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    Brock Lesnar vs Jon Jones

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    SamLangford
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2017 - 8:40 AM ET #1

    Source - Dave Meltzer

    So apparently there is a possibility that Brock Lesnar will return to the UFC in December and the opponent being rumored is Jon Jones. 

    What do u think the odds on that fight will be?

    Mark Hunt was a -170 favorite vs Brock in his last fight.  So Jones has to be what -400 -500?   Brock's going to have like 60 pounds on him but you have to think after he blows his wad in the first round (or first 2 minutes) he's done.  Jones should knock him out in the 2nd. 







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    Source - Dave Meltzer

    So apparently there is a possibility that Brock Lesnar will return to the UFC in December and the opponent being rumored is Jon Jones. 

    What do u think the odds on that fight will be?

    Mark Hunt was a -170 favorite vs Brock in his last fight.  So Jones has to be what -400 -500?   Brock's going to have like 60 pounds on him but you have to think after he blows his wad in the first round (or first 2 minutes) he's done.  Jones should knock him out in the 2nd. 







     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2017 - 12:26 PM ET #2

    Source?  Link?  Where did Meltzer ever say that if Brock came back, he'd face Jones?
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    Source?  Link?  Where did Meltzer ever say that if Brock came back, he'd face Jones?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2017 - 1:04 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:

    Source?  Link?  Where did Meltzer ever say that if Brock came back, he'd face Jones?

    I heard it yesterday on the LAW (Live Audio Wrestling)

    You can listen at https://fightnetwork.com/  

    Meltzer comes on 45 minutes into the podcast. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:

    Source?  Link?  Where did Meltzer ever say that if Brock came back, he'd face Jones?

    I heard it yesterday on the LAW (Live Audio Wrestling)

    You can listen at https://fightnetwork.com/  

    Meltzer comes on 45 minutes into the podcast. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2017 - 1:09 PM ET #4

    Mentions Jones at about 48:50


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    Mentions Jones at about 48:50


     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2017 - 5:55 PM ET #5

    Two many question marks. Between the two there's been substance abuse, you name it. I'd like to see which Bones shows up against DC. As far as Brock...in his hayday and fully healthy I think he kills Bones. He's too big and powerful and underrated as an athlete. Still, here in 2017, maybe he should stay retired.
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    Two many question marks. Between the two there's been substance abuse, you name it. I'd like to see which Bones shows up against DC. As far as Brock...in his hayday and fully healthy I think he kills Bones. He's too big and powerful and underrated as an athlete. Still, here in 2017, maybe he should stay retired.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 24, 2017 - 11:43 PM ET #6

    Brock hasn't even entered USADA pool for testing yet, and when he does come back he has to fulfill his suspension, no way does he fight again by end of this year. Just dumb people talking how "cool" it would be.
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    Brock hasn't even entered USADA pool for testing yet, and when he does come back he has to fulfill his suspension, no way does he fight again by end of this year. Just dumb people talking how "cool" it would be.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2017 - 6:32 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Jertzman:

    Brock hasn't even entered USADA pool for testing yet, and when he does come back he has to fulfill his suspension, no way does he fight again by end of this year. Just dumb people talking how "cool" it would be.

    LOL did you even listen to what Meltzer had to say? Maybe you should listen to it before making yourself out to be a jackass.  oops too late for that....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jertzman:

    Brock hasn't even entered USADA pool for testing yet, and when he does come back he has to fulfill his suspension, no way does he fight again by end of this year. Just dumb people talking how "cool" it would be.

    LOL did you even listen to what Meltzer had to say? Maybe you should listen to it before making yourself out to be a jackass.  oops too late for that....
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2017 - 1:10 AM ET #8

    Jones called out Brock wow this might be actually happening lol
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    Jones called out Brock wow this might be actually happening lol
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2017 - 1:12 AM ET #9

    just heard that call out.  Jones would DESTROY Lesnar. 
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    just heard that call out.  Jones would DESTROY Lesnar. 
     
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    Wow. I turned Jones off. He called out Lesnar?

    LOL. Well, he'd kill him. And Lesnar would be stupid to take the fight unless he got a massive payday (but ultimately it would harm his credibility as it wouldn't go more than 2 rounds and that's being generous).

    I'd love to see it happen but Lesnar is not stupid. Automatic loss in the making.
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    Wow. I turned Jones off. He called out Lesnar?

    LOL. Well, he'd kill him. And Lesnar would be stupid to take the fight unless he got a massive payday (but ultimately it would harm his credibility as it wouldn't go more than 2 rounds and that's being generous).

    I'd love to see it happen but Lesnar is not stupid. Automatic loss in the making.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Wow. I turned Jones off. He called out Lesnar?

    LOL. Well, he'd kill him. And Lesnar would be stupid to take the fight unless he got a massive payday (but ultimately it would harm his credibility as it wouldn't go more than 2 rounds and that's being generous).

    I'd love to see it happen but Lesnar is not stupid. Automatic loss in the making.

    Yep. And I agree. A no win for Lesnar unless he's just needing $$
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Wow. I turned Jones off. He called out Lesnar?

    LOL. Well, he'd kill him. And Lesnar would be stupid to take the fight unless he got a massive payday (but ultimately it would harm his credibility as it wouldn't go more than 2 rounds and that's being generous).

    I'd love to see it happen but Lesnar is not stupid. Automatic loss in the making.

    Yep. And I agree. A no win for Lesnar unless he's just needing $$
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2017 - 9:35 AM ET #12

    The suspension was up July 9th, retirement or not. The problem is he has to be in USADA's testing pool for 4 months before he's eligible to fight. Dana White was able to smooth them over with a little money exchance under the table to get them to grant him an exemption for the Mark Hunt fight, doubt that happens here. 4 months would set up a bout for December, just like they said on the PPV last night. Don't think it happens though.
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    The suspension was up July 9th, retirement or not. The problem is he has to be in USADA's testing pool for 4 months before he's eligible to fight. Dana White was able to smooth them over with a little money exchance under the table to get them to grant him an exemption for the Mark Hunt fight, doubt that happens here. 4 months would set up a bout for December, just like they said on the PPV last night. Don't think it happens though.
     
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    Fight wouldn't even be competitive. And Jones knows if. Big financial reward, little risk. Cormier had tossed around everyone he ever fought at heavyweight and couldn't wrestle Jones at all. What is Lesnar gonna do? Lesnar can't hold Cormier's jock. Lesnar has no striking. And no gas tank. Jones murders him.
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    Fight wouldn't even be competitive. And Jones knows if. Big financial reward, little risk. Cormier had tossed around everyone he ever fought at heavyweight and couldn't wrestle Jones at all. What is Lesnar gonna do? Lesnar can't hold Cormier's jock. Lesnar has no striking. And no gas tank. Jones murders him.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    Fight wouldn't even be competitive. And Jones knows if. Big financial reward, little risk. Cormier had tossed around everyone he ever fought at heavyweight and couldn't wrestle Jones at all. What is Lesnar gonna do? Lesnar can't hold Cormier's jock. Lesnar has no striking. And no gas tank. Jones murders him.

    Lesnar's a lot bigger and stronger than Cormier and that's what makes the fight vaguely intriguing and somewhat marketable. Jones won't be able to rag doll Lesnar so will have to rely on his striking which is worlds beyond Lesnar's. Lesnar has a weak chin but Jones isn't a one punch KO type of fighter. The real reason this fight doesn't make sense isn't the chasm in talent levels. It's the fact that Brock is 40 years old, and between wrestling, pro-wrestling, and MMA, he's been beating up his body for over 20 of those 40 years. He has a recent history with ailments and a history with performance enhancers and steroids that i'm sure goes back well further than his UFC days. His body has to be a shell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rzagza:

    Fight wouldn't even be competitive. And Jones knows if. Big financial reward, little risk. Cormier had tossed around everyone he ever fought at heavyweight and couldn't wrestle Jones at all. What is Lesnar gonna do? Lesnar can't hold Cormier's jock. Lesnar has no striking. And no gas tank. Jones murders him.

    Lesnar's a lot bigger and stronger than Cormier and that's what makes the fight vaguely intriguing and somewhat marketable. Jones won't be able to rag doll Lesnar so will have to rely on his striking which is worlds beyond Lesnar's. Lesnar has a weak chin but Jones isn't a one punch KO type of fighter. The real reason this fight doesn't make sense isn't the chasm in talent levels. It's the fact that Brock is 40 years old, and between wrestling, pro-wrestling, and MMA, he's been beating up his body for over 20 of those 40 years. He has a recent history with ailments and a history with performance enhancers and steroids that i'm sure goes back well further than his UFC days. His body has to be a shell.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2017 - 5:13 PM ET #15

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    #UFC Odds
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    Jon Jones -320
    Brock Lesnar +280
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    #UFC Odds
    SUPER FIGHT
    Jon Jones -320
    Brock Lesnar +280
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    @RJBell 

    #UFC Odds
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    Jon Jones -320
    Brock Lesnar +280

    Interesting.  A tad lower than i expected.  But i guess if the goal is for two way action then its about where it should be.  I'd imagine there will be a lot of public donkey money on the dog regardless.
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    #UFC Odds
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    Jon Jones -320
    Brock Lesnar +280

    Interesting.  A tad lower than i expected.  But i guess if the goal is for two way action then its about where it should be.  I'd imagine there will be a lot of public donkey money on the dog regardless.
     
     
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    Slash that -320 with Jon Jones inside the distance prop. Lesnar isn't going 5 rounds. While I'm talking MMA I might as well go off topic and say I'm so disappointed that I can't get dog money on Sam Alvey vs Rashad Evans.
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    Slash that -320 with Jon Jones inside the distance prop. Lesnar isn't going 5 rounds. While I'm talking MMA I might as well go off topic and say I'm so disappointed that I can't get dog money on Sam Alvey vs Rashad Evans.
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