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    UFC 230: Cormier vs. Lewis (11/3/18)

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    UFC 230

    Venue: Madison Square Garden
    Location: New York City, New York
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    UFC 230

    Venue: Madison Square Garden
    Location: New York City, New York
     
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    Pay Per View - Main Card - 10:00 PM ET
    Daniel Cormier vs Derrick Lewis
    Chris Weidman vs Ronaldo Souza
    David Branch vs Jared Cannonier
    Karl Roberson vs Jack Marshman
    Derek Brunson vs Israel Adesanya
    FS1 - Prelims - 8:00 PM ET
    Jason Knight vs Jordan Rinaldi
    Sijara Eubanks vs Roxanne Modafferi
    Julio Arce vs Sheymon Moraes
    Lyman Good vs Ben Saunders
    UFC Fight Pass - Early Prelims - 6:30 PM ET
    Matt Frevola vs Lando Vannata
    Shane Burgos vs Kurt Holobaugh
    Brian Kelleher vs Montel Jackson
    Ruslan Magomedov vs Marcos Rogerio De Lima
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    Pay Per View - Main Card - 10:00 PM ET
    Daniel Cormier vs Derrick Lewis
    Chris Weidman vs Ronaldo Souza
    David Branch vs Jared Cannonier
    Karl Roberson vs Jack Marshman
    Derek Brunson vs Israel Adesanya
    FS1 - Prelims - 8:00 PM ET
    Jason Knight vs Jordan Rinaldi
    Sijara Eubanks vs Roxanne Modafferi
    Julio Arce vs Sheymon Moraes
    Lyman Good vs Ben Saunders
    UFC Fight Pass - Early Prelims - 6:30 PM ET
    Matt Frevola vs Lando Vannata
    Shane Burgos vs Kurt Holobaugh
    Brian Kelleher vs Montel Jackson
    Ruslan Magomedov vs Marcos Rogerio De Lima
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2018 - 9:19 PM ET #3

    Opening Odds (5Dimes)

    Daniel Cormier (-900)
    Derrick Lewis (+500)

    Chris Weidman (-125)
    Ronaldo Souza (-105)

    David Branch (-300)
    Jared Cannonier (+220)

    Karl Roberson (+145)
    Jack Marshman (-185)

    Derek Brunson (+180)
    Israel Adesanya (-260)

    Jason Knight (-230)
    Jordan Rinaldi (+170)

    Sijara Eubanks (-380)
    Roxanne Modafferi (+260)

    Julio Arce (-165)
    Sheymon Moraes (+125)

    Lyman Good
    Ben Saunders

    Matt Frevola (+205)
    Lando Vannata (-285)

    Shane Burgos (-300)
    Kurt Holobaugh (+220)

    Brian Kelleher (-185)
    Montel Jackson (+145)

    Ruslan Magomedov (-380)
    Marcos Rogerio De Lima (+260)
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    Opening Odds (5Dimes)

    Daniel Cormier (-900)
    Derrick Lewis (+500)

    Chris Weidman (-125)
    Ronaldo Souza (-105)

    David Branch (-300)
    Jared Cannonier (+220)

    Karl Roberson (+145)
    Jack Marshman (-185)

    Derek Brunson (+180)
    Israel Adesanya (-260)

    Jason Knight (-230)
    Jordan Rinaldi (+170)

    Sijara Eubanks (-380)
    Roxanne Modafferi (+260)

    Julio Arce (-165)
    Sheymon Moraes (+125)

    Lyman Good
    Ben Saunders

    Matt Frevola (+205)
    Lando Vannata (-285)

    Shane Burgos (-300)
    Kurt Holobaugh (+220)

    Brian Kelleher (-185)
    Montel Jackson (+145)

    Ruslan Magomedov (-380)
    Marcos Rogerio De Lima (+260)
     
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    This main event is a joke. DC outclasses him by 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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    This main event is a joke. DC outclasses him by 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skanless1:

    This main event is a joke. DC outclasses him by 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
    a joke smh, sure DC has big advantage but he's the number 1 contender

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skanless1:

    This main event is a joke. DC outclasses him by 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
    a joke smh, sure DC has big advantage but he's the number 1 contender

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayoh:

    a joke smh, sure DC has big advantage but he's the number 1 contender


    Ok bro. Not sure how much UFC you've watched, but these 2 fighters are not on the same level.  The ONLY thing Lewis has going for him is 1 punch knockout power. And even then, his stand up is SUPER sloppy, and he barely has any ground game.  This fight is a complete mismatch IMO. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayoh:

    a joke smh, sure DC has big advantage but he's the number 1 contender


    Ok bro. Not sure how much UFC you've watched, but these 2 fighters are not on the same level.  The ONLY thing Lewis has going for him is 1 punch knockout power. And even then, his stand up is SUPER sloppy, and he barely has any ground game.  This fight is a complete mismatch IMO. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2018 - 3:37 PM ET #8

    Of course Cormier is the superior athlete of the two, but this fight is contested in the Heavyweight division where one punch can knock a man unconscious and Lewis definetly hits harder than DC. 

    Expect a similar approach from DC as when he fought Anthony Johnson.
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    Of course Cormier is the superior athlete of the two, but this fight is contested in the Heavyweight division where one punch can knock a man unconscious and Lewis definetly hits harder than DC. 

    Expect a similar approach from DC as when he fought Anthony Johnson.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2018 - 3:44 PM ET #9

    Bisping and Florian sit down interview with Derrick Lewis a couple days ago.

     

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    Bisping and Florian sit down interview with Derrick Lewis a couple days ago.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Of course Cormier is the superior athlete of the two, but this fight is contested in the Heavyweight division where one punch can knock a man unconscious and Lewis definetly hits harder than DC. 

    Expect a similar approach from DC as when he fought Anthony Johnson.

    Yep, I get that Lewis has 1 punch knockout power.  I just think his standup is REALLY sloppy, and he's been picked apart by lesser strikers than DC.  I know that standup isn't necessarily DC's strength, but I feel he just has WAY more ways to win than Lewis.  Part of my feeling about this fight has to do with my belief that Stipe should've been given a rematch vs Lewis getting a shot, but I may be biased. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by straight_cash:

    Of course Cormier is the superior athlete of the two, but this fight is contested in the Heavyweight division where one punch can knock a man unconscious and Lewis definetly hits harder than DC. 

    Expect a similar approach from DC as when he fought Anthony Johnson.

    Yep, I get that Lewis has 1 punch knockout power.  I just think his standup is REALLY sloppy, and he's been picked apart by lesser strikers than DC.  I know that standup isn't necessarily DC's strength, but I feel he just has WAY more ways to win than Lewis.  Part of my feeling about this fight has to do with my belief that Stipe should've been given a rematch vs Lewis getting a shot, but I may be biased. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2018 - 4:05 PM ET #11

    And sorry straightcash. Don't mean to hijack your thread, and your knowledge of MMA is definitely superior to mine.. just sharing my thoughts. 
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    And sorry straightcash. Don't mean to hijack your thread, and your knowledge of MMA is definitely superior to mine.. just sharing my thoughts. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2018 - 4:06 PM ET #12

    Also, looks like i messed up the formatting with all my 0s above. 
    I'm sorry. Hate when that happens. 
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    Also, looks like i messed up the formatting with all my 0s above. 
    I'm sorry. Hate when that happens. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2018 - 4:58 PM ET #13

    Agree with you as Cormier does have more ways to win. It sounds like he's taking this fight on short notice so he can stick to his final two fight plan, the second of which being against Brock Lesnar and then retiring. Lewis has nothing to lose in this spot, and my understanding is that DC's hand is still not fully recovered from the Miocic fight.

    The whole point of the thread is to get some conversation and insight going on the card's matchups, so no worries Skanless. Not sure why the formatting gets messed up like that as I prefer to use the old format but it looks fine when you switch it to the new format.
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    Agree with you as Cormier does have more ways to win. It sounds like he's taking this fight on short notice so he can stick to his final two fight plan, the second of which being against Brock Lesnar and then retiring. Lewis has nothing to lose in this spot, and my understanding is that DC's hand is still not fully recovered from the Miocic fight.

    The whole point of the thread is to get some conversation and insight going on the card's matchups, so no worries Skanless. Not sure why the formatting gets messed up like that as I prefer to use the old format but it looks fine when you switch it to the new format.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2018 - 7:42 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Skanless1:

    Quote Originally Posted by jayoh:

    a joke smh, sure DC has big advantage but he's the number 1 contender
    Ok bro. Not sure how much UFC you've watched, but these 2 fighters are not on the same level.  The ONLY thing Lewis has going for him is 1 punch knockout power. And even then, his stand up is SUPER sloppy, and he barely has any ground game.  This fight is a complete mismatch IMO.
    More then you , I said that DC was superior. Yeah losing agianst Browne koed stiffed one punch same with volkov, same with mrycin, but he won all the fights it's about rankings . And he is the #1 contender, sure Stipe could get a rematch but he was koed stiffed in the first round and dc admitted this week he woilw not have fought this card against Stipe on short notice. So with Stipe off it goes to who's the #1 contender and wither you like it or not he is that. Sure DC gonna win and is close to a -1000 fav but joke is going far been many #1 contenders been vastly outmatched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayoh:

    a joke smh, sure DC has big advantage but he's the number 1 contender
    Ok bro. Not sure how much UFC you've watched, but these 2 fighters are not on the same level.  The ONLY thing Lewis has going for him is 1 punch knockout power. And even then, his stand up is SUPER sloppy, and he barely has any ground game.  This fight is a complete mismatch IMO.
    More then you , I said that DC was superior. Yeah losing agianst Browne koed stiffed one punch same with volkov, same with mrycin, but he won all the fights it's about rankings . And he is the #1 contender, sure Stipe could get a rematch but he was koed stiffed in the first round and dc admitted this week he woilw not have fought this card against Stipe on short notice. So with Stipe off it goes to who's the #1 contender and wither you like it or not he is that. Sure DC gonna win and is close to a -1000 fav but joke is going far been many #1 contenders been vastly outmatched.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2018 - 7:44 PM ET #15

    More then half of Mighty mouse title defenses are joke of a fight as well then. Same with cyborg all jokes.

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    More then half of Mighty mouse title defenses are joke of a fight as well then. Same with cyborg all jokes.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2018 - 3:19 PM ET #16

    Hope DC gets KTFOan_punchPound for pound champ my butt. He needed Jones to get popped and stripped to be LHW champ and that Miocic fight was BS the way he lead with his hands open. Wonder where he learned that move...DC will retire that way he can make himself believe he was/is the greatest ever and Bones cheated to beat him and to never have to face that guy ever ever again

    This fight is a mismatch in every way possible but these are HW's so nothing is a given. Lewis looks so sloppy sometimes and you'd have to think DC will be much quicker and will look to take him down with trips and wear out the beast. May try the +500 on fight night but hard not to see DC not getting the W

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    Hope DC gets KTFOan_punchPound for pound champ my butt. He needed Jones to get popped and stripped to be LHW champ and that Miocic fight was BS the way he lead with his hands open. Wonder where he learned that move...DC will retire that way he can make himself believe he was/is the greatest ever and Bones cheated to beat him and to never have to face that guy ever ever again

    This fight is a mismatch in every way possible but these are HW's so nothing is a given. Lewis looks so sloppy sometimes and you'd have to think DC will be much quicker and will look to take him down with trips and wear out the beast. May try the +500 on fight night but hard not to see DC not getting the W

     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2018 - 3:22 PM ET #17

    And yes Stipe without a doubt deserved a rematch but Dana doesn't think he is marketable enough.

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    And yes Stipe without a doubt deserved a rematch but Dana doesn't think he is marketable enough.

     
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    It’s crazy how most people including DC think Lewis stands little to no chance in this fight.

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    It’s crazy how most people including DC think Lewis stands little to no chance in this fight.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2018 - 6:34 PM ET #19

    UFC 531-351-13

    2017 235-188-8

    2018 220-118-2


    UFC 230


    Early Prelims
    Adam Wieczorek (-185)
    Montel Jackson (-135)
    Shane Burgos (-315)
    Matt Frevola (+230)
    Prelims
    Lyman Good (-600)
    Sheymon Moraes (+220)
    Sijara Eubanks (-500)
    Jason Knight (-250)
    Main Card
    Israel Adesanya (-260)
    Karl Roberson (-285)
    David Branch (-310)
    Ronaldo Souza (+145)
    Derrick Lewis (+520)
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    UFC 531-351-13

    2017 235-188-8

    2018 220-118-2


    UFC 230


    Early Prelims
    Adam Wieczorek (-185)
    Montel Jackson (-135)
    Shane Burgos (-315)
    Matt Frevola (+230)
    Prelims
    Lyman Good (-600)
    Sheymon Moraes (+220)
    Sijara Eubanks (-500)
    Jason Knight (-250)
    Main Card
    Israel Adesanya (-260)
    Karl Roberson (-285)
    David Branch (-310)
    Ronaldo Souza (+145)
    Derrick Lewis (+520)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2018 - 1:01 AM ET #20

    Jacare! What a fight. 
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    UFC 230


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    Montel Jackson (-135) NA
    Shane Burgos (-315)
    Matt Frevola (+230) NA
    Prelims
    Lyman Good (-600)
    Sheymon Moraes (+220)
    Sijara Eubanks (-500)
    Jason Knight (-250)
    Main Card
    Israel Adesanya (-260)
    Karl Roberson (-285)
    David Branch (-310)
    Ronaldo Souza (+145)
    Derrick Lewis (+520)
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    UFC 230


    Early Prelims
    Adam Wieczorek (-185)
    Montel Jackson (-135) NA
    Shane Burgos (-315)
    Matt Frevola (+230) NA
    Prelims
    Lyman Good (-600)
    Sheymon Moraes (+220)
    Sijara Eubanks (-500)
    Jason Knight (-250)
    Main Card
    Israel Adesanya (-260)
    Karl Roberson (-285)
    David Branch (-310)
    Ronaldo Souza (+145)
    Derrick Lewis (+520)
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