You obviously know nothing of mma, or you are a complete idiot. GSP by tko doctory stoppage...M_A_Y_B_E....RNC for GSP? tiring diaz? diaz agruably has better cardio than gsp fool...and whens the last time diaz was subbed? ever? dont worry...i'll wait..what a bafoon.
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You obviously know nothing of mma, or you are a complete idiot. GSP by tko doctory stoppage...M_A_Y_B_E....RNC for GSP? tiring diaz? diaz agruably has better cardio than gsp fool...and whens the last time diaz was subbed? ever? dont worry...i'll wait..what a bafoon.
Diaz does not have better cardio, dont give me that triathlon talk, gsp has been going 5rds for what seems like 10yrs, diaz has great cardio ima but i could see him getting frustrated and his back and going for something crazy and giving up his back. With those long odds its not like im calling it a lock just a good prob bet.
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Diaz does not have better cardio, dont give me that triathlon talk, gsp has been going 5rds for what seems like 10yrs, diaz has great cardio ima but i could see him getting frustrated and his back and going for something crazy and giving up his back. With those long odds its not like im calling it a lock just a good prob bet.
LOL at GSP finishing anyone. He couldn't finish the great Dan Hardy. Nor Jake Shields. Nor Koscheck.
The only possible way he finishes is a deep cut in which the doctor stops it. Which could happen, as GSP likes to use happy elbows and Diaz cuts fairly easy.
But GSP has zero chance of legitimately stopping Diaz. GSP is one of the worst finishers in the division. Diaz may be the hardest to finish.
Only time Diaz was ever stopped with a real stoppage was when he was a 19 year old kid.....lol
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LOL at GSP finishing anyone. He couldn't finish the great Dan Hardy. Nor Jake Shields. Nor Koscheck.
The only possible way he finishes is a deep cut in which the doctor stops it. Which could happen, as GSP likes to use happy elbows and Diaz cuts fairly easy.
But GSP has zero chance of legitimately stopping Diaz. GSP is one of the worst finishers in the division. Diaz may be the hardest to finish.
Only time Diaz was ever stopped with a real stoppage was when he was a 19 year old kid.....lol
Diaz does not have better cardio, dont give me that triathlon talk, gsp has been going 5rds for what seems like 10yrs, diaz has great cardio ima but i could see him getting frustrated and his back and going for something crazy and giving up his back. With those long odds its not like im calling it a lock just a good prob bet.
He had the amazing grappling specialist that is Dan Hardy in a full armbar and couldn't finish. I don't care if Diaz had 2 broken arms and GSP had his back...he still wouldn't finish.
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Quote Originally Posted by Hawkbadger:
Diaz does not have better cardio, dont give me that triathlon talk, gsp has been going 5rds for what seems like 10yrs, diaz has great cardio ima but i could see him getting frustrated and his back and going for something crazy and giving up his back. With those long odds its not like im calling it a lock just a good prob bet.
He had the amazing grappling specialist that is Dan Hardy in a full armbar and couldn't finish. I don't care if Diaz had 2 broken arms and GSP had his back...he still wouldn't finish.
He can cut him bad if it is a on top elbow fight. But the only possible way is a doctor says stop.
GSP's last 2 "stoppages" were vs. 155ers. 1 of them quit. The other was stopped due to turtling up and taking unanswered knees to the side. He hasn't legit stopped anyone since ufc 79 and not one opponent since is harder to stop than Diaz. And I don't think he has ever stopped a guy due to cuts.
GSP is a hugger. Nick won't win but he has too much pride and way too tough to get finished.
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He can cut him bad if it is a on top elbow fight. But the only possible way is a doctor says stop.
GSP's last 2 "stoppages" were vs. 155ers. 1 of them quit. The other was stopped due to turtling up and taking unanswered knees to the side. He hasn't legit stopped anyone since ufc 79 and not one opponent since is harder to stop than Diaz. And I don't think he has ever stopped a guy due to cuts.
GSP is a hugger. Nick won't win but he has too much pride and way too tough to get finished.
He can cut him bad if it is a on top elbow fight. But the only possible way is a doctor says stop.
GSP's last 2 "stoppages" were vs. 155ers. 1 of them quit. The other was stopped due to turtling up and taking unanswered knees to the side. He hasn't legit stopped anyone since ufc 79 and not one opponent since is harder to stop than Diaz. And I don't think he has ever stopped a guy due to cuts.
GSP is a hugger. Nick won't win but he has too much pride and way too tough to get finished.
Not saying I think he will stop box y mcshi tface tonight but were either these fights at 155? And the guy who quit, why was that? How is it not legit when guy wont come out to start final round?
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Quote Originally Posted by jonnyg4508:
He can cut him bad if it is a on top elbow fight. But the only possible way is a doctor says stop.
GSP's last 2 "stoppages" were vs. 155ers. 1 of them quit. The other was stopped due to turtling up and taking unanswered knees to the side. He hasn't legit stopped anyone since ufc 79 and not one opponent since is harder to stop than Diaz. And I don't think he has ever stopped a guy due to cuts.
GSP is a hugger. Nick won't win but he has too much pride and way too tough to get finished.
Not saying I think he will stop box y mcshi tface tonight but were either these fights at 155? And the guy who quit, why was that? How is it not legit when guy wont come out to start final round?
Not saying I think he will stop box y mcshi tface tonight but were either these fights at 155? And the guy who quit, why was that? How is it not legit when guy wont come out to start final round?
The fights were at 170. Doesn't mean Serra and BJ weren't way undersized for that division. It is why BJ Penn has sucked at 170...he is way too small.
BJ Penn is a quitter, and he gave up with his poor conditioning. That isn't a legit stoppage, if he had any heart he could of made it 1 more round.
As seen by last night....that was the best I have ever seen Diaz's face look after a "fight". GSP was easy money by decision. He is one of the worst finishers in the division....Nick is one of the hardest to finish in the UFC. If you do the math, it was evident what would happen.
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Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:
Not saying I think he will stop box y mcshi tface tonight but were either these fights at 155? And the guy who quit, why was that? How is it not legit when guy wont come out to start final round?
The fights were at 170. Doesn't mean Serra and BJ weren't way undersized for that division. It is why BJ Penn has sucked at 170...he is way too small.
BJ Penn is a quitter, and he gave up with his poor conditioning. That isn't a legit stoppage, if he had any heart he could of made it 1 more round.
As seen by last night....that was the best I have ever seen Diaz's face look after a "fight". GSP was easy money by decision. He is one of the worst finishers in the division....Nick is one of the hardest to finish in the UFC. If you do the math, it was evident what would happen.
The fights were at 170. Doesn't mean Serra and BJ weren't way undersized for that division. It is why BJ Penn has sucked at 170...he is way too small.
BJ Penn is a quitter, and he gave up with his poor conditioning. That isn't a legit stoppage, if he had any heart he could of made it 1 more round.
As seen by last night....that was the best I have ever seen Diaz's face look after a "fight". GSP was easy money by decision. He is one of the worst finishers in the division....Nick is one of the hardest to finish in the UFC. If you do the math, it was evident what would happen.
I know both were at 170 that is not the point both plugs wanted the fight. How many other times has Penn quit? Why did he quit? GSP gets no credit for imposing his will on each and every fight he gets put in front of him. Every fight he gets the other guy knows exactly what GSP will do and cant stop him, guess I am in the very small minority when I think that is as impressive as any knock out. Diaz had his entire training camp to be stop GSP from taking him down at will and he couldnt. KOs look better and will sell more PPVs but doesnt mean it is more impressive. Just my opinion.
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Quote Originally Posted by jonnyg4508:
The fights were at 170. Doesn't mean Serra and BJ weren't way undersized for that division. It is why BJ Penn has sucked at 170...he is way too small.
BJ Penn is a quitter, and he gave up with his poor conditioning. That isn't a legit stoppage, if he had any heart he could of made it 1 more round.
As seen by last night....that was the best I have ever seen Diaz's face look after a "fight". GSP was easy money by decision. He is one of the worst finishers in the division....Nick is one of the hardest to finish in the UFC. If you do the math, it was evident what would happen.
I know both were at 170 that is not the point both plugs wanted the fight. How many other times has Penn quit? Why did he quit? GSP gets no credit for imposing his will on each and every fight he gets put in front of him. Every fight he gets the other guy knows exactly what GSP will do and cant stop him, guess I am in the very small minority when I think that is as impressive as any knock out. Diaz had his entire training camp to be stop GSP from taking him down at will and he couldnt. KOs look better and will sell more PPVs but doesnt mean it is more impressive. Just my opinion.
Not sure why you are talking about what is impressive or not. This is a betting forum...and my post was about betting. Although nice juicy odds on it...it was hard to imagine GSP finishing Nick Diaz plain and simple.
Not sure why you are going on about what is impressive or not. I am talking about finishing. GSP inside the distance was a long shot. His previous fights and Diaz's career pretty much told us this even if you don't watch the fights.
You are from Canada. Of course you will be all up on GSPs nuts. If we want to talk impressive...it isn't GSP. Yes he is the better wrestler than most guys, has great cardio and athleticism. The sad part is he is SOOOO afraid to lose. So afraid to take any sort of risk. He has guys in dominant positions for 25 minutes at a time...yet rarely ever looks for subs or much GnP. He chips away with hammer fists and elbows to fool the ref into thinking he is working. It is sad when a champion and top P4P fighter isn't willing to take a single risk. He usually is on top for 25 minutes at a time and doesn't even try to finish.
He couldn't sub the amazing Dan Hardy after 25 min of controlling. While Chris Lytle beat Hardy up on the feet and sub'd him within second of it hitting the ground.
He broke Kos's eye socket in the first round and couldn't finish a blind fighter for 4 more rounds. Robbie Lawler came in unranked and just finished Kos in teh first round.
GSP is amazing at doing what he does. But he lacks any killer instinct. He is more afraid to lose than anyone else. Guys like Fedor, Hendo, Wandy, Shogun, Chuck, Randy, Frankie, BJ Penn, Nick Diaz aren't afraid of a L on their record and go out and fight. That is why they are revered and had plenty of fans even if they lost.
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Not sure why you are talking about what is impressive or not. This is a betting forum...and my post was about betting. Although nice juicy odds on it...it was hard to imagine GSP finishing Nick Diaz plain and simple.
Not sure why you are going on about what is impressive or not. I am talking about finishing. GSP inside the distance was a long shot. His previous fights and Diaz's career pretty much told us this even if you don't watch the fights.
You are from Canada. Of course you will be all up on GSPs nuts. If we want to talk impressive...it isn't GSP. Yes he is the better wrestler than most guys, has great cardio and athleticism. The sad part is he is SOOOO afraid to lose. So afraid to take any sort of risk. He has guys in dominant positions for 25 minutes at a time...yet rarely ever looks for subs or much GnP. He chips away with hammer fists and elbows to fool the ref into thinking he is working. It is sad when a champion and top P4P fighter isn't willing to take a single risk. He usually is on top for 25 minutes at a time and doesn't even try to finish.
He couldn't sub the amazing Dan Hardy after 25 min of controlling. While Chris Lytle beat Hardy up on the feet and sub'd him within second of it hitting the ground.
He broke Kos's eye socket in the first round and couldn't finish a blind fighter for 4 more rounds. Robbie Lawler came in unranked and just finished Kos in teh first round.
GSP is amazing at doing what he does. But he lacks any killer instinct. He is more afraid to lose than anyone else. Guys like Fedor, Hendo, Wandy, Shogun, Chuck, Randy, Frankie, BJ Penn, Nick Diaz aren't afraid of a L on their record and go out and fight. That is why they are revered and had plenty of fans even if they lost.
Not sure why you are talking about what is impressive or not. This is a betting forum...and my post was about betting. Although nice juicy odds on it...it was hard to imagine GSP finishing Nick Diaz plain and simple.
Not sure why you are going on about what is impressive or not. I am talking about finishing. GSP inside the distance was a long shot. His previous fights and Diaz's career pretty much told us this even if you don't watch the fights.
You are from Canada. Of course you will be all up on GSPs nuts. If we want to talk impressive...it isn't GSP. Yes he is the better wrestler than most guys, has great cardio and athleticism. The sad part is he is SOOOO afraid to lose. So afraid to take any sort of risk. He has guys in dominant positions for 25 minutes at a time...yet rarely ever looks for subs or much GnP. He chips away with hammer fists and elbows to fool the ref into thinking he is working. It is sad when a champion and top P4P fighter isn't willing to take a single risk. He usually is on top for 25 minutes at a time and doesn't even try to finish.
He couldn't sub the amazing Dan Hardy after 25 min of controlling. While Chris Lytle beat Hardy up on the feet and sub'd him within second of it hitting the ground.
He broke Kos's eye socket in the first round and couldn't finish a blind fighter for 4 more rounds. Robbie Lawler came in unranked and just finished Kos in teh first round.
GSP is amazing at doing what he does. But he lacks any killer instinct. He is more afraid to lose than anyone else. Guys like Fedor, Hendo, Wandy, Shogun, Chuck, Randy, Frankie, BJ Penn, Nick Diaz aren't afraid of a L on their record and go out and fight. That is why they are revered and had plenty of fans even if they lost.
Who ever he fights he completely takes their strength and negates it, so GSP should put himself in a position to lose? I thought the idea was to win, my mistake.
The hardest part about a 2 week war is the first 4 years
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Quote Originally Posted by jonnyg4508:
Not sure why you are talking about what is impressive or not. This is a betting forum...and my post was about betting. Although nice juicy odds on it...it was hard to imagine GSP finishing Nick Diaz plain and simple.
Not sure why you are going on about what is impressive or not. I am talking about finishing. GSP inside the distance was a long shot. His previous fights and Diaz's career pretty much told us this even if you don't watch the fights.
You are from Canada. Of course you will be all up on GSPs nuts. If we want to talk impressive...it isn't GSP. Yes he is the better wrestler than most guys, has great cardio and athleticism. The sad part is he is SOOOO afraid to lose. So afraid to take any sort of risk. He has guys in dominant positions for 25 minutes at a time...yet rarely ever looks for subs or much GnP. He chips away with hammer fists and elbows to fool the ref into thinking he is working. It is sad when a champion and top P4P fighter isn't willing to take a single risk. He usually is on top for 25 minutes at a time and doesn't even try to finish.
He couldn't sub the amazing Dan Hardy after 25 min of controlling. While Chris Lytle beat Hardy up on the feet and sub'd him within second of it hitting the ground.
He broke Kos's eye socket in the first round and couldn't finish a blind fighter for 4 more rounds. Robbie Lawler came in unranked and just finished Kos in teh first round.
GSP is amazing at doing what he does. But he lacks any killer instinct. He is more afraid to lose than anyone else. Guys like Fedor, Hendo, Wandy, Shogun, Chuck, Randy, Frankie, BJ Penn, Nick Diaz aren't afraid of a L on their record and go out and fight. That is why they are revered and had plenty of fans even if they lost.
Who ever he fights he completely takes their strength and negates it, so GSP should put himself in a position to lose? I thought the idea was to win, my mistake.
Who ever he fights he completely takes their strength and negates it, so GSP should put himself in a position to lose? I thought the idea was to win, my mistake.
See, now you are just being a ridiculous fool.
I never said GSP should put himself in danger. I never said he should brawl with Diaz.
I simply said to me he isn't that impressive. I am not a fan of his style of fighting. Anderson could easily out jab and kick most guys he faces to easy 50-45 dec, but he doesn't. Bones could take most anyone down and not look to do much damage...or win using his length...and win 50-45 on all card...but he doesn't.
GSP has a blackbelt in BJJ. And he spends 25 min at a time dominating fighters he is much better than. Seems like he could at least attempt a sub. Or at least try to throw some real GnP.
I never said GSP should go out there and wing it with no gameplan. But you want to be a foolish goof and pretend I did.
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Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:
Who ever he fights he completely takes their strength and negates it, so GSP should put himself in a position to lose? I thought the idea was to win, my mistake.
See, now you are just being a ridiculous fool.
I never said GSP should put himself in danger. I never said he should brawl with Diaz.
I simply said to me he isn't that impressive. I am not a fan of his style of fighting. Anderson could easily out jab and kick most guys he faces to easy 50-45 dec, but he doesn't. Bones could take most anyone down and not look to do much damage...or win using his length...and win 50-45 on all card...but he doesn't.
GSP has a blackbelt in BJJ. And he spends 25 min at a time dominating fighters he is much better than. Seems like he could at least attempt a sub. Or at least try to throw some real GnP.
I never said GSP should go out there and wing it with no gameplan. But you want to be a foolish goof and pretend I did.
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How is it not legit when guy wont come out to start final round?
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I get kick out of ppl that say this & that about him but he keeps on winning these fights end of story.
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