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    usa default

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    jlt9889
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2011 - 3:20 PM ET #1

    does anybody think it will really happen? i thought there would be a canceled season this year in the nfl.  i still believe usa will default. does anybody see anything that will change my mind.  there is about 5 days left


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    does anybody think it will really happen? i thought there would be a canceled season this year in the nfl.  i still believe usa will default. does anybody see anything that will change my mind.  there is about 5 days left


     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2011 - 3:22 PM ET #2

    Short term ceiling raise would be the worst case if you ask me.
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    Short term ceiling raise would be the worst case if you ask me.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2011 - 4:56 PM ET #3

    well i wish we dafault. i am still shorting the market and it will help me out big time.
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    well i wish we dafault. i am still shorting the market and it will help me out big time.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2011 - 6:51 PM ET #4

    Ive been long FAZ a while, not budging from it. Market profits are a full function of international profits due to cheap dollar. If rates ever rise profits will get smashed as the dollar will rise, our exports get expensive, margin and interest rates go up which is bearish for investment and leveraging.

    Domestic demand stinks, that will matter at some point in my lifetime.
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    Ive been long FAZ a while, not budging from it. Market profits are a full function of international profits due to cheap dollar. If rates ever rise profits will get smashed as the dollar will rise, our exports get expensive, margin and interest rates go up which is bearish for investment and leveraging.

    Domestic demand stinks, that will matter at some point in my lifetime.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2011 - 10:17 PM ET #5

    They will raise the debt ceiling, it would shock the world if they didn't.  What's happening right now is Hollywood.  No one wants the US to crumble on their watch, they will continue to kick the can down the road.

    Nothing will be passed until a few hours before default...


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    They will raise the debt ceiling, it would shock the world if they didn't.  What's happening right now is Hollywood.  No one wants the US to crumble on their watch, they will continue to kick the can down the road.

    Nothing will be passed until a few hours before default...


     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2011 - 10:30 PM ET #6

    I agree with 'Tundra.  This is all theatrics and the debt ceiling is raised in final hours. 

     The market recover its losses mid-next week.
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    I agree with 'Tundra.  This is all theatrics and the debt ceiling is raised in final hours. 

     The market recover its losses mid-next week.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2011 - 10:58 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Ive been long FAZ a while, not budging from it. Market profits are a full function of international profits due to cheap dollar. If rates ever rise profits will get smashed as the dollar will rise, our exports get expensive, margin and interest rates go up which is bearish for investment and leveraging.

    Domestic demand stinks, that will matter at some point in my lifetime.

     

     

    hey cramer am i diversified

    FAZ, EEV, TZA

    i been long for about one and half years now. just waiting for this shit to tumble along with europe and asia

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Ive been long FAZ a while, not budging from it. Market profits are a full function of international profits due to cheap dollar. If rates ever rise profits will get smashed as the dollar will rise, our exports get expensive, margin and interest rates go up which is bearish for investment and leveraging.

    Domestic demand stinks, that will matter at some point in my lifetime.

     

     

    hey cramer am i diversified

    FAZ, EEV, TZA

    i been long for about one and half years now. just waiting for this shit to tumble along with europe and asia

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2011 - 10:45 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Ive been long FAZ a while, not budging from it. Market profits are a full function of international profits due to cheap dollar. If rates ever rise profits will get smashed as the dollar will rise, our exports get expensive, margin and interest rates go up which is bearish for investment and leveraging.

    Domestic demand stinks, that will matter at some point in my lifetime.


    the market will stay irrational longer then you can stay solvent

    wall, even though we are polar opposites on many of our beliefs, i respect your knowledge on how the financial world works. So why on earth are you long a 3x levered ETF??

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Ive been long FAZ a while, not budging from it. Market profits are a full function of international profits due to cheap dollar. If rates ever rise profits will get smashed as the dollar will rise, our exports get expensive, margin and interest rates go up which is bearish for investment and leveraging.

    Domestic demand stinks, that will matter at some point in my lifetime.


    the market will stay irrational longer then you can stay solvent

    wall, even though we are polar opposites on many of our beliefs, i respect your knowledge on how the financial world works. So why on earth are you long a 3x levered ETF??

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2011 - 11:14 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by be easy:



    the market will stay irrational longer then you can stay solvent

    wall, even though we are polar opposites on many of our beliefs, i respect your knowledge on how the financial world works. So why on earth are you long a 3x levered ETF??


    I love to gamble, and I have a long horizon to do so. The way I see it, there are more reasons to anticipate a market drop than to have them continue running on artificial fumes.

    That said, it is only a PART of my investments, not a majority..I am still like 60% plus cash, a few stocks and no mutual funds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by be easy:



    the market will stay irrational longer then you can stay solvent

    wall, even though we are polar opposites on many of our beliefs, i respect your knowledge on how the financial world works. So why on earth are you long a 3x levered ETF??


    I love to gamble, and I have a long horizon to do so. The way I see it, there are more reasons to anticipate a market drop than to have them continue running on artificial fumes.

    That said, it is only a PART of my investments, not a majority..I am still like 60% plus cash, a few stocks and no mutual funds.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2011 - 12:03 PM ET #10

    Bottom line is no one truly know what will happen in markets if the slim chance of the US defaulting does happen.  You best bet is probaly to have some of your money in gold.
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    Bottom line is no one truly know what will happen in markets if the slim chance of the US defaulting does happen.  You best bet is probaly to have some of your money in gold.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2011 - 10:13 AM ET #11

    they are basically just putting a bandaide on a amputated leg.  just wait and see where this stock market will be very soon.  this is just a joke.  pathetic leaders just trying to save the deadline but we all know this is not going to work at all
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    they are basically just putting a bandaide on a amputated leg.  just wait and see where this stock market will be very soon.  this is just a joke.  pathetic leaders just trying to save the deadline but we all know this is not going to work at all
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2011 - 3:45 PM ET #12

    been waiting for this pig to crash. just a matter of time boyz until europe defaults on everything, asia, next and us is on a brink. i been long on faz, tza, and eev. hope u guys do not have alot invested. i would start shorting this market
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    been waiting for this pig to crash. just a matter of time boyz until europe defaults on everything, asia, next and us is on a brink. i been long on faz, tza, and eev. hope u guys do not have alot invested. i would start shorting this market
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