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    UFC 183 Tim Boetsch 4.60 Is Incredible Value!!!

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    Mars101
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 3:16 PM ET #1

    Another event, another win! 3-0 on low juice plays and ready to bang out another winner for UFC 183. Friend has done his due diligence with a quick turnaround we have UFC 183. He's pointed out a juicy gift from the bookies with Tim Boetsch @ 4.60. He asserts that the line is wrong and this line is just way too incredible to pass up. He believe Thales Leites is overrated and that Boetsch has enough tools to likely come out with the win.

    Tim Boetsch 4.60 (The line will get worse so hit it early)

    About to make it 4-0 (Low Vig Plays)


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    Another event, another win! 3-0 on low juice plays and ready to bang out another winner for UFC 183. Friend has done his due diligence with a quick turnaround we have UFC 183. He's pointed out a juicy gift from the bookies with Tim Boetsch @ 4.60. He asserts that the line is wrong and this line is just way too incredible to pass up. He believe Thales Leites is overrated and that Boetsch has enough tools to likely come out with the win.

    Tim Boetsch 4.60 (The line will get worse so hit it early)

    About to make it 4-0 (Low Vig Plays)


     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 5:30 PM ET #2

    Don't let this poster fool you.  He is not 3-0.

    Here is a link to his first thread: 
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102021019


    He is posting for attention, and not keeping an accurate record.  

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    Don't let this poster fool you.  He is not 3-0.

    Here is a link to his first thread: 
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102021019


    He is posting for attention, and not keeping an accurate record.  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 25, 2015 - 7:17 PM ET #3

    this year he is 3-0 sharp...0-1 last yr with the gagon play
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    this year he is 3-0 sharp...0-1 last yr with the gagon play
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 12:57 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Coreyccr:

    this year he is 3-0 sharp...0-1 last yr with the gagon play

    I'm well aware of when the fights occurred.  

    But it is pretty obvious about what he is trying to do here, with his deceiving posters.  He termed his most recent plays as "low vig" plays to avoid the loss on Gagnon.

    Don't buy into the nonsense.  Everything has been posted and documented, including his "inside information" play on Gagnon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coreyccr:

    this year he is 3-0 sharp...0-1 last yr with the gagon play

    I'm well aware of when the fights occurred.  

    But it is pretty obvious about what he is trying to do here, with his deceiving posters.  He termed his most recent plays as "low vig" plays to avoid the loss on Gagnon.

    Don't buy into the nonsense.  Everything has been posted and documented, including his "inside information" play on Gagnon.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 5:02 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:


    I'm well aware of when the fights occurred.  

    But it is pretty obvious about what he is trying to do here, with his deceiving posters.  He termed his most recent plays as "low vig" plays to avoid the loss on Gagnon.

    Don't buy into the nonsense.  Everything has been posted and documented, including his "inside information" play on Gagnon.

    This is true.  By his terminology, this underdog bet on Boetsch would not make him 4-0, because it is not a "low vig play" whatever that is.  It is a big underdog, like Gagnon was.
     
    Regardless, I will have to say the picks have been profitable so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:


    I'm well aware of when the fights occurred.  

    But it is pretty obvious about what he is trying to do here, with his deceiving posters.  He termed his most recent plays as "low vig" plays to avoid the loss on Gagnon.

    Don't buy into the nonsense.  Everything has been posted and documented, including his "inside information" play on Gagnon.

    This is true.  By his terminology, this underdog bet on Boetsch would not make him 4-0, because it is not a "low vig play" whatever that is.  It is a big underdog, like Gagnon was.
     
    Regardless, I will have to say the picks have been profitable so far.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2015 - 5:22 PM ET #6

    Down to plus 350 on one site, plus 340 on the other.
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    Down to plus 350 on one site, plus 340 on the other.
     
    Mars101
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2015 - 6:09 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:

    Don't let this poster fool you.  He is not 3-0.

    Nice try shiiitstick. 

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102026635
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102038567
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102049692

    This is the breakdown of my picks:

    -Brad Tavares 1.63
    -Lorenz Larkin 2.17
    -Kenny Robertson 1.80
    -Kenny Robertson 2.70 (Added more where I saw more value!)

    1 Unit = $100

    Had you followed my sharp picks shiiitstick you would have profited $430.29

    Now who's jealous? Just admit it's killing you inside that I can pick winners and you're absolutely terrible at MMA capping!

    Keep hating chump.
      shiiitstick 


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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:

    Don't let this poster fool you.  He is not 3-0.

    Nice try shiiitstick. 

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102026635
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102038567
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102049692

    This is the breakdown of my picks:

    -Brad Tavares 1.63
    -Lorenz Larkin 2.17
    -Kenny Robertson 1.80
    -Kenny Robertson 2.70 (Added more where I saw more value!)

    1 Unit = $100

    Had you followed my sharp picks shiiitstick you would have profited $430.29

    Now who's jealous? Just admit it's killing you inside that I can pick winners and you're absolutely terrible at MMA capping!

    Keep hating chump.
      shiiitstick 


     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2015 - 10:16 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars101:


    Nice try shiiitstick. 

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102026635
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102038567
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102049692

    This is the breakdown of my picks:

    -Brad Tavares 1.63
    -Lorenz Larkin 2.17
    -Kenny Robertson 1.80
    -Kenny Robertson 2.70 (Added more where I saw more value!)

    1 Unit = $100

    Had you followed my sharp picks shiiitstick you would have profited $430.29

    Now who's jealous? Just admit it's killing you inside that I can pick winners and you're absolutely terrible at MMA capping!

    Keep hating chump.
      shiiitstick 




    Care to explain this thread:
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102021019

    You know, the thread in which you claim inside information on, and prod readers to "give credit where credit is due after the fight"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars101:


    Nice try shiiitstick. 

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102026635
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102038567
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102049692

    This is the breakdown of my picks:

    -Brad Tavares 1.63
    -Lorenz Larkin 2.17
    -Kenny Robertson 1.80
    -Kenny Robertson 2.70 (Added more where I saw more value!)

    1 Unit = $100

    Had you followed my sharp picks shiiitstick you would have profited $430.29

    Now who's jealous? Just admit it's killing you inside that I can pick winners and you're absolutely terrible at MMA capping!

    Keep hating chump.
      shiiitstick 




    Care to explain this thread:
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102021019

    You know, the thread in which you claim inside information on, and prod readers to "give credit where credit is due after the fight"


     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2015 - 10:44 AM ET #9

    If the Tavares and Okami fights teach us anything, it's that Boetsch is never out of a fight. Boetsch has decent TDD in comparison to leites's takedown ability. Leites has improved striking, but that Boetsch power is scary for sure. From a betting perspective, it's dog or pass IMO. I'll probably pass, but good luck.
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    If the Tavares and Okami fights teach us anything, it's that Boetsch is never out of a fight. Boetsch has decent TDD in comparison to leites's takedown ability. Leites has improved striking, but that Boetsch power is scary for sure. From a betting perspective, it's dog or pass IMO. I'll probably pass, but good luck.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:



    Care to explain this thread:
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102021019

    You know, the thread in which you claim inside information on, and prod readers to "give credit where credit is due after the fight"




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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:



    Care to explain this thread:
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=212&sub=102021019

    You know, the thread in which you claim inside information on, and prod readers to "give credit where credit is due after the fight"




     
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

    If the Tavares and Okami fights teach us anything, it's that Boetsch is never out of a fight. Boetsch has decent TDD in comparison to leites's takedown ability. Leites has improved striking, but that Boetsch power is scary for sure. From a betting perspective, it's dog or pass IMO. I'll probably pass, but good luck.

    I'm not only playing this fight on account of the immense value of Boetsch but I have a strong lean from someone who I have extreme confidence in. Told me a few things regarding the 2 fighters that will become apparent when fight happens

    Cheers  


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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

    If the Tavares and Okami fights teach us anything, it's that Boetsch is never out of a fight. Boetsch has decent TDD in comparison to leites's takedown ability. Leites has improved striking, but that Boetsch power is scary for sure. From a betting perspective, it's dog or pass IMO. I'll probably pass, but good luck.

    I'm not only playing this fight on account of the immense value of Boetsch but I have a strong lean from someone who I have extreme confidence in. Told me a few things regarding the 2 fighters that will become apparent when fight happens

    Cheers  


     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2015 - 5:40 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars101:

    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

    If the Tavares and Okami fights teach us anything, it's that Boetsch is never out of a fight. Boetsch has decent TDD in comparison to leites's takedown ability. Leites has improved striking, but that Boetsch power is scary for sure. From a betting perspective, it's dog or pass IMO. I'll probably pass, but good luck.
    I'm not only playing this fight on account of the immense value of Boetsch but I have a strong lean from someone who I have extreme confidence in. Told me a few things regarding the 2 fighters that will become apparent when fight happensCheers


    Would you be willing to share what information said friend advised you with?

    On the other end of the spectrum, Leites has looked great lately with 7 wins in a row. Boetsch has had a shaky recent history - come from behind against Tavares, got styled on by Rockhold, was gifted a decision in a robbery against dolloway, crushed my Munoz, dominated by Phillipou, gifted a boring decision to Lombard, come from behind against Yushin. It's been nearly 4 years since he dominated a fight, against nick ring (oh no you didn't).

    I'm confident a power punch isn't out of the question, but Thales is years ahead in grappling and probably a little better striker at this point. I doubt Boetsch employs takedowns. What wins the fight? Clinch/cage control? Possible, but that gives Leites opps at trip takedowns which he's pretty good at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars101:

    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

    If the Tavares and Okami fights teach us anything, it's that Boetsch is never out of a fight. Boetsch has decent TDD in comparison to leites's takedown ability. Leites has improved striking, but that Boetsch power is scary for sure. From a betting perspective, it's dog or pass IMO. I'll probably pass, but good luck.
    I'm not only playing this fight on account of the immense value of Boetsch but I have a strong lean from someone who I have extreme confidence in. Told me a few things regarding the 2 fighters that will become apparent when fight happensCheers


    Would you be willing to share what information said friend advised you with?

    On the other end of the spectrum, Leites has looked great lately with 7 wins in a row. Boetsch has had a shaky recent history - come from behind against Tavares, got styled on by Rockhold, was gifted a decision in a robbery against dolloway, crushed my Munoz, dominated by Phillipou, gifted a boring decision to Lombard, come from behind against Yushin. It's been nearly 4 years since he dominated a fight, against nick ring (oh no you didn't).

    I'm confident a power punch isn't out of the question, but Thales is years ahead in grappling and probably a little better striker at this point. I doubt Boetsch employs takedowns. What wins the fight? Clinch/cage control? Possible, but that gives Leites opps at trip takedowns which he's pretty good at.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

     
    Would you be willing to share what information said friend advised you with?

     

    You gotta stop feeding this troll and his inside info.  

    You're better than that.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

     
    Would you be willing to share what information said friend advised you with?

     

    You gotta stop feeding this troll and his inside info.  

    You're better than that.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2015 - 6:31 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:

    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

    Would you be willing to share what information said friend advised you with?  
    You gotta stop feeding this troll and his inside info.  You're better than that.[/

    Really, I just want to give him the opportunity to stop all of his critics. If he gives solid info that ends up being true, the charade will stop and he can go on with his inside info stuff. Let's say he says his friend told him that "Boetsch, who never uses leg kicks, has been training nothing but leg kicks for this fight and will outpoint Leites with nothing but leg kicks". If that actually happened, I'd be willing to give the guy a break and I'm sure others would too. By asking the question, it gives him that opportunity. If he doesn't answer, I assume most reasonable people can deduct that he's a BS artist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:

    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

    Would you be willing to share what information said friend advised you with?  
    You gotta stop feeding this troll and his inside info.  You're better than that.[/

    Really, I just want to give him the opportunity to stop all of his critics. If he gives solid info that ends up being true, the charade will stop and he can go on with his inside info stuff. Let's say he says his friend told him that "Boetsch, who never uses leg kicks, has been training nothing but leg kicks for this fight and will outpoint Leites with nothing but leg kicks". If that actually happened, I'd be willing to give the guy a break and I'm sure others would too. By asking the question, it gives him that opportunity. If he doesn't answer, I assume most reasonable people can deduct that he's a BS artist.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2015 - 10:21 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

     If he doesn't answer, I assume most reasonable people can deduct that he's a BS artist.

    I like you, you're a great contributor to this forum. 

    But if you haven't already figured out that he is a BS artists, the joke is on you.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheO:

     If he doesn't answer, I assume most reasonable people can deduct that he's a BS artist.

    I like you, you're a great contributor to this forum. 

    But if you haven't already figured out that he is a BS artists, the joke is on you.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 8:12 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:


    I'm well aware of when the fights occurred.  

    But it is pretty obvious about what he is trying to do here, with his deceiving posters.  He termed his most recent plays as "low vig" plays to avoid the loss on Gagnon.

    Don't buy into the nonsense.  Everything has been posted and documented, including his "inside information" play on Gagnon.


     

    The info on Gagnon was very good. ( if it was info, if it was a feeling... even better ) Gagnon vs barao was a close fight until the 3rd round, which most people never saw coming. at one point I could have gotten mitch at 1 to win 10, THAT'S INSANE.

    If you think that good info his only when a 10 to 1 underdog wins, you don't understand value. I picked barao in that fight and I think after seeing the fight play out, that the smart play was Gagnon.

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    I'm well aware of when the fights occurred.  

    But it is pretty obvious about what he is trying to do here, with his deceiving posters.  He termed his most recent plays as "low vig" plays to avoid the loss on Gagnon.

    Don't buy into the nonsense.  Everything has been posted and documented, including his "inside information" play on Gagnon.


     

    The info on Gagnon was very good. ( if it was info, if it was a feeling... even better ) Gagnon vs barao was a close fight until the 3rd round, which most people never saw coming. at one point I could have gotten mitch at 1 to win 10, THAT'S INSANE.

    If you think that good info his only when a 10 to 1 underdog wins, you don't understand value. I picked barao in that fight and I think after seeing the fight play out, that the smart play was Gagnon.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 12:44 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by MMAwizard:

     

    The info on Gagnon was very good. ( if it was info, if it was a feeling... even better ) Gagnon vs barao was a close fight until the 3rd round, which most people never saw coming. at one point I could have gotten mitch at 1 to win 10, THAT'S INSANE.

    If you think that good info his only when a 10 to 1 underdog wins, you don't understand value. I picked barao in that fight and I think after seeing the fight play out, that the smart play was Gagnon.



    Yea, it was a real spot on assessment.  
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    The info on Gagnon was very good. ( if it was info, if it was a feeling... even better ) Gagnon vs barao was a close fight until the 3rd round, which most people never saw coming. at one point I could have gotten mitch at 1 to win 10, THAT'S INSANE.

    If you think that good info his only when a 10 to 1 underdog wins, you don't understand value. I picked barao in that fight and I think after seeing the fight play out, that the smart play was Gagnon.



    Yea, it was a real spot on assessment.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 2:34 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:



    Yea, it was a real spot on assessment.  

    .......? sorry I thought I was talking to an adult

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    Yea, it was a real spot on assessment.  

    .......? sorry I thought I was talking to an adult

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 2:44 PM ET #19

    Mars101 don't listen to people that are negative, I think that your 4 picks were good. But you should really count the Gagnon fight into your record. Don't see why you wouldn't

    And I think the Tim b his a good value bet, not saying it will win but at 4.8 against a guy that although a superior fighter, tim his a bad matchup for him.

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    Mars101 don't listen to people that are negative, I think that your 4 picks were good. But you should really count the Gagnon fight into your record. Don't see why you wouldn't

    And I think the Tim b his a good value bet, not saying it will win but at 4.8 against a guy that although a superior fighter, tim his a bad matchup for him.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 4:33 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by MMAwizard:

    .......? sorry I thought I was talking to an adult


    You are.  

    An adult can see through someone looking for attention with posting about inside information.  

    Someone who isn't an adult thinks "inside info" is good on a guy who got submitted.  Tell me how that works again....?
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    .......? sorry I thought I was talking to an adult


    You are.  

    An adult can see through someone looking for attention with posting about inside information.  

    Someone who isn't an adult thinks "inside info" is good on a guy who got submitted.  Tell me how that works again....?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 10:45 PM ET #21

    Well, since you don't count losses on your record, you're still a solid 3-0.......
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    Well, since you don't count losses on your record, you're still a solid 3-0.......
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 10:50 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:

    Well, since you don't count losses on your record, you're still a solid 3-0.......

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    Well, since you don't count losses on your record, you're still a solid 3-0.......

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 10:52 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick:

    Well, since you don't count losses on your record, you're still a solid 3-0.......

    The sun may have been in his eyes when he started this thread, so maybe the loss should not count...

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    Well, since you don't count losses on your record, you're still a solid 3-0.......

    The sun may have been in his eyes when he started this thread, so maybe the loss should not count...

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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2015 - 11:06 PM ET #24

    In his defense, Boetsch was winning the fight before he ended up on the bottom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by str8edgejedi:

    In his defense, Boetsch was winning the fight before he ended up on the bottom.


    How much did that pay for Boetsch bettors....?
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    In his defense, Boetsch was winning the fight before he ended up on the bottom.


    How much did that pay for Boetsch bettors....?
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