Attn all mods/covers mgmnt.....how is this possible?

For a "poster" to be offline/not logged in (as in for many days now), and still make picks? And on top of that, make picks after the time deadline? There is some real shady stuff going on that needs answered.

Hello,

You'd have to provide a bit more detail here as to who you are referring to and what contest, etc.

I will provide more detail as long as there is a full investigation by more than just you. No offense, but I want all the big dogs with badges and integrity to listen and check out what I will disclose. In other words, I need more chiefs to chime in here and tell me they will get down to the bottom of this without prejudice and or company orders. Long story short, there is a huge scandal going on with a certain contestant that will be put on blast as soon as I can be guaranteed this won't get ignored and a thorough investigation gets done. This has to do with all contests and picks, so consider it all the same.

Hello PlusOdds,

Once you let us know what you would like for us to check, we will look into it for you. If it is required other teams would get involved depending on the severity.

You/somebody needs to answer the original 2 questions plus 1 more:

1. How is it possible to make picks while offline/not logged in?

2. How is it possible to make picks past the time deadline?

3. Can you/somebody check to see anyone's history when they were logged in and not logged in?

Answer these questions then we can begin the process of observed scandal.

Hello PlusOdds,

Once we know the user you are referring to we can certainly look into any of the above issues that may be happening. As it is something that shouldn't be possible.

Contestant "mollydog" who has been known to get the best lines possible 98% of the time was logged off from July 14th until August 1st. Somehow was still able to make picks in WNBA, CFL, MLB and survivor every day. It still shows his/her last online activity was August 1st but has still made picks after this date. I also want to mention, I clearly observed some WNBA picks were made after game deadlines had passed. Most recently was July 30th in the NY at Minnesota, and Atlanta at Dallas games. Deadline was 8:00 pm EST and I noticed no picks from "mollydog" were entered until around 8:05 pm which would be impossible unless there was some inside cheating going on. Long story short, check everything on that contestant. Someone with full access to the site is abusing their power and is corrupt.

Hello PlusOdds,

Thank you for sharing your concerns about this user, we will check into their account, pick times and how they may be signing in to avoid their account from updating their last login times, this is most likely something on our side not updating when they are logged in, but we will check it out.

Hello Flynt, 

How soon will this get looked in to and some sort of report back?

PlusOdds,

I typically don’t post because I just don’t have the time, but appreciate your concern, respectfully. As I mentioned a couple years ago, I am a dad out of Ohio who enjoys sports and am as computer illiterate as they get. That said, I have used a system here after years of research to help me get the best lines I can get. I don’t always win, I’m over 50k to the negative in MLB this season (LOL), but try to stay consistent based off the system I’ve pulled together. Hopefully, I’ve helped a handful of you who tail me win some money. If that has occurred, I’ve done good.

The Covers team does a tremendous job on this site. The second games are scheduled to start, the games are auto removed. There is no possible way to make a selection after the scheduled game time. I’ve been a long time member and enjoy entering picks throughout the day based on a couple points including line moves, public money, handicappers (or for some, scammers) free picks and even tailing some of the legends on this site. All of which make my selections pretty easy. That said, there are several sites that show opening lines and movement days in advance. That helps me  make an educated guess on where the lines are heading. From there, either you grab them early or you wait it out if you’re on the other side (versus the public money). This does not guarantee success at any level. You still need to be on the winning side. If you believe the “wise guys”, who move the lines, win every night in Vegas, they are flat out lying to you.

Going back to line movement, there are several sites showing opening versus real-time lines. Vegas insider, even ESPN now offers it. You can track exactly where the lines are heading and get in front of them if you wish. The fact that I factor in Vegas Handicappers “free picks” is another element of the equation. Today, as an example, majority of the Vegas cappers Free picks are on Miami in MLB and the over in Phoenix in the W. I will wait on both their lines to move and go strongly against the public. On those games, I wait for the lines to move in my favor, then go against public money. I’ve already nabbed their under in Phoenix at it’s peak and I will be backing the Braves to upset the Marlins tonight but I’ll wait as all the Miami money keeps pouring in.

Again, I try to identify Vegas line errors and Vegas cappers who target those with losing picks daily. Why would any professional capper give out winners for Free? Think about it. It’s had a pretty good track record of success, but there are sports I can’t ever seem to crack. I just hope I’ve helped a handful of you who have backed me win some $$$$$.

Mollydog

You and this site are full of shit. I know for sure you had picks made after the deadline last week at least 2 days in WNBA. On top of that, you were not logged in from July 14th until August 1st. And from August 1st until today. But somehow you were able to make picks every day lol. This is an inside job for sure. There have been many complaints about you in the past about stuff. And I agree with them. You are also someone else with access to help your self with lines, odds and past deadlines. Where's there's smoke there is fire. Unfortunately, we'll never get the real answer. 

@mollydog

 Great insights!! It goes to show how important it is to get the best numbers. i always kinda thought touts would give out there best plays  for free and downplay them like its a low level play of theirs to attract customers. that you could get even better results by buying their "real plays" as an angle. keep up the great work!!

Viper,

Much appreciated. Atop of the opening/real-time line sites I shared in this thread, if you google free sports handicapper picks and monitor their plays, you get a pretty good grasp around “what they want you to play”. Once you know who the handiscammers are, they are typically a springboard for me to fade. Hope you tailed the 2 “plays against the public money I shared yesterday”. Best of luck to you.

Plus,

Despite the childish name calling and accusations, which I don’t feel warranted a response, I honestly and sincerely hope you won big $$$$ last night with both public fades I shared with you. I tried. Best of luck to you as well. 

Mollydog

@PlusOdds

 The last 2 years I documented this cheater getting different lines than everyone else in NCAA basketball. I followed the lines and his picks every half-hour for many days to prove it. It was easy to see.  If Covers had just let me prove it to them day by day, I could have. Instead, they put me in the "penalty box" (where you are headed lol) and I gave up. They don't care, this will go away and they'll keep paying prize money to cheaters. Hard not to think it's an inside job, otherwise why would they let it go on so long?

You did good work. I did my own investigation and know for sure mollydog is a cheater and is also someone with inside connections. Flynt has not responded in 4 days (even though he's been online) which means a huge cover up and no real investigation. This site is a huge joke. And yes, mollydog gets the best line possible no matter what time of day. 

You have been exposed many times. We all think you are cheating. Care to answer why you weren't logged in from July14 to Aug 1st and were still able to make picks? And then from Aug 1st to Aug 7th to make picks? There is no doubt you are a 2nd account related with this site.

Hello all,

After looking into their pick times over the past month we are not seeing any made after the deadline, all picks are removed from the board or unable to be submitted once the game start time is past. It is possible their picks page isn't updating for you to view immediately, which is generally a caching issue.

We are still looking into the last logged in date issue, but as stated above this is most likely an issue on our end, where we are not capturing their last logins correctly. If you see a pick they have/had that the line was unavailable anywhere we can certainly take a look into those, check line histories, etc.

Plus,

There is no “second account”, there is no “inside job” and as Covers just confirmed, you cannot make a selection after tipoff. Regarding your login item, again, I am as computer illiterate as they come, so for what it’s worth: Because I always have Covers open on my phone and tablet, my possible thought here is if you don’t completely logout, for some reason, it’s not updating the login dates. That’s an educated guess from a very non-technical person. I make my picks early and late when the lines move every day. I enjoy and spend a boatload of time on this site when I get breaks with my day job. 

As I shared earlier, I watch multiple sites with real time offshore line movements, leverage public moneys, not to mention players on this site who always do well. Bundinibrown jumped in, I been tailing him/her for NHL total picks the last few years!!
Ultimately, I’ve done ALOT of homework to try and beat the books. I mean ALOT, probably more than my wife would want to acknowledge. 

That said, I can tell you how nearly 60-70 handicappers with daily free picks have fared this year. I track them too. I typically know exactly who I’m backing and fading, then I look where the offshore lines are heading and I play them early or late depending on if I am backing or against the public.
Funny part, I’m still down over $30k YTD and down $50k in hardball. So, you’re faring better than I. Ultimately, you still have to be on the winning side. Even all the research does not guarantee success.

Those who tail me, I hope I assisted in winning you all $$$$. Those who don’t, best of luck to you. I hope you push me to get better and smarter. 

Flynt, 

Dont know who you are, but thanks for following through. There are a couple people convinced we’re best friends and working together. I had to reset everything to relog back in today.
As I mentioned earlier, you all do a great job on this site. There’s not another site like it.
Also, reading Bundini’s post, please don’t put anyone in the penalty box unless there was more to the story/exchange. We all play here to challenge ourselves, gain insight and leverage the best people/plays to close the gap versus the books. 

Sincerely

Mollydog

@mollydog

 I'm just impressed and I'm new to this site and I respect your hustle. I actually just try to estimate how many runs each team will have per game which makes me right now top 60 in over / unders . I never even thought about the strategy mentioned . I wright every game on a yellow notepad and see if I can find trends that develop. It's exciting and takes up a lot of time but I'm 73 games above .500 

Here we go again, Mollydog not logged in since yesterday and still making picks for today. What a sham and no end in sight. There was no real investigation. There wasn't multiple mods/staff involved that even replied. Gee, I wonder why?

Okay, as I’ve posted previously in the thread, with the research I do, I have covers, I have multiple handicapper free picks sites and I have real time offshore odds movement sites up on my home laptop back in Ohio. 

I travel extensively for my job. Last week in NY/NJ, this week in Boston. I am responding and making selections remotely from my cell. I don’t typically logout on my home laptop before traveling. I believe that is the only possible explanation.

PlusOdds, please reread this explanation a few times so you can move on and start winning yourself. Im trying to be considerate and cordial, but the continuous assumptions, accusations and complaining are very disappointing.

Mollydog 

That retort is total bs. There is no way possible to be able to make picks and considered "offline" or not logged in. Notice Flynt didn't check into this. Or any other mods/staff. We all know the deal. You are the only one identified who has been able to get lines better than everyone else no matter what time of day. (Stale lines) And to expect anybody to believe that? Also notice no other staff/mods made any comments. This is very telling.

Seems that PlusOdds has discovered a sinister "Mollygate" conspiracy with his accusations. Can we please give the guy a hoody? I would suggest getting a life but a hoody is a good start. Onward. Worry about your lack of ability, not someone else's success. Regarding Streak Survivor, with the number of games NOT allowed to select in Streak Survivor, it's amazing anyone can get to 20 wins in a row. 

Very interesting! If you are not logged in how can you make selections ? I’m sure there is a explanation!

I appreciate the tips in regard to the line movements, Mollydog. Thank you very much for your tips and time.