliana Lima

    Leon Edwards vs. Claudio Silva
    Caio Magalhaes vs. Trevor Smith
    Dhiego Lima vs. Pawel Pawlak
    Charlie Brenneman vs. Leandro Silva
    Thomas Almeida vs. Tim Gorman
    Colby Covington vs. Wagner Silva
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2014 - 6:41 AM ET #2

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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2014 - 6:41 AM ET #3

    Frankie Saenz vs. Aljamain Sterling
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    Frankie is past his prime and ALJO isn't even close to his yet. This is the parlay partner you're looking for. ALJO is better pretty much everywhere other then strength. ALJO will finish Saenz sometime before the 3rd begins.

    Sterling -500>
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    Frankie Saenz vs. Aljamain Sterling
    ====================================

    Frankie is past his prime and ALJO isn't even close to his yet. This is the parlay partner you're looking for. ALJO is better pretty much everywhere other then strength. ALJO will finish Saenz sometime before the 3rd begins.

    Sterling -500>
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2014 - 4:40 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by whipton:

    Frankie Saenz vs. Aljamain Sterling====================================Frankie is past his prime and ALJO isn't even close to his yet. This is the parlay partner you're looking for. ALJO is better pretty much everywhere other then strength. ALJO will finish Saenz sometime before the 3rd begins.Sterling -500>



    Totally agree Whip, Sterling is getting better every minute and his corner is top notch!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whipton:

    Frankie Saenz vs. Aljamain Sterling====================================Frankie is past his prime and ALJO isn't even close to his yet. This is the parlay partner you're looking for. ALJO is better pretty much everywhere other then strength. ALJO will finish Saenz sometime before the 3rd begins.Sterling -500>



    Totally agree Whip, Sterling is getting better every minute and his corner is top notch!!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2014 - 9:59 PM ET #5

    Marcus Brimage vs. Jumabieke Tuerxun
    ==============================

    marcus has the better footwork and is the better striker. i expect brimage to dominate a 3 round decision. the only way tex's wins is via wrasslin'. i doubt think that will be happening.

    brimage -250>>
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    Marcus Brimage vs. Jumabieke Tuerxun
    ==============================

    marcus has the better footwork and is the better striker. i expect brimage to dominate a 3 round decision. the only way tex's wins is via wrasslin'. i doubt think that will be happening.

    brimage -250>>
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2014 - 4:58 AM ET #6

    Looks like Saenz is out of his fight with Sterling unfortunately.
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    Looks like Saenz is out of his fight with Sterling unfortunately.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2014 - 5:31 PM ET #7

    Hey Whip, where'd you get Brimage at -250? Opener? Local? I'm seeing him at -400 to -450. Not accusing, just wondering. BOL
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    Hey Whip, where'd you get Brimage at -250? Opener? Local? I'm seeing him at -400 to -450. Not accusing, just wondering. BOL
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2014 - 6:18 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

    Hey Whip, where'd you get Brimage at -250? Opener? Local? I'm seeing him at -400 to -450. Not accusing, just wondering. BOL

    that was my guess on the opening odds. no such odds out the like that. i was way off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

    Hey Whip, where'd you get Brimage at -250? Opener? Local? I'm seeing him at -400 to -450. Not accusing, just wondering. BOL

    that was my guess on the opening odds. no such odds out the like that. i was way off.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2014 - 6:24 PM ET #9

    Yeah, that was wishful thinking on those odds. I have a bet on Brimage at -380. It was originally part of a parlay with Sterling but now since that fight is cancelled it's just a straight bet for a small return on Brimage.
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    Yeah, that was wishful thinking on those odds. I have a bet on Brimage at -380. It was originally part of a parlay with Sterling but now since that fight is cancelled it's just a straight bet for a small return on Brimage.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2014 - 7:14 PM ET #10

    Daniel Kelly vs. Luke Zachridge 
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    Dk is old and luke still has a little fight in him.  the only way Dk wins is if he takes LZ down and LnP's  for the decision win. i think luke will overwehlm Dk and will probably finish him early.
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    Daniel Kelly vs. Luke Zachridge 
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    Dk is old and luke still has a little fight in him.  the only way Dk wins is if he takes LZ down and LnP's  for the decision win. i think luke will overwehlm Dk and will probably finish him early.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2014 - 7:17 PM ET #11

    Louis Smolka Vs Richie Vaculik
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    PLEASE let me know where richie has the edge.

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    Louis Smolka Vs Richie Vaculik
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    PLEASE let me know where richie has the edge.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2014 - 7:33 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by whipton:

    that was my guess on the opening odds. no such odds out the like that. i was way off.


    Gotcha. Makes sense.

    Daniel Kelly has some of the most rigid, choppy and stiff kickboxing I've seen on TV mma (I've seen a handful of local amateurs with worse). But Dana and co are just itching for an Aussie star.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whipton:

    that was my guess on the opening odds. no such odds out the like that. i was way off.


    Gotcha. Makes sense.

    Daniel Kelly has some of the most rigid, choppy and stiff kickboxing I've seen on TV mma (I've seen a handful of local amateurs with worse). But Dana and co are just itching for an Aussie star.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2014 - 10:41 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by whipton:

    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

    Hey Whip, where'd you get Brimage at -250? Opener? Local? I'm seeing him at -400 to -450. Not accusing, just wondering. BOL
    that was my guess on the opening odds. no such odds out the like that. i was way off.


    You was hoping, begging, pleading for minus 250 Whip. No such luck, lol. You'll be alright though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whipton:

    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

    Hey Whip, where'd you get Brimage at -250? Opener? Local? I'm seeing him at -400 to -450. Not accusing, just wondering. BOL
    that was my guess on the opening odds. no such odds out the like that. i was way off.


    You was hoping, begging, pleading for minus 250 Whip. No such luck, lol. You'll be alright though.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2014 - 7:31 PM ET #14

    Man, this is a tough card. I usually look for solid dogs first and go from there. I don't see one dog I'd feel very comfortable with. I'd say Whittaker +165 over Clint Hester has a slight chance, but I really like Hester's growth in the last 3-4 fights. Al Iaquinta over Pearson at +160 looks okay I guess, but this is easily Iaquinta's stiffest striking battle to date. Walt Harris +145 over Soa maybe, but I feel like Soa is just more polished everywhere.

    What do you guys think? Do any of you see a dog on FN 55 you're considering?
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    Man, this is a tough card. I usually look for solid dogs first and go from there. I don't see one dog I'd feel very comfortable with. I'd say Whittaker +165 over Clint Hester has a slight chance, but I really like Hester's growth in the last 3-4 fights. Al Iaquinta over Pearson at +160 looks okay I guess, but this is easily Iaquinta's stiffest striking battle to date. Walt Harris +145 over Soa maybe, but I feel like Soa is just more polished everywhere.

    What do you guys think? Do any of you see a dog on FN 55 you're considering?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2014 - 11:09 PM ET #15

    For dogs I am considering Iaquinta at +160, Perosh at +160 and maybe Alvey at +145 and Clements at +130. 
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    For dogs I am considering Iaquinta at +160, Perosh at +160 and maybe Alvey at +145 and Clements at +130. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2014 - 5:52 AM ET #16

    Vik Grujic Vs. Chris Clements 
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    grappler vs striker. If chris can keep this fight standing his chances on winning significantly increase. vik wants to get this to the ground and  use his jits to win.  weather thats LnP'ing, advancing position, maybe even tapping clements. I just think that's not likely to happen. 

    I'll take chris clement via Dec/TKO/KO

    Chris Clements +125 (1 Unit for 1.3 Units)
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    Vik Grujic Vs. Chris Clements 
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    grappler vs striker. If chris can keep this fight standing his chances on winning significantly increase. vik wants to get this to the ground and  use his jits to win.  weather thats LnP'ing, advancing position, maybe even tapping clements. I just think that's not likely to happen. 

    I'll take chris clement via Dec/TKO/KO

    Chris Clements +125 (1 Unit for 1.3 Units)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 6:58 AM ET #17

    Dylan Andrews vs Sam Alvey
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    Andrews is the better technical and power striker with a good take down game. Sammy is dropping down in weight in hopes of advancing his career. He's a striker and he's a .....striker.  I don't think this fight gets out of the first.

    Dylan Andrews KO Round 1
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    Dylan Andrews vs Sam Alvey
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    Andrews is the better technical and power striker with a good take down game. Sammy is dropping down in weight in hopes of advancing his career. He's a striker and he's a .....striker.  I don't think this fight gets out of the first.

    Dylan Andrews KO Round 1
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 7:15 AM ET #18

    Anthony Perosh Vs Guto Incente 
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    Anthony is 42 and can't strike. Guto has good striking but has no TDD and a suspect cardio.  

    Being 42 instantly makes you fade material but his high level jitz and the fact he's facing someone that he may be able to take down creates intrigue on the possible outcome.

    Guto is fighting at more of his natural weight class. He's a striker that trains with the blackzillians. scary stuff. i would guess he has been working his behind off this training camp on his defensive wrestling. if guto can keep this fight standing. he wins.

    i like the under 1.5 rounds 

    most likely guto via KO round 1. slight chance  of guto dec.

    perosh via sub prop line is worth a sprikle. should be at +200>>>


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    Anthony Perosh Vs Guto Incente 
    =========================

    Anthony is 42 and can't strike. Guto has good striking but has no TDD and a suspect cardio.  

    Being 42 instantly makes you fade material but his high level jitz and the fact he's facing someone that he may be able to take down creates intrigue on the possible outcome.

    Guto is fighting at more of his natural weight class. He's a striker that trains with the blackzillians. scary stuff. i would guess he has been working his behind off this training camp on his defensive wrestling. if guto can keep this fight standing. he wins.

    i like the under 1.5 rounds 

    most likely guto via KO round 1. slight chance  of guto dec.

    perosh via sub prop line is worth a sprikle. should be at +200>>>


     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2014 - 10:26 AM ET #19

    Jake Matthews Vs. Vagner Rocha
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    jake's a decent prospect with good striking and solid jitz. vagner has high level jits. i don't think jake is foolish enough to take the fight to the ground where he could possibly be exposed. look for him to out strike rocha on his feet while avoiding td's.

    matthews via KO round 1 

    flier on rocha via sub +600>> is not a bad idea
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    Jake Matthews Vs. Vagner Rocha
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    jake's a decent prospect with good striking and solid jitz. vagner has high level jits. i don't think jake is foolish enough to take the fight to the ground where he could possibly be exposed. look for him to out strike rocha on his feet while avoiding td's.

    matthews via KO round 1 

    flier on rocha via sub +600>> is not a bad idea
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2014 - 5:35 PM ET #20

    Robert Whittaker/Clint Hester Over 2½ (-145) 1.5 Units for 1 Unit
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    Robert Whittaker/Clint Hester Over 2½ (-145) 1.5 Units for 1 Unit
     
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    Parlay: @LukeRockhold (-440) x @LASTSAMURAIUFC (-350) x @Brim205 (-485) 8.8 Units for 7.9 Units
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    Parlay: @LukeRockhold (-440) x @LASTSAMURAIUFC (-350) x @Brim205 (-485) 8.8 Units for 7.9 Units
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2014 - 5:38 PM ET #22

    I just made the exact same parlay about an hour ago at -103. I like our chances!
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    I just made the exact same parlay about an hour ago at -103. I like our chances!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2014 - 6:59 PM ET #23

    Parlay: @JakeBJJMMA (-400) x @dylanthevillian (-165) 2.5 Units for 2.5 Units
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    Parlay: @soathehulk (-170) x @LukeZachrich (-300) 2 Units for 2.2 Units
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    Parlay: @soathehulk (-170) x @LukeZachrich (-300) 2 Units for 2.2 Units
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2014 - 7:00 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by JimGunn:

    I just made the exact same parlay about an hour ago at -103. I like our chances!

     niice BOL to us
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimGunn:

    I just made the exact same parlay about an hour ago at -103. I like our chances!

     niice BOL to us
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