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    UFC Fight Night 130: Thompson vs. Till (5/27/18)

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    Posted: May. 21, 2018 - 5:46 PM ET #1

    UFC Fight Night 130

    Venue: Echo Arena
    Location: Liverpool, England

    FS1 - Main Card - 1:00 PM ET
    Stephen Thompson vs Darren Till
    Neil Magny vs Craig White
    Arnold Allen vs Mads Burnell
    Jason Knight vs Makwan Amirkhani
    Davey Grant vs Manny Bermudez
    Eric Spicely vs Darren Stewart
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    UFC Fight Night 130

    Venue: Echo Arena
    Location: Liverpool, England

    FS1 - Main Card - 1:00 PM ET
    Stephen Thompson vs Darren Till
    Neil Magny vs Craig White
    Arnold Allen vs Mads Burnell
    Jason Knight vs Makwan Amirkhani
    Davey Grant vs Manny Bermudez
    Eric Spicely vs Darren Stewart
     
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    FS1 - Prelims - 11:00 AM ET
    Claudio Silva vs Nordine Taleb
    Daniel Kelly vs Tom Breese
    Bradley Scott vs Salim Touahri
    Gillian Robertson vs Molly McCann
    UFC Fight Pass - Early Prelims - 9:30 AM ET
    Elias Theodorou vs Trevor Smith
    Gina Mazany vs Lina Lansberg
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    FS1 - Prelims - 11:00 AM ET
    Claudio Silva vs Nordine Taleb
    Daniel Kelly vs Tom Breese
    Bradley Scott vs Salim Touahri
    Gillian Robertson vs Molly McCann
    UFC Fight Pass - Early Prelims - 9:30 AM ET
    Elias Theodorou vs Trevor Smith
    Gina Mazany vs Lina Lansberg
     
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    Opening Odds (5Dimes):

    Stephen Thompson (-165)
    Darren Till (+125)

    Neil Magny (-380)
    Craig White (+260)

    Arnold Allen (-245)
    Mads Burnell (+175)

    Jason Knight (-230)
    Makwan Amirkhani (+170)
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    Opening Odds (5Dimes):

    Stephen Thompson (-165)
    Darren Till (+125)

    Neil Magny (-380)
    Craig White (+260)

    Arnold Allen (-245)
    Mads Burnell (+175)

    Jason Knight (-230)
    Makwan Amirkhani (+170)
     
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    The first UFC event ever to take place in Liverpool will be capped off with a bout between two high level strikers in the Welterweight division. Undefeated rising star Darren Till is set to face the two-time title challenger Stephen Thompson in the main event of UFC Fight Night 130.

    Stephen “Wonderboy” Thompson was forced into this match against Till. He wanted to fight Rafael dos Anjos who is facing Colby Covington, to get back into title contention. Going into his 18th MMA match, after going 57-0 in kickboxing, there is a lot of fight milage on his body. At 35 years old, after being rocked badly in his last two fights, you start to think he is on a decline. At his level, with his style, Wonderboy has reached a plateau skill wise whereas his opponent Till is 25 years old and is still developing and growing considerably in between fights. Although Thompson has gone 25 minutes twice with the current Welterweight champion, this is arguably the best striker he’s ever faced, in a young and hungry Till.

    Fighting in his hometown, Darren “The Gorilla” Till, is a master of distance, similar to Thompson, however with explosive power. He looks to find the openings by throwing feints and controlling the center of the octagon. What Wonderboy referred to as “predictable” are very hard and accurate straight lefts and rights, a fast jab cross, and damaging elbows. Till has the self confidence and fearlessness it takes to be an elite fighter, which allows him to push the pace early as he showed in his last fight against Cerrone. As far as accuracy of significant strikes, Till lands 52.35% compared to Thompson’s 44.01%.

    Stylistically, Thompson is a Karate style fighter who stands sideways and keeps his hands low while using his front leg sidekick to keep distance, and Till is a Muay Thai style striker who closes the distance with explosiveness to do damage. Looking at Thompson’s last two fights against Woodley, he struggled when Tyron decided to push the pace, and especially when Woodley threw his straight right which knocked Wonderboy down. The same straight right from Ellenberger knocked him down earlier in his career as well. This is where Till can find his path to victory, by pushing the pace and closing the distance with powerful and precise strikes. Thompson’s front leg kicks can be predictable, so much so that Woodley was able to catch one into a takedown down and do damage. Wonderboy seems to struggle with pressure, but is comfortable going the distance in his fights, and point fighting his way to victory.

    Ultimately, I think Till’s age advantage, fearlessness, and explosiveness will allow him to push the pace and close the distance, and eventually finish Thompson as he keeps his hands low. If the fight goes the distance, Till’s aggressiveness and slight edge in significant striking accuracy should get him the hometown decision win.

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    The first UFC event ever to take place in Liverpool will be capped off with a bout between two high level strikers in the Welterweight division. Undefeated rising star Darren Till is set to face the two-time title challenger Stephen Thompson in the main event of UFC Fight Night 130.

    Stephen “Wonderboy” Thompson was forced into this match against Till. He wanted to fight Rafael dos Anjos who is facing Colby Covington, to get back into title contention. Going into his 18th MMA match, after going 57-0 in kickboxing, there is a lot of fight milage on his body. At 35 years old, after being rocked badly in his last two fights, you start to think he is on a decline. At his level, with his style, Wonderboy has reached a plateau skill wise whereas his opponent Till is 25 years old and is still developing and growing considerably in between fights. Although Thompson has gone 25 minutes twice with the current Welterweight champion, this is arguably the best striker he’s ever faced, in a young and hungry Till.

    Fighting in his hometown, Darren “The Gorilla” Till, is a master of distance, similar to Thompson, however with explosive power. He looks to find the openings by throwing feints and controlling the center of the octagon. What Wonderboy referred to as “predictable” are very hard and accurate straight lefts and rights, a fast jab cross, and damaging elbows. Till has the self confidence and fearlessness it takes to be an elite fighter, which allows him to push the pace early as he showed in his last fight against Cerrone. As far as accuracy of significant strikes, Till lands 52.35% compared to Thompson’s 44.01%.

    Stylistically, Thompson is a Karate style fighter who stands sideways and keeps his hands low while using his front leg sidekick to keep distance, and Till is a Muay Thai style striker who closes the distance with explosiveness to do damage. Looking at Thompson’s last two fights against Woodley, he struggled when Tyron decided to push the pace, and especially when Woodley threw his straight right which knocked Wonderboy down. The same straight right from Ellenberger knocked him down earlier in his career as well. This is where Till can find his path to victory, by pushing the pace and closing the distance with powerful and precise strikes. Thompson’s front leg kicks can be predictable, so much so that Woodley was able to catch one into a takedown down and do damage. Wonderboy seems to struggle with pressure, but is comfortable going the distance in his fights, and point fighting his way to victory.

    Ultimately, I think Till’s age advantage, fearlessness, and explosiveness will allow him to push the pace and close the distance, and eventually finish Thompson as he keeps his hands low. If the fight goes the distance, Till’s aggressiveness and slight edge in significant striking accuracy should get him the hometown decision win.

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    Thompson has been very dismissive of Till, especially considering he didn't want to take this fight which ultimately resulted in him negotiating a bigger contract with the UFC.

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    Thompson has been very dismissive of Till, especially considering he didn't want to take this fight which ultimately resulted in him negotiating a bigger contract with the UFC.

     
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    Darren Till weighed in at 174.5 pounds earlier today, 3.5 over the limit. The fight is still on however Till cannot weigh over 188 lbs at 1pm tomorrow. The difference between Till and Thompson is the UFC had to persuade Thompson with a bigger contract for him to take this fight, and Till on the other hand, even offered Thompson his entire fight purse after missing weight today.

     

    It is interesting to note the trend this year for UFC fighters who missed weight: all 6 fighters who missed weight in 2018 won their fight.

     

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    Darren Till weighed in at 174.5 pounds earlier today, 3.5 over the limit. The fight is still on however Till cannot weigh over 188 lbs at 1pm tomorrow. The difference between Till and Thompson is the UFC had to persuade Thompson with a bigger contract for him to take this fight, and Till on the other hand, even offered Thompson his entire fight purse after missing weight today.

     

    It is interesting to note the trend this year for UFC fighters who missed weight: all 6 fighters who missed weight in 2018 won their fight.

     

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    I believe till is on the rise to superstardom but Thompson is a huge step up in class , till has only really beaten up a declining cowboy who’s jaw is completely gone . Thompson has also knocked out the current welterweight champ and beaten a who’s who on the ufc roster , arguably beaten the current champ Woodley . I like till , his confidence is huge and hometown boy will surely bring out the best in him , but to soon for me , going Thompson , maybe decision result as well 

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    I believe till is on the rise to superstardom but Thompson is a huge step up in class , till has only really beaten up a declining cowboy who’s jaw is completely gone . Thompson has also knocked out the current welterweight champ and beaten a who’s who on the ufc roster , arguably beaten the current champ Woodley . I like till , his confidence is huge and hometown boy will surely bring out the best in him , but to soon for me , going Thompson , maybe decision result as well 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiejesse:

    I believe till is on the rise to superstardom but Thompson is a huge step up in class , till has only really beaten up a declining cowboy who’s jaw is completely gone . Thompson has also knocked out the current welterweight champ and beaten a who’s who on the ufc roster , arguably beaten the current champ Woodley . I like till , his confidence is huge and hometown boy will surely bring out the best in him , but to soon for me , going Thompson , maybe decision result as well

     

    If you're referring to when Stephen Thompson KO'ed Robert Whittaker over 4 years ago when Robert was only 23 years old, then you have to realize that Whittaker went up to Middleweight one fight after and has improved significantly since that loss. Also, Thompson did not beat Woodley in either of their fights, and was very close to being finished himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiejesse:

    I believe till is on the rise to superstardom but Thompson is a huge step up in class , till has only really beaten up a declining cowboy who’s jaw is completely gone . Thompson has also knocked out the current welterweight champ and beaten a who’s who on the ufc roster , arguably beaten the current champ Woodley . I like till , his confidence is huge and hometown boy will surely bring out the best in him , but to soon for me , going Thompson , maybe decision result as well

     

    If you're referring to when Stephen Thompson KO'ed Robert Whittaker over 4 years ago when Robert was only 23 years old, then you have to realize that Whittaker went up to Middleweight one fight after and has improved significantly since that loss. Also, Thompson did not beat Woodley in either of their fights, and was very close to being finished himself.

     
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    Congrats on the pick mate , I thought it could of gone either way , hometown crowd influence vocally maybe a factor , but well done , geez he s a big guy for the weight class 

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    Congrats on the pick mate , I thought it could of gone either way , hometown crowd influence vocally maybe a factor , but well done , geez he s a big guy for the weight class 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiejesse:

    Congrats on the pick mate , I thought it could of gone either way , hometown crowd influence vocally maybe a factor , but well done , geez he s a big guy for the weight class 


    Thanks Aussiejesse. Although it was a close fight, the right decision was made. The knockdown in the 5th round only solidified the win. The only thing I don't agree with is looking over the official scorecards, two of the judges scored it 49-46 in favor of Till and one 48-47. This was too close of a fight to have a 49-46 score for either fighter. 

    Most of the fight was spent with the fighters trying to figure out each others style, with Till starting to put it together in the last two rounds. Although Till moving up to Middleweight is very likely in the future, there's a good chance we see a rematch of this fight where I wouldn't be surprised to see Till win in dominant fashion.
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    Congrats on the pick mate , I thought it could of gone either way , hometown crowd influence vocally maybe a factor , but well done , geez he s a big guy for the weight class 


    Thanks Aussiejesse. Although it was a close fight, the right decision was made. The knockdown in the 5th round only solidified the win. The only thing I don't agree with is looking over the official scorecards, two of the judges scored it 49-46 in favor of Till and one 48-47. This was too close of a fight to have a 49-46 score for either fighter. 

    Most of the fight was spent with the fighters trying to figure out each others style, with Till starting to put it together in the last two rounds. Although Till moving up to Middleweight is very likely in the future, there's a good chance we see a rematch of this fight where I wouldn't be surprised to see Till win in dominant fashion.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    The first UFC event ever to take place in Liverpool will be capped off with a bout between two high level strikers in the Welterweight division. Undefeated rising star Darren Till is set to face the two-time title challenger Stephen Thompson in the main event of UFC Fight Night 130.

    Stephen “Wonderboy” Thompson was forced into this match against Till. He wanted to fight Rafael dos Anjos who is facing Colby Covington, to get back into title contention. Going into his 18th MMA match, after going 57-0 in kickboxing, there is a lot of fight milage on his body. At 35 years old, after being rocked badly in his last two fights, you start to think he is on a decline. At his level, with his style, Wonderboy has reached a plateau skill wise whereas his opponent Till is 25 years old and is still developing and growing considerably in between fights. Although Thompson has gone 25 minutes twice with the current Welterweight champion, this is arguably the best striker he’s ever faced, in a young and hungry Till.

    Fighting in his hometown, Darren “The Gorilla” Till, is a master of distance, similar to Thompson, however with explosive power. He looks to find the openings by throwing feints and controlling the center of the octagon. What Wonderboy referred to as “predictable” are very hard and accurate straight lefts and rights, a fast jab cross, and damaging elbows. Till has the self confidence and fearlessness it takes to be an elite fighter, which allows him to push the pace early as he showed in his last fight against Cerrone. As far as accuracy of significant strikes, Till lands 52.35% compared to Thompson’s 44.01%.

    Stylistically, Thompson is a Karate style fighter who stands sideways and keeps his hands low while using his front leg sidekick to keep distance, and Till is a Muay Thai style striker who closes the distance with explosiveness to do damage. Looking at Thompson’s last two fights against Woodley, he struggled when Tyron decided to push the pace, and especially when Woodley threw his straight right which knocked Wonderboy down. The same straight right from Ellenberger knocked him down earlier in his career as well. This is where Till can find his path to victory, by pushing the pace and closing the distance with powerful and precise strikes. Thompson’s front leg kicks can be predictable, so much so that Woodley was able to catch one into a takedown down and do damage. Wonderboy seems to struggle with pressure, but is comfortable going the distance in his fights, and point fighting his way to victory.

    Ultimately, I think Till’s age advantage, fearlessness, and explosiveness will allow him to push the pace and close the distance, and eventually finish Thompson as he keeps his hands low. If the fight goes the distance, Till’s aggressiveness and slight edge in significant striking accuracy should get him the hometown decision win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    The first UFC event ever to take place in Liverpool will be capped off with a bout between two high level strikers in the Welterweight division. Undefeated rising star Darren Till is set to face the two-time title challenger Stephen Thompson in the main event of UFC Fight Night 130.

    Stephen “Wonderboy” Thompson was forced into this match against Till. He wanted to fight Rafael dos Anjos who is facing Colby Covington, to get back into title contention. Going into his 18th MMA match, after going 57-0 in kickboxing, there is a lot of fight milage on his body. At 35 years old, after being rocked badly in his last two fights, you start to think he is on a decline. At his level, with his style, Wonderboy has reached a plateau skill wise whereas his opponent Till is 25 years old and is still developing and growing considerably in between fights. Although Thompson has gone 25 minutes twice with the current Welterweight champion, this is arguably the best striker he’s ever faced, in a young and hungry Till.

    Fighting in his hometown, Darren “The Gorilla” Till, is a master of distance, similar to Thompson, however with explosive power. He looks to find the openings by throwing feints and controlling the center of the octagon. What Wonderboy referred to as “predictable” are very hard and accurate straight lefts and rights, a fast jab cross, and damaging elbows. Till has the self confidence and fearlessness it takes to be an elite fighter, which allows him to push the pace early as he showed in his last fight against Cerrone. As far as accuracy of significant strikes, Till lands 52.35% compared to Thompson’s 44.01%.

    Stylistically, Thompson is a Karate style fighter who stands sideways and keeps his hands low while using his front leg sidekick to keep distance, and Till is a Muay Thai style striker who closes the distance with explosiveness to do damage. Looking at Thompson’s last two fights against Woodley, he struggled when Tyron decided to push the pace, and especially when Woodley threw his straight right which knocked Wonderboy down. The same straight right from Ellenberger knocked him down earlier in his career as well. This is where Till can find his path to victory, by pushing the pace and closing the distance with powerful and precise strikes. Thompson’s front leg kicks can be predictable, so much so that Woodley was able to catch one into a takedown down and do damage. Wonderboy seems to struggle with pressure, but is comfortable going the distance in his fights, and point fighting his way to victory.

    Ultimately, I think Till’s age advantage, fearlessness, and explosiveness will allow him to push the pace and close the distance, and eventually finish Thompson as he keeps his hands low. If the fight goes the distance, Till’s aggressiveness and slight edge in significant striking accuracy should get him the hometown decision win.

    Darren Till (+140) 
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