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    Any arbritage UFC betters out there?

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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2016 - 5:34 PM ET #1

    Looks like there were 3 big upcoming fights to do this type of bet and recently too.

    Bader vs Johnson. Hendricks vs thompson. Ben vs Josh Barnett. Few others.

    Gracie(predicted winner) vs Shamrock

    +150    vs  -  109

    bet 1000 gracie to win 1500
    bet 1090 shamrock to win 1000

    Gracie wins = 1500 - 1090 (shamrock bet)  = 410  
    Shamrock wins = 1000 - 1000 (gracie bet)  = 0 break even


    Same could of been done with Thompson vs hendricks

    +285  vs -  220

    Bet 1000 Thompson to win 2850 
    Bet 2200 Hendricks to win 1000 

    Thompson win = 650
    Hendricks win = break even



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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Looks like there were 3 big upcoming fights to do this type of bet and recently too.

    Bader vs Johnson. Hendricks vs thompson. Ben vs Josh Barnett. Few others.

    Gracie(predicted winner) vs Shamrock

    +150    vs  -  109

    bet 1000 gracie to win 1500
    bet 1090 shamrock to win 1000

    Gracie wins = 1500 - 1090 (shamrock bet)  = 410  
    Shamrock wins = 1000 - 1000 (gracie bet)  = 0 break even


    Same could of been done with Thompson vs hendricks

    +285  vs -  220

    Bet 1000 Thompson to win 2850 
    Bet 2200 Hendricks to win 1000 

    Thompson win = 650
    Hendricks win = break even



     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2016 - 5:47 PM ET #2

    Anyone have any tips? Im far away from this stage. It seems like it would be difficult to figure out what the starting line would be. 

    I was expecting gracie -130 to +110 ken. I guess they switched it to allow arbitage bets? +150 gracie to -190 ken.

    The only thing that stops me from doing these type of bets is because I am unsure if the odds will come back, leaving me with a big bet on one side. 

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    Anyone have any tips? Im far away from this stage. It seems like it would be difficult to figure out what the starting line would be. 

    I was expecting gracie -130 to +110 ken. I guess they switched it to allow arbitage bets? +150 gracie to -190 ken.

    The only thing that stops me from doing these type of bets is because I am unsure if the odds will come back, leaving me with a big bet on one side. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2016 - 7:08 PM ET #3

    I usually end up with small opportunities for arbitrage on just about every fight card.  It's often so little (like 30$ or zero), that I just let the original bet ride. The key is to be on the right side early.  Sometimes, you'll be on the wrong side, but hopefully more often you're on the right side  There is no telling when the line will settle, but they usually move pretty good about 4 hours before the fight card starts and by the time the card starts, all of the major moving is usually done.  Oh, and lastly, you need to have accounts at several books to take advantage of  the line differences.  I'm by no means some sort of arbitrage pro - just my two cents.
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    I usually end up with small opportunities for arbitrage on just about every fight card.  It's often so little (like 30$ or zero), that I just let the original bet ride. The key is to be on the right side early.  Sometimes, you'll be on the wrong side, but hopefully more often you're on the right side  There is no telling when the line will settle, but they usually move pretty good about 4 hours before the fight card starts and by the time the card starts, all of the major moving is usually done.  Oh, and lastly, you need to have accounts at several books to take advantage of  the line differences.  I'm by no means some sort of arbitrage pro - just my two cents.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2016 - 9:26 PM ET #4

    I may try it out down the line. Still havent bet enough matches to pick up the trends. Not enough matches to start betting 100+ yet.  

    With a very large bankroll someone could do very well just on MMA. Anyone that does arbitage what do you recommend to start?
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    I may try it out down the line. Still havent bet enough matches to pick up the trends. Not enough matches to start betting 100+ yet.  

    With a very large bankroll someone could do very well just on MMA. Anyone that does arbitage what do you recommend to start?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2016 - 11:17 PM ET #5

    I guess arbitrage by definition is freerolling where there is no risk.  To have true arbitrage you would have to be betting on two sites where there was an immediate opportunity as you described above and there would be no risk.  These occur and you can see them on sites like bestfightodds but they usually go away pretty quick as arbitrageurs take advantage of them. The other opportunities that occur over time are actually gambing.
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    I guess arbitrage by definition is freerolling where there is no risk.  To have true arbitrage you would have to be betting on two sites where there was an immediate opportunity as you described above and there would be no risk.  These occur and you can see them on sites like bestfightodds but they usually go away pretty quick as arbitrageurs take advantage of them. The other opportunities that occur over time are actually gambing.
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 17, 2016 - 12:03 AM ET #6

    Im not even sure when the line comes out lol. I guess these guys have been doing it for a while to know how public will bet at certain odds. If your wrong you are left with a big bet..

    I will just try to figure out time for best odds. 
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    Im not even sure when the line comes out lol. I guess these guys have been doing it for a while to know how public will bet at certain odds. If your wrong you are left with a big bet..

    I will just try to figure out time for best odds. 
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