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    FOX 20 Holm vs Shevchenko

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    wiiooiiw
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2016 - 10:15 PM ET #1

    Holly -325 is just bigger then Valentina and I believe this will negate Val's perceived wrestling advantage.  HH is so great at keeping distance and after losing her title she's supremely motivated.  HH all the way for me.

    Ole Giblert (as I know him now #Reebok).  I didn't even know he was still in the UFC, it's been a year since his last fight.  Anyone know why?  In the mean time Edson -210 has fought three times, losing only to perhaps the next champ in Ferguson and beating Felder and former champ Pettis.  Edson is gonna keep this fight at distance and Dec, El Nino.

    Godofredo Pepey +175 is kinda on a run.  He's a little bit electric and Darren Elkins is kinda meh to me.  Super breakdown there, lol.

    Prazeres -260 will be going against a fellow grappler in Cottrell.  JC is coming in on two weeks notice, with first UFC fight so I'm with Prazeres for the win.

    Looks like the other "Cowboy" -265 is sticking around 170, which is fine against Moontasri, another 155/170 guy.  Let's get this win Alex.

    Also with "The Silencer" Sullivan -215 beating out Urbina.  Think he'll knock "El Toro" around. 

    I'll likely parlay all four together and then bet individuals at differing numbers given odds.  

    Also, like Glover +210, Verdum -175 and Miocic -130 in the near future.  Maybe a 7 team parlay @ 5D for all of them.  

    GL to all, been parlaying like a madman lately and keep missing by one on 4 teamers and 2 on big ones. Gotta start betting individuals more and building the bank slowly.  
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Holly -325 is just bigger then Valentina and I believe this will negate Val's perceived wrestling advantage.  HH is so great at keeping distance and after losing her title she's supremely motivated.  HH all the way for me.

    Ole Giblert (as I know him now #Reebok).  I didn't even know he was still in the UFC, it's been a year since his last fight.  Anyone know why?  In the mean time Edson -210 has fought three times, losing only to perhaps the next champ in Ferguson and beating Felder and former champ Pettis.  Edson is gonna keep this fight at distance and Dec, El Nino.

    Godofredo Pepey +175 is kinda on a run.  He's a little bit electric and Darren Elkins is kinda meh to me.  Super breakdown there, lol.

    Prazeres -260 will be going against a fellow grappler in Cottrell.  JC is coming in on two weeks notice, with first UFC fight so I'm with Prazeres for the win.

    Looks like the other "Cowboy" -265 is sticking around 170, which is fine against Moontasri, another 155/170 guy.  Let's get this win Alex.

    Also with "The Silencer" Sullivan -215 beating out Urbina.  Think he'll knock "El Toro" around. 

    I'll likely parlay all four together and then bet individuals at differing numbers given odds.  

    Also, like Glover +210, Verdum -175 and Miocic -130 in the near future.  Maybe a 7 team parlay @ 5D for all of them.  

    GL to all, been parlaying like a madman lately and keep missing by one on 4 teamers and 2 on big ones. Gotta start betting individuals more and building the bank slowly.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2016 - 1:42 AM ET #2

    Great analysis. My site doesn't have the odds up yet but I was wondering what you think about Melendez training with diaz for this fight. I think that may drastically help him
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    Great analysis. My site doesn't have the odds up yet but I was wondering what you think about Melendez training with diaz for this fight. I think that may drastically help him
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 2:07 PM ET #3

    Melendez was out for the last year on a PED or banned substance suspension.
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    Melendez was out for the last year on a PED or banned substance suspension.
     
    Hawky
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 7:11 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by wiiooiiw:

    Holly -325 is just bigger then Valentina and I believe this will negate Val's perceived wrestling advantage.  HH is so great at keeping distance and after losing her title she's supremely motivated.  HH all the way for me.

    Ole Giblert (as I know him now #Reebok).  I didn't even know he was still in the UFC, it's been a year since his last fight.  Anyone know why?  In the mean time Edson -210 has fought three times, losing only to perhaps the next champ in Ferguson and beating Felder and former champ Pettis.  Edson is gonna keep this fight at distance and Dec, El Nino.

    Godofredo Pepey +175 is kinda on a run.  He's a little bit electric and Darren Elkins is kinda meh to me.  Super breakdown there, lol.

    Prazeres -260 will be going against a fellow grappler in Cottrell.  JC is coming in on two weeks notice, with first UFC fight so I'm with Prazeres for the win.

    Looks like the other "Cowboy" -265 is sticking around 170, which is fine against Moontasri, another 155/170 guy.  Let's get this win Alex.

    Also with "The Silencer" Sullivan -215 beating out Urbina.  Think he'll knock "El Toro" around. 

    I'll likely parlay all four together and then bet individuals at differing numbers given odds.  

    Also, like Glover +210, Verdum -175 and Miocic -130 in the near future.  Maybe a 7 team parlay @ 5D for all of them.  

    GL to all, been parlaying like a madman lately and keep missing by one on 4 teamers and 2 on big ones. Gotta start betting individuals more and building the bank slowly.  

    be careful ben rothwell is a BEAST, as much as i hate him. fabricio looked like a punk last fight and big ben will capitalize on any of that nonsense. take the under though im on it huge.

    huge under rated fighter i love and dont understand the line is LITIFI. i think that line will move to a coin toss. get it NOW.

    last but not least, why is everyone bailing on the 202 card? i got a hunch mcgregor doesnt want another behind kicking and might back out....
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiiooiiw:

    Holly -325 is just bigger then Valentina and I believe this will negate Val's perceived wrestling advantage.  HH is so great at keeping distance and after losing her title she's supremely motivated.  HH all the way for me.

    Ole Giblert (as I know him now #Reebok).  I didn't even know he was still in the UFC, it's been a year since his last fight.  Anyone know why?  In the mean time Edson -210 has fought three times, losing only to perhaps the next champ in Ferguson and beating Felder and former champ Pettis.  Edson is gonna keep this fight at distance and Dec, El Nino.

    Godofredo Pepey +175 is kinda on a run.  He's a little bit electric and Darren Elkins is kinda meh to me.  Super breakdown there, lol.

    Prazeres -260 will be going against a fellow grappler in Cottrell.  JC is coming in on two weeks notice, with first UFC fight so I'm with Prazeres for the win.

    Looks like the other "Cowboy" -265 is sticking around 170, which is fine against Moontasri, another 155/170 guy.  Let's get this win Alex.

    Also with "The Silencer" Sullivan -215 beating out Urbina.  Think he'll knock "El Toro" around. 

    I'll likely parlay all four together and then bet individuals at differing numbers given odds.  

    Also, like Glover +210, Verdum -175 and Miocic -130 in the near future.  Maybe a 7 team parlay @ 5D for all of them.  

    GL to all, been parlaying like a madman lately and keep missing by one on 4 teamers and 2 on big ones. Gotta start betting individuals more and building the bank slowly.  

    be careful ben rothwell is a BEAST, as much as i hate him. fabricio looked like a punk last fight and big ben will capitalize on any of that nonsense. take the under though im on it huge.

    huge under rated fighter i love and dont understand the line is LITIFI. i think that line will move to a coin toss. get it NOW.

    last but not least, why is everyone bailing on the 202 card? i got a hunch mcgregor doesnt want another behind kicking and might back out....
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 10:20 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by mpoland149:

    Great analysis. My site doesn't have the odds up yet but I was wondering what you think about Melendez training with diaz for this fight. I think that may drastically help him
    Thanks Poland.  As far as Melendez' training camp goes I'm thinking, 'You can't teach an old dog new tricks'.  I believe he is who he's always been, which is a brawler.  I believe in Barboza as far as tactics go here
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpoland149:

    Great analysis. My site doesn't have the odds up yet but I was wondering what you think about Melendez training with diaz for this fight. I think that may drastically help him
    Thanks Poland.  As far as Melendez' training camp goes I'm thinking, 'You can't teach an old dog new tricks'.  I believe he is who he's always been, which is a brawler.  I believe in Barboza as far as tactics go here
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 10:21 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by JimGunn:

    Melendez was out for the last year on a PED or banned substance suspension.
    Thanks, Mr Gunn.  Gonna wait on your bets before pulling the trigger.  Great prop guy, here, follow JGunn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimGunn:

    Melendez was out for the last year on a PED or banned substance suspension.
    Thanks, Mr Gunn.  Gonna wait on your bets before pulling the trigger.  Great prop guy, here, follow JGunn.
     
    wiiooiiw
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2016 - 12:19 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawky:


    be careful ben rothwell is a BEAST, as much as i hate him. fabricio looked like a punk last fight and big ben will capitalize on any of that nonsense. take the under though im on it huge.

    huge under rated fighter i love and dont understand the line is LITIFI. i think that line will move to a coin toss. get it NOW.
    Lots of the Werdum fight I chalk up to just a bad decision.  Running into Miocic like he did.  Hoping he bounces back.  With you on Latifi at the line tho.  
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawky:


    be careful ben rothwell is a BEAST, as much as i hate him. fabricio looked like a punk last fight and big ben will capitalize on any of that nonsense. take the under though im on it huge.

    huge under rated fighter i love and dont understand the line is LITIFI. i think that line will move to a coin toss. get it NOW.
    Lots of the Werdum fight I chalk up to just a bad decision.  Running into Miocic like he did.  Hoping he bounces back.  With you on Latifi at the line tho.  
     
    Hawky
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2016 - 1:59 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by wiiooiiw:

    Lots of the Werdum fight I chalk up to just a bad decision.  Running into Miocic like he did.  Hoping he bounces back.  With you on Latifi at the line tho.  

    nice. ya him and that dumb smile
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiiooiiw:

    Lots of the Werdum fight I chalk up to just a bad decision.  Running into Miocic like he did.  Hoping he bounces back.  With you on Latifi at the line tho.  

    nice. ya him and that dumb smile
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2016 - 9:09 PM ET #9

    So is the lesson, don't trust female 135 and 115, for that matter?  Rd 1 Holly looked great and then nothing for 4 rounds. 

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    So is the lesson, don't trust female 135 and 115, for that matter?  Rd 1 Holly looked great and then nothing for 4 rounds. 

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